unto you you will not find a group of
people who are more inclined toward peace peace
with their creat peace with
themselves and peace with the rest of
humanity and those are the muslim on who
consciously ch to submit to the one of
the and earth creat of jesus mos no and
the last and final man peace be upon now hot
in the
new there are some events that are unfolding
and we are going to be talking about with my
next guest sal may the peace, mercy, blessings and
blessings of God be upon you and
with
us
show happ to be with you and honored and
what i really like about this show is
that very popular in the us where i liv
the best years of my life when i served asc to
us tell us
now all over the new and we are sad to see a
lot of these things unfolding like this
because it's it's not good for the muslims
it's not good for anyone what's
happening here in the us is in time square
someone try to set off a bomb to
hurt people so we want to the experts
and cnn fox new
People
show any
confusion what islam have about filling
up a car with explos and trying to blow up
innocent people have you heard about
this st talk i heard about that st yes yes
actually i heard about that st and
trou me
andl non
isam would never j under any
circumstances and the problem brother
happ
people
islamic con
like i
the
because he was thinking
do isam and was thinking
pring actually the concept
jif for both muslims and non
exp was in frf few years ag some
presentations on islam in the biggest
book fair in the world which is frankfurt
book fair and you know this is
a very crowded book fa and every at 5m
when the book
fair closing
down can t of people are coming out
the and is also r hour gery very
frustrating you toit for the metro or
the train to take you home for about
half an hour and the trains that come
when the doors are open you can't find a
place to step in so there was a german
journal waiting next to
me
and he told me he approached me And he said you would like
me to tell you a secret
said what he said if you want to find a place
on the next train when the op sh
loud say ak some train and i actually
you know as muslim the told me when you
are hared by ignorant harer just say peace
which means don't don't know
respond to him and and be peaceful so i
just ignored him we're sorry just so even
at that time we're supposed to say peace
yes of course resp
Allah, Glory be to Allah, there is no god
but utter
nasty words just
be pleas
arabic please tell us what you that's that
's i'm sorry i'm sorry it's actually
the remem of allah way to communicate
with god by keeping him in all the
time like saying glory be to god uh god
is
greater there is no god except him allah
the only one true god and so on so if
you are all the time engaged in the
remembrance of god with your tong how
come the same tong you know utters may
other bad mind words or nasty
st all all so actually patiently towards
him and then he approached me he said
would you like me to tell you another
secret he's full of secrets now yeah
actually he's german and we in germany
and in the beginning i thought that his
secrets would be like how we can get a train
home at that time when it's
crowded like that and i thought that he
will tell me that we can walk to a
further station and take the train from
there something but i find i found him
telling me that when the train comes and
the do open and we don't find a place to
step in shout loud and say
j you will probably be the only one on
the train wow so i said look young
man all muslims in the world love this
word so much and he said what i only 15%
because people are in the west 15% of
muslims are fanatics
pr
said our boys
and with r
apple and bl eyes and
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name my
name connotation way and then i come come with
me and i'll explain to you
what is jih so the problem is when
people think that jihad equals Terrorism
actually it doesn't mean exactly the
oppos jih that's what i was going to ask
you next if you can define because many
people have the word jihad when they
hear it they feel it equals terror
like take
okay let me tell weine any arabic
word any isam we have define it
linguistically and
tic word from the ro of the
word inage
means can is spirit j
which is a non violent
struggling
against to live a life of virtue you
struggle against your ego to be a better
person to wake up
at in the morning and wash face and feet
and to while people are bed not eas sp
charity without
showing that's not easy to do such a
thing with sincerity this needs jihad
some muslims even went to the extent
that even the po people themselves did
not know who is sending them the money
there is a
very lovely about this in the Islamic
history that the po people of used to receive
food
and provision them under the darkness
of the and in the morning when they open the do they find it
and they never knew who was doing so
he died and the
provisions ceas to come and that was
the great grand prop
m ex
can someone lives in the neighbor money the giv sake sake
even is not easy second
meaning is
verb you speak against evil
and in
some people say the truth find ja
islam point do tell
people in
order enour
up tru
even die die speak
the truth he also said that the
