Right now, black culture is being held
captive.
>> So, Nicki Minaj was on stage with Erica
Kirk at Turning Point USA's Amfest,
despite the fact that Charlie Kirk once
said this.
>> Nicki Minaj. Cardi Bi Minaj. Cardi B.
>> Okay. Nicki Minaj is causing dads to
leave the home.
>> Hold on. I don't think that's a good
role model for 18-year-old black girls.
I don't I don't think that songs that
are talking about like glorifying wet
female genitalia is right now black
culture is being held captive by
influences, songs, and role models.
>> I I mean Nicki Minaj, I don't think
that's a good role model for 18-year-old
black girls.
>> I love this woman. She's an amazing
woman. She has a soul and a heart for
the Lord. And words are words, but I
know her heart and it doesn't even
matter.
>> If you didn't know about Nicki Minaj's
brother, back in 2017,
he was actually convicted
uh his 11year-old. If you didn't know,
there was DNA evidence found.
>> Our next guest is speaking out for the
first time on camera regarding the
lawsuit she filed against Nicki Minaj
and her husband, Kenneth Petty.
>> Hey, what's up, Kenneth? How's it going,
bro? Doing all right today?
Hey man, how does it feel being married
to to one of the like greatest rappers
out there, man?
>> So, I don't I don't think I thought
about if I got justice. I didn't I just
knew he did what he did and he went to
jail and I
I had to leave my family. I had to leave
my home.
>> Well, of course she would because her
own husband is a PDF of children and
she's trying to get him a pardon. The
funny thing is Charlie Kirk himself
would be rolling over in his grave if he
knew that his wife just sold out to
Nicki Minaj.
>> Mike Dean, how are you? I'm good,
brother. How are you doing?
>> Alhamdulillah. Good. Good to have you on
the program. Thank you so much for being
here or for having me here, I guess.
>> Yes. Thank you. So, Nicki Minaj, you
what made you decide to report on this?
This is really interesting. in this clip
where Charlie Kirk
>> Minaj Cardi B
>> Okay, Nicki Minaj is causing dads to
leave the home.
>> Hold on. I don't think that's a good
role model for 18-year-old black girls.
I don't.
>> And you rightfully said it. Um he'd be
rolling over his grave. He wasn't
somebody who was a fan of that type of
immorality that she's promoting. And now
they got her as part of the uh Turning
Point USA.
>> Yeah. I mean, ever since Charlie Kirk
was assassinated in uh Utah, the whole
thing of what Turning Point USA was
under his foundation, and I have a lot
of disagreements with it, especially his
anti-Islam rhetoric that uh he made a
living on until the very end where he
started to change his tune a little bit.
Um has really just flipped now that he's
gone. And you see this, you know, kind
of gamification of TPUSA
and the I I like to call it reference it
to the new WWE factor that they're
trying to implement. And um if you look
into Erica Kirk, into her family, into
her history, there's a lot of ties that
keep going back to the state of Israel.
And Charlie Kirk was turning against
that. And he was taking a lot of
backlash. He had major Jewish donors
pulling away from him. And now that he's
out of the way, it's all back on board
with the Zionist Israeli money coming
flooding back in. And then you have
these big events where you have people
like Nicki Minaj. Now listen, I don't
have anything personally against Nicki
Minaj. I simply made that video to point
out, listen, the founder of this
organization was strictly against the
things that Nicki Minaj promotes. And
now you have her as a keynote speaker
sitting there and then she makes this
really odd statement about JD Vance
being an assassin and then she like just
goes completely like robotic silent for
eight seconds and then you have Erica
Kirk trying to clean it up and like
defend her and everything and laugh it
off and it was just extremely weird,
extremely um odd. I I I mean that's the
only thing that you can really say and
then
um that so for me I I just found this
whole story behind Charlie Kirk, this
whole story that is unfolding about
Erica Kirk and TPUSA.
It's very fascinating when you start
looking into it. And I've always been a
curious person where I like to look into
things that I don't understand. I had
never really followed Charlie Kirk
before. Uh I'd heard some of his
anti-Islamic statements which were
disgusting to me. uh especially being
that uh I am a revert Muslim myself even
though I'm a conservative white
American. Um I I just found it it very
odd the whole circumstances between
about his assassination and now what
Erica Kirk is doing with this
organization since his uh being
deceased. So I found that you know
[clears throat] really odd and I decided
to make a clip about it and uh it's you
know it's it's catching a lot of fire
because I'm not the only one that's
making these clips that's talking about
this. It's all over the internet right
now. All of these Freudian slips like
Erica Kirk getting up on stage and and
referring to this guy standing next to
her as grifting, right? Another Freudian
slip. And then she tries to clean it up.
Uh and now you have a Freudian slip here
with Nicki Minaj on stage. And I I find
it really fascinating because on my
Instagram
and Facebook especially, I have a mix of
an audience between conservative white
Americans and liberal Americans. And the
the conservative Americans absolutely
hate anything to do with Nicki Minaj. Uh
they they they find her uh repulsive uh
to their cause, right, which is white
Christian nationalism. And I think that
it's very interesting that Nicki Minaj
would be on TPUSA. Is it like Erica's
trying to destroy Charlie Kirk's
organization or what? Because I
guarantee she she just lost half of
their audience after having her on.
