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Frankie welcome to Bosnia thank you
thank you yes thank you for having me in
your show I must say I'm a I'm a I can
say I'm a fan I learned a lot watching
you and your guests and it's an honor to
be part of it it's very nice to have you
on the program it's very interesting
talking to you and learning more about
you kind of U has me thinking about my
past and my transition some of the
things that you're going through some of
the things that because you're a pretty
well-known uh rapper yeah here in Bosnia
yeah and you started to uh before covid
or during covid you started to ask the
crucial question what's the purpose of
life you started to explore tell us how
you got to that position exactly um well
um before Co I had some medical problems
I have I I got the same problem that my
father and my mother had and that's high
blood pressure and if if you work a lot
if you experience stress a lot that can
be dangerous at some time and I I ended
up in a hospital and uh I realized that
I need to change the way I live to start
to live a little bit healthier to change
my food habits my sleep habits all that
stuff and so I started started this road
of change and um I should say that I
grew up like a cultural Muslim like most
of the people here in Bosnia I knew some
basic stuff and basic information about
Islam but I was not really practicing it
and um in in this pre- Corona time I had
like this Pro medical problems and I
started to um also to learn about
meditation and stuff like that so I
started to meditate and of course I have
a lot of friends who are practicing
Muslims so I saw some connections
between the meditations and and the
Muslim prayer the Salah started to talk
to them about them and then I realized
okay I need to learn more more about it
and I started to learn about Islam a lot
to to read some books one one I can
mention maybe is Al Carney it's a great
author that he was the first one that I
started to explore and read and learning
about it I realized that I have a very
small very little knowledge about my
faith and when I started to to explore
it I found out so much nice things you
know especially in this uh book for of
Al Carney I think it uh the book don't
be sad it's called don't be sad exactly
that's his bestseller I I believe
there were a lot of quotes from the
Quran and I was like wow this is so
beautiful I didn't even know that this
is in the Quran and even learning about
it and reading about it helped me a lot
to come and to you know I I felt some
like all this anxiety and this problems
that I uh developed because of the blood
pressure went away or became you know I
I started to
control started to control it a little
bit and I I then I thought if if this is
helping me already just learning and
reading about it how would it be if I
start practicing it and if I start
actually to pray so I printed out some
suras and you know uh started to pray
reading it and I realized right away the
first few days that it's amazing it's I
felt like uh my my my you know my chest
expanding yeah don't feel don't don't
feel this anxiety so more and all this
beautiful feelings that I guess every
Muslim is familiar with and he knows
what I'm talking about and that's
basically the start so I started to to
to pray uh at at the beginning just one
or two times a day how much I can handle
and I'll find time and then very quickly
after that I started to to pray all the
five times at uh a day and just started
to read a lot of a lot of stuff about
Islam and that that was the beginning of
the journey I would say tell me this uh
before you got to that were you because
Define for our audience when you talk
about culturally Muslim what do you mean
by that I understand what you're saying
but for for people who are like what
does that mean well that means um you
know
fasting a few days in Ramadan stop
drinking alcohol in Ramadan But
continuing after Ramadan again don't
eating pork of course and a few times
maybe Aid going to the was with the
family and stuff like that but not
actually praying not you know not giving
zakat not not doing all these other you
know very important parts of of our
religion so yeah I like I said my my
late grandmother she she taught me the
basics about Islam and she you know
while she was alive we used to live
together in a big house and with her I
used to I sometimes I used to fast
during Ramadan and
that's that's basically it like I said
when I started to learn about Islam to
read and then I realized how how less
little I know actually because you know
I thought okay that's it what my
grandmother told me and what I you know
see and my with my family and you know
what I see on TV but actually it's it's
much much deeper of course and yeah I'm
I'm happy that I that I experienced
these medical problems because because
they led me to to becoming a better
person so it was at that point that you
started to it triggered something to go
ahead and to look deeper into what you
already sitting on but just not was a
treasure but you weren't really
exploring The Treasure of Islam yes
