But the part with guys like this
is burning the Quran. Burning a
>> burning a Quran. Listen
bunch of race trading [\h__\h] Patrick
back David deport him.
>> Oh my. And the restaurant's not listen.
>> My son is reading it. What? Burning the
Quran.
>> He went to Puerto Rico and he handed out
5,000 Spanish Qurans. And we want
everybody that received those Qurans to
throw them in the garbage.
>> So you originally you didn't like
Muslims?
>> No, I didn't like Muslims. Absolutely
not.
>> Islam is not welcome in Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rico is a Christian nation just
like America.
>> I'm black and blew off from the Bronx.
And let me tell you something. First
off, remember America is not a Christian
nation. It is a secular republic based
on freedom of religion.
>> Burn it. It's the dumbest thing you can
do.
>> You said meditation crystals.
>> Meditation crystals. They call it new
age. It's caught with mushrooms, right?
right, with mushrooms. And when it comes
to psychedelic, I wasn't always Muslim.
Subhan Allah. I let's just say I I'm
familiar.
>> So that's the code to correct. At the
end of the day, he's on drugs.
>> At the end of the day,
>> when he's doing this, he's on drugs.
>> He's Yeah, that's that's part of it. But
also, he has a hustle.
>> What he's doing, burning the Quran,
shoving baking in it. You know exactly
what his motive is. And that's not
normal and that's not natural, Pat.
That's not organic. That's all a show.
and he's in a restaurant with butane or
lighter fluid lighting and nobody's
saying anything. He's a fraud. He's a
fraud.
>> This is the the
assalam. Greetings of peace. My next
guest, Joshua Emory, former Christian
minister from the Bronx, filmmaker,
creative director based in Fort Worth,
Texas, y'all. After 13 years of Catholic
school, and later, that's where he
became a Christian minister. And his
spiritual journey eventually led him to
Islam.
uh which if you didn't know has become
the fastest growing way of life religion
in the world according to the Guinness
Book of World Records and more recent
Pew Research shows that Islam is the
fastest going growing major religion.
Now, Joshua Emmery. He is currently
directing Rifts, a documentary exploring
religious freedom, Christian
nationalism,
and who gets to define what it means to
be an American. And he's the one and
only who's cracked the code with the
liar lang. We'll get into all this and
more here on this episode of the Dean
Show. Progress, mashallah, is
phenomenal. the room we're in right now,
the floors, the prayer areas, beautiful
facility. Please donate to this
phenomenal [music]
project. Alhamdulillah.
>> Asalam alaikum. Greetings of peace.
Peace be upon you, my brother.
>> How are you doing, brother?
>> Alhamdulillah. I'm good. Alhamdulillah.
It's great to be here in uh you know on
the show. Mashallah. I'm honored, you
know, uh, to be in your presence and,
you know, may Allah subhana wa ta'ala
grant some benefit.
>> A mean thank you very much for accepting
the invitation. I want to get into this
video that I saw and you really went
deep into what your docu documentary is
about. You had a brother who went out
trying to educate people on the most
misunderstood way of life yet according
Guinness Book of World Records, the
fastest going way of life. So, uh, many
people are misinformed, so we're trying
to educate them. And then this happened.
So, let's watch this clip and then
you'll kind of break it down for us.
>> He went to Puerto Rico and he handed out
5,000 Spanish Qurans. And we want
everybody that received those Qurans to
throw them in the garbage. Islam is not
welcome in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico is a
Christian nation just like America.
>> I'm black and bone equal from the Bronx.
Let me tell you something. First off,
remember, America is not a Christian
nation. It is a secular republic based
on freedom of religion. You can be
whatever religion you want. So calling
it a Christian nation as a
presupposition of the claim already
completely destroys it. In fact, I'm
making a movie about it. It's called
Rifts. You should check it on my page.
Secondly, Islam was in America before
Puerto Rico was. And I say this as a
borqua. Yon Leo Creo. So you over here
like a Johnny come lately fighting for
the same people who gave you
Christianity in the first place. If you
ain't know who I was, you know now. I'm
there with [music] the lead scholar of
Jefferson studies who focuses on freedom
of religion, John Raghasta in Virginia
[music] in Montichello at Thomas
Jefferson's house telling me that Thomas
Jefferson had if in a white house which
is the breaking of the fast of Ramadan
that some of these slaves was Muslim. Do
you have more right over the say of this
country than the Africanamean Muslim
slaves who built this country? Puerto
Rico didn't become a territory until
1898. Muslims have been in America since
the 1500s. [music]
Although I got to run that back.
>> You know, white folks don't like that
kind of praying.
>> I think
>> you should be quiet
>> and let my brother cook as he has been
cooking. And one thing I'm going to let
y'all know for all those people who hate
Islam, Islam is the fastest growing
religion, not just in the world, but
also in the country in America by
conversion alone. So if you remove birth
rate, conversion alone, it's time for
y'all to get comfortable. You understand
what I'm saying? So before you go off on
this misappropriation of who you think
you are within the context of the
American experience, homie, you need to
listen to OG Americans like me cuz I'm
bora, but I'm an Africanamean whose
ancestors been here and built this
country. When they tell you that you
wrong and that you need to sit down,
take a seat, papa, because in reality,
Islam is here to stay. It is what it is.
I forgot to mention that you're actually
your descendants are connected to the
Thomas Jefferson.
>> Yes. Yes. So um so it's through my wife
and obviously my child as well. Um
alhamdulillah. Uh so they're descendants
of the enslaved laborers of Thomas
Jefferson. So they're they're
descendants of the enslaved laborers of
Thomas Jefferson. So um every year um we
go to a project. It's called the Getting
Word Project where they highlight the
narratives of these families. It's an
oral history uh project and we go to
Thomas Jefferson's house. We get to
speak to some of the historians. We, you
know, they they take us out um you know
for different dinners and onto different
um uh uh plantations as well so that we
can see some of the history of Virginia
and the establishment of this country.
Um uh the clip that I the the piece that
I mentioned in that clip was a
conversation that I was fortunate enough
to have with John Raasta. John Raasta is
the um the head so quote unquote head
historian of Jefferson studies in
Montichello. He works literally right
next to his house and all he does all
day is research Jefferson's life and his
area of expertise is religious freedom.
>> Wow. that's his area of expertise. So I
was, you know, delighted to have a
conversation with him. And I asked him,
I said, "Well, okay. Uh, so let's talk
about the Islamic role in terms of
establishing the United States." And I
know PBS came out with a documentary a
little bit later after I released um
this, not that there's any connection,
but um where they go a little bit more
into depth, but I asked him a question.
I said I said in terms of the law,
that's what I was curious about the
legal system because one of the things
that the Islamophobes mention all the
time is that they're trying to bring
Sharia law. They're trying to bring
Sharia law. In our conversation, we go
into the legal aspects of of America.