>> Yeah. Really think about that. I mean,
again, we disagree like you said about
Charlie Kirks. I was really close to
having a face-to-face meeting with
Charlie to kind of go over because as he
admitted to me in a in a private phone
conversation that we had that he was
taught to hate Islam. These were his his
words verbatim that Eddie look I was
taught to hate Islam even though he knew
really nothing about Islam and was
trying to get a meeting with him in
person but we could agree there's a lot
of things that we agree with Christians
conservatives and I that's why I get
blown away when many of these
conservatives Christians they'll go on a
rant and they'll be you know they'll
spew this nonsense it's kind of thing
that you hear a lot that those Muslims
they don't accept our way of life they
don't want to assim what What does that
mean actually? What I mean is this your
way of life now Nicki Minaj is is this
what you're talking about with Charlie
Kirk somebody who obviously he was
misguided when it came to Islam but
other things that we would agree with
that you should not promote sexual
immorality we would agree there um
relations outside of marriage uh
feminism right all these things that are
really destroying only fans I mean so
what side Satan worship
>> is a crazy boy who lives in me and he
says the things that I don't want to say
>> the symbolism that goes with it that she
promote all of these things and again we
want the best for Nicki Minaj and all
these people there's always hope until
the last day but you got to ask yourself
what what side of the spectrum are you
on if you're promoting all of the things
that are destroying society
are you on the side of helping humanity
or destroying it so Charlie Kirk I you
what he was what was he upon? Was he
upon these things that her she's got a
philosophy? She's got her way. She's got
her own religion basically that she's
you know following her desires and
calling other people to do the same
thing. So, uh is this the new um new way
that Turningport USA is like bringing
her in and to do what now? To gain more
followers because she has what 100
million plus followers and whatnot. So,
what's what do you think the strategy is
here? What do they what do they cuz
they're using each other. There's that
that's what it's all about at the end of
the day, right? They're trying how they
can how they can benefit from her. What
what do you think at the end and is at
what cost?
>> Well, for Nicki Minaj, the the the
endgame is very simple. She's trying to
get a pardon for her brother and her
husband. Okay.
>> You know, so there there's that. You go
and you suck up to Donald Trump who's
handing out pardons like, you know,
Christmas candy. Let's stop right there.
Who? Tell us. Fill us in cuz I didn't
know about this. So most people don't
know about this. Who's her brother? What
was he charged with? And that makes
sense though. So that's the motive with
her
>> now coming over here trying to use this
way to get close to Trump to pardon her
brother who did what?
>> Both her brother and her husband have
federal charges against them. Um her
brother is uh I believe serving a 25year
sentence for child pdfing. Um, and then
her husband, her husband apparently has
some similar charges against him as
well. So, I haven't looked into the full
details of their case. Uh, it's very
complicated, but um, it it's a the
motive is very clear. You you go and you
start supporting Donald Trump. You you
play him. You call him handsome and a
great leader and all these things
publicly at TPUSA. and then you put in a
pardon request and you get, you know,
your loved ones pardoned from their
crimes. So for for her, it's it's a very
obvious motive because there's no other
gain for her. Nicki Minaj by going to
TPUSA and saying the things that she
said, she just lost half of her fans
that follow her music and her career
because the African-American community
is is not in favor of what TPUSA
preaches.
And so I think it's it's a clear thing
like she's she's making a calculated
strategic uh pivot towards Donald Trump
to to get some favoritism and a pardon
for loved ones. As far as Erica Kirk and
what she's doing, again, I call it the
the the WWE effect of what she's trying
to do now with TPUSA. Um, even the the
the memorial was more like a WWE event
or uh a Republican National Congress
party uh than a memorial to Charlie
Kirk. And now Amfest is just the same
thing. Um, they're just bringing on
anybody and everybody that they can
possibly get to come out and and bring
in big names. But here's the problem
with that. You've got to look at your
base. And I made a video that Erica Kirk
will be the destruction of TPUSA as
Charlie Kirk built it. I don't think
that TPUSA is going to go away, but as
Charlie Kirk built it, it's going to
definitely it it won't exist anymore
because what he was building was a white
nationalist Christian organization. What
she is building is a giant entertainment
um you know, just a sideshow. That's all
it really is. Because everything that
Charlie Kirk preached, even what she was
preaching before he died was mothers
need to stay home, take care of their
children. It's the most important role a
woman can have. And this woman hasn't
been home as far as I can tell in three
months because every single day she's on
a new TV show, she's on a new podcast,
she's doing some events, she's at Mar.
That's uh that's that's Erica Kirk.
>> Erica Kirk, right?
>> Yeah, Erica. That's for doing everything
that that preached against.