exactly was did were you curious about
any other religions did you look at uh
because in Basia you do have Catholics
croatians serbs Orthodox were you
Buddhism Hinduism you were dabbling in
some meditation and whatnot uh uh it can
be attributed to like um Buddhism and
yoga and whatnot did you explore some of
the other and do a comparative search at
all that came later actually later yeah
because at the beginning I knew I'm a
Muslim I'm I'm a I'm born in a Muslim
family so I started with Islam and while
learning about Islam also I started to
to learn about other religions so for
example the Bible and in the
Christianity and stuff like that and
while I was learning about Islam and
started learning about it I compared it
yes and I came to the conclusion that
Islam is the is is the right way and
that is my religion and I should follow
it and yeah that's that's basically it
yeah did you I heard you saying at one
point you were saying that before when
you were drinking and partying you and
then you know people really weren't
objecting at all but then now you
started to go towards prayer or whatnot
and now people are like what's wrong
with this guy yes yes I wrote a column
for Al jazer here in balcans for their
website uh talking about my experience
quitting alcohol and when I quit alcohol
that was also much before Corona and
much before Islam I I realized that just
physically I cannot take it anymore it's
too much it's uh when I the day after
you know it's very hard to recover and
so I I realized why I'm doing this to
myself I'm I'm just putting poison in my
body and I I I started by doing it like
a small challenge like I said to myself
let's try one year without alcohol to
see how how I will feel how my body will
feel how I'm mentally and physically
will change will it change something and
I did that and after one year I was like
sitting there and thinking okay what now
should I now drink one and celebrate or
should I just continue not drinking
because I felt the big difference of
course I was much healthier much you
know all the benefits would that came by
sober life I I felt them and I was not
like an alcoholic like living on the
street and having my first beer at 9:00
in the morning and shaking I was just
like but I
also I would say that was that I was
like a alcoholic but on a lower scale
maybe you know because there was no week
passing that I didn't drink at one or
two days in the week so yeah um the to
to get back to your question actually PE
and I talk about it in this column that
people started to look at me wrong and
to ask him ask me are you okay what's
going on are you going crazy because you
stop stopped drinking because it's so
deep in our society that drinking is
normal and that everybody's doing it and
the the one who's not doing it he's like
crazy and yeah that that was something I
experienced that's very interesting
because now you're saying that from
before when you're partying when you
acting you know how people can act when
they're drunk right or when they're
drinking they can act like fools whatnot
and then you can end up you know
according to uh World Health
Organization you got yearly annually 3
million people die from alcohol yes yes
and they just uh let's stick on this
just for a second because I mean people
look at you've often heard this like you
know Islam is just a bunch of Dos and
don't everything is Haram there's just a
few things like for instance what to
drink is just what alcohol drink
everything else yes right exactly so if
we just stick with this uh it's it's
fascinating to see that even they had a
new study I don't know if you've heard
of this that you know you've heard this
saying that uh a little glass of wine
it's good for the heart it's heart but
actually now it's not they have a new
study that came out that no amount of
alcohol is actually good for you exactly
and you have a lot of in America
conservative Christians and others who
are abandoning alcohol very wellknown
prominent name so you look at it and
you're like wow this is actually a
blessing that I'm not one of those 3
million that could potentially die due
to all of the underlining things that
can happen totally drinking not to talk
about taking someone's life from drunk
driving and whatnot uh so let's and then
but you didn't have people coming to you
talking about now that's a good thing
you know patting you on the back but you
start praying and now they're coming
after you well yes I mean that also was
like a little bit cont cont contral
controversial because you know as a
rapper they they see you in a way and
for them you are like this this guy this
Persona and now that changes too so
what's going on but I must say that I
had a lot of also support for my friends
and my family I mean it's not like you
know negative stuff and I
I'm I mean the the best thing uh What uh
helped my wife on my friends and my
family uh realize that this is a
positive change is the change they saw
in me in my behavior in my you know
health and everything so they they my
wife especially she was a little bit
scared when I started practicing Islam
because you know there are a lot of
