beaver will also come to Islam when I
really sit in my room and I'm alone and
I can just like God are you there like
Birmingham man you know about that yeah
yeah yeah you're looking at one of the
oldest fragments of the Quran ever
discovered it's written on parchment
most likely made from sheep or goat skin
and it's been dated by experts as being
more than 30 00 years
old repeat that again anybody what if
anybody is sincerely looking for the
truth and nothing else but the truth the
only answer the only way that the only
thing you could come upon is
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welcome to the dean show and I'm have an
exciting episode for you as always with
my next guest Drew Davis AR mean Davis
check this out who's a professional
Hollywood actor
since six years old he's been in the
Hollywood industry with the likes of
Andy
Garcia Ian Laura if I mess up these name
Forest Whitaker course Kings town with
Jerry Henner uh he's been in the Disney
movies I've been really out of touch
with a lot of these actors and a lot of
these programs but some of you might
recognize some of these the uh Oprah
black HBO and the list goes on and he
was searching for purpose purpose of
life and check it out he's here on the
dean
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show in our
face we have
God and his final Messengers muhamad
peace be upon him this is our religion
Islam
Islam I love you you're doing when I was
ready to talk about it I would only I
was explaining how much respect I have
for the faith of Islam welcome to the
show the
show how you doing young brother
alhamdulillah
alhamdulillah I'm doing great so uh
quite a a resume here since six years
old yeah uh that is that when like Miley
Cyrus Justin beaver they all started at
their young age right yeah I I think I
might have even started younger yeah
even you started younger before Justin
and all these guys not I mean older than
me but in terms of the an age of
starting yeah yeah but so um what led
you down this path now because people
you're 19 years old and usually you see
what happens when you look at many of
these Hollywood Disney stars they start
to grow up they get the spotlight and
the fame and next thing you know it's
like hold on they're living the American
dream but it turns out to be the
American Nightmare they go down drugs
and alcohol and all the other doors open
up of not so uh many of the good things
but the bad things yeah Subhan Allah
it's uh it's really it's sad to see um
you know may Allah subhana tala protect
us all a mean mean I mean um I think for
me you know Subhan Allah I I actually I
think my free time is something that I
took very valuable and and was very
careful about how I used it and my
parents alhamdulillah instilled that in
me from a young age um and so you know
Subhan Allah when when you when you grow
up in the industry
um there's actually a portion of your
money a large portion of your money that
has to get put in into a actor trust a
youth uh fund basically for to to
protect PE the children from their
parents you know taking their money and
stuff so it goes in a trust that you
can't touch until you're 18 M um and so
alhamdulillah I came I I turned 18 I had
and this is what happens with a lot of
people that are young child actors they
turn 18 they get a big chunk of money
they have a lot of free time they might
even be working on something uh or have
a continuous role and a recurring role
in a show and they just have free time
nothing to work for and really are just
enjoying enjoying life and so the first
thing that comes down to for a lot of
people is how do I maximize my pleasure
and enjoyment and so for a lot of people
that the maximum way to enjoy life for
them would be drugs to experience you
know a a high in that in a in a moment
um and Subhan Allah for me I think that
you know who who knows I might have even
gone down that path um like later on but
alhamdulillah you know I had a friend of
mine who I just finished filming in
Calgary this was I I had just turned 18
or I finished turn I this was the year I
turned 18 I had a friend of mine um
after I finished filming in Calgary I
came back home to Toronto and he asked
me just what do you believe what what's
your opinion on God and religion and and
I told them in that moment you know I
maybe there's a God maybe there isn't we
don't know there's no proofs or
evidences so I'm not going to I wouldn't
follow a religion or say I believe in
God because there's no way to find
there's no way to prove it um and uh
Subhan Allah I got home that night and
Uh I that question just stuck in my head
I started to realize that I believe
there were no proofs I believe there's
no evidences for the existence of God or
religion but I never did any Research
into you know any of the proofs or
evidences or listened to anyone who said
that there were proofs I just assumed
everybody accepted the fact that even if
they were religious it was based off of
Blind Faith um and so I decided with my
free time that I had now I was going to
dedicate it all to researching uh
religion and finding the objective truth
and that's what I did and five months
later alhamdulillah came out of my room
with uh being a Muslim alhamdulillah
let's reverse a little bit got you into
acting yeah yeah uh so my parents used
to be well my dad used to act your
father was an actor my father was an
actor uh my mom is a musical director
and they now run a an after school
program uh a musical theater after
school program and my parents just put
me in at a really young age they had
connections with uh my agent at the time
who's still my agent now um and she kind
of just took me onto a roster started
submitting me for things and right away
I was booking movie and gig after gig
and the whole time I never felt
pressured by my parents to stay inside
stay in it I just absolutely loved it I
I loved being on set I loved acting I
loved the film and TV World um I loved
stepping into a completely different
character shoes for a moment in time and
just trying to imagine and put myself in
their position in life um and so I just
stayed with it and it worked out did you
did you meet a lot of these uh famous uh
childhood actors I mentioned did you
meet anybody like uh Justin or Mar or