>> That's for the audience that doesn't
know. So Eric, who who you're talking
about is Erica Kirk. That's Charlie
Kirk's the widow
>> of wife widow of uh Charlie Kirk who had
who got assassinated. So this is who
you're talking about.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. And so you have a lot of uh what
used to be ardent supporters of Charlie
Kirk and TPUSA are now turning away and
they're going towards Nick Fuentes
because he represents what Charlie Kirk
was representing just more on a bit more
of an extreme manner. And so she's
losing that. So, what she's trying to do
now, Erica, is trying to capture more of
a I I I would say more of a moderate
white Christian nationalist that's okay
having somebody like Nicki Minaj on
there as long as the black people stay
in their place, right? Um, but it to me,
I think it's it's again, it's just a
grift. It's about money. If you look at
after Charlie Kirk was assassinated,
TPUSA had death merch on their website
within 12 hours, which sold out.
>> Uh rough estimates is that they sold
about $8.5 million worth of death merch
of Charlie Kirk uh within the first 72
hours of his death. How did they already
have the merch designed and up on the
website, QR codes, everything ready to
go within just a few hours of him dying?
It because this entire organization is
about making money. So, as soon as he
died, they were like, "How are we going
to make money off of this?" Okay, bam.
Let's make t-shirts. Let's make death
merch. And it sold out, right? Um
they're still not even able to fulfill
all the orders. So to me, I think that
that's that's what TPUSA really is when
it comes to, you know, white Christians
and and why they don't understand a lot
of things. Um, you know, us growing up
in in the United States is
>> you don't get information. Let's take
the the Somali refugee community in
Minnesota and in my home state, we have
a a good uh number of Somali refugees
here. Why are they here? Well, if you
look back at 2004 when George uh Bush
Jr. paid Ethiopia $1.4 billion dollars
to invade Somalia in order to ensure
that Somalia didn't have an Islamic
government. Um that caused a massive
fleeing of millions of people out of
Somalia because the Ethiopian military
is
absolutely horrendous towards its own
Christian population. So imagine what
they're like towards Somali population
of Muslims. They are ancient rivals and
they have uh no allegiance to
international law. And so you have uh
groups like Amnesty International, human
rights organizations which were saying
for from 2004 to 2006 they documented
tens of thousands of Somali women and
girls. No one was spared of mass rapes,
burnings, burning their villages,
stealing all of their animals
completely, making sure that they would
have no way of an economy in the future.
And so they they fled everywhere that
they could go. They fled to Kenya. They
fled to Eratria. They they fled to other
African countries. They fled to the
Middle East. And they fled to the United
States. That's why they're here. We
caused that. So before you complain
about them being here and not
assimulating,
look back at why they're even here,
right? We literally told Ethiopia,
George Bush Jr. told Ethiopia, "I want
you to invade them and I'll give you
$1.4 billion worth of military aid to do
so. And they committed atrocities that
nobody has ever been held accountable
for." So I I think that one of the
biggest issues that we have in the
United States with conservatives and and
I consider myself a conservative though
I'm I'm liberal on other some aspects
like you know I think we should have
Medicare for all. I think we should have
uh free higher education. We're supposed
to be the richest country in the world
yet we we treat our poor like garbage. I
think that's an abomination.
But um the the biggest problem that we
have in the United States with
conservatives is they watch Fox News and
that's it. They get all their
information from there. And Fox News is
is basically not a real news company.
Rubert Murdoch when he founded it, he he
coined the term infotainment.
So it's not news, it's entertainment,
but it has a little bit of information
in it. So he completely changed the game
and now all of the major news networks
do the same thing.
>> So Nicki Minaj, going back to what you
were saying, you believe that this is
why she's with Turning Point USA. So you
would say Nicki Minaj is with Turning
Point USA because she's trying to use
Trump to get a pardon for her husband
and her brother.
>> Yeah, definitely. Wow. I mean, it's
clear. It's clear. I mean, I I I can't
say for sure. Only God knows the
intentions of of another individual, but
if you just if you just use common
logic, what does she have to gain from
this? Because all she's going to lose is
the people who buy her music and listen
to her music. So, she's not gaining
anything that way for her career. So,
it's it's got to be what everybody else
is doing with the Trump administration.
you have a loved one who has a felony,
federal federal felony, you go to Donald
Trump, you pander to him, you pay him
some money, uh you call him really good
names and defend him and he gives you a
pardon. And then if you're the Erica
Kirk, you're saying she's turning this
Turning Point USA into more of a WWE
femania
type where this is just a big um
entertainment platform and going away
from what Charlie Kirk was trying to
establish. He was trying to establish
something that what you were saying is
what we as Muslims we agree with some of
those things you were mentioning about
>> about the roles of um the genders and uh
helping to be living your family living
more of a upright righteous
moral life. All those things we would
agree with, right, as Muslims to get
these women off of only fans, to get rid
of porn. I mean, what other things I
mean when when I mentioned earlier when
they What goes through your mind when
you hear some of these people out there
conservative Christians and they'll
paint Muslims like, oh, they just they
um they they hate our way of life or
they don't want to accept our way of
life. And I'm always thinking, what way
of life are you talking about? What is
it? And these things that that you're
that you mentioned earlier about Charlie
Kirk, what he was trying to accomplish,
the majority of those things we would
agree with, except man worship, except
worshiping a Jewish man. Otherwise,
we're we're we we worship the one who
Jesus worshiped. That's it. And most
Christians, they did a poll, I think it
was like 50% of Christians when they
were asked about Jesus. And
evangelicals, I think it was like 30%,
they believe he was a prophet. They
believe that he was a righteous teacher.