best mar is the one who was killed by a
tyrant for criticizing his
third tyr actually meaning this actually
means also that all these movements you
know who speak against tyr they are
practicing a form of jihad all those
anti movements and all those you know
people which
whole by the jce
now
is that you go out killing people who are
not of your faith
say
non
all misconception actually actually this
kind of
never
against from are
chapter not against people because of they
are from a faith and get you the let let
me sc i'm sitting at home my
business glorifying the creator with my
family i'm eating a hal kentucky fried
chicken and somebody bu down the door or
they sneak in through the window And
they try to harm me and my family be musl
other than those I have
sure of isal right and given to you by
the Islamic legislation to but what i
mean here is even combat itself there is
a verse Quran in chapter number 49 number
that says and two groups among the
believer to fight then recon between
them both but if one of them rebels
against the other me
are they are
agress back
form of jih which is causing
all controversial
controversies and i believe this is
because people don’t understand that
it’s not done prophet muhammad pe be
upon him clearly mentioned in his and
means the traditions of prophet muhammad
since you have a lot
of non muslim listeners he
men the combat call isam
number one
number in is we have r among
no one can be except a combat
no one can bear [Music
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it
can this teris teroris
kill
inocent which terrorism is
noted in 2005 150 monarch and presidents
they orders in a summit in the united nations
two days and they supposed to terrorism
for us because theg cri
anding terrorism guess noted until
today so let's try to define it together
some people would say that terrorism is
killing civilians which is not accurate
because what if someone targeted civilians
and he harmed them but not one
of them died so he did not kill still it is terrorism
so more accurate say not killing
because this will apply
also if no dies saying
civilian is also not
accurate because some civilians can be
legitimate targets in war sometimes and
those are the armed civilians called mila
so in some wars there were mila who
are here involved they can be legitimate
tets sometimes in some wars so saying non combat targeting is
more accurate
but what if someone kills his wife he targeted
non combat since there is no political
agenda involved then this is
just a crime but not
terrorism and so we can say that define terrorism
according to academia
and here i would like to mention dr
robert i entered into
some
we ter
non
terror in 200 i think did not fail teroris
def may half of them be in
jail targeting non combat to push a
political agenda this applies on states
this applies on
organizations doble
Hiroshima Zaki my brother
world war 2 brother
more
50,000 civ german civilians who died in
the bing of dresden this is also not
justified even though even hitler
was doing the nasty things in the world
we should not involve
civili cally dead
in battlefield the war even dis by
culture the third is historically muslims
never killed civilians and that
was proven yes this this is actually
proven by hollywood two years ago or
years ago in the famous
movie that they produced called the
kingdom of heaven
talking about salah sal the muslim king
who de the crusaders and back jerusalem
muslim the end of the after putting
jerusalem for a mon he spoke to damian who
is the leader of the crusaders in
the negotiations and he told him what are
you waiting for surrender the ins
under more than said
how can we surrender the and you us
allat so Saladin said no won kill any him
yes and the crusader told the muslim
king here are you bluffing me won you
kill anyone with all what we did 90
years ag because 9 years before that day when
the crusaders took over jerusalem
they killed every single civan ins
killed
ked his say that
the blood was flowing in the of
jerusalem up to these w
religions not say historically said i not those ofans musl do not kill
even and this is here brings us here to
the argument
of because i debated by the way with
seven of those
people in a european country and who did
you
with people who are symp
with me came and
when
the security to take them out i
said no way please leave them because i have to
debate with them here in front
of everyone and if they pro to be right
i will give them the microphone and they
will
continue and that was when i said no one
can be killed accept
said there is in songs
inm acc we
can and inoc arent arent
and said but did not only kill our
c they also raped our women in
bia think that actually allow resp them the
you har
the veres allowing you to harm them the
same way i said no we don't do that
because actually rape is an illegal
sexual act i said therefore the verse is not
general this verse equals the verse
in the bible in the old testament which
also exists in the quran that says an
eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth
which means that if someone blows up one
eye for you you cannot blow up both his
eyes just one eye if someone destroys
