condoning this on the basis of what?
Like you're saying, "Oh, well, they're
Muslims, so who cares?" This 9/11
programming where we just don't see
Muslims as like human life.
>> I agree with her completely.
>> Attacking millions of Americans cuz
they're Muslims. It's disgusting.
>> Yeah. Is it like a contagious disease?
Are you going to contract Islam because
you walk inside the door?
>> Can tell that we live Christians and
Muslims together, side by side. This is
the type of stupid bigotry that I've
been trying to deal with among Catholics
who are agitating getting people to do
things and feeling completely powerless.
Abbott says during the whole co thing,
oh, you're welcome to Texas. That's the
free speech capital. We're not going to
ban you up. This exactly the position
that Charlie Kirk was in as they're
trying to get out of there. You look at
the cars. What happened to those cars?
He actually said, "Am I screwed? Am I
going to hell? Are you saying there's a
double standard here?" I'm asking you,
you're the academic.
>> I think there's a double standard here.
>> Greetings of peace. Welcome everybody.
Before I bring out my next guest who's
author of 30 books, lecturer all around
the world and one of the leading
Christian academic scholars today.
Before I bring out Dr. Jones, let's get
into this video and get his reaction to
it. And then I have a lot of questions
for him on his latest article and much
more. I have been very disappointed with
Trump on his perspectives about Gaza
conservatives, people that say they're
Christians, who are condoning this on
the basis of what? Like you're saying,
"Oh, well, they're Muslims, so who
cares?" This 9/11 programming where we
just don't see Muslims as like human
life and and really realizing how much
we had lied to about what was happening
in that region.
>> Dr. Jones, how are you, sir?
>> Good. Good to be here.
>> Good to have you back on the program.
So, we kicked it off with this video.
What are your thoughts?
I think that the I agree with her
completely. We have been we have been
witnessing this genocide for two years
now and feeling completely powerless to
to do anything about it. Uh and what
what the what the the have done is
basically destroy their reputation for
the entire world. And I don't think
they'll ever get it back. They will
never get it back. I think Israel is
going to end and they will never get it
back. And uh the fundamental conflict
that we're facing right now is whether
there is a universal moral law that
applies to all men, everyone mandatory.
Uh invoking things like uh the ten
commandments, thou shalt not kill and go
down the line. Okay. Theft is also part
of it and it's being shredded right now
as as we're talking. Uh, and I think it
has to do with the end of the American
Empire, the end of the Third Republic,
and acts of desperation that are trying
to deal with a situation that is out of
their control, and they're unhappy. Now,
you touch upon this in your recent
article, Culture Wars. You talk about
the West has fallen, traditionalism, and
Islamophobia. Can you go into this a
little bit? You touch upon Dearbornne,
what happened recently.
>> Yeah. you you touch upon this uh hate
provocator as you call him and it's
interesting that you mentioned him. Did
did you know that if you watch my video,
he actually visited us here in Tampa.
He's running for a position. [laughter]
Yeah. So, I have a I have I I I have a
video. This is shortly after he had his
stunt over there in Dearbornne. So, he
shows up. I came a little bit late. The
theme of the conference was gratitude to
God. That was a theme. It was live
streamed. Dr. Jones, listen. It was live
stream. So everyone can see what's
happening.
>> I think we live Did we live stream? Like
>> it's live streamed also.
>> Yeah. So anybody who doesn't know can
look at the live stream.
>> Live streaming this. This is not a
secret, you know. [clears throat] Yeah.
>> So you can watch it online. It's being
live streamed.
>> There was a pastor that was there. We
got him also testifying of his
experience here.
>> Warmest,
kindest, friendliest
people.
>> We also have another Christian family
that was here. It was open to everybody.
Now, his spiel was that he infiltrated
the event,
>> Tampa Bay Islam [music]
event
going undercover,
>> and that we didn't allow him in uh until
he said something. He posed as a Muslim
and he said he was Mandani's manager.