43%
of American evangelicals
don't believe Jesus is divine. Don't
believe that Jesus is God.
>> They're more in line with Islam. They
just don't even know it. [laughter]
>> Yeah. I mean, I grew up in a Pentecostal
church. You have it forcefed down your
throat that uh Jesus is God, that Jesus
is a white man. uh that white men have a
you know a special place in God's eye
for some reason. Um you you just get
filled with this nonsense. And you know
for me it was you know just before 9/11
I had I had been on this journey of
studying religion for about a year and I
had kind of went through Christianity,
Judaism, Hinduism, Taoism, Shinto,
Native American beliefs. Um and Islam
was actually the last one that that I
had come across. um for you know in my
opinion you know Allah gives you uh all
of the falsehoods first so that you can
see what falsehood it is and then you
can determine from when you see the
light it's so clear it's so blatant that
this is the truth and with white
Christians they don't they don't ever do
that right I tried to explain this to my
grandmother uh who's very well-versed in
the Bible and I was like grandma just
just do me a favor just read the English
translation of the Quran just read it
and then if you don't agree with it,
that's fine. That's up to you. I can't
make you become anything you don't want
to be, but just take the opportunity to
read it. And she said, "I will never
read it. I won't I won't read it." Um,
and that's kind of been the case of so
many Christians in the United States
that they're just blindfolded to think
that Islam is evil, that it has a
completely separate religion, completely
separate belief system. And yes, there
are fundamental differences. We don't
worship Jesus. But you know what? Back
in the day, neither did Christians
because the council of Nessia in 325 CE
is when you had the Trinity adopted.
That's 325 years after Jesus. Before
that, there was no mention of a trinity
ever. And even in the modern Bible,
whether you're looking at the Catholic
Bible or you're looking at the
Protestant Bibles from King James or
even the Scoffield,
there is no mention of Jesus ever
saying, "I am God." Right? That's all an
interpretation. and even Protestant uh
the Protestant movement
um from Martin Luther in Germany, right?
This is this was a brand new religion
brought to break away from Catholicism
and the English church. So it all of
these are new iterations and the
American version of it is so
indoctrinated to think that you know the
white race is superior um and that Jesus
is a white man and God and anything that
contradicts that is is like you're
attacking them personally and so they
put up their guard. I I get the comments
all the time of people say what you
support Sharia absolutely I support
Sharia why wouldn't I? No interest on
bank loans. Uh mandatory health care for
all. That's the government's
responsibility. Good roads
infrastructure. That's the government's
responsibility. Omar bin al- Katab on
his deathbed. His main concern is that
he didn't build enough roads for the
Muslims. That's what is that's what he's
think that's the the epitome of a good
leader, right? That they're concerned
about building infrastructure for those
that come after them. So yeah, I I would
I would be all for Sharia in the United
States. And we already have
>> the ten commandments. The ten
commandments. This is this is law. The
Sharia of Moses,
>> Jesus,
>> the same thing.
>> Same is law. This is the God's law.
That's it.
>> Yeah.
>> Sharia even if you even look at Sharia,
Sharia is a newfound term in Islamic
history. So it wasn't ever actually
mentioned by the prophet Muhammad peace
be upon him. It was scholars that came
up with this term. And literally it
means the way to the watering hole and
water is life. Right? So the way of
Islamic law and principles is the
Sharia. So when people say Sharia, they
don't understand. They they think it's
like the Taliban and women are wearing
burkas and all of this. You know, my
wife wears hijab. My daughters wear
hijab every time they leave the house.
That's their they're like a
wholehearted. They are into that. Like
they nobody is forcing them to do it.
They want that for a couple of different
reasons. One, they they want to show
their their dedication to God. Number
two, they don't want dudes looking at
them uh and and you know, I wouldn't
want a wife who wants to go out there
and show her cleavage and her butt and
everything else. Why would I want other
men to see my most prized and and
beautiful gift from God? Why would I
want anybody else to share that? I'm
greedy. No, you're not looking at that.
That's mine, right? you can go get
yours, but that one's mine.
>> And so, you know, I I think that when
you look at a lot of white Christian
conservative men in the United States,
they want the same thing as Muslim men.
They want the same thing.
>> It's it's we want what you have, but
we're Christians, so we have to put you
down, even though we want the exact same
thing. And now we can't say that because
we got Nicki Minaj Minaj and she's uh
telling our wives now to take off all
the clothes again. So you're just like
working against yourselves.