And I said, tell me about it because we
know that Jefferson has a Quran. What's
what's what's up with that? He says,
yes, he does have a Quran. In fact, we
know when he got it. He got it in 1765
while while he was studying law under um
John W which was a legal scholar of the
time and and when he got it he was
studying comparative law studying
comparative religion and I said you as
the top historian we have on this matter
in this country would you say do you
think that Jefferson was using pieces of
say the Bible pieces of of the of the
Torah and pieces of the Quran to
establish American all as we have it
today. And he said, "I think that's
right."
And and
>> and when he said that, I was like,
"Thank you." In my mind, you know, I'm
like, "Thank you so much." Because what
that does is that it completely removes
the the the foundation of some of these
people's claims of oh they're going to
bring you're standing on Sharia law and
don't even know it aspects of American
experience according to our head
historians are are are um are um in our
our legal system today. So some of the
freedoms that you quote unquote these
freedoms that you that that that that
you love or these quote unquote American
values, you're actually fighting against
without even knowing. So I thought that
that was just um very rewarding, you
know, for for just the Islamic world to
hear. Um so yeah, at that at at that
point um we also understood he had
mentioned he said Jefferson had an if in
the White House. Thomas Jefferson was
somebody who literally on his grave
right now in Virginia, if you go there,
it says there's three things that he
wanted to be remembered for. One of them
was the signing of the Declaration of
Independence. The second one was the
establishment of UVA, University of
Virginia. And the last one was religious
freedom. And it's across his grave, the
word religious freedom. So
>> that's across his grave. Thomas
Jefferson's grave. You can see it.
>> It says religious freedom.
He's the he's the one that was focused
really on this.
>> Absolutely. Um because you know the
founding fathers one thing that was
mentioned in that in that same interview
on the larger version inshallah which um
I I will um inshallah I'm going to uh
re-release and add to the film etc. But
one of the things that the that the that
he had mentioned was that uh John Roasta
was that the founding fathers were
trying to avoid some of the wars that
were happening in Europe over over um
religious freedom. So much so that uh
that uh one of the quotes from from one
of the founding fathers the the one uh
who said it is not coming to me right
now. I think it was James Madison, but
don't quote me. But anyway, he says he
says there were oceans of blood. we want
to avoid the oceans of blood in Europe
and that that we saw in Europe and I was
like wow that's incredible. Um so I mean
why why were we told in school that the
pilgrims came came here? It was for
religious freedom.
>> They were escaping religious
persecution. Now we have a new day where
people are persecuting Muslims,
persecuting uh uh uh like Jews,
persecuting different kinds of religion.
I don't care what you are in America.
This is not a Christian nation. This is
a secular republic. You can practice
whatever you want as long as you stay in
line with the law.
>> Because these people who are trying to
ride that uh bandwagon of hate under the
pretense of a Christian nation, if
you're a Christian, you're not doing
mushrooms and drugs and LSD, are you?
>> No. No. Not a proper Christian. No,
you're staying away from
>> because it's liar delaying. That's what
he got locked up for, right?
>> Yes. He Yes. He got he he got locked for
for for mushrooms. Multiple things. But
yes, mushrooms. He did have mushrooms on
his on his person. Yes.
>> And I see these people who are riding
this nationalistic this hate bandwagon
as soon as they you know things simmer
down. These are the people that now it's
like which version of Christianity are
we going to be following? Your version
LSD version what version of
Christianity? And then they're going to
be at each other's throats. And this is
exactly what the founding fathers they
didn't want that same fighting
>> and division
>> and and this this this type of this type
of issue as well. I mean, you know, it's
it's all across the country. Like uh I
don't know if you heard of the water um
the the Muslim water park uh incident in
Texas. It was an epic water park
incident where tell us about
>> um uh Dr. Amina and um Imam Muhammad
Abdullah, Imam of the people,
>> shout out to him. He they were they were
organizing an Eid event. It was for
Muslims and Greg Abbott uh pressured the
mayor to shut it down.
>> It was a a Eid event. Everybody has
their own events. There's Christian
events. There's
>> Christmas events, Hanukkah.
>> But for some reason, it was a place
where Muslims could feel safe and go to
the water park in a modest environment,
modest dress. Alhamdulillah. And um you
know, they they they shut that down.
Greg Abbott shut it down. And you know,
later on, we went to we went to to Grand
Perry. We went and spoke to the mayor
and told him he was wrong. Um and you
know, these kinds of
>> How do you react?
>> Uh he saw because there were there was
there was a few of us there. Subhan
Allah. Our our goal was to make sure
that we were putting pressure on him and
he was like, "Well, you know, thank you
very much for the points. Thank you."
You know, just lip service.
>> But at the end of the day, he he folded
under under Greg Abbott knowing that
that that DFW, that part of Texas right
now is a growing growing growing um
Islamic uh community. So, he's kind of
in hot water now to say the least. So,
and he knew that.
>> So, this is this is very interesting.
So, keep breaking down this video here.
You start off with first off, America is
not a Christian nation.
>> It's not.
>> And this is based on evidence. And then
again, this is not an attack on
Christians or anything, but just we're
stating the facts now.
>> Yeah. It's it's it's not a Christian
nation. And it it was never meant to be.
Culturally, we we we may have Christian
aspect.
>> Even though before you go on, please, we
we have a lot in common. We we like this
you know when you go into uh many of the
the the
original way back in the day of people
really following properly let's say
modesty and dressing like the Mary the
mother of Jesus uh honesty family all
these virtues are from Islam same thing
right so we want that
>> yes
>> but they're they're using it to try to
chase out uh chase out Muslims
>> yeah it's it's almost like well you know
a lot of times I noticed that people
they they they attach religion to their
own egos. Yeah. So, so you know, it it
was never quote unquote.
It was never in the way of God.
>> It was more so something that that um I
I I need a F450 truck to bulldoze
through life with. So therefore, what
better thing to use than the name of
God?
>> Yeah.
>> You know, um the thing about Islam that
is different is that, you know, though
we have people on on the Islamic side as
well who do the same thing. This this is
not this is not a this doesn't happen in
a vacuum on one side. But I think that
the the the blessing that Islam carries
is that we have to put our head on the
ground five times a day. We have to
eject out of the world, the matrix, the
dunya, whatever you want to call it five
times a day in order to to release
oursel to to to um to Allah subhanahu wa
ta'ala. So I think that's the
difference. But um to answer your
question, I mean there is there's
mountains and mountains. you you've
worked on a documentary yourself or or
um about about religious fre whether
this is a Christian country or not right
>> we disc we discussed it yes we discussed
it with my guests previous yes
>> I had a uh Dr. Gerald Dirks he was a
deacon also somebody who graduated with
a DD from Dr. a divinity Harvard uh
university graduate and he academically
refuted this. He went into and showed
that no this is not in any which way
form a Christian nation.