>> I told him I was Zoran Mandami's
campaign, social media campaign manager.
>> You can't make this stuff up. [laughter]
>> Did Did he bring the pig's head with
him? He didn't bring the pig's head with
him. [laughter] But then but then when
when someone saw him saw him and rec
recognized him from Dearborn, they said,
"Why are you faking like that you're
Muslim?" Then he did his whole spiel. He
got up, made a scene. He was escorted
out nicely. This is a family event. We
don't need stuff like this. And then he
got on his uh phone. He's like, "Look,
they're not allowing Christians in here.
These jihadis, they're kicking me out."
Blah blah blah blah. And then he's like,
"Send me some money." So it's like,
"Yeah."
>> Yeah. Now, this is this is I think he
was uh turned by the FBI. I think that
the FBI is involved in this type of
thing. Uh it's a classic profile, okay?
He was in J6. I don't know what he did
there, but he was in jail. And once
you're in jail, the FBI comes to you and
say, "Look, you can spend the next 20
years in prison if you like, or you can
work with us." And so, generally, people
say, "Okay, I'll work for us." And so,
he became an agent provocator.
Uh, I think with the I think with FBI
approval and FBI backing, the FBI is
notorious for getting involved in this
type of stuff in Michigan. Uh, they've
done it before. They they they're always
creating plots there. They're giving
there we had a plot there called the
Hooterie. It was six guys in a trailer
park with a 22 rifle and one bullet. And
the FBI shows up and they start giving
him guns and all this other type of
stuff to pro to provoke this type of
thing. They're notorious for this. And
so I think that this is what's going on
with with Jake Lang. I mean, look, you
don't have to come up with a theory
here. He was obviously an agent
provocator. He's going through
Dearbornne, which is the most Muslim
city in the country. And he's got the
bacon. He's going to rub the bacon on
the Quran, walking through a Muslim
neighborhood. That's to promote
violence. And then he's got a selfie, a
camera there, and he's going to take a
picture of them. and then that will get
money from the donors. But there's a
there's a bigger part here. I got
involved with the FBI. Uh they've come
to my house to interview me after I went
to Iran. But they also got involved with
uh this so-called uh right-wing plot
uh the uh Dirty Dozen. Well, he ended up
on the list I my group other people
people my group my and magazine on the
list of the FBI in Richmond, Virginia.
And when that became public, it blew up
in their face and they started uh uh
people senators would ask the head of
the FBI like, "What is going on here?
Why are you targeting conservative
Catholics?" Well, I think because what
you have when you have a religion is you
have a a an identity that threatens
their narrative. And I think that's the
point of this. So, they were trying to
associate
traditional Catholics with white
nationalism. They don't go together.
Okay? Catholicism and whiteness do not
go together. They are two completely
different ideologies. But what they're
trying to do is get the Catholics
involved in these operations as a form
of identity theft. So if you if you if
you have an ident if you have a
religious identity, I've seen this in
Dearborn. Okay, I was at the Arbine
March, Arba March in Dearborn. Now you
got all of these Muslims there and
they're all chatting and you know going
on. Nobody said anything because I think
it's a protected identity even if you're
a Muslim which is usually you're not
part of the triple melting pot of
Catholic Protestant Jew but if you have
a religious identity you are some sense
in some sense protected so the point is
how do you strip people of their
religious identity? Well one of the
things they do with Catholics is trying
to turn Catholics into white people. And
now if you're white, well that's not a
protected identity and they can do
anything to you. That's I think what's
going on here. There was also the person
running for governor in your article. H
I believe it was Hudson. Is it Anthony
Hudson? And he came down there and then
he visited and he was also somebody who
fell victim to the hate propaganda. I
don't know if you saw his video where he
says these are all lies. He actually sat
with the Muslims. He ate with the
Muslims
>> from Dearborn. I want you to stop
talking about the hate in this town
because it doesn't exist. I would trust
my 17-year-old son walking down the
street in this town.