>> I mean even if you look at how Nicki
Minaj came out onto the stage, she's
wearing a miniskirt
onto TPUSA, a conservative white
nationalist Christian organization.
>> Just destroyed all of Charlie Kirk's
works. That's it.
for his he would be he would be furious
if he was on the stage. He'd be like,
"What are you doing? Get her off the
stage." No.
>> Yeah. Erica Kirk destroyed Charlie
Kirk's
>> vision now. She's destroying it bit by
bit. Unbelievable. What did you think
also of um when you had Tucker Carlson?
I mean, this person that's a true
patriot. That's somebody who wants good
for his country, good for just humanity.
And you see him coming on and he's like,
"Why are we hating all these Muslims?
How many millions of Muslims?" And then
you got Ben Shapiro coming on and what
what did you think about uh Tucker
Carlson's talk? Did you see that?
>> Attacking millions of Americans because
they're Muslims.
>> It's disgusting.
>> The Turning Point. I was surprised they
still they brought him on.
>> I was too. Uh, I know that there's a lot
of uh of push back against having guys
like Tucker on, but uh at the same time,
like I said, Erica is trying to turn
this into more of an entertainment uh
thing than what Charlie Kirk was trying
to do because the money is in the
entertainment. It's not in political
change. And um I think, you know, I
never I never would have thought I would
ever agree with Tucker Carlson on
anything when he was on Fox. He was a
huge proponent of anti-Islamism.
>> But you know what? Even Megan Kelly came
out and said when she was at Fox, she
was told to promote Israel and hate
Muslims and there is no ifs, ands, or
buts about it. Like have a different
opinion.
>> That was Megan Kelly.
>> Yeah, that was Megan Kelly.
>> She just said that the other day.
>> I didn't know I didn't I didn't know
that. Wow. So, this is a new development
also.
>> Yeah.
>> Is that Is she shifting a little bit
also now? Is she coming towards speaking
more than like Tucker is? Yeah.
>> Megan Kelly.
>> Uh she I I think with with
>> So repeat that again. You're saying
Megan Kelly, she said that she was also
pushed to push Islam hate.
>> Yep.
>> Wow.
>> You will support Israel and you will uh
speak negatively of Arabs and Muslims.
There is no
that's your job. That's the op that
Tucker Carlson was talking about and re
and um you know this Ryan Griffin report
that talks about this uh this country
trying to get their reputation back and
they got this whole big marketing
company and they said look what happened
in Huzza it's just you you it's you
cannot repair it but you got to go ahead
and get the attention off you and now
start to divert it towards the Muslims
all of this you you heard of that?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So that's
>> that the billion dollar hate industry.
That's what's what's causing this. All
the money's being
>> the thing is
>> that it's not even it's not even just to
that extent. It's so much deeper. I mean
you have the the head of uh a Jewish
lobbyist group um that puts out the
anti-semite of the year award. Um, we
call it a ward now because it's like if
you're going to just put anti-semitism
on anybody who criticizes a genocide,
then I guess we're all just anti-semitic
because 70% of the United States is
against this genocide. So, I guess
America's just now an anti-semite
country. But, um, she came out and said
that, you know, we're we're changing
laws. We've had people arrested in
Florida. We've had people arrested in
Texas, New York, California, and it's
only going to increase for
anti-semitism. So, um, now they're
regulating free speech, right? And so,
the the it's not just about trying to
get the fake Christians like Jake Lang,
this dude is a Jewish guy, he's a proud
Jewish guy who is now trying to claim
that he is a Christian crusader, blah
blah blah. We all know that like he's
not fooling anybody. This is why even
when he goes and he does these
provocative protests and stuff, nobody
shows up to support him. He has like 10
people there, right? If you were really
like if Nick Fuentes were to show up at
a protest, he would get thousands of
people there. If Charlie Kirk were still
alive and he showed up to do an
anti-Islam protest, he'd probably get
hundreds of thousands of people there.
Jake Lang is a complete joke. Everybody
knows he's a joke and nobody actually
supports him. Uh except for the trolls
on Facebook. That's about it. But those
guys aren't going to actually get in
their car, drive, waste their gas, pay
for a motel to go and support him
because he's he's a a joke. But you have
those guys, but the more nefarious ones
is, you know, you have CBS now in in
fully in the hands of uh that that lady
um whatever Weiss um and she's
literally gotten rid of everywhere.
She's turning it into Fox News. So now,
uh, CBS is going to be like Fox News.
Tik Tok is going to be like Fox News
>> to where you're not allowed to speak
about anybody, uh, uh, that resonates
with Israel whatsoever. And so I I make
videos and I and maybe it's not the most
appropriate way of doing it, but I've
made videos that have gone ultraviral on
Tik Tok and Instagram, millions of
views, and I start out by a true story
of a Christian doing something horrible
to Muslims, but I change the narrative.