stereotypes she was like is he now going
to Isis Isis to Syria or something like
that I mean I can understand that too
because she she's she married one guy
and now this other guy comes here and
but after a few months she realized also
hey this guy's getting a you're changing
for the better yeah he's getting a
better father better husband everything
better neighbor so it's a positive thing
and she then she was fully supporting me
on that way don't and I don't even
mention the health and what what that
did to my body and stuff so yeah I mean
that's something they can nobody can
deny because when they see you happier
healthier and being a better person
that's I mean that's the proof right
there so you were saying earlier that
you didn't even start implementing in
Islam but you were studying Islam you're
already feeling better exactly now
you're getting to implement Islam yes
the med the prescription that comes from
the creator of the heavens and earth God
Almighty Allah he's telling us to pray
five times a day minimum yep leave off
certain things yes so you're leaving off
alcohol you're starting to implement
Salah you end up uh making Hajj umra
umra yes tell us about that well while
learning about it and starting to
practicing it I learned about umra I
didn't even know that
um is a thing I I just knew about Hajj
and the perception was Hajj that that's
what all people do and when I realized
okay this is there is a umra also you
can go whenever you like you just you
don't need to wait a spe special time of
the year and stuff like that so it was
Corona it was the lockdown was like
loosening a little bit so traveling
became again possible and I was like as
a musician I didn't have any concerts so
I had a lot fre time and God thanks I
had some money saved so I said okay I
want to I want to do umra and I thought
to me to myself okay listen I I traveled
the world with music went to America
went to Japan Canada Russia all Europe
and but this one one trip that is very
important for my identity I didn't do so
let's do it now and I learned what I
have to do doing umra and also I went
there to to experience you know to visit
Medina Mecca to see the culture to see
the people there of course focusing
mostly of of my religious duty but I
also wanted to see you know where where
the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam
was born and where he lived and stuff
like that so yeah I did umra in
2022 or 21 I think and it
was fantastic experience I mean one one
of my the first day we arrived there we
we prayed fjer together and then we went
to the hotel rest a little bit and then
I came for the noon prayer I was alone
and I went in the mid of the prophet and
I was looking around and I was amazed
and a lot of emotions came over me and I
started to pray and then I realized my
grandma uh that and our talks and when
how she teached me about Islam and that
was so emotional I started to cry and
that was like I realized why once aine
this mid is thousand time bigger and
much worth than at home so it's it's
amazing experience I would recommend it
to everybody and I hope one day inshah
to do it again mhm yeah tell me this you
are aware of what's going on in America
with one of the most famous rappers
right now P Diddy Sean Diddy Sean Diddy
comes is facing dozens of new
allegations of sexual assault and a
series of lawsuit set to be filed at a
news conference today Texas base
attorney Tony Busby said that he's
representing 120 accusers with
allegations against the music mogul that
happened over 20 years Busby said that
the new accusers include men and women
and they come from more than 25 States
including Florida Buzby claims that his
clients will mostly face abuse during
After parties and auditions the lawyer
said that he's had more than 3,000
people come forward to his office with
accusations against coms and that he
plans to begin filing lawsuits in
various States within the next 30 days
now today col's attorney said that quote
he cannot address every meritless
allegation and what has become a
reckless media circus that said Mr comes
emphatically and categorically denies as
false and defamatory any claim that he
sexually abused anyone including minors
and quote it he has pleaded not guilty
to the federal charges yes are you
familiar with everything that's on
packaging what do your thoughts on that
this awful I mean thank God he got
caught and I I I I didn't like the guy
anyway I mean no I there was something
fishy about him all the time I mean I
was a big Tupac fan and you know also
there was this beef there was a beef
between p didy and with Tupac yes Tupac
was one side and P didy and Biggie were
were east coast and who was East Coast
uh Biggy Smalls Biggy Smalls py py and
then West Coast and West Coast is p
Tupac and Snoop Dog and Dr Dre that was
the beef in the '90s so and since then I
didn't like the guy yeah and there's
also rumors that he is guilty that Tupac
got shot he paid some guys to do it
that's I hope that he will also answer
for that that he will get a trial for
that even I mean it's it's a lot of
years you know went by but and the GU is