one tooth for you you cannot destroy his
32 teeth that's the bible
yes that's in the bible i don't rec
chapter now and it's also in the quran i
also don't the chapter also but the same
verse is in the quran so we don't turn
the other cheek so someone punches me in
my left cheek i can hit back in the left
cheek but it's better to forgive well
let's let's deal with this after i
finish this argument because this is
also i have also to talk about
this is about the about forgiveness but
let first finish this arum with allen
means you do the amount of
you cann kill even enemy or you would be like
them because the
muslims clearly when they act like non muslims
at times you know when they act like like
times of war st like that because
in war people say let's do whatever we
can just to win the war and let's put
morality aside isam never put moral
asam clear propet
the muslims cried when he found a woman dead
in the battlefield one day and he said
this one should not have been killed
so that was clear
also addressing the one that you
know the verse in the bible that you
mention
about the
other because actually
school iar years catholic school and i
had in my school here in egypt we did
not have a mk or even a place to pray
but we had a church in our school a huge church
so i was around with christians
all the time and i listened a lot to
christian church leaders and all the
time my christian friends were always
wondering and they were always confused
by two verses in the bible
the first one in the old testament
which people like to call it the law of
moses sometimes or the law of revenge it
says an eye for an eye and a tooth for a
tooth and The second one is in the new
testament which people like to call it
the concept of forgiveness of jesus
which is if you are slapped on the right cheek
then turn your left cheek to the
one who sl you and the christian my christian
friends always ask chur
the which one should because those
two verses
are contradicting with each other and
the answer that i always heard is we are christians
and the new testament abated
the old testament so we are actually
turning the left cheek even though this
we have never seen a christian theek
actually christian countries today are
only sing people on both cheeks any
reas but let's focus on this they are
contradicting those two verses and i say not
and exp them i cann exp from the Quran
in chapter number 42
mentioned three verses 41 42 and 43
that are explaining both concepts are
notting first number
41 in chapter number2 it
says and indeed whoever takes renge
after he has suffered wrong against such
there is no blame which means that no
one can blame someone who decides to
apply the verse an ey for an eye and a
tooth for a tooth which people call the
law of moses in the old test who is the
blame then the second ver the next
verifies
Qur’an bl against
those with wrong doing transgress beyond
bounds which means that the blame is on
the oppressors but what does allah the
one true god recommend
the verse next says and
whoever shows patience and forgiveness
that would truly be recommended by allah
so this means that allah doesn’t force
you to
just is the absolute justice so we can say that
all people are forced to to to turn
the other cheek excuse me then
there is no difference between the good
and the bad between the obedient and the
more obedient and the most obedient here
you know if you look at fingers in one
hand don't have two fingers similar to
each other why do you think that God
will deal with us as if we are just
similar to each other some of us can forgive
and some of us may not be able to forgive
some harm can be very deep that
people cann forgive so here God
is saying there is no blame on you if
you apply the first verse an eye for an
eye and tooth for a tooth but i recom
that you turn the other so this is the is
here i exp to them the bible from
some takes can take own ah
some wrong change hand are unable
that against
are which means that there is aent who
can kill you maybe okay then feel bad
about it in your heart but let know that
this is the weakest form of faith which
means that you have to change the wrong
whenever you can which means if you are
also authorized to change it if you're
not authorized to change what you see
wrong with your hands then don't do that
but speak against it
this is no one cana that he is the
this is cri
taking
the rer while he is still there you can take
of the rer law there enfor do that
all limited number number two never ever my brother Islam
do all of war
neic one
day before the before the battle of
which was the first battle between the
Muslim
15 years and the night before that
battle very desperate for any information
about the army of the
enemy i can say
inell
M Ali Bani Talib made me happy
They captured two sold from the
army of qu and they them to the camp of
the muslims and then they started beating
them up to get information about
the
army and prophet muhammad was praying so
he was troubled with what they were
doing and he ended his prayer and he
said you are torturing them and they are
telling you nothing but lies and he said come here you both
of you take something to
drink dr he
said i have one you answer out he