So instead of starting out, a Christian
did XYZ to these Muslims, I say,
breaking news. We have an Islamic
extremist just did yada yada yada to a
Christian. Except that's not actually
what happened. Here's the real story of
what happened. A Christian nun stabbed
herself and then blamed Muslims trying
to start a anti-Muslim riot in um her
country and
>> and that actually happened. That
actually happened.
>> That actually happened. Yeah. So, it's
true stories, but I changed the
narrative for the hook because on TikTok
you can do that. You can you can slander
and hate speech Muslims all day long and
you will not get a violation on Tik Tok.
You will not get a violation on Facebook
or Meta. You will not get a violation or
a face a violation on YouTube. But if
you say if you start out the story with
Christians attack Muslims and here's
what happened. I've had it happen to me
to where I've gotten hate speech
violations and my videos taken down. So
it's a strategy to where the first 10
seconds of the algorithm is going to
look and like, okay, they're hating on
Muslims. Cool. Let's boost this this
video.
>> But then people see that after a few
seconds, oh wait,
>> no, he he's talking about the Christian
nun who blamed Muslims and it was all
set up or the the Christian pastor who
brought in AR-15 to church and is
telling Christians to go out there and
fight evil and uh uh warrior spirit and
all this other stuff. Imagine if a
Muslim had did that. If any man in
America had showed up with a a AR-15
talking about we have to subjugate all
the Christians in America, you would
have every police officer and the FBI
arresting everyone in the mosque within
four minutes. What do you think would
have happened if this uh Jacob Lang if
he showed up at a synagogue
>> with a decapitate decapitated pig's head
with some version abbreviated of the
Talmud in the pig's mouth talking about
we're going to do because that's what he
was talking about get out of America in
his speech or we're going to do the
Crusades. He even mentioned the Vlad the
Impaler the Impaler. You know who that
was in history?
>> Yep.
>> Yeah. Imagine he if he referenced Hitler
and he was standing in front of a
synagogue doing what he exactly what he
just did at a mosque. What do you think
would have happened? He'd be in jail
just like the the lady from the uh
protecting Jewish whatever organization
that's given the anti-semite award. Um
she she bragged about having people
arrested in New York, Texas, Florida,
California. He would be arrested for
sure. He he'd be facing hate crime
charges.
>> Wow.
Wow. That's the the the huge hypocrisy.
Before we conclude, tell me now, you
mentioned also something about the Hodge
Hodge Podge Twins.
>> The Hodge Twins. Hodge Twins. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I mean, uh, there's a lot of
things I I And in my video about them, I
like the Hodge Twins. I've I've been
fans of theirs for a long time. Um, I
know they they they talk about
Christianity and stuff, but they are
really interesting to watch. They're
funny guys. Um, there's a lot of stuff
that they talk about that I disagree
with, but I think that if you just
unless somebody is a blatant
uh fake and a fraud like a Jake Lang, I
think that we can we can watch and we
can agree and disagree with other
people. So, where I disagree with uh the
Haj twins is they try so hard to appease
their white nationalist base and to me
it's like they're lowering themselves.
They don't have to do it. They're so
naturally charismatic and funny that
they would have a huge show without that
base. So, they don't have to pander to
these people. But at the same time, I
like the fact that sometimes like they
throw these little jabs at the white
MAGA base, but the white MAGA base is
too stupid to figure out that they're
actually making fun of them. But yeah, I
I think that um the Haj twins, they have
a huge show. I would love to go on their
show and and and debate some stuff with
them at some point in the future. Um,
but I I just it it disgusts me that they
have to pander to those people who would
just rather see them swinging from a
tree than anything else. And it it's
kind of bad because again, they they're
just really fun to watch. They're very
entertaining. I love it when they start
banging on each other because they're
brothers. Uh,
but man, I wish they would just stop
trying to promote the white nationalism
stuff because I don't know if you guys
have looked in the mirror. You're not
white and those guys don't care about
you.
>> Do you think uh that's why they've
refused to have or haven't up until now
this educated Muslim on the program even
though they've brought many Islam
haters, but they've never actually had a
Muslim and they've been invited. I've
invited them on the program. Many people
asked me to invite them. I've invited
them and we've uh called them to invite
a Muslim on to come on and have a
discussion. Is that what do you think?
Why why do you think they haven't done
that so far? I I think that they're
looking at it from a monetary issue. So
if they start doing that, they're going
to lose a big portion of their base
that's going to leave them and that's
their money maker, right? So the way not
only do they get paid from, you know,
social media like YouTube, etc. Um, but
they have an a store where people buy
their merch and the majority 99% of the
people that buy their merch are white
nationalist Christians. And if you start
bringing Muslims on and you start to
like, yeah, you know, we we actually
have a lot in common and we probably
shouldn't hate you. Even though they've
they've made that statement a few times
on their show, when they had Nick
Fuentes on, he talked about it a little
bit and they they kind of agreed that,
yeah, we have more in common with
Muslims than we do with uh Zionist Jews,
for sure. But I think that they're
probably just looking at it like, man,
how much money would this cost us in in
lost revenue of white nationalists who
buy our our ridiculous merch? Um,
I think it's just a monetary issue. I
don't think that they're opposed to it
religiously because honestly I don't
think these guys are super religious to
begin with. They're comedians.