>> Yes. And and this is I mean
>> according to the founding fathers and
their statements and
>> yeah the whole
>> what they've said and
>> the whole thing about freedom is that
you can pick you can choose and the
reason like on this film that I'm
working on now riffs it's it's called
riffs in American crucible because the
crucible was a famous play um in which
they are villainizing the witches in the
Salem witchcraft shop. So they're
chasing after the witch witch witch
trying to burn them at the stake etc.
But technically, right, in America,
there shouldn't be a quote unquote witch
to chase after and and and um and uh and
burn at the stake. But it looks to me
like the Muslims are becoming the new
version, the new iteration of the the
witch to burn at the stake.
>> Yeah. Would you say I I these are real
fake Christians? What are these? I mean,
and then again, like you were saying,
ego, now they're they're just using this
as a excuse, a pretest under
Christianity to try to go ahead and, uh,
fulfill their agenda.
>> Yeah. I mean, like, you know, uh,
Christianity has been one of the most,
and I say this with all due respect
because I got Christian friends, I got
Christian family, but it has been one of
the most like, uh, infiltrated religions
by politics that I've ever seen. And
this goes back to, you know, the
establishment of the trinity, you know,
this this Greco Roman um influence of,
yeah, Jesus is God for the law. This
idea that this Hercules kind of idea
where let me add in some some uh
previous pagan rel um beliefs in order
to to make the religion more palatable.
Constantine and all of these. Let me let
me add in some of the Oh, Christian.
Yeah, this I mean, excuse me, Christmas.
Yes, this is the this is the Satnelia.
Yeah, we believe that already. Let me
just throw sandwich that into into
Christianity. Let me remix this book a
little bit and a little bit more. Then
denominations come out. The Protestant
Reformation happens. Let me just kind of
So unfortunately, you know, Christianity
has been hijacked by so many political
figures that this that the religion is
primed for that.
>> It's it's because out of so many years
it has actually removed itself. Not all,
but but the Bible itself and general
Christianity, Christian dumb, for lack
of better word, has removed itself from
just being something religious into
something more of a like a a way to
control people.
>> But when you look at, let's say, the
teachings, which many of them don't
quote, and you have Tucker Carlson, I've
heard Candace Owens quote these verses,
the uh what is it called? The u
biatitudes, biatitudes,
>> the biatitudes. Yes,
>> biatitudes. Uh statements of Jesus.
Blessed are the peacemakers.
Um all all the all of these teachings of
mercy, of love, and this would be more
in tune with
uh Jesus, the prince of peace, right?
>> Uh but it seems like love of your
neighbor, all of these things kind of
gone out the window with these
nationalists.
>> Yeah, they've totally gone out the
window. I would say that because it's
it's not about Jesus.
>> No,
>> it's [laughter] not about Jesus. It was
never really about Jesus.
>> So, this is more about supremacy then.
This is like
>> Yes, this is supremacy. And this is
something as someone who is an
African-American in this country whose
ancestors have seen these things
firsthand, who I've I've even seen these
races firsthand. This is about identity.
This is about this is about um an all
quote unquote white America. This is
about this is about control. This was
never about the love of Christ because
nine times out of 10, if these same
people saw Christ, they would probably
try to try to oppress him too.
>> Yeah. Because he was Middle Eastern.
>> Yeah. So he was not from he he the image
that they have the Caesar Ber image that
they have
>> here blue eyes in the church.
>> This is not this is not the same uh
Jesus that uh that uh [laughter] what
they have in their mind. It's not the
same Jesus that lived in the in in the
in the Middle East at the time. And then
the Middle East looked different back
then, too. So, it's it's um it's it's
sad to say that we're dealing with uh
with um pundits of the devil.
>> Wow. You have a very interesting story
because for 13 years of your life, you
went to was it Catholic school?
>> Catholic. Yes.
>> You're a Catholic.
>> Mhm.
>> And then you became a Christian
minister.
>> Yes.
>> Tell us a little bit about that.
>> So, I went to Catholic school like you
said for 13 years. My mother, she was
she was Catholic and, you know, though
she wasn't like heavily practicing, you
know, she kind of saw it as a way that
she wanted to have me in a in a private
school and she's she, you know, worked
as hard as she possibly can. I remember
um she was just telling me the stories
of her struggle to keep me in that
school. She said, "I used to have to
wear
$3 shoes to make sure you went in there
to make sure I'm I'm I'm taking care of
your your tuition." My father disagreed
with it, though. My father, he he was he
was a Jehovah's Witness. So, I'm
studying the Bible from one angle for 13
years. And my father being the Jehovah's
Witness, he's pointing out all of the
things that he saw wrong inside of the
inside of the Catholic church. All the
bids. Yeah. Exactly. So he's like he's
you know I'm I I find myself in in
fourth grade saying oh brother brother
brother brother brother so and so uh you
know I see the Mary statue of up there
and I see the you know the body and
blood of Jesus up there on the cross but
like um may I turn your attention to
Exodus 20:4 and 5 which is the second
commandment where it says thou shalt not
make unto thee any graven image of
anything in the heavens above or the
earth beneath. Uh what what does that
mean? And over a w after a while, I was
known as the kid that walked around with
a different kind of Bible like a King
James and I had a couple Bibles walking
around there just kind of like
challenging and questioning um some of
these things. So I was able to get the
knowledge but more so from an objective
point of view thanks to my father. the
Jehovah's Witnesses um though you know
um though they are Christian I would say
that they are some of the closest
Christians in in in certain beliefs to
to Muslims from my from my own point of
view they don't believe in the Trinity
they don't believe in the cross they
don't um they don't celebrate Christmas
Easter
all of these things but you know
obviously they have the the belief that
Jesus is the son of God stuck with the
law but um other than that you know it
was kind of like a great foundation
for becoming Muslim and like knocking on
door you know I was knocking on doors
teaching people and eventually through
that process
>> you're actually a Christian knocking on
doors
>> yes I was knocking on doors yes
>> yeah trying to get people to uh
>> to become Christians yes to become
Christians
>> and I got a couple people to become
Christian
>> you know and mashallah many of those
people who became Christian after I kind
of ventured off on my own um this was
this was after I was baptized and you
became a minister etc. Those same people
are now
sayingahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahillah
sallallahu alaihi wasallam.
>> What did you just say in Arabic?
Translate that for
>> there is no god worthy of worship except
for the one god Allah and that the
prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be
upon him is the messenger of God peace
and blessings be upon him.
>> I always like to just make this caveat
in Aramaic Jesus would have said Allah
you said Allah is the same creator.