what I don't know the new up and
cominging ones have you met yeah I
didn't work a lot with other child
actors a lot of the time I was playing
um I was playing when I was younger I
was playing the child in like in of some
of the more a-lister actors um uh that
were older so like you had mentioned you
know Andy Garcia Eva Longoria Forest
Whitaker Jeremy rener yeah I've seen a
lot of some of his film Andy Garcia he's
a very he's a aist so you have like
ratings for these actors ABC He's listed
as a actor uh I believe so Jeremy Runner
is as well he play he plays Hawkeye in
the Marvel movies if you've ever seen
any of them I know this Whitaker Forest
wh he the africanamerican yes yes yeah
he's in a lot of stuff as well and Sir
Patrick so how you spent some time with
obviously with them yeah yeah and how
was how was it hanging out with them oh
it was it was they're they're all
amazing people honestly um you know a
lot of the time being on set it's they
take it very seriously you know so it's
it's not a lot of the time you don't
really get the opportunity to it's not
like you're off filming and then you
you're hanging out and chatting they're
they're very dialed in on being there
for their craft and their work but at
the same time they're very kind and uh
and Forest Whitaker and P Sir Patrick
Stewart as well another one that I truly
you know I cherished a lot of time with
yeah we hear a lot of times the the
scandals that go on in Hollywood where
you ever exposed and seeing some of
these things I never was but I do know I
I know people that have spoken about it
yeah um you know like whether it's um
like people that worked more in the
financial side that had to deal with
certain people that might have obviously
I don't I don't want I'm not trying to
get
deleted um but you know certain people
that have spoken about you know weird
things that they've run into or homes
that they've been in where they see a
lot of you know whether it's satanic or
things like that but me personally I've
never I've never seen it or been exposed
to it probably because I was so young
they kind of Shield yeah I recently had
a guess he was also a part of that
industry and he was talking about this
uh a lot of lot of the people in this
industry okay they go away from
worshiping God the Creator or believing
in God they cover up what we say that
fitra that innate nature but then they
go and do de you know other things you
know um black magic uh witchcraft
strange strange things you know demonic
things yeah it's really it's it's you've
heard about that you've seen
I've heard about it from other people
but me personally I have never seen it
scary so you wanted to now you didn't
cover up that innate disposition that
we're all born with and you went down
first you started you wanted to confirm
that it wasn't a delusion because you
were talking about I was watching a
little bit of your um your program with
Bona and you were saying that people who
believe in God who are around you they
would they would kind of mock that right
it was like something that uh people
make made fun of and it was you think
you're delusional or something yeah yeah
it became honestly a it became honestly
like an a superiority complex that I
just felt so comfortable with because it
wasn't challenged by anyone yeah you
know and so everyone around me is an
atheist everyone believes the same thing
there's no proofs there's no evidences
if you believe in God that's good for
you but just know you believe in fairy
tales you know this this is the this is
the stance that everyone around me had
and even the people that would claim to
be religious would still hold that
stance it was it to me now I look back I
look back and even I speak with some of
my friends who might have been Jewish or
Christian and we'll talk and they agreed
with me more from my agnostic atheist uh
stance than they do now you I would tell
them before you know there's no proofs
or evidences we can't know for sure so
I'm never going to follow a religion and
they would respect that more than me
saying no I believe if anybody is
looking for the truth sincerely they
will become a Muslim that's the only
answer and now they're like what's wrong
with you you know repeat that again
anybody what if anybody is sincerely
looking for the truth and nothing else
but the truth the only answer the only
way that the only thing you could come
upon is Islam yeah at 100% And that's
the complete submission and surrender to
one and only one God absolutely right
absolutely so we'll get into uh how you
really you took a deep dive but I want
to get you reaction to
this I mentioned his name sure and he
somebody also who he it seems like he
believes in God so maybe if he if he uh
comes across this video maybe he'll look
into uh the way of life that now you
you're talking about that's based on
proof and evidence yeah and uh maybe
this uh Justin beaver will also come to
Islam when I really sit in my room and
I'm alone and I can just like God are
you there like I feel this connection
with something that's a higher being it
just and picture it as being a perfect
thing yeah it just puts an ease to my
soul that's like I can't describe
special it's special yeah Justin Bieber
yeah and I don't mean to be weird and
like no this is you're talking to a guy
who was raised within the Catholic
church I went you know 10 years of
Catholic school man dude yo I went to
church every morning man for many many
years what did you did you have any of
those experiences so first he's talking
starting off talking about like not
being able to trust people who's wanting
something right but then he's talking
about spending that qual that time alone
and a higher presence absolutely
absolutely you know even even I think
the time that I felt it the most was
when I actually went on the search
because I think I at the start coming
from being an atheist I didn't believe
in God right and so at first I'm looking
for proofs and evidences to believe in
God and so you know I I once I accepted
that as a fact there because that was
the start right there I realized there's
a necessity for the existence of a
creator of the universe one once you
realize that then looking into religion
or looking any further you know even
during that time you know that if there