>> The stuff you see on the lamestream
media is false.
>> And he retracted some of the things that
he said,
>> right?
>> And and but this uh Jacob Lang, the hate
provocator, he just kept on going with
it even after the person who said
there's this is this is false. You know
what I what what he was told and he saw
firsthand.
>> Yeah. I have a son who lives in
Dearborn. He's got a he he has eight
children. They've gone to school, public
school and Catholic school. They go to
public school. They're Muslims in the
school there. He told me that there was
a a crash in front of the city hall.
This is a Muslim mayor and they put a
crash in front of the city hall. The you
know the basically the place in
Jerusalem where Jesus Christ is born.
It's a standard thing. You have the
blessed mother of St. Joseph. You got
camels and all this other type of stuff.
And it's there in front of the city hall
in Dearborn. Now you you wouldn't find
that in Chicago. If you go they they
they have a big market in Chicago called
the Chriskindle market. It's a German
operation. The Germans come over and
they try and sell you their cuckoo
clocks and stuff like that. The first
thing you see when you walk into the
Chriskindle mark in Chicago is a manora.
A huge manora. This is the Christ child
market. And the first thing you see, the
only religious uh symbol you see is the
manora. This is typical. This is not
what happened in Dearborn. Going back to
this uh Jacob Lang, you you mentioned
the article he had 11 felonies
assaulting police officers. And it's
very it's very interesting that you had
Trump who pardoned him, but isn't he now
making Trump look very bad now? Because
Trump put his name behind his release.
So you think he's got a second chance to
life to turn his life around to do some
good in the world, but he's out there
just causing disruption, disturbing the
peace, terrorizing, you know, innocent,
hardworking people out there. Doesn't
this at the end make Trump look bad? I
don't know whether it makes Trump look
bad or not. I mean, basically the
January 6 thing was entrament. That was
an entrapment scheme. The FBI had
rehearsed that in Lancing, Michigan
before it happened in Washington. So the
FBI lures these uh Michigan militia guys
to Lancing,
lets them in. They have guns now, too.
Okay. They show up with their guns. The
FBI lets them into the the the house,
the the government house, the capital in
Lancing to make a scene and then to then
to turn that into something something or
other. You know, we're going to turn
that into some type of big deal. Well,
that's where it got started. It was
started as an entrapment. So the people
who got arrested for the January 6
thing, I think they had the sympathy of
the public uh behind them because they
knew that there was something wrong with
what happened in January 6. It just
didn't happen. They they were be the
people I know who were there were being
lured into the capital so they could
arrest them and turn it into an
insurrection. I think that's why uh
Trump pardoned these people. And then
but you would think now that the person
who pardoned he wouldn't be showing up
at uh religious houses, houses of
worship with decapitated pigs heads. I
mean what do you think if he was
standing in front of a synagogue? What
would happen if he was standing in front
of a synagogue?
>> That's different. That's different.
>> That's what That's what I'm talking
about.
>> That's different. This if he if he did
that in Florida, uh uh Ronda Santis
would have him taken out and shot. This
is Florida has no freedom of speech.
Ronda Santis is the worst example of
this type of politician that grabbles
for money. He he signs this hate speech
bill. He to flew to Tel Aviv to sign the
bill.
>> So I thought I thought Tallahassee was
the capital of Florida. Why are you
flying to Tel Aviv to do this? So what
do you think if he was in Florida, he
went down to Boca Raton, he went down to
Lago over there somewhere, Fort
Lauderdale, and he stood in front of a
synagogue like he did in Texas with a
decapitated pig's head head because
Jewish people also we don't want to
respect anybody of any religion. But
look, he's also they're kosher halal
pretty much same thing and he's doing
the exact same stunt. What
>> now? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I let
me get this straight. Are you saying
there's a double standard here?
>> I'm asking you. You're the academic.
>> I think there's a double standard here.