>> Yeah. I literally showed that to my
cousin yesterday. I said, "What what
language did Jesus speak?" You know,
>> and showed him because,
>> you know, this connection and by the
way, my I like I I used to start videos
off and I used to say I'm a Muslim and
my father was in 9/11
>> as a firefighter that is.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, and I would always say that
because because the type of mindset I'd
never really even liked Muslims like
that,
>> you know, and though my father wasn't
amongst neither was his father.
>> So, you originally you didn't like
Muslims?
>> No, I didn't like Muslims. Absolutely
not. I did not like [laughter] I did not
like Muslims at all because I I thought
that they were bringing over something
strange and uh and what have you and I
didn't know all of the I knew some of
the history of the Nation of Islam and
all of these other things, but I didn't
like after 9/11 the propaganda was so
>> So would you say you were a victim of
the hate machine propaganda?
>> Yes, I was. I was 100% a victim of the
hate machine propaganda. But even though
my father my father um he he and his
many members of his firehouse wasn't of
the mind that Muslims had anything to do
with 9/11 and he taught me that.
>> Was was he one of those? You can hear in
the in the earlier reports firefighters
testifying that they heard boom boom
boom boom boom. Okay.
>> So he's he's in that firehouse. He's in
that firehouse. Yeah. Wow.
>> Those are his boys.
>> Okay. He's the one that's uh also with
the um the uh mysterious building 7
collapsing. This is another topic, but
uh he's on that camp.
>> He's Yeah, he's in that camp. So So
[laughter]
So you know, I I I grew up with that.
But so it wasn't necessarily
>> So those firefighters understand.
>> Yeah. Oh, they understand. New York
firefighters, they very they they were
very Especially during that time. This
was before it was popular, before all of
these like videos, loose chains, all of
these things came out. they were already
like what just happened because they
there was a lot of cognitive dissonance
going on in the FDI community because of
what they just saw. You know, my father
would tell me stories of like people
you'd go to the you'd go to the
firehouse and it was so many people that
if you didn't grab your gear like your
gear was gone if you didn't came in time
like people were just rushing and
rushing and like I think that the
propaganda it wasn't even the 9/11 thing
for me. It was that we had automatically
gone to war to Iraq and Afghanistan and
that my cousin was in the military and
that and that, you know, all of these it
was okay to to to um oh have a Muslim uh
jihadist puppet um uh with a
ventriloquist and all of these movies
and I was a victim of that.
>> Not even the 911 part, but everything
beyond that. There's so much that came
that Islam you couldn't tell me you
couldn't tell me a thing.
>> Mhm.
So then uh from there, how long did it
take? I mean, so you're Christian
minister and then what's your first
exposure to to Islam?
>> So after
>> besides all of the negative stuff that's
out there, the stereotypes and the the
misinformation, lies?
>> Well, you
>> that triggered you to start looking into
it?
>> I think I don't want to be too cliche
here, but uh the the autobiography of
Malcolm X was one of those
>> that's did it for a lot of people.
>> Oh my goodness. Subhan Allah. If you
have not read that book, anyone who has
not read that book, I definitely
recommend to read it because it shows a
transition from someone who is in
Jahalah, complete Jahalia or ignorance,
>> moving all the way over into into
something what he thought was like a
full expression of Islam into an actual
full expression of Islam. Subhan Allah.
It's a it's the spiritual journey. And I
think that that was that was one of
them. So I always kind of would watch
like, you know, pro it was a pro black
thing for me at the time. So it was just
like just kind of learning history. So
that's when it first came in. And then
as time progressed, I I met I I I I I
left uh the as a minister. I had to be
like maybe a week or two after I I
actually got the title. Something in my
heart didn't feel right. I said,
"Something's off here. I feel like I'm
lying to God because I don't truly truly
something in my heart doesn't truly feel
off of this. I think I'm just doing what
my father taught me, what my mother
taught me, what the school taught me.
Something's not real. I didn't make this
choice.
I I'm someone else's decisions. I'm
living as someone else's choice. So from
there, I got into the law of attraction
and the crystals and the meditation and
the Reiki and all of these things in New
York. So much so that my nickname was
Emerald Stone, which is my Instagram
handle. as um
>> what were somebody you said meditation
crystals
>> meditation crystals they call it new age
>> yeah new age
>> yeah new age um which is basically a
remnants of the the hippie era um you
know people go to the to like um
Southeast Asian um you know uh pagan
cultures or Buddhism and they'll what
they'll do is they'll come back
repackage it and
>> that's what I was I was talking to um I
was talking to someone the other day and
I was saying this is uh cuz you have
paganism and And it these things just
get rehashed. They get repackaged. Would
you say this is just a re repackaging?
>> Instead of people worshiping, you know,
the big stones, you got crystals, the
small modern stones, right?
>> Well, I would say I would say like the
devil's always repackaging.
>> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]
>> The devil's always repackaging. Yes.
>> Always repackaging. So, you know, it's
it's it's um this is why, you know, you
hold on to to the Quran and Sunnah. My
Sheikh Abdul Rashid Mukeshi, he he
taught he he taught me that. He said,
you know, you got to be careful. And he
was speaking uh specifically to he's he
to a community that um is they're from a
majority Muslim country.
>> And you know, he he came through the
Nation of Islam. And then he he he said
back in the day he said uh Islam was
seen like more as like a like to the
general public was like a black thing.
Like it was like in the 60s and 70s and
80s. It was like it was like kind of
like the black Hebrew Israelites
>> like like that kind of like you know it
was just kind of like not not in the
same same um area but just it was just
kind of seen like that. And then in the
'9s we have um you know a lot of um
people from Islamic majority countries
coming to America and then Islam starts
to change like it's already established
but it starts the presentation starts to
change. So years later after shutting
I'm talking about he's shutting down
crackouses like all of these things he
sees a lot of these big mass sheets
coming and he says he's like he says
just make sure he said alhamdulillah you
made it to America he said alhamdulillah
he said but there's many of us he said
make sure that that your heart like he
said I've seen a lot of people whose
bodies are prostrated toward Mecca but
their hearts are prostrating toward the
west.
>> Mhm. So he's you know make sure that
your that that your heart is sincere in
in in in practicing this dean and and
even if you're here already you the
beauty of al-Islam is that you can
always re-establish your intentions you
can always change your intentions
alhamdulillah so um yeah like you know
it's uh just a journey from from from
going to a space of jahalyah the
intention was to find God the intention
even with the crystals and everything
like that, you know, cuz people wear
diamonds, they wear gems, but if you
think that that crystal is going to help
you in a way that Allah subhana wa
ta'ala that excludes Allah subhana wa
ta'ala and that there's a benefit
like there is no power, there's no might
except for Allah, then that is sh that
is you're going into the realm of you're
moving into into into a completely
different like space um where they are
repackaging repackaging paganism. um um
for you to uh for you to basically um
consume. Alhamdulillah. So,
>> I want to get into this uh cracking of
the code. So, let's watch this uh clip
here. This is from the PBD. You've heard
of the PBD podcast
>> and there was um a clip now that's going
around of the same person that you
cracked the code with, and we'll talk
about that. what we mean by that
cracking the code
>> of him just coincidentally having uh
some gasoline or some lighter fluid and
he meets up with uh Adam the co-host at
the PBD podcast and he starts burning
the Quran. I don't know if you've seen
this clip.