is a God that you're now doing something
for the sake of him even if you don't
even if you're not following a religion
yet I'm going on this search with the
intention to get closer to God with the
intention to find the objective truth
and if that objective truth is God then
I'm asking God to open my eyes up to
that truth right and so even through
this whole search of not even being
religious I already started to feel like
it's a it's an internal connection that
you have just knowing that you're
working towards getting closer to
somebody MH you know even though you
don't exactly know what it is that
you're working towards getting close to
you know it's you know that whatever the
God is that you're trying you're you're
on a path trying to be sincere and get
closer to him so and and you can see
like uh when I mentioned these childhood
actors who grow up and they feel that
void because everyone now naturally
wants to know why am I here why I've
been created it's it obviously went
through your your mind and you started
to search and and you and you and you
went further you didn't cover it up with
all the entertainment and everything um
and just numb yourself and that's what
we see happening people numb themselves
alcohol drugs and they they don't really
investigate look like you did and it
leads to a a dark Road of depression
anxiety you know we all experience these
these things here and there but gives
you the antidote and and helps you to
get through all these challenges of life
absolutely so now tell me this um when
you see because that's what the end goal
and then people might not worship the
Creator but they end up worship their
desires money Fame status so in this
industry did you did you see like did
you go to any parties did you get
invited to some of the after to shoot
usually they'll have like the After
parties red carpet and I just observing
just observing you know the uh demeanor
of people how they were what what was
your impression on yeah look I I I've
always I think one thing I've always
hated is one of my biggest pet peeves
was the like the red carbet especially
the way think like when we use the word
celebrity it's almost to me it's almost
like what have you done that why why
should we be celebrating this you know
when you use the word Idol why are you
looking up to this person you don't know
anything about their internal state
right they could be the most unhappy
person you're idolizing them you want to
become this person and they could be
absolutely depressed and you know we see
it many times people that we might
consider Idols or that public uh might
consider Idols that end up committing
suicide or you know you know damaging
themselves in ways that are are are so
terrible um and Subhan Allah to just to
go back on your point about kind of
people using whatever it is to distract
themselves suban Allah one thing that
literally is what kind of increased me
in my uh ambition towards searching for
the truth was uh a quote that I heard um
I can't remember who it was that said it
but it was um imagine that you went to
sleep tonight and you woke up on a train
and you had no idea how you got there
where you were going those would be your
first questions and you would not care
about anything else if if a server came
by and tried to hand you champagne and
people were like don't worry about where
we're going it's you know we're we're
we're having fun on this train you would
you would be like no I want to know
where we're going and where and how I
got here and what how what is going on
right and so and who put me here and
Subhan Allah that that is exactly uh
this life you know we've been put here
we don't know how we got here we don't
know where we're going we don't know
what our purpose is um we don't know why
we're here and yet you know all these
these Illusions and distractions whether
it's drugs and alcohol whether it's you
know um distracting with media and you
know finances and materialistic gains
and whatever else whatever our desires
our worldly desires are those things are
are simply distractions yeah from and to
keep us away from the real question and
to keep us away from the truth and so
when I realized okay yeah this makes a
lot of sense it's the most important
question to answer there's nothing else
that could possibly be a bigger
distraction than not
knowing okay so for the people who are
out there they see okay Hollywood actor
young young young man and now he's
thinking about more serious things
purpose of life you know why we've been
created why we're talking about God and
all that and it makes sense so they're
they're with you they're with us okay
but as soon as you go deeper and and
people start talking about uh Jesus
Trinity or other religions you know and
and and in each of these religions and I
we call them man-made religions why
because in one way or another you're
these are things that man has developed
over time and it forms into creation
worship so uh this was something unique
about your story and then you'll lose
the people and then people the fitra
rejects this and then people start to
associate all these weird superstitions
incantations with the religion they're
like this stuff is like you know way out
there it's like and then they start
looking at all religions as just weird
and whatnot so you wanted to poke holes
in the different religions and you
started to examine
all the different religions and then you
got to a point you were like either I'm
going to uh you tried so hard not to be
Muslim and Muslim is simply one who
submits his or her will to God it's not
an Arab in the desert or whatnot and I'm
going to die knowing is the truth or I'm
going to die Muslim so what was it about
all the other religions that turned you
off and what was the the the main thing
about Islam that turned you on sure sure
so for me um when I started my search I
had basically a list of three criteria
yes for any book that claimed to be the
word of God any religion that claimed to
be um uh uh you know true yeah my three
words three criteria yeah three criteria
number one is uh the book needs to be
preserved we need to have evidence of
its preservation preservation beautiful
you're thinking logically okay so
preservation so I need to know that what
I'm reading today is what was revealed