You think this is going to shift now?
Have you noticed you're somebody who
also uses the X? Have you noticed this
huge huge? It's like it's not organic.
It's just I don't know if there's a lot
of bots also and there's a big push now.
I don't I've like never before this hate
against Islam and Muslims. this
fear-mongering. It's constant. It just
it just keeps like money's being pushed
and to spread this hate. Have you
noticed it? And do you is this like a
last ditch effort? And do you see the
tide turning that now more people when
they do really investigate Islam?
Submission to the creator, not the
creation. Many are drawn to it. Many see
that it makes sense. What we're missing
here, we got it in Islam. It's there. It
just the way it's been packaged and
presented. It's actually some distorted
way that we wouldn't even agree with. We
would be scared of the same thing. They
got some boogeyman version of Islam. But
when they sit with yourself, someone
like you. They sit with an American.
They're seeing too. We're not We're not
Arabs. We're Americans here. Uh
European. I'm from Bosnia. My parents
are from B. My family's from Bosnia. So
we got a European American. We're here
practicing submission to the creator,
not the creation. You know, and if we
sit and talk, I'm sure like you talk to
many conservatives, they would agree
with they they'd actually probably agree
with us more than than the whole uh
TPSUSA Nicki Minaj fiasco. So, do you
see this turning? Are you seeing the
push with the anti-Islam hat? How how
long do you keep what do you what do you
see in your foresight happening?
Well, when it comes to X, it's a
cesspool of bots. uh that's been exposed
when they opened up the geo tagging and
then they hurried up and shut it off um
because they realized that you know over
half of these so-called conservative
accounts are originating in you know
Africa and Russia and Israel.
>> Um and so that got exposed. So I don't
listen to any of that nonsense on on X.
I don't even actually post on X too
much. I just kind of go there for
picking up videos and ideas and stuff.
Um, but when it comes to the fact that
you're seeing so much anti-Islam hate
right now being pushed out there by
these social media apps, well, look at
who owns the social media apps and it'll
tell you everything you need to know.
And when you have Netanyahu coming out
with a group of influencers saying that
social media is the the biggest battle
that that we need to fight to win right
now and we need to take over Tik Tok and
we already have a friend in Elon Musk. I
mean, they're basically throwing it in
our face. And now Israel has I I believe
it's like a $1.3 billion budget for
their Hosbara program to send out, you
know, all of this this nonsense, pay
these fake influencers, etc. Um,
so I think that when you look at it from
that aspect,
you know, you're losing the war when you
have to start spending billions of
dollars to pay people to support you.
And a Gallup poll just came out. People
under 30 in the United States, only 17%
support Israel.
That has never happened since the
induction of that country. Right? And so
now Israel is looking at it and they've
even said, "Listen, if we lose America,
we need to pivot to India. It's the next
rising superpower." And they're already
that they have the Indian government in
their pocket. Um, and so they've lost
American youth, I think, forever. I
don't I don't think any of the, you
know, 83%
of Americans under 30 will ever go back
to supporting Israel or will ever
support Israel in the future. because
what has happened in Gaza has been, you
know, implanted into their memory
forever, right? And how could how could
you ever support Nazi Germany, right?
Unless you're just a stupid white
supremacist, but the vast majority of
the world will never ever look back and
be like, "Yeah, I really support Nazi
Germany. That was a great idea." Like,
so the the youth is gone. They've lost
them. the only the only hold out that
they have right now left is the baby
boomers because again they're stuck in
their ways. You know, they're not going
to change. They're going to continue to
support Israel forever because that's
what their uh Protestant pastor told
them to do. And you know, again, you
have a thousand pastors brought over to
Israel last month uh at Israel's on
Israel's dime, put them up in fivestar
hotels and gave them the whole thing.
made them made them even sign an
agreement that if they go back to the
United States and and support Israel in
their churches that they'll get
donations from their American uh
organizations. And now they've uh
they're signing up 10,000 more Christian
preachers.
>> Wow.
>> In 2026.
So that's desperation to me. Um whenever
you have to do that, you know that
you've lost. It's like your last gasp.
But the youth, look at mom Donnie in New
York. I don't agree with mom Donniey's
policies, a lot of them. But everybody
was saying that New York would never
elect a Muslim, a practicing Muslim, as
mayor of New York City after 911. Well,
the youth showed up in droves and said,
"You're wrong." So, imagine what the
midterms are going to look like. Imagine
what 2028's going to look like.
>> Are you familiar with uh the con man
Scoffield and the uh
>> Scoffield Bible?
>> Yes. Are you familiar with that?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. And and this is usually the people
who will go down there, the thousands
who are now you're talking about this is
because of that programming, right?