>> So, okay. So, and then here's what
happens. You run into a guy named
>> I don't want to say his name. It's just
>> you have to say his name.
>> I think it's Jake.
>> Jake Lang.
>> So, here's what happens. Go for it.
>> What you guys do, but you guys need to
get pressed out.
>> Uhoh. You guys need a couple bombs
dropped on your podcast. I'm gonna burn
the Quran
thing at all.
>> Yeah, that should have been.
>> By the way, he's sitting with like 10
people. He has a Quran. He's Jewish.
He's against that. That's B. Yeah.
>> W. I [\h__\h] with that.
>> I just kept saying not my thing, buddy.
This is not my thing. It's not You're
not my thing,
>> dude. This guy's burning.
>> Not my thing. Not my thing. He's burning
a
>> He's burning a Quran.
>> Listen, he's sitting there. this bunch
of race trading [\h__\h] Patrick Beck
David deport him.
>> Oh my. And the restaurant's not solicit.
>> What are your thoughts when you cuz you
had a couple interactions with him?
>> Absolutely.
>> Also when the cameras weren't rolling.
>> Yeah, absolutely. So, uh, the first time
I met Jake Lang, it was, uh, during a
protest that he had organized for Epic,
um, uh, East Plano Islamic Center in in
in, uh, Texas. Um, and it was
interesting because, you know, he
brought out a lot about a lot of
Islamophobes and people who were like
totally convinced
>> totally convinced that Islam is evil,
wicked, and is here to destabilize the
the country and um I did a few
interviews with them and you know what
eventually I was I was looking for him
and I found him at city hall because he
he took the march from from there to
city hall. Um when I went to city hall,
um I asked him a few questions. There's
there's there's clips of those on my
Instagram. Um I asked him a few
questions and um you know, some of them
he couldn't answer, some of them he
could. Uh but at the end of it, um I
asked him a a question after the cameras
went down. This is right before he was
about to leave. I said, "Jake,
I could kind of see you now. Now that
I'm up close and personal and I'm
hearing what you're saying and I can
look in your eyes, I I see you. I said,
"Let me ask you something, Jake." I
said, "Why the pig heads, man? Like, why
are you taking pig heads that are
bleeding out of the bottom and and and
and and holding them in front of the
mosque? Why?" And he looked at me and he
said, "Oh." He said, "Cuz it's lit." And
to be lit, it's like it's it's exciting.
Cuz it's lit. And he got up in the car
and drove away.
And in that moment, I had realized that
this isn't even really anything serious
on his side. For him, it was something
more like sensationalism, almost like
WWE, like wrestling, like you know, can
you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Like, and what basically what he does is
he'll go to uh organize a protest on his
Instagram bio. He will raise money for
it, for the protest. Hey, we're going to
we're going to Plano. Oh, we're going to
to Tampa. We're going here. We're going
there. Um, and people will continuously
fund him. But in his bio, it says that
he's running for US Senate. Believe it's
Senate. And he has a photo with an
American flag behind him. So, this is
all a ploy to go viral to then hopefully
get gain some sort of political control.
Um, so, you know, having known that and
and seeing it and I've I've ran into him
again um at different um protests before
and have had conversations with with w
with him. Um his code is just to say the
most outrageous thing he possibly can.
He was caught with mushrooms, right?
With mushrooms. And when it comes to
psychedelic, I wasn't always Muslim.
Subhan Allah. I let's just say I I'm
familiar. And with with something like
mushrooms, mushrooms, the best way I
could explain that is like almost like
taking handcuffs and strapping yourself
to a rocket and letting it go. So if you
if you're using all of these psych
psycho psychedelic, you know, drugs on
your excapades,
the the the level of power that you
feel, the level of like of of of um
presence that you gain is is highly
maximized. It's not a coffee buzz. It's
something else. So, you know, um this is
uh this is this is his game. This is,
you know, this is this is his game. His
game is to get attention, which is why I
don't recommend Muslims give it to him.
>> Mhm. So, that's his circus show.
>> Yeah.
>> That's his circus show. He has a circus
show. And I know we're talking about him
right now, but like just to make each
other aware that
>> I think this cracking of the code is
very important.
>> Yeah. And and I'm hoping that people who
are sincere, people who I mean, even
those who don't like being lied to, you
know, when they hear this and they be
like, "Okay, that makes sense." Like
he's on drugs, so what what does that
have to do with being a Christian,
right?
>> You should be away from everything
immoral. Uh everything bad. So he gets
caught with drugs. M
>> and then it would make sense that he's
taking these drugs that he got caught
with and he's getting this kind of this
false sense now that he's like you said
handcuffed to a rocket so he can just go
up and do whatever he want cuz he puts
himself in uh really bad situations
>> where he's getting beat up.
>> Yes. And then more money comes in.
>> More money comes in. Oh man, look at
this. He he wants to get punched in the
face.
>> Yeah. like because you know if he has
blood oh man I bled for American freedom
you know I bled look at me I'm just such
a oh a martyr I'm you know I'm I'm I'm
all these things I put my life on the
line for America and and and and for
white Christian men you know this is
this this is what he does and even you
know I met him past um in in another I
didn't I didn't know he was coming like
I was at the Carmelo Anthony trial was a
big like racial racial um uh beef for
lack of better words where we see the
>> um uh you know a black uh uh youth. He
he was apparently according to to him
getting jumped and he stabbed one of
them and he came out of nowhere while I
was kind of covering and reporting what
was happening outside. He comes with a
sign and it has a bunch of like like
different like people up there like um
victims up there and he's yelling. He's
like uh you know uh saying Carmelo
Anthony should be hung from a tree. He's
saying some horrible things and I'm
inter I interview him again because I'm
I'm working on this film. I I need to
see the root of of what's causing this
division in this country and you know he
said you know we need to reestablish
race relations. He goes into all of
these anti kind of statements to what he
just said. And you know, uh, upon
running into him again, um, that video,
it goes like super viral. And when it
goes viral, um, he alongside that time,
he actually got arrested in the state of
Texas.
>> He said he was going to take the law in
his own hands. Yes.
>> If the courts didn't do anything. Is
that what he said?