I mean I thank God that that he got
caught and I hope he got he will end up
in prison for the rest of his life we
can get a a Bosnian um perspective on
the whole issue and I think because you
know a lot of Youth they idolize people
like this yes and now looking at his
life and he had the the whole world in
front of
his in his arms in his hands everything
I mean what what what could the guy not
have I mean he's isn't he a billionaire
yeah I guess yeah he did he right yeah
right I mean he has all the money in the
world I mean he done his kids didn't
have to worry about it but now the
situation changes and he's in a in a
prison well and I think that will give
him a lot of time to think and I mean
yeah I I of course every we all know
that this music industry and Hollywood
and America especially this is there are
so much wrong things going on and so
much negative uh you know Haram stuff
and promoting some some just wrong
values yeah uh Bosnia or in Balan it's
it's different you know we of course of
course we have also artists like that
who are
like promoting wrong values I was one of
them you know years ago I I also have
some songs which I'm not proud of and I
would like if it would be possible I
would change it but of course it's not
possible I was a young kid then I was
Dumb and you know thinking some
different ways and but balcan is is is
not like America you know we have we
have also our issues for examp if I
should talk about and promote
or a to to to tell the viewers about my
music I would say it's more like a
conscious rap it's it's often talked
about problems in in Balkans and Bosnia
and it's changed of course after my my
of after rum and after this Islam
accepting Islam and I also started to
talk about some different things I I
also talk about my experience learning
about and changing you know
Islam
um yeah but this is I mean it's
satisfying to see that people like that
still uh can get caught because uh when
you when you think about powerful people
you think they are Untouchable yeah and
it's it's good to see that there's some
you know they still can be you know
touched and still will answer for their
crimes they're comparing it almost to
like you know the uh Epstein you know
you heard Epstein Island he was on the
from one Le so he now P didy Puff Daddy
from the music angle yes and then I had
a chance alhamdulillah to interview you
mentioned Tupac to muta from The Outlaws
and yeah someone comes out like him and
he's also someone who is in in in that
lifestyle and talking about now the same
thing you're talking about how's he he's
experiencing what the money couldn't buy
him the Fain come buy him then you have
also people like Lon who was with the
other side so you have exactly talking
about west side east side so really the
only hope at the end of the day for Puff
Daddy what what's he going now Sean
Colmes what's his I don't even I don't
know and I don't care the one thing I
would say I mean I was never rich like
American rappers but even in my most
successful years when I had like great
projects great great tours earned earned
money and you know got everything I
wanted even then I felt some emptiness
here and I didn't know why and
wh why why it still don't doesn't makes
make me happy but you know now as a as
as a Muslim I realized why why why I
wasn't feeling this happiness and why
was feeling empty here because I didn't
have the dean I I was not a Muslim I was
not uh believing in God and today I
still doing my music maybe not that
successful like few years before but
I feel happier I feel much much much
happier and satisfied and this this
emptiness is gone and you're just
actually beginning now because it's only
been what a few years yeah uh three uh
three years yeah yeah so this is very
important this is uh hearing from people
like yourself and when we bring up some
of these celebrities some of these
people like that I think it's better
that we discuss it and then we can go
ahead and unpackage the stuff because
what happens uh percentage wise the
youth I mean how many like 80 90% or
more are really engrossed into this
culture and following people if not this
person the people under him his record
label listening to uh much of the filth
that's out there that's promoting
promiscuity drugs alcohol you know they
even had this rap I I was watching it
just got I don't know they have a
certain name for
it n police police say you're a trigger
puller police say you're a trigger
puller is that true what least say
you're a
trigger where they're actually gunning
down people in New York
City their mission stopping the rain of
terror caused by teens young men and a
few women who engage in running gum
battles with their opposition or Ops at
all hours of the day and night no matter
who's in the way right in their own
Community it's almost like they were
competing with with each other to see
who could shoot more times for no good
reason investigators say the hatred is
fueled by inflammatory disses about
murdered Ops and drill WPS posted on
social
media that's aspiring drill rapper nay
Benz Who police say is one of the gang