or what was the is in its original form
yes right number two was there can't be
a single contradiction because if God's
the author then you know God couldn't
have a single contradiction there there
couldn't be a contradiction in this book
beautiful right and number three it
there has to be some sort of signs or
evidences of divine knowledge some
something that couldn't have been known
at that time or something that human
beings couldn't understand but we've
later through advances in technology
been able to find out to be true
preservation yeah no contradictions and
evidence that is from the Creator it's
not just Blind Faith yeah and so this is
the thing that was my was kind of the
was spearheading my search and reminds
me of my journey also really same thing
almost identical yes I wanted evidence
as you believe in God and then what they
take you down a dark Road of some
man-made religion I don't want to follow
man-made I want to follow the way of
life from the Creator absolutely and so
I think for me it actually was very easy
for most of these religions it's very
it's very quickly that you can start to
find
whether it's in you know the Bible or
any other books or religions you can
find the flaws in okay we don't have any
proof this has been preserved we can see
changes in the Bible we can see changes
that have happened over time with these
different religions we we can find
contradictions clearcut contradictions
no there's no way to reconcile
whatsoever um and we don't and we see
sometimes even in these books things
that it speaks about that it gets wrong
and Subhan Allah so for me it was
actually very quickly that I was able to
get get through a lot of a lot of
religions until really Islam mhm and
when I got to Islam um the first thing I
went straight to was the preservation
because for me if it's not been
preserved then that that throws out a
lot of things anyways MH um so for me
preservation was number one and uh I got
when I started to look at okay number
one we have kids that are halfth of
Quran from the age of 10 years old so
clearly we can be memorized for people
have never heard this word for the able
to memorize right they're able memorize
as preservers of the Quran preserve the
entire Quran letter by letter and word
by word from memory yeah I I don't know
there's not a single other you know
religion that had this uh in in in it
right number two we have carbon dated
manuscripts back to the lifetime of the
Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wasallam um and and the full manuscripts
from only a short time afterwards right
um and so for me I had hard evidence
from an Imperial uh EMP empiricism
standpoint of like okay uh Western our
Western idea of what stands for evidence
I have carbon dated we have carbon dated
manuscripts you know you know about
those in Birmingham I right Birmingham
manuscript you know about that yeah yeah
yeah you're looking at one of the oldest
fragments of the Quran ever discovered
it's written on parchment most likely
made from sheep or goat skin and it's
been dated by experts as being more than
13 100 years old and that makes it among
the earliest known fragments of the
Quran anywhere in the world and it's
here in the University of Birmingham
this remarkable document had been
resting on the shelves of the University
library for decades without anybody
realizing just how old it was until a
researcher decided to take a closer look
the person who actually wrote it may
well have known the prophet Muhammad he
would have seen him probably he would
maybe have heard him preach um he may
have known him personally and that
really is quite a thought to conjure
with Birmingham has one of the country's
biggest Muslim communities and they have
welcomed having such a treasure in their
City when I saw these pages I was very
much moved and there were tears of joy
and emotions in my eyes you've done your
homework alhamdulillah um and so so that
was one thing plus the memorization
proved to me that okay it's it's
possible that this has been preserved
right and and it being possible is
enough for me to you know not say okay I
have I have proof it hasn't been right
so this is the thing is any of these
religions I needed proof it hasn't been
not proof that it has 100% been just
just proof that it hasn't been and that
was enough for me to you know if it if
it's possible that it's been preserved
then that was enough for me to put it as
a point for and not against right or at
least put it in the middle um next came
to contradictions this is what I spent
the most time upon was really just
trying to find a contradiction and for
me my Google search was literally proof
the Quran is wrong that that was it
contradictions in the Quran proof Islam
is false these you're really trying not
to be Muslim no yeah of course I mean I
don't want to be upon anything that
isn't the truth right and so if somebody
out there has found a reason why Islam
is false I want to listen to them I want
to be convinced by them um because we
know uh I mean it's no question what it
means there's a lot of sacrifices that
you have to make there's a lot of
restrictions that you you have to follow
so you've listened to a lot of these
islamophobes career people who are in it
just for you know all day and night they
don't call people to their religion
Christianity or whatever religion they
just spend all their effort on trying to
disprove Islam you listen to lot of
those it's sad man it it really is it's
almost
like you said it right you said it they
basically their entire life mission is
to disprove ISL and not even to prove
their own religion even we see
ex-muslims that will like make their
entire entire uh YouTube channel about
not being an ex-muslim and it's like
their whole identity is the fact that
they left Islam like something there
already tells you that there's there's
not that much sincerity and more a
emotional hatred or dis dislike with uh
with Islam or Muslims whatever it may be
and even most of these ex-muslims they
never actually practiced Islam they
never searched into Islam and even if
you listen to their arguments of why
they left Islam or why they dislike
Islam a lot of the times it's purely
emotional it's purely this is happening
here or this like and it's it has