>> Yep. He said he's going to take the law
into his own hands. And at that point
they locked him up and then they said,
"Look, just get out of here and never
come back because you've caused so much
trouble in Texas."
>> Mhm.
>> You know, you think you can just run
around here? They the law said no. Which
is actually surprising to me. But
>> it it reminds me I want to just take us
back. You know, Prophet Muhammad, peace
and blessings be upon him. The one
obviously you looked into his life, the
brother to Jesus and Moses and Abraham,
they all came with the same message,
worship the creator, not the creation.
He was known as Alam, right? The
trustworthy. Even the the pagan Arabs at
that time, there was a code of honesty,
wasn't there? When um was it Abu Sufyan,
one of them, he was in front of the the
Najes, the um the Christian just king,
>> and they were asking him about Prophet
Muhammad.
>> And he was telling the truth about him.
He was saying he was honest. He was
telling him, you know, all all the good
characteristics about him. And then they
asked him later, why did you tell all
the truth? Because he didn't want to be
known as a liar. He right people were
behind him. and they would have called
him out. But in this culture now in the
society, we have a person like this and
the reason I also can talk on him
because I know personally uh cuz he he's
popped in here where you're at now in
the dean center. He popped in here and
we had an event. The event was called
gratitude to God
>> shook to Allah the creator. It was open
to everybody. It was live streamed. It's
live streamed so everybody could see
they could still see what was being
talked about uh here multiple day
program. He pops up. He fakes being
Muslim. He's dressed in uh Pakistani uh
garb, right, outfit. And then he gets
escorted out because he makes he gets uh
seen by someone who recognized him and
asked him, "Why are you faking like you
know you're Indopacy or whatever, as if
that's um as if you're Muslim." And then
he makes a scene, goes out, starts
recording himself saying, "Oh, you don't
allow Christians in here." And you know,
and all this other stuff. And then to
counter that, we had a Jewish man, a
Christian lady. We had a Christian a
Jewish man and others uh who are not
Muslim and they testified how they were
treated with love and respect and they
had a great time and they saw his
statement. They can you guys can watch
the video that we made and they're like,
"This guy's a liar. He's just lying.
He's making up stuff up. He goes on
podcast saying that they were recruiting
military age style men and they're
making a plan how they're going to take
over. Total lie." So, so my point here
is where what kind what code of conduct
of ethics of integrity is anyone who's
following this man because obviously
these uh these people are full of hate
they want a leader they got this leader
but what good quality usually a leader
like Malcolm X or or the uh what's um um
leaders of our what's the other
Christian please my tongue the uh Jesse
Martin Luther King or so has the people
who had some kind of uh some qualities
of leadership who what what are you
gaining from this guy.
>> Well,
>> mushrooms and LSD, how you going to get
drunk and burn books and stuff?
>> Well, you know, um there are diseases of
the heart.
>> Yeah.
>> And and and when you have a disease, if
you have a parasite, all a parasite can
do is eat more and more and more. And
you know, some people, I mean, it's not
exclusive to Christians, as Muslims,
Jewish people, etc.
As humanity, we have diseases of the
heart. And when we see something a
parasite that's starting to eat this
parasite being a hateful one, we are
gonna we're gonna try in every every um
every way that we can to be aligned with
that, to follow it, to see what's next.
Oh, how can I get involved? For
instance, um the Jake Langs of the
world, they they they influence a lot of
other uh social media creators to do the
same thing. They influence them. Like
for instance, Mashelad Islam, I believe
it's the the oldest masid in Dallas,
right? It's a it's a Africanamean
community. They've been feeding people
for 30 years.
>> Wow.
>> Like every Saturday for like 30 years,
probably 30 plus, but at least 30 years
they've been feeding people.
>> Some guy comes out of nowhere with a
camera on Juma
talking about, oh, you you know, your
prophet is this, your prophet is that,
you're all going to go to hell. You need
to follow Jesus. And this is a a
Christian nationalist. This is a
Christian nationalist. So I see it like
in in my in my studies for this film
like
>> that these these people the crux seems
to be um a lot of the the Christian
nationalists trying to quote unquote
take back their nation, you know,
feeling slighted, etc. But and I noticed
that a lot of times they always come
when the Muslims are doing something
good.
>> Like for when Epic they were handing out
food that day.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, we're here self care visits,
right? They have volunteer doctors,
food.
>> Before we conclude, let's uh finish up
>> owes him Dearborn and walks around and
bacon and all. This is the same guy.
>> You know which guy. You know which guy
it is. Pat, can you can you just play
that? Play that. This is a Jewish dude.
Hold on. So lower the music. This is a
Jewish dude. Okay. A Jewish guy that
goes around, says he's Christian, Pat,
and he's trying to do civil unrest
against Christians and Muslims. Okay?
You know how I feel about Islam and all
that stuff, but I have Muslims friends
and I and I love Muslims. But what he's
doing, what he's doing, burning the
Quran, shoving baking in it, you know
exactly what his motive is. And I'd be
very, very interested to see who's
paying him to be that guy. That's not
normal. And that's not natural, Pat.
That's not organic. That's all a show.
And he's in a restaurant with butane or
lighter fluid lighting and nobody's
saying anything. He's a fraud. He's a
fraud. and and allegedly texting
underage girls and trying to holler at
girls, too. So, if you think about who
he is, what he's doing, where he's from,
Pat, and then beating up cops with a
bat. Can you show that's that's him with
a bat. January 6. It's what he's
claiming. He's an operative. That's
plain and simple.
>> Burning the Quran.
My son is reading it. What? Burning the
Quran. You know, my son read Communist
Manifesto. We read everything. I read
Minecom. I I anything and everything to
get educated to learn what's going on on
the other side that you may or may not
agree with and ask yourself why are so
many other people interested in this
topic. We want to get educated, burn it.
It's the dumbest thing you can do.
>> I I was um what are your thoughts?
>> Subhan Allah. Um
you there's a word it's called grifting.
The grifter is someone who they go out
and they do outrageous things online and
they convince people to give them money.
>> Mhm.
>> This is exactly this is a this is a if
you watch him it's like a college course
on like on on what grifting is. So I
think that it's not even about intellect
for some because I met some highly quote
unquote intellectual people who support
him. It's about the diseases of the
heart that we have and the diseases that
we have as a nation. We want to like
many of us in in this nation, even
though we want peace, there's people
that they're
their hearts are damaged. They they need
to find something to fight. They need to
find that witch to burn.
>> Mhm.
>> Right. And if if if we can have the
Muslims who many Muslims are actually
the model minority in this country um
then those will be the people and those
will be the reasons as to why we can't
get ahead in life. They need a scapegoat
because to actually look in the mirror
and accept the fact that it could
possibly be me that I I might be the
reason why I'm not getting ahead of
life. I have to say these people are
taking from me. This is America. There's
enough for everybody. You're you're
you're in the land of the free, the home
of the brave. But it might not be if we
let this continue to go on.