said what the boys are very patriotic
and they don't want to disclose any
information about the army he said how
many cam do you slaughter every
day and they look at each other and they they
thought that a very silly question there is
no problem to answer this question
and get out so they said sometimes we sl
n camels and sometimes we 10 camels
and the prophet looked at the comp and
he said the arm is between 900 1000
becuse the cel
feeds caned people so
this leads the leader the role mod
of every investigator don't use t
number one immoral number
two that get is
unr and there was also another film
also produced in Hollywood called rendition
that was two years ago about
an American from an egyptian descent who
immigrated to the us in the age of
14 and after 91 they suspected that he
has ties to terrorism so the
fbi took him from the airport on his way back
from cape town or something and
people they him nation
and that was in the presence of
the main in the film he a CIA
agent who worked in the embassy of the
us in this country and i think the act was orlando blom
if i can remember and
the arab
officers the whole
not all
all them are
arabic and they asked him why did he do so
he
said and then the cia agent took these
names and he goled the names he found
that those are the
members of the soccer team of egypt
in the world cup the year this boy left
egypt and came to the us when he was
young and then he he mak
year
so people they
li just to get out just to stop the
torture and that's prophet muhammad said
14 centuries ag you are torturing them
and they are telling you nothing
but not all we covered
now me struggle
non
andar and people should be very
attentive because you're coming to the
muslim to learn about Islam and that's
the right thing to do you don't want to
go to hitler to learn about christianity
you want to come to the muslims and
those who are the scholars of Islam to
learn about Islam so now we talked about
the prisoners of war you don't torture
them people are getting a different
light a different perspective now and i
think some of the fear is getting to get
eradicated it's going away we have a
few more points that we cover we have to do part
okay tell us quickly tell us what
are some of these other points before i get
into a few more points that i want
you to cover what was the
next
let's because actually we are talking
and we taking things like point by point
i don't want also to skip which is
evening of war pic
when one of his companions was
walking two prisoners of war and they
saw them dead before they
bual I broke down and they cried and
the prophet blamed him and he said don't you have mercy
in your heart could
let me tell you something the qur is
that among
the characteristics that you should have
in your heart in order to qualify for
going to paradise is to be nice and kind
to a prisoner of
war allah says in the quran about those
who enter paradise they are those whom
out of their love to allah they um they
feed the oran the needy and the prisoner
of war can you imagine this someone who
came a day ag to kill me
and kill my wife and rap my children and take my land
the is telling me if you
want to go to paradise you have to be kind
to this man and this brings us back
to the issue of spiritual jihad because
that's not easy to do soet
us his prophetic way of
and the muss every time pray times
every
bring milk
those they never seen in any b after
that against mus because allen
Imam Ali my son Talib
Muhammad Muhammad
the enem and the man was
him finally him and the man sword was broken his back
fighting since an hour i was about to
kill you twice and now when you conquer
me don't kill me he said look i d on't
hate you i was fighting because i am performing jad
which means i'm trying to establish
justice here i'm trying to get
back my home in my money that you took
me when at my face i felt something against
you in my heart something
personal and at this point i cannot kill
you wow that's w
those are the examples those are the
examples not only for us for
every combatant in this world for the
american soldiers for the afghani soldiers
for the egyptian soldiers
people should really look very carefully
at these stories and learn and learn
us go ahad sh i'm sorry i was about to mention
quickly the orders of the rest of the combat
of prophet muhammad that are
mentioned in his traditions go ahead please go
ahad we mention number one never kill innocent people number two never torture
prisoners of war neither
physically nor psychologically also never kill animals never destroy crops
he even said an amazing tradition that i
couldn't believe myself when i found it he
said never disturb the
some this is explaining to you that those
people who going out to perform
jihad they were not like clay people
savages they were not like the crusaders
in the first crusade who came through
eastern europe and they red and loed and
put cities ae in hungary and in bulgaria
which chran countries the chr coming in
this army from germany from spain and
from france they loed plundered raped
even chran cities no here the muslims
who are involved in the army that is
going to somewhere to establish justice
are disciplined those are by day
time by and