Because this this Gfield Bible and how
this was promoted and I think um
Christians believing, you know, whoever
blesses thee is blessed and whoever
curses thee is cursed. is like the go-to
verse because Cyrus Scoffield, the
conman fraud who was in jail, they the
Zionists ended up pushing and promoting
his work millions of copies for free and
to the churches and to universities and
now they've been conned into this this
um uh interpretation of these verses
pointing it to this country. But uh I
think many and many feel now that it's a
part of their their belief that they
have to support this. But when this gets
brought to their attention and now
they're they realize that this is
actually a con. This was not really for
1800 years this had nothing to do with
Christianity. This is something that's
made up. Uh I think this is very
important that Christians actually they
discover this and they they end up um
realizing that this is not part of their
faith to support this um evil that's
happening.
And I would say like, you know, the the
biggest failure in my opinion as to why
we have so much Islamic hatred in the
United States is a lack of the Muslim
American community to do two things. And
I think that if the MuslimAmerican
community would implement these two
things, within 10 years, the entire
narrative changes. Number one, we need
to invest in Muslim owned media. Period.
Um, why are we allowing the narrative to
be spoken by enemies of Islam? Why are
we allowing people who want to sow
hatred and division within the United
States to own the narrative? We have
more money in the United States as a
Muslim community than the Jewish
Americans have because we have
overwhelmingly
uh doctors and lawyers and entrepreneurs
by the millions in the United States.
and a lot of them have ties back to the
Gulf Arab states as well where they can
draw in more investment. Um, and the,
you know, we haven't done that to a huge
degree. I mean, you you now have it with
Zateo. Um, but I have some issues with
Zato because they push a lot of uh
left-wing stuff that that I don't agree
with, but they do really good in indepth
journalism. So, I like that about them.
what you've been doing for years now um
has been uh amazing and has had a huge
impact. So uh may Allah bless you for
your efforts and your team.
>> I mean thank you.
>> Oh we need more of it. And then the
second thing is um you know it doesn't
mean well the back to the first thing it
doesn't mean that you have to go out and
start a media company. We went out and
started a media company. I ch I shut
down my construction company and we went
full-fledged into media and started this
thing. Um because I I believe what I
what I preach. Muslims need to own the
media. We're not doing it. Okay, I'm
going to close my construction company
and I'm going to do it. And so that's
what we're doing. It doesn't mean that
you have to do that. But if you know of
Muslim media, support it. Watch the
videos, share the videos. If they have
donations, give donations. If they have
merch, buy their merch. helps to grow
that out economically because um a lot
of the things that Muslim uh social
media influencers do, it doesn't get out
there and it doesn't get monetized and
you're not going to get corporate
sponsors for it. So, it's got to be kind
of crowdsource funded. The second thing
that Muslims have failed to do um that
I've learned from living in a Mormon
state for a couple of decades now is we
don't have organized dawa. We have dies
out there. We have brothers and even
some sisters who are going out on the
streets and they're doing dawa and it's
amazing work. But we have like millions
of Muslims in the United States and
maybe a couple of hundred dies out
there. [laughter] That makes no sense,
right? So what the Mormons do in in the
Mormon state that I live in, they have
organized dawa for their religion. So,
when you turn 18, you're expected that
you're going to go on a two-year mission
before you even go to college. Now, you
can delay that and whatever. And then
they have once you become a senior
citizen um and you've retired, now you
do another mission. So, they do in their
lifetime typically they do two missions.
Once when they're young and once when
they're older and it's very organized
and and it's worldwide. Why aren't the
Muslims doing that? Why don't we have an
organization that organizes
youth that want to go out and do dawa,
right? Um,
if we do these two things, I guarantee
you in the next 10 years, uh, and I'm
not saying the Muslims are going to take
over America or anything like the the
white nationalists and the Zos put out
there, but what we would have is so many
millions, tens of millions, if not over
a hundred million Americans who are not
Muslims saying, "You're not going to
attack the Muslims. They're good people.
They're great people. I know Muslims.
I've met them. I've sat with them. I've
had lunch with them. They're they're my
neighbors that their kids have come and
and talked to me about Islam, right? All
of these things. And I love, you know,
uh the Dean Show and I love Daily Rumble
and I love Zateo and I I get my
information from these guys. If we just
do that instead of telling our kids, you
have to just be a doctor, you have to do
this, you have to do that. How about we
put Islam first and then go and put the
dunya, right? Go do a mission for six
months even. You don't even have to go
to the two-year mission of the Mormons.
Just do six months where you're going to
knock on doors, set up tables, and
you're going to talk about Islam and
Muslims in America.
>> And that's uh Mike Dean from Daily
Rumble. Check them out. Good having you
on the program, brother.
>> Thank you, brother. It's an honor to be
here. Like I said, uh been a huge fan of
yours for years. Keep up the good work,
bro.
>> Thank you, brother. Alhamdulillah.
Inshallah, we'll meet up again.
>> Islam has changed, William, in the most
amazing ways. Most amazing ways. I'm I'm
devastated by what I've seen here. I'm
absolutely devastated. And thank you for
hosting this. Thank you for doing this.
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