>> Mhm.
>> So, alhamdulillah, like looking at the
looking at it, it's it's it's almost
laughable because I know the game. I've
I've done multiple interviews um with
him and I've I've I've actually behind
the scenes he's reached out to me, you
know, hey, you want to do this, you want
to do that? I'm just h
like, you know, so subhan Allah, like
having h having seen his game now when I
I see him pop up on my timeline, I just
like
>> So that's the code to correct. At the
end of the day, he's on drugs.
>> At the end of the day,
>> when he's doing this, he's on drugs.
He's Yeah, that's that's part of it. But
also, he has a hustle.
>> He has a system.
>> He's on drugs. He has a system.
>> Yeah.
>> And he's a detention [\h__\h] He wants
attention.
>> It's wrestling.
>> Yeah.
>> If you ever watch WWE and you see these
people go on and just stand there and
everybody's screaming.
>> It's lit. Like when you when you when
you when you ask them why you doing this
head, it's lit.
>> Yeah. It's lit. And you don't he doesn't
he doesn't care. He's he says he knows
Muslims. He's you know, he's it's it's
not about that. It's about it's personal
gains. Subhan Allah.
>> What do you think? Um are you familiar
with the PBD podcast? And I was I always
give credit where it's due. I try to be
fair and balanced and I've had my
personal interactions with um with
Vinnie and also with Patrick and David
and uh calling them out on the constant
vet of guests that are constantly
bashing Islam and
possibly being those who will help fuel
this type of hate and rhetoric now and
making Islam and Muslims the other. And
then you have uh people who will do
certain attacks and do things because of
uh because of a constant feeding of this
um of this propaganda. But then here I
mean how do you how do you think when
the way he's talking now about um not
burning the Quran about his sons reading
the Quran? I mean this is good advice.
You should read read I mean you know
read the book read the Quran. Read read
it for for yourself. I mean there was a
there was actually Patrick Bint talks
about a Muslim who gave him a Quran.
>> So that's a good thing. You got the
Quran now. Read it for yourself. It's
good your son's reading it but read it
with open heart. I mean it's a potential
book from the creator.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. So uh you know about him from the
past and now how he's talking now. I
mean seems positive. I mean
>> Yeah. And you know I I event uh I
initially started watching uh PBD when
he was giving like financial financial
>> he had a lot of Muslim um fans a lot of
Muslims following he's lost a big
audience because
>> I'm one of them.
>> Yeah I'm one of them. But you know in
this instance right here
>> at that part he's right. I mean like you
know even a broken clock is right twice
a day.
>> Yeah.
>> You know so at this point I mean he's
he's right. like I I actually support
that decision and I think that that
right there that might be a bit of light
um in him that could that could
potentially hopefully spark a better a
better uh view of what's going on in
America. My whole point is that we have
to if we're truly going to follow, you
know, the American Constitution and the
intention of this country, and granted
it's had amendments and it's it's it it
didn't always include everyone, but if
we're going to live in a better society,
in a better country, then we have to
understand that there you can be
whatever you want. You can practice
whatever you want. And if we let people
get away like Jake Lang and all of these
others get away with little sentences
like this is a Christian country cuz you
have to understand like there's certain
Muslims actually believe this this
rhetoric when they hear oh this is a
Christian country get out and they're
like oh man it is a Christian country.
Now I'm walking around uh like uh like
like um my imm
says he says uh uh apologetically Muslim
like you walk around apologetic oh
excuse me I don't want them to know. No.
Uh-uh. You have to understand that
people like before even like people
fought and and died to establish Islam
in this country for sure. For sure.
Fought and died to establish Islam. So
to be a apologetically
Muslim, it doesn't even occur in my
mind. It doesn't even occur in my mind.
>> This is America with no Islam, no
America. One question I asked Jake Lang
on camera. I said, "What about the
African-American Muslims who uh built
this country?" I said, "Do they need to
go back? When where do they go to?" He
said, "African-Americans?" I said,
"Yeah." So, you know, a third of of
Muslims, I mean, of of Africans were
Muslim that were brought over here,
right? And he
>> 30 40%. Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, I'm like, "You you you do know
that, right?" He's like, "Oh, well."
He's like, "Yeah, like I guess." He's
like, "Well, what did they do?" I said,
"Built the country." Yeah. built the
country. It's built the country's
economy from picking cotton to this to
that. Like, and he's like, "Yeah, okay.
Muslims pick cotton." And he walked
away. And I'm like, you know, this is
this was him escaping because he said
even in the video he admits he's like,
"I never even heard of something like
that." You know, so it's not about it's
not about what's right with these
people. Subhan Allah. It's about what
what what can get people paid, what can
get people the most attention. And they
they're digging a deeper grave in
Jahannam. And Allah knows best. I don't
want to say like you know who goes where
cuz we'll be shocked at what we see
inshallah but like there there you know
there's a point of jahalyah where if
Allah doesn't guide you and Allah Allah
decides to let you go astray and you
forget your very self then I mean
there's a point that you're just you're
just um moving toward your ruin and may
Allah protect us and keep us away from
that. I mean
>> I've heard one uh Muslim I don't know if
you heard of Myron Games he said that
we're guests here. What do you think
about that? We're not guest here.
Muslims are guests here. Have you heard
this?
>> I I I saw that video and I like
completely disagree with that. We're not
guests here. I'm I'm not a guest here.
Like um like when it comes to Islam, but
this is somebody who who see Myron G is
not necessarily I don't think he he was
he's an African-American. I think he's
from like Sudan. Sudan. Okay. And I have
a lot of people that I love from Sudan.
Subhan Allah. My teacher um a lot of my
teachers are from Sudan. Subhan Allah.
But I don't think he got the the whole
American context. You have to understand
like many of the old um the old um uh
masids that you go to in America, the
older older ones, many of them are are
American masids. They're
African-American masids. You got Islamic
Unity Center in uh in in in in Fort
Worth. You got Mashik Khalifa in
Brooklyn and Mashit Takqua in Brooklyn.
Like these are people when you look at
the first um aside from slavery since
the 1500s after that gets dis you know
dismantled in 1865 all of these things
Islam kind of kind of dissipates you
know um then you have a lot of people
won't like to admit this but you have no
Drew Ali who came in like the 19 I want
to say 13 um and he established the
Morris temple science and then it kind
of like goes away then you have in the
1930s you have the Nation of Islam Now
granted, we don't have the same Akida as
these people that I'm mentioning, but
this is like reintroducing Islam um into
into into um America. Um and then after
that, you have, you know, Malcolm X, he
breaks out, he starts he starts his
organization, and then a lot of Sunnis.