nothing to do with a logical conclusion
yeah okay let's go back to uh before you
you were talking about contradictions
but let's give them a real life example
now you are uh are you Arab no I'm not
are you fluent in Arabic I'm not fluent
in Arabic no uh neither am I I'm not
Arab um but you're going to go ahead and
when we talk about preservation every
Muslim uh one who is submitted to the
will of God is a Muslim is as I said
before in Islam is submission to the
will of God is striving to preserve to
memorize some of the Quran and their
prayers and and then the different suras
that we have right you've already
memorized some of the Quran
alhamdulillah can you go ahead and share
some of the memorization with the
opening chapter the oh sure can you
recite that for us yeah sure
yes
[Music]
alhamdulillah
[Music]
mashallah alhamdulillah alhamdulillah so
this is how the Quran we have we often
have a a saying that you can take all
the books in the world throw them in the
ocean lock them up in the safe get rid
of all of them and if they're gone you
wouldn't be able to bring them back but
that's how the Quran has been preserved
it's the only text that you can actually
bring back with people like this who are
memorizing it and reciting it not Arabs
the Quran is eternal literally it's
Eternal there is nothing other than
Allah subhana tal that could stop the
Quran from being preserved and if people
would just take the meaning of this
verse it's calling upon the Creator for
guidance yeah acknowledging you know
obviously the the meaning and everything
and it's like it's almost like somewhat
like the The Lord's Prayer yeah you know
the Lord's pray Our Father who are bu H
be th th Kingdom th thy will be done
this is thy will be done is Islam right
submission to the will of
God it's it's it's amazing so we gave
them an example the preservation the
contradictions you talking about finding
no contradictions now you have people
try to you know like these SL they'll
bring something up and then they don't
go to an expert and then they'll think
oh I got you here but you got through
all that also all those games that they
play huh yeah so it's tough it's tough
to do like I'll be honest having the
amount of free time that I did is really
what helped me I don't know how I would
have I I I I don't know how I would have
navigated it um it's really tough to
navigate because you have so many people
especially in um non-debate contexts
right where you're just it's just one
guy in his room or wherever it may be
speaking whatever he wants to speak to a
camera and if enough people want to
listen and hear and if it makes enough
people happy they'll get views right and
people will believe it even though no
one's fact checked him no one's no one
of knowledge has actually come to you
know debate or counter his arguments
he's simply just a random guy speaking
for all anybody knows right um so for me
I literally had to do what what you're
saying is I had to you know listen to a
guy whatever he says whe however wrong
it may be I didn't know it was wrong so
I would listen to him then I would go
and find the counter argument yeah right
for for every single video or every
single article that I was reading I
would find the aru counter argument and
then I would find the counter to the
counter argument and then I would go
back and forth and keep doing this until
I came to my own decision on what seemed
the most rational and and logical
opinion um and then once that that
singular topic was uh was clarified for
me I would move on to the next one and I
would just do this and this is what
literally took me I've spent six seven
hours a day for four or five months uh
doing this locked in my room just
research were you within yourself uh
asking seeking saying guide me in
whatever words you were saying were you
asking however you called upon the
Creator for guidance yeah you know
personally I wasn't even I don't think
it was an out loud thing but internally
your intern internally absolutely
internally I I I knew that look I
whatever whatever this journey leads me
to whatever I I end up upon I know that
I've been searching for a connection
with God I know I've been searching for
the truth now when you say God in your
heart were you saying okay Jesus
Muhammad were you calling upon I was
calling upon the creator of the world
the Creator that's it creator of the
universe that's it um how whatever and
however that um was I didn't know but
and and I always tell people that's the
simple thing to do it's simple homework
it's call upon the one who created you
yeah as soon as you put an intermediate
between you and God you messed it up
yeah yeah so this is something that
again goes with the innate nature call
upon the one who created the one that
Jesus prayed to let's talk about Jesus
please now talk to me here you talk
about also this journey you and this is
in no way disrespecting our our brothers
sisters out there of any other religions
but just point out some of the obvious
to have people to think and um your love
for Jesus we often say that you know
Jesus peace be upon him when you accept
Islam you truly know his message you
truly love him his Blessed Mother what's
your relationship with with Jesus is now
and why didn't you end up like Justin
beaver taking Jesus as God right um yes
pan so I I because I didn't come from a
Christian background I kind
of I I was I was waiting to I was still
needing to be convinced by Christianity
whereas you know many people who maybe
come from Christianity or are born into
a Christian household that love for
Jesus or that you know that experience
of having Jesus's name spoken all around
the house and stuff and Everywhere You
Go is already there for them um so for
me my first really okay who is Jesus you
know obviously I hear him spoken about
in some songs and whatever it may be and
I know what Christianity is but um who
is this guy Jesus you know and why do
Christians believe that he's God um and
so when I started to do my research
especially into the Bible you know going
through those three things preservation
uh no contradictions and uh uh Divine uh
knowledge or some sort of uh evidences
of being from the Creator um I found
with uh Christianity you know I was I
was having a hard time with those things