leaders the average age of the K
subjects is 20 teen girls are trigger
pullers too like the shooter in this
video says Deputy inspector Craig
Edelman they're shooting at each other
with a yellow school bus filled with
kids in between them they are absolutely
firing bullets without remorse or regret
and without regard of anybody that's
around and there's a certain term for it
have you heard of it uh no and they're
trying to outdo each other okay and I
forgot the name for it but it's
literally where they're going and then
this rapper and then he's he's talking
about what he's going then he goes up
and then people imitate him they go gun
down shoot down this person it's like
just out of control another local rapper
is dead late last night officers
responded to calls of shots fired
violence that has already claimed the
lives of too many it's immensely popular
hard-hitting and the lyrics are
provocative what is drill in layman's
terms it's like a sub genra of hip-hop
right the dissing is what established oh
this is a drill record they're dissing
each other they're calling each other's
names out the term drill was coined by
the late rapper Pacman what exactly
defines drill is Up For Debate but
everyone agrees that the drill in drill
music is all about one thing violence
yeah that's that's really I mean I
didn't I don't know exactly what but I
can imagine and I can so then I I I
relate and I say man this is I was
listening to this stuff you know I was
that lifestyle right it was something
that uh you get you gravitate towards
you want to be like the stars you want
to be like the P daddies but and then
they're having these uh freak Show
parties right you got everybody in
Hollywood is now they have like these
tapes and what it's going to come out
they're scared they're scared about it
so the point here is you have two ways
you have the way that people like mutah
Napoleon chose uh Lon he had a
interesting quote when I interviewed him
he said we were paying for the disease
while the Cure is free and that cure now
beautiful you're you're upon this also
or you can be in line trying to get to
the party the freak Show party yes but
all that ends doesn't it it's like
chasing that those fleeting enjoyments
let's talk about that it's like it's
like the hamster who who runs in a
circle you know there's no end I mean if
you earn your first million then you
want your second or your 10th and that
it's just you
know uh like like like I said this
hamster and it's uh it's I'm just happy
for for the people who realize that you
know point they jump out you're like a
dog chasing your tail a hamster in that
wheel you just keep going and it's like
you know who said um we were supposed to
have inshallah he comes through I have a
good friend of mine who's been talking
with him right now they're in Dubai with
uh Dan brazilan you've heard of him yes
I heard of he's like the new uh Hugh
Hefner of our time but the good news is
for the last year he hasn't been posting
some of that stuff from the past yes
he's exploring he and he compared this
lifestyle he is a dark hole right and
this is a man who's great description
got he's got everything right but now we
got him actually reading the Quran he's
coming to on his own accord I think his
good friend a whole family accepted
Islam a whole family they all accepted
Islam and now he's also he's
contemplating thinking he's in he might
actually we're waiting to hear back he's
supposed to come uh to Bosnia waiting to
hear back but you got people like this
who lived a life of debauchery had
everything yes like the P dides but
one's going in that direction others are
exploring and they come to where you've
come to I don't know I also talked about
it in a few interviews it's something
also with the age when I started to
learn about and practice Islam I was 39
40 no I'm now 42 and it's also something
you know when you when you reach 40s
it's like you mature spiritually and you
are you're you're ready to receive the
message and you're ready to explore this
and I mean the Quran was released to to
the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam
also when he was 40 so it's
it's it has something to do with with
this age and also I mean maybe I'm wrong
but I see some Awakening going on yeah a
lot of people you know start to learn
about religion about Islam and I don't
know if it's because I'm now fresh into
it and I see it and I didn't see it
before but maybe you you you also youve
been you longer in this and you see that
I I think that something is you know
going on some Awakening some people
coming to to Islam we're seeing a lot of
Americans in America with everything
that's happening inza right now yeah and
the mass are coming off people are
starting to realize they they've been
lied to they're questioning the money
that's funding what's happening now this
oppression against innocent human beings
so you got people like Dan bazan who are
speaking out other people conservative
Christians and just human beings in
general who are human at the end of the
day and they're seeing what's happening
and you can tell us now that something