You got the War of D. Muhammad
community. You have the um the uh uh who
who else um the the what's the word I'm
looking Islam. You have a lot of
movement of people that were American
before American even exist. America even
existed. They were here.
>> We were here. That so much so that
Thomas Jefferson, the founding father of
the United States, had a Quran in 1765.
>> He was reading from the Quran. And
specifically, what I didn't mention
about that Quran is that it has a
lengthy forward about uh Sharia.
>> Mhm. So it's it's it's America is is is
is
excuse me m Islam is as American as
apple pie. And and I'll leave it at that
because subhan Allah like this this idea
of of oh we're guests. I'm not a guest.
All of the people establish Kabal X
wasn't a guest. Muhammad Ali wasn't a
guest. You know, Subhan Allah. and all
of the millions of of of Muslims that
are born, even if their parents may be
from majority Muslim countries, they're
born here right now and and and raised
here. They're not guests.
>> Mhm.
>> They're American. And I think that
that's why inshallah, we need to avoid
that that apologetically Muslim uh
attitude cuz I can't walk around like
that. Subhan Allah. This is this is a
dean. We we we come to establish the the
the oneness of God. Subhan Allah. And if
you don't take it, you don't take it.
That's between you and Allah. that's
between you and and your understanding
of God. Subhan Allah. And and and you
know, alhamdulillah, that's that's what
we're doing. Subhan Allah. So,
>> uh real quick before we conclude because
we started off with uh it set it off
with Puerto Rico with someone going a
brother going there and trying to
educate the people. How is Islam growing
in Puerto Rico? What's the situation in
with Islam in Puerto Rico?
>> Uh Islam is definitely um growing in
Puerto Rico. Subhan Allah. Shout out to
um uh Tim the Juice Man aka um the
Muslim juicer on Instagram and you know
the Puerto Rican imam and people like
this because they have been traveling to
to Puerto Rico um and as you seen in the
video handing out 5,000 Qurans 5,000
Qurans they handed out. Subhan Allah.
And people were accepting them. They
were taking them. Maybe some didn't
accept it. What what what have you. But
with Puerto Rico, it's interesting
because the way that I see the revival
of of um of Islam and Africanamean
cultures is very similar to I see the
revival in Puerto Rican culture. And
I'll tell you why. um is because
many Puerto Ricans in their history
through Spain after the the Reconista in
1492,
it was it was one year later, 1493, the
Spanish come and they they conquered
Puerto Rico. They colonized Puerto Rico
um through through uh Columbus.
>> Mhm.
What people don't know is that that
reconista era right before the
colonization of Puerto Rico was was the
the Christians under um Ferdinand and
Isabella
reclaiming
uh Granada um which was the last Muslim
uh you know state within Spain. They
reclaimed so everyone was Muslim. A year
later, a year later after after after
the conquest, everyone becomes Christian
in Spain. Not everyone, but I'm saying
like there was a a large a large um
presence of Muslims. So, they get forced
into accepting Christianity in Spain.
Many people get forced into it. That's
why in Puerto Rico, you go now, people's
last names are Medina
>> or people's name is Omar, Don Omar,
people like that.
>> They have Islamic names and they don't
know. So, it runs through their DNA
because just before one year before
Puerto Rico was colonized, uh, Spain was
still having uh, uh, Muslim states. It
still had Muslim states. So now those
people, they come, they colonize Puerto
Rico with their newfound Christianity.
Um uh and then you you combine that with
the fact that Africans coming from West
Africa who had already established Islam
uh uh in in in their in their in their
their their states or countries or what
have you, they come as well. So Puerto
Ricans have Islam in them from two
different directions cuz a Puerto Rican
is is is is Spaniard mostly Spaniard um
uh Tyino Indian and uh and African.
That's the culture. So from two
different angles of the three things
that you're likely to be
you you have Islam the likelihood of
Islam it's there. It's the same thing
with the with the the African-Americans
where you know we came here many of us
came here Muslim but when we heard even
though it wasn't in the right way when
we heard the words Quran I I strongly
believe because the DNA does hold memory
it's called genetic memory that there's
certain information in us that was
almost like reactivated when we started
hearing Allah oh the name Muhammad you
know like you hear Elijah Muhammad like
Elijah yeah that's Christian but
Muhammad it's a bridge
>> Mhm. Mhm.
>> And then eventually, you know, we start
to understand, you know, different views
of Islam and alhamdulillah, now we're
here. So, Puerto Rico, I think, is
something is some is is a place now,
inshallah, that Islam is going to be is
is going to be thriving in, you know,
inshallah. And I I see that because of
the the connection is still there. Even
though mentally, you know, we have
forgotten who we were, spiritually, the
connection is there and people are
accepting Islam left and right.
>> When is the film coming out? So the film
is still a work in progress. My aim is
for 2027 inshallah. But if you follow me
on on Instagram, inshallah then um
inshallah um we will be providing
updates and sending emails um for those
interested inshallah sending out
newsletters etc.
>> Sounds good. All right. Uh thank you
very much again. It's good having you on
the program
>> and uh uh keep me in touch with uh when
the film comes out.
>> We can't wait to see it. I thank you so
much for having me inshallah and you
know anything that I've said that was
positive it came from Allah subhana wa
ta'ala anything that I said that was
wrong it came from myself may Allah
forgive us all and alhamdulillah um and
if for those who are interested in
al-Islam who's watching this like just
take the step like you don't it's not
like your your world is going to flip
over o overnight like that's not how it
works you know subhan allah everybody
has their own spiritual journey but you
want the full context if you say you're
a Christian you want to get that third
book of the trilogy to understand you
know what what what the connection is
subhan Allah like you know we have
Judaism we have um Christianity and we
have Islam and they're all in them in
them in their purest form very beautiful
religions and paths so I invite people
inshallah to make sure that they're
they're studying you know and not just
going by what they what their parents
taught them and I I can be a living
testament to that
>> I'm going to give you a tour but what
did you think so far your first
impression ression here at the Dean
Center.
>> Oh, this place is amazing. Subhan Allah.
I the second I pulled up, I said,
"Subhan Allah." It's it's I I saw the I
saw the pillars there. Subhan Allah. The
big side. And I just thought to be
honest, like this is this is this is the
mobilization of the spreading of of da
Islam that we're talking about in
America. You folks are doing a immense
tremendous work and you know may Allah
subhana wa ta'ala continue to bless you
in these efforts because alhamdulillah
this this is not someone told me the
other day they said this is not a
practice life.
>> Subhan Allah you got to give it all you
got. Subhan Allah. And and and I think
it's quite apparent inshallah that this
is what you know the team is doing.
Subhan Allah. Alhamdulillah. Thank you
brother.
>> All right. Cut.