and this is for jce is for jti only
not all commit ag iset Mohamed teach teach
are not allowing muss destruct
of course the prophet never
said infrastructures but we are not
allowed to poison
wells and poisoning the well a
distruction for the infrastructure
prophet teach incl never second said is
there
but let not chance
only break
two that
you
one of them is
when fai listening to this man giving a
speech about Islam telling them
stand fast and fight for the sake of
God not
is
all God and never think
yourself the b of enem
specie sometimes we understand wisd says
some vers of the shar we have to stick to
it even if we don't understand
the wisdom you can understand later and
you may not understand at all but stick to what
allah tells you because you are
not smarter than allah also among the
teaching prophetes of worship women
children ander all protected prot
actually
among the root caes of
jad that can j j in qu that not
God
allow some people to fight other people
many monasteries churches synes and mos
where the name of allah is commemorated could have been demolished
which means
that j is all to protect houses of worship
of other religions even though
we don't agree with them some of their bel but we
are by the
fight defend the freedom religion even
others not only musl
and
the i here prop
meem
battlefield behind we
cann dead uned
for
theat e no it is obligatory musl army to
thead of
enem respecting
conven i cheng any
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www.un.org
more
that conv
few more almost out of time there such
a vast this is such a vast toic so much to
cover there one one one thing very
important to mention here please tell us which is which is
we said that that jihad
in a combat in the combat form is
allowed when you want to establish
justice but we have to say that
establishing justice should be
always through peaceful muslim means
always to meil
they are all to for war
and
inra from and fight not against you and
offer you against peace open no way for you
which means you cann fight to
establish jce unless you try all to est
peaceful means chapter number
number and are weing about this indiv
are set a
governate speaking here about generally generally
actually jih be per under the
ban of jl
isce we have that whenever there is an
indiv you can also participate under this
banner i don't deny that but we have to
stick very clos
to these comat prophet mamm
any violation to prophet orders will
make it not but rather terrorism let you
something many cri
up in tell us we know the last andal
man Prop peace be upon him
as mercy
ex you
can all days ex but now some people
they try to make him out to be some warlord shortly
what do you have to say
about this let me tell you quickly
because we did not prove that the word jihad
means war on terrorism
no he was the mer human earth and and have
fight by all number trace
means and if then you have
fight inj quick about isam terrorism
if you just think with me
what is the difference between terrorism
and violence is two enem each other violence against against
the weak to put
pressure on the enemy enemy indirectly so
those
who committed you know the the the crime
of 91 for example they did not have a
problem with those citizens themselves
but they had a problem with the american
government so by
putting the weak people or unarmed
people or civilians under pressure they
are putting pressure on the
you hiroshima nagazi there was no with
those civilians but it was to put those
civilians under pressure in order to put
pressure ind the government of
japan against itself so here terrorism
is
targeting the
week and putting violence on the we in
order to put pressure on your enemy
God
in the last minute we have can you it up and
so the people will a better
understanding in the last that we what
is Islam and are the muslims actually
calling the people to Islam is the
religion of jce justice should be
established through peaceful need if jce
cann be established peaceful means
unfortunately muslims will have to go to war
but number one peace has to come as
the first choice
always peace and war are two means to
establish justice the first mean and the
best meaning is peace itself god almighty
among actually his names is peace and
prophet muhammad warned us from the wor
two names and he told us don't name your
children after those two names the first
one is war and the other one is
bitterness so what do you think about a
religion that teaches its followers that
the best name
one of the divine is peace and the wor
name is
waro ofo peace one of the chapters ofr is
the manif victory ands like that sur
we have gred you a manif victory gu in
which ble was it was in any ble was treat think that
religion of peace or religion of
war definitely a religion of peace but
at the same time muslims should not
watch in justices in the world like that
and and just uh passiv thank
you very much we're out of
time inall god willing we have you back
to help answer some more questions and clear
up the many
misconceptions about this beautiful way
of life the way of life of all the
messengers of god peace the
own pe and like than you god
almighty peace be upon you peace
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