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Larry King and ISIS | WHAT! Muslim Free Zone in AMERICA?

Islamophobia is not always a man waving a Confederate flag outside a mosque. Sometimes it wears a smile, offers a handshake, and still manages to reduce a billion and a half human beings to a collective suspect. That is the sobering reality explored in this episode of The Deen Show, where host Eddie sits down with the Secretary General of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) to examine a phenomenon that strikes at the heart of how Islam and Muslims are perceived in the West — and what our faith demands of us in response. From cable TV hosts comparing Muslims to the Mafia, to a celebrated broadcaster casually telling a Saudi guest to “go fight ISIS,” the episode peels back the layers of anti-Muslim bias and, crucially, points toward a spiritually grounded path forward rooted in sabr (patience), knowledge, and the radical hospitality that has always been at the core of Islamic guidance.

Two Kinds of Islamophobia — and Why the Subtle One Is More Dangerous

The overt kind of Islamophobia is at least honest in its ugliness. When a cable host describes 1.6 billion Muslims as being “like the Mafia” or calls Islam “a destructive force,” the hostility is plain to see and easy to name as bigotry. The ISNA Secretary General points out, however, that this very visibility makes it the less dangerous form — because we recognise it immediately for what it is. The more insidious threat is the subtle Islamophobia that hides behind politeness and even apparent goodwill: the soft bigotry of low expectations that assumes, without evidence, that Muslim and Arab people are backward, anti-Semitic, and collectively responsible for every act of extremism committed in the name of their faith anywhere on earth. The Larry King incident — captured in a New York Times profile — is a textbook illustration. When a Saudi fan approached King for a photograph, King immediately questioned whether a Saudi could even be photographed with a Jew, then concluded the exchange by instructing his guest to “go fight ISIS.” The implicit assumptions are staggering: that all Muslims must harbour hostility toward Jews, and that every Muslim on the planet bears personal accountability for a terrorist organisation whose primary victims are, in reality, Muslims themselves. No one demands that American Christians publicly denounce white-nationalist mass shooters in Norway or Europe — applying that standard exclusively to Muslims reveals a prejudice dressed up as concern.

  • Overt Islamophobia: Explicit slurs, Nazi comparisons, and sweeping declarations that Muslims are violent — made openly by public figures and media personalities.
  • Subtle Islamophobia: The presumption that Muslims or Arabs automatically share the values of extremists — a bias the person committing it may not even be conscious of.
  • The double standard exposed: Telling a Saudi Muslim to “go fight ISIS” is equivalent to telling an American Christian to “go fight Anders Breivik” — no one accepts the second framing, which proves the first is prejudice, not logic.
  • Islamic theology on Jews and Christians: Muslims regard both as Ahl al-Kitab (People of the Book) — a position of theological kinship and deep respect, not enmity.
  • The statistical reality: Muslims are the most frequent victims of extremist violence, a fact systematically absent from media narratives that assign collective guilt to the entire faith.

“What do American Muslims have to do with ISIS? That would be like me telling an American Christian: ‘Now go fight Anders Breivik in Europe.’ Why are we holding an entire community responsible for the actions of people they have absolutely nothing to do with? It is a double standard — and on the surface it passes as concern, but underneath it is the same old prejudice.” — ISNA Secretary General

From “Muslim-Free Zones” to Open Doors: Islamic Character as Our Greatest Argument

Just as Jim Crow America once maintained spaces from which Black Americans were barred, today’s headlines speak of a gun shop owner declaring his store a “Muslim-free zone,” standing defiantly before a Confederate battle flag. These are, SubhanAllah, the times we live in. And yet the ISNA Secretary General reframes even this provocation as a hopeful sign: every minority in American history — Jews, Catholics, Chinese Americans, Irish immigrants, African Americans — faced a period of organised hatred and exclusion before achieving mainstream acceptance. The pushback itself signals that Muslims are arriving. More practically, the episode offers a real-world model for how faith and wisdom overcome fear. In Phoenix, Arizona, hundreds of armed bikers descended on a masjid to protest Islam. The congregation did not react with anger. They invited the protest organisers inside, broke bread with them, and explained calmly that American Muslims came to this country to live in peace, and that their faith honours Christianity and Judaism as expressions of the same divine guidance sent through all the prophets, peace be upon them all. The lead organiser left the masjid shaking hands and embracing the people he had come to intimidate — his entire worldview shifted not by an argument he lost, but by a welcome he did not expect. This is sunnah in action. This is Islam.

  • Respond with calm, never emotion: No situation has ever deteriorated because someone responded with patience, kindness, and dignity.
  • Be tactful in your timing: Choose the right moment to engage — not at peak business hours — invite the store owner to dinner, let hospitality do what confrontation cannot.
  • Arm yourself with knowledge: Effective dawah requires understanding modern statistics on extremism, anticipating media-fed misconceptions, and knowing how to counter them clearly without reinforcing stereotypes.
  • Interfaith work is strategic dawah: ISNA’s partnerships with Christian and Jewish communities have produced passionate defenders of Muslims in churches, synagogues, and the halls of Congress.
  • Reject the victim mentality entirely: The early Muslims were always outnumbered and always optimistic — their example commands us to see every challenge as an opportunity to represent Islam with excellence and confidence.

“We are not people to be feared. We are your fellow Americans, your brothers and sisters in humanity, your brothers and sisters in monotheism. I have a mortgage to pay, I am getting my kids through college, I worry about my job — I am going through the exact same things that you are. There is no need to hate me or to fear me.” — ISNA Secretary General

The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was the most optimistic of men — and Islam, at its core, is a faith of purpose, gratitude, and relentless hope. When we encounter Islamophobia in its overt or subtle forms, our spirituality does not permit us to shrink into despair or lash out in anger. Instead, it equips us — through the Quran’s instruction to repel harm with goodness, through the Sunnah’s model of dignified engagement, through the example of every prophet who faced fierce opposition and responded with mercy — to be the living refutation of every lie told about our deen. The man standing outside a mosque with a gun, or the shop owner with his exclusionary sign, does not yet know us. He has been taught to fear us by a well-funded, well-organised machine that profits from his ignorance. Our responsibility — as Muslims, as people of faith, as members of a community whose very name means peace — is to ensure that when he does come to know us, what he finds dismantles every fear that machine has spent years constructing. That is not a softening of our convictions; it is the fullest, most powerful expression of them.

Eddie Redzovic - Host of The Deen Show

Eddie Redzovic

Host of The Deen Show

Eddie Redzovic is the host of The Deen Show, one of the most watched independent Islamic programs in the world with over 1.4 million YouTube subscribers. He has been producing educational content about Islam for over 18 years, interviewing scholars, converts, and experts on faith, purpose, and contemporary issues.

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