similar happened here where we're at
where we're sitting right here in Bosnia
can you talk about that yeah sure I mean
I was a young kid I was 10 when the war
started and I moved to Germany quickly
with my family but of course I had a lot
of family members in Saro in TLA in Bina
who also ended up in concentration camps
and they were in the army fighting in
the war so I witnessed this through them
and through their stories but it was
similar like um like now happening in
Gaza we all remember this quote after
the Holocaust when the people people
said never again yes and then it
happened again in Bosnia or in C I mean
started in Croatia never again is not
supposed to be just for a certain people
for anyone exactly of course I mean and
especially if you see if you talk about
Europe I mean Europe is this like
continent where prosperity and where
everybody's you know living nice and no
Wars in Europe anymore and then you have
it happen in Croatia starting in Croatia
coming Bosnia then Kosovo now we have it
in Ukraine so never again never again
but it happens again and now Gaza I mean
Gaza was the they have they Wars since
Israel was founded so I mean it's it's a
hypocrisy I mean I can see yeah I mean
it's just like it's supposed to be never
again for everybody but it seems like
it's never again just for some certain
people you know and I mean I see a lot
of similarities between Bosnia and Gaza
and you have also we had a lot of
protests here in in Saro in Bosnia for a
lot of fundraisers and people are ready
to help and willing to help even if they
you know we're not the richest country
but still we we we know how it is and
how it feels so we are always ready to
to to help when it's needed and I just
pray to God that this stops soon and
that the suffering of the people ends
and I mean all I can do is talk about it
um I I'm right now doing also a song for
Gaza with a creation rapper um that will
come out soon and you know to support
all these protests to donate money and
you know to to build some
pressure to towards our our politicians
and you know to do what whatever is uh
he's also very very successful rapper
who did I think the second song for Gaza
and you suddenly you you realize Who's
Who and I I was not a big fan of meckel
Moore before but now he got my he got my
respect I'm Michael Mo Michael Moore
Michel Moore he is also a great rapper
from from from America and that's the
point where you see who who who got the
courage who's ready to speak out to tell
the truth truth and yeah those people
will always have my respect and I also
see it as my duty to talk about that
stuff my last album manifest there was a
song it's called identity of course
where we mention
the conflict uh in Gaza and Palestine
and the hypocrisy that we talked about
never again and then Ukraine and stuff
like that so for me as an artist I see
it as my duty and as a how how how
should I put this I mean good art always
is always talks about people not it's I
don't care if it's music or movie or art
painting whatever I mean an art do the
duty of an artist is to talk about the
problems I mean rep started as a protest
uh for the for the for the people in the
ghettos in America in New York he talked
about racism he talked about you know
social uh problems and stuff like that
so when I as a kid started to to listen
to that music I realized okay if I ever
going to do a song like that so my duty
is to talk about the problems in my
country in my city and you know and of
course globally so yeah
yeah I mean this is for for people to
reflect uh when you think about your
life and you think about like when you
had this situation happen with your
health I'm sure you're thinking about
what if I died tomorrow right of course
life is very short and now you look at
someone going back to aan p p didy cones
all of the money that that one can have
he's sitting literally in a jail cell
that money can't get him out he might
spend the rest of his life behind bars
at the end what's it worth if you just
live for satisfying your desire because
that's what it was about it was just
about how much more at the freak shows
how much more of an extreme you can go
to right uh so this is something for the
Youth the young the old to really
contemplate is really it's just I I love
when I talk to people like yourself who
are a part of who are a part of that
world and now you're coming to the
realization that there's a purpose you
start to look into Islam and now you're
starting to live it you're seeing the
benefits while some people are still
trying to imitate uh the Tupac or the
whoever is out there of the rappers you
can see where at the end of the day
where where that ends up you know yes
yes I
mean again I was I'm just happy that I
realized that because a lot of people
will never realize it and we'll die and
not knowing and not finding out the the
truth and I mean
that's also something that I learned
through learning about Islam for example
the the prophet's Uncle who was a big
help in his life lived with him fought
with him but never somehow accepted
Islam died a disbeliever
so I mean you you have the examples in