Okay. So, if you're a Muslim, you're
guilty until proven innocent. And if you
do something that offends the you're
they're they're going to throw the book
at you. This is the outrageous double
standard that exists in places like
Florida and Texas. all these hot beds of
either actual people living there or
Christian Zionism where they in Texas in
it has all these crazy hate speech laws
as well. So they during you know Abbott
says during the whole co thing oh you're
welcome to Texas that's the free speech
capital we're not going to ban you up
unless you say something you don't like.
So, we're all tired of this
exceptionalism. Okay, we have a whole
set of rules, but no has to follow the
rules. They're always above the law.
This I'm I'm tired. This is not
American. Let me get into this next
video and get your reaction to this.
>> Agree with that. Most Americans have
more in common with each other than they
disagree on. And almost everybody agrees
on that. And almost everybody is willing
to tolerate a good faith argument about
how to get there except a few. And
they're the ones running around calling
everyone an anti-semite. But everyone
ELSE IS LIKE, "YEAH, OF COURSE. THAT
SHOULD BE THE DEBATE." And they'll vote
FOR YOU. THEY WANT THAT because they
know they haven't had that.
>> That's the fact. And what you're
watching now attacking people on the
attacking millions of Americans cuz
they're Muslims.
>> It's disgusting. AND I'M A CHRISTIAN.
I'M NOT A MUSLIM. I'M NEVER I KNOW
THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORT TO claim I'm a
secret jihadi. I'M NOT.
>> YOU SHOULD NOT ATTACK PEOPLE on those
grounds. And you're seeing it from
Republic. What the hell ARE YOU DOING?
WHAT YOU'RE DO?
>> Your thoughts?
>> Yeah. Well, this is why he's public
enemy number one because he's he's he's
destroying their narrative. The
narrative is right now is that Muslims
are responsible for everything bad that
ever happened here. And then they're
trying to pin this on him. And he's
obviously not going along with it. And
so that's why he's been demonized. He's
public enemy number one. The problem is
with from their point of view is the
more they act this way, the more they're
destroying their own narrative. I'm
talking about people like Mark Lavine or
Rabbi Schmoolley. Okay? You can have the
algorithm put them on 24/7 and you will
bring about the exact opposite of what
you want to bring about because those
people make they they create
anti-semitism. I guarantee you they
create as soon as they get on and start
ranting the way they do, they create
anti-semitism. And Tucker Carson is
pushing back. And that's that's the
that's basically the fundamental contest
right now in America. What so the most
recent thing is you got the guy uh they
come out and say you have to denounce
Tucker Carlson. All conservatives must
denounce Tucker Carson. They go to the
head of the Heritage Foundation, which
is one of the main conservative
operations in Washington, and they go to
this guy, Roberts, and say, "You must
denounce Tucker Carlson, and he says,
"No, wait a minute. I I like Tucker
Carlson." And then they put the pressure
on him. Probably behind the scenes, the
big donors to the Heritage say, "No, no,
you got to do it." And he folds like a
cheap suit. So, let's get clear what
you're doing here. Tucker Carlson has a
big following among people who call
themselves conservatives. Mark Lavine is
an obnoxious jerk and so is uh Rabbi
Schmoolley. So what's the what do you
do? Do you want to I'm asking you as a
Republican, not you, but I'm saying in
general, what do Republicans want to do?
Do you want to win an election? Well,
you better go with somebody like Tucker
Carson has a big following or Candace.
They have a big following. Or do you
simply want to turn your party into a
rubber stamp for everything that with
big money want, which is exactly the
position, this exactly the position that
Charlie Kirk was in. Which way are you
going to go? Do you want to win an
election or Okay, you could kick all the
Tucker Carlson people out of the
Republican party and the next time you
hold the Republican convention, you can
hold it in a broom closet.