but one thing I did find interesting was
the fact that you have different
accounts of the same guy isaam or Jesus
Christ's life right you have the same
you have people saying that he spread a
certain message that he you know
performed Miracles that he was you know
preaching and and and trying to spread a
message and so for me that still seemed
interesting okay you have different
accounts of the same man they're all
saying the same thing or similar things
while I found contradictions in them
that didn't negate the fact that these
are this there's still some evidences
are truth to this and so Subhan Allah
the more that I started to really at the
start I veered away from Christianity I
said Okay I I can't really follow this
because it hasn't been preserved and
there's contradictions I can't I can't
believe that this is exactly from God
all right stop right there so uh you you
figured out U that Matthew didn't write
Matthew Luke didn't write Luke people of
course call The Gospel books Matthew
Mark Luke and John well they call them
Matthew Mark Luke and John because we
don't know who wrote these books and
there's no point calling them Sam Fred
Jerry and Harry I mean they're they're
written by people we don't know who they
were written by they are Anonymous you
might not think so because they have the
title The Gospel according to Matthew
whoever put that title on it was an
editor later the followers of Jesus were
Aramaic speaking peasants From Galilee
lower class men who were not educated in
fact Peter and John in Acts 4:13 are
literally said to be illiterate they
couldn't read and write of course not
they were fishermen they didn't go to
school the vast majority of people in
the ancient world never learned to read
let alone alone right and their native
language was Aramaic these books are
written in Greek by Highly Educated
rhetorically trained writers who are
skilled in Greek composition yeah the
four gospels ananymous books you figured
all this out these are Christian
Scholars telling us yes yes Christian
Scholars and this is the thing it's like
Christians will will unn knowledgeable
Christians will will will not know this
but knowledgeable Christians will
stipulate you really done your homework
yeah so you figure that out okay and
then you give an example of the U uh you
talk about the Trinity not making sense
yeah can you touch upon that yeah sure
for me I mean there just the idea of
three all powerful uh beings but one are
all powerful to me number one didn't
make sense number two when I started to
really look into you know I I came back
to starting to look at Christianity a
second time um closer to the end of my
search before getting to Islam and
Subhan Allah that's when I really
started to see these uh Christian and
Muslim debates
and when I started to see these debates
uh a lot of the time they would speak
about okay this this guy Jesus couldn't
have been God you know number one he
says uh none knows uh the hour except
the father right um and so right away if
you have three if you're speaking about
a trinity where there're three all
powerful co-equal um but one all
powerful then they should all have the
same knowledge they should be all all
knowledgeable all wise yet you know
isaam didn't know the hour he was he
goes to look at a he he sees a tree uh
from a from a distance and says let me
go over to see if there's some fruits
and he only has to walk up to the tree
to see that there's no fruits on the
tree these these are not attributes of
an alln knowledgeable and this is no
disrespect to Jesus or chanity this
pointing out the obvious that he's not
all knowing that he didn't claim to be
God he sought guidance from his creator
put his head on the ground right he's
depicted prayed like Muslims prayed like
Muslims he's depicted even even though
like of course we don't depict any of
our prophets he's depicted by the
Christians wearing white th with a beard
to me it was saying asalam alaykum be
with you Subhan Allah it to me it was
just like all the so all the signs are
pointing you to his to Islam to Islam
being a Muslim so that was even my first
like oh what is what is Islam cuz
honestly Islam wasn't even on my radar
in terms of a religion that I was going
to take seriously and search and search
like and go down until this until see
that literally opened up a world
religions book and I went through them
like one by one multiple and I saw in
each of the different religions that are
out there there's so many and this is
what people often say like oh you know
they're all religions how can they all
be wrong how can everybody so they just
throw everything out in the garbage but
one by one all the religions in one
sense or another didn't have the
preservation didn't have the proof and
in one way or another they're calling to
Creation worship worshiping ancestors
fires arism worshiping uh so many gods
and uh animals and all sorts of weird
things yeah yeah and and I think the
beautiful thing as well is I had a
friend of mine actually who's uh who
kind of asked me once I came once I came
when I accepted Islam and I told him um
and he's been super supportive but he he
was very curious like why did you pick
Islam like you know because I I've seen
things in the Bible that make sense and
I've seen things in this that makes
sense and I've seen things in all these
all these religions he was specifically
talking about the abrahamic ones mhm and
I saidh Allah you know you know honestly
I would have had a very hard time
reconciling this until you learned that
it's all from the same Creator MH that
you know the things that that stopped uh
Judaism from continuing from continuing
from continua and uh Christianity from
continuing is simply the lack of
preservation you know these books were
corrupted by man over time and so there
was a necessity for another Prophet to
come Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wasallam to bring the final Testament
right and um and Subhan Allah when you
realize that when you realize that this
is all just a continuation that we we
all worship the same God um then you
know Subhan Allah that makes it that
makes everything make infinitely more
sense yeah it makes sense that the first
man he was told Adam uh peace be upon
him he was told to submit his will to