our religion and you will see that I
mean I can do my best I can talk about
it I can tell my friends about it I can
promote it but at the end it's you know
up to God if they you know find the
right right path and if they you know
realize it I want to touch upon go
coming back to here I've spoken to a lot
of people talking about what had
happened during the war and whatnot the
aggression and when I ask them at the
end of all of this does your religion
teach you to hate to Hate someone
because they're Christian or Serbian or
catian 100% all of them say no yes and
even even many have said we'd like to
forgive but no one's asking us for
forgiveness right so if you can touch
upon that you know the I just recently
interviewed a Serb who actually accepted
Islam and you see how Islam transcends
because there's this
misconception that if you become a
Muslim somehow you have to like you
change your
nationality yeah but that's totally
that's totally misconception on that yes
I mean that's the problem uh of Balan I
think that uh people cats and serbs and
atheist and whatever I think that uh
Islam is something for the Turks and are
you Turkish no no you visited Turkey
right yes I went there but you're not
tury I I actually never explored my my
roots that far I mean maybe I am I don't
know I I don't actually care you know
maybe some of them who are accusing in
their DNA they might be more Turkish
exactly exactly exactly so they look on
Islam through this you know filter of
nationality which as of course as we
know most most of the people in the
world are not Arabs and no they are not
Turks so and especially in the west
where now it's Islam is growing rapidly
and that's also a misconception that we
try to you know to remove yeah and to
you know get rid of it because it's it
it you can you can have your nationality
whatever it is and just accept the other
religion I mean it's it's it's totally
how should I say totally normal to get
to to the other part of your question
um after the war I mean we still live
together here in Bosnia with with
Orthodox Christians with Catholics with
atheists with Jews also many people
forget that Saro is also one of the uh
cities that you know accepted a lot of
Jews after you know about that this is
very important this is called considered
the Jerusalem of Europe isn't it yes
exactly we have like a mosque a church
and a synagogue in 20 M distance you
know and a lot of Jews from andalo came
after you know the Crusaders came back
to Spain they went a lot of them went
with the Muslims to Africa and a lot of
them came then to what's then Ottoman
Empire and they stayed here and they
lived also in Yugoslavia and the biggest
community of Jews were here in Saro and
they lived here until the war in0 in the
'90s then a lot of them went to Israel
and you know move maybe to Europe or
whatever but we still have a great
community of of Jewish people here in
Saro so it's Liv safe yeah living safe
no no even now when this conflict in
Israel with the Zionist is going on you
never have they you never saw like a
problem here you know because we know to
different differentiate because they
they're are neighbors they are here
they're living with us in s they're
bosnians and so yeah another example is
maybe a lot of people heard that in the
war in the '90s a lot of mosques were
destroyed for example in my hometown we
had like six bilina I was born in Bina
we had six mosques demolished to the
ground to like all six at the same time
and same day demolished Stones picked up
and you know drove into a river and you
know and on the other side we have Saro
which has like I don't know how many
churches Orthodox Catholics son
synagogues there was not like a window
crack so that's the difference between
you know Muslims
and the other that's that's because of
Islam exactly yeah because we were we
were taught that also a church is like
it's our respons responsibility like in
the times of sahabas you know there were
other you know
religion communities and you need to
protect them they're you know they're
your neighbors you lived with them it's
it's your duty it's interesting because
you see people projecting many things
onto Islam this hate and this violence
and they try to attribute these things
to Islam but they're projecting what
they're doing uh but you see a firsthand
account what you're saying here when you
study what what happened here the
aggression uh it's a very deep history I
think we don't even really study this
back people don't know what what
happened over here so I think this is a
shining example uh and then the the
Jerusalem of Europe being here and it's
amazing so much so much to learn learn
there's so much people should come visit
Bosnia Saro I mean we see a a a big
increase of tourists every year and it's
cheap the good food is good you know
weather is nice you it's nice people
you're everybody's welcome here so
everybody should come explore learn
about it and yeah thank you brother
thank you for spending some time with us
no problem thank you again like I said
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