God that's what Islam means he was doing
Islam he was a Muslim who submitted his
will and then it just kept going the
chronological order it just kept going
God Almighty would send guidance and
some people went and deviated away from
that gu started worshiping the creation
and started to form their own religions
that's how manmade religions came and
then Allah the Creator God Almighty
would send Revelation and it was the
same message worship one and only one
God and you see that in the Bible here
always wrote The Lord th God is one not
three in one or Trinity and then it just
kept going until the last and final
messenger so it's it makes just total
sense that that it wasn't a different
religion with every messenger that would
it cont
messages worship one God be morally
upright don't worship the creation
simple as that very simple very
straightforward and I think the fitra
what we talked about earlier it it it
gravitates towards that it is that it
absolutely and even even any non-muslim
that I've met that's maybe agnostic or
or just you know believes in God you
realize that their belief in God is a
Muslim belief in God an all powerful
being one being that we can't I really
understand or conceptualize in terms of
how that being looks or is um you know
they those people believe in that and so
my next question always to them is so
let's say cuz you believe there's a God
you believe there's something some being
that created the universe um number one
why do you think that is and number two
don't you think that we should try and
develop some sort of relationship and if
we should try and develop some sort of
relationship what type of relationship
is appropriate for the creation to have
to its creator MH and some the most of
the time they'll say I don't know but
I'll always push forward and and and
propose the idea that the only the only
logical relationship that we could have
with our all- knowing Creator is one of
submission is one of complete and utter
uh submission and subservient because
because that Creator would know
everything about us knows what's best
for us knows what's right and wrong uh
you know and and knows everything so for
us to even say to go against that
Creator's will is in itself illogical
because that Creator we're we're
basically stipulating okay I know more
than you which would be false I mean
this is this uh God willing inshallah
this can be a benefit for so many people
especially the the youth out there the
young ones like yourself um uh when
someone long young like yourself a lot
of many of times you have um people your
age Unfortunately they are spending all
their time just uh the young woman that
way age trying to impress the boys and
uh then the boys using the women and
then the parties and locked up in your
basement smoking the dope and the hunja
and whatever it's called nowadays and um
drinking drugs alcohol and they're far
away from even thinking about and
contemplating the purpose of life why am
I here but to look at yourself you know
to look at you and see how you've taken
that deep dive you know you've
contemplated purpose also probably
thinking about death what happens when I
die young people die right and you could
be gone at any time and to really take
that uh step forward and to please your
creator instead of just pleasing uh the
people and the fans and getting the
likes and this that and the other it's
very impressive alhamdulillah alah I
think uh you know Subhan Allah I I I
really truly believe
that you
know you there there is only one thing
that we should spend our time doing and
it is you know searching for a a greater
purpose because if there isn't one then
everything we're doing is meaningless
anyways if there isn't one it's all
meaningless what's the point yeah so
what's the point why not do whatever why
not destroy yourself where where's the
morality where's what's right or wrong
how do you know what's good and bad
there isn't anything MH um and when you
realize that then the only next thing to
do is really start that search and I
truly believe if you're sincere upon
that search if you're really looking for
the truth um you're looking for whatever
that truth
is you know you then you have no there's
should be no shame to call out to God
even though you're not following a
religion yet even though you might not
have the connection that God wants you
to have with him yet you know even
though you're not following his religion
um ask for guidance and if you're
sincere upon it no there's nothing that
will come to you but guidance beautiful
advice tell me this we almost out of
time um how did you deal with many times
you know people go away from um looking
at the simple things that Islam the the
beautiful teachings of Islam you know
the worship of one and only one God the
Creator not the creation being morally
upright staying away from all of the
things that harm Society harm yourself
it's an instruction manual from how to
go to the bathroom how to be a good
husband how to be a good wife how to be
a good businessman how to be a good
citizen everything is there all good
things right charity kindness The Best
of You are those who are best in
character then they jump to the Pino Cod
it's like 1% 2% it's like I compare it
to Martians coming down and they want to
know about the United States and you're
telling them about the electric chair
you're telling him about the death
penalty right yeah uh and then you don't
tell them about all the other beautiful
things that this land has to offer uh
the Constitution has to offer and
whatnot uh how did you also deal with
that you know people oh Islam is Jihad
and terrorism and all this other
nonsense what how did you deal with that
yeah I think uh I think a lot of the
time those those questions they come
from they're they're actually not
tackling the main question and a lot of
the time I ask this to any friend that
asks me those types of questions I say
let's let's put that to the let's put
that on pause for a second and let me
ask you if you had an envelope okay and
you knew inside that envelope was a
message and instructions from the
creator of the universe M and then you
opened the envelope and you didn't
understand what it was telling you to do
you thought something was wrong but you
knew
100% this is from an all- knowing
creator that has your best interest in
mind would you follow it or would you
say forget about this and honestly I've
had some people that say I don't know
I've had some people that say I would
follow it and I've had some people that
say well those are the only two options
those are the two answers I've ever
gotten because the third one actually
doesn't make any sense right and so and
so I think similarly in this in this
situation the question really shouldn't
be about the the teachings and rulings
of Islam obviously we can ask those and
look for the wisdoms and understandings
behind it but the main question should
be is this from the Creator and if it is
then the next answer is submit right and
so if we have the evidences what
wouldn't make sense is if there weren't
any evidences and proofs right that
wouldn't be fair and I think uh there
would be no there would be no justice if
there was no proof and evidences if
there was no way to know that Islam is
the truth but we're just told okay
submit but no there are evidences and
proofs Allah has provided us with with
the uh with knowledge and intellect and
he's provided us with the ability to use
that intellect to come to a
conclusion and that conclusion can only
be that there is one God and that
Muhammad is the final messenger
sallallahu alaihi wasallam and so um
that was that's the first thing I would
say and number two I would say as well
you know where do you get your morality
from where do you get what right wrong
solid yeah yeah well how how can you say
that anything is right and wrong without
uh an an external Source because
for for the atheist you have just as
much a leg to stand on as the serial
killer as whatever the the person
committing the most heinous crimes you
have just as much of a a moral leg to
stand on in terms of saying what's right
and wrong as that person you know what
makes you different than anybody else
saying No this is fine and this is what
we see happening in the west with all
types of morality going down drains
right because because nobody can there's
no objective what's right and wrong in
their eyes therefore then everything is
right when how did it feel taking uh
your shahada and when you say the Shada
when you said that there's nothing
worthy of worship except the creator of
the heavens are Allah Muhammad is the
messenger peace blessing be upon Him
many people don't know that that
automatically includes doesn't exclude
Jesus Moses Abra all the preceding
Messengers this is one of the Articles
of Faith you believe in all of them too
just that Muhammad peace and blessing
he's last absolutely how did that moment
finally took your shahada how was that
moment I think think it's like it's a
it's a big step you know because Allah
then then it's time for your actions to
follow your words right and those words
mean nothing without following them with
actions and so for me that that that was
the main thing is like if I when I say
these words right now you know I I now
my life is going to change I know it's
only for the better but that doesn't
mean I'm not worried or scared or
nervous about any fallouts that might
happen obviously I know it's for the
better and it's for the sake of God and
so if it's for the sake of God then only
good can come out of it um but I think
for me it was really Allah I I honestly
have like it's very weird a thing with
me where I just to me I've always kind
of when my opinions changed I accept
Okay this is what I believe now and this
is what makes the most sense and I'm and
I'll just continue with my life you know
it's like I I said okay I'm Muslim now
now what do I have to do you know there
wasn't this big moment of like
you know this I I've always felt like uh
it was simply just the next step in my
journey and I've always been open to my
life changing yes um so it it was a very
what really hit me was like afterwards
yes you know I would say my next month
in I spent Ramadan in Indonesia and so I
think I had a lot of time to reflect and
and be alone because I went there all by
myself and that was really uh where I
started to realize that you know my my
life is going to be so much more
enriched with purpose and and meaning
and uh and you know a connection with
God is something that I never knew you
could even have right a connection with
uh Supreme Being Supernatural is real um
to me that even just that and knowing I
could have a connection I can put my
head on the ground and speak to my
Creator these are all things that as an
atheist you don't even you don't realize
how much value there is isn't that last
question uh for the uh Justin beaver
Justin beaver himself and other
childhood actor uh actors out there
Hollywood actors who might watch this
and they got that void and they're not
happy they might be indulging in many
things they shouldn't be but they're
looking at you they're inspired by you
what advice do you have for them I would
say honestly
to to look at your life and decide how
and understand that you know we don't
know when we die and really
conceptualize that because I think
people know that they don't know when
they die but we don't live our life like
that and so I would say once you once
you conceptualize the fact that you
could you could not be here tomorrow
then you need to figure out you know how
do you want to spend the time that you
have and that time in my opinion I think
should only be spent uh in in searching
for a purpose you know because if if we
don't have one then you can do whatever
so at least search you know at least be
sincere ask the creator of the universe
if you already believe in God ask the
creator of the universe to guide you and
if you don't believe in God do your
research sincerely be open-minded to the
idea that there may be a creator of the
universe um and listen to people you
know don't don't don't close yourself
off to anything right away be sincere
and inshallah Allah subhana will guide
you beautiful advice I enjoy speaking
with you talking with you Allah continue
to bless you brother and thank you guys
I told you I was inspired hope you're
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ask the one who created you for a
purpose the creator of heavens and earth
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