You could have Mark Lavine there, okay,
and you'll probably have five other
people and that will be it. So, which
way are you going to go? That's
precisely the problem that conservatism
is facing right now. Who do you
represent? Is it America first or is it
Israel first? Which is it? It it seems
like
really touched me what when I was
listening to Tucker. Um it hit home when
he was talking about the uh biatitudes
of Jesus and he gave examples uh blessed
are the poor in spirit where he talks
about uh blessed are the meek uh blessed
are the the peacemakers
uh you know the humble uh this is
something that we'd agree with. This is
these are amazing amazing things. It
seems like these are just pretty much
out the window for for many people who
claim to be Christian. I don't
understand. Even if you don't agree with
with um some of the things of of
uh in Islam regarding Muslims, I mean,
it seems like you'd have a better way of
winning someone over with um some of
these teachings rather than um the the
way many are are going about it, trying
to create Muslims as as an enemy, number
one. and now um creating this huge
division which uh I wanted to show you
this this next video here kind of
contradicts that and get your reaction
to it because this is also somebody
who's um spreading a lot of this
misinformation and I'm going to show you
this video and then get your um reaction
to it be cooperation in Bethlehem where
throughout the rest of the world there's
not just not conf not cooperation
there's actually conflict uh whether
it's in western in Europe and now in the
United States
>> like uh in Bethlehem since I was born
actually I can tell that we live
Christians and Muslims together side by
side as you can see backgrounds like the
mosque in front of the church and which
which is meaning that we are actually
together we living in Bethlehem this
just neighbors and we actually share the
life of Bethlehem people here the same
together like in the church we we have
people like uh police helping us they
are Muslims and they are taking care of
this church. They are security and we
have also and many people we are
actually grow up with them neighbors
side by side and with the same
difficulties with the same problems and
with the same happiness. So as I said
before
>> I mean that kind of goes against the
narrative right here you're seeing right
there. What what what is the big fear
among the
that peace might break out that that
that suddenly the people who uh they
want fighting each other will start
talking to each other and realize that
they're we're not uh we're not the
problem they're the problem. They're the
problem. That's the fundamental fear
they have. And so they're constantly
trying to create instances of fear. I
think the the goes back to the project
for the new American century the 1990s
where they decide that in order to make
the is the operation in order to make
the world safe for Israel they're going
to have to take out these seven
countries that became the the basis of
our foreign policy and then beginning
with 911 which was used as the excuse
the false flag operation that was used
as an excuse for these wars the Muslims
are the bad guys I guess you got the
message, didn't you? You're the you're
the source. The Muslims are the source
of every single problem in the world.
And so therefore, in order to be a good
American, you have to hate Muslims.
That's pretty much what's going on here.
>> Are you familiar with the Leavan affair?
I mean does isn't this telling like when
you look back at thing and you can if
you can espouse on the Leavan affair for
people who don't know much about it but
when you see that this what you're
talking about the division someone
trying to create division this was
exposed in this Leavon affair then you
had the USS Liberty and other incidences
where you were trying to divide Muslims
Americans uh to hate Muslims by doing
these kind of these type of false flags.
What
>> please? Well, yeah. Why the Leavon
affair was in Egypt. They the Israelis
blew up a synagogue, attacked the
synagogue. Israelis killed other to
create panic in the They'd all moved to
Israel.
That's I'm I'm telling, you know, we'll
never get any decent investigations
anymore, but that's my understanding of
what happened in Bondi Beach in
Australia. Okay, you got the they're
going to have a Hanukkah celebration in
public. Now, if everything was as bad as
they were saying, you wouldn't have a
Hanukkah celebration in public. You got
synagogues where you can go there and
you'll be in so much in control of who's
coming in and not. So, they got murdered
there and then the I'm saying it was an
Israeli false flag operation. They
murdered their own people and then the
immediately Netanyahu comes and says,
"You have to institute hate crimes
legislation. You are bad people, the
Australians." And so this uh prime
minister
folds like a cheap suit, punishes the
Israeli peop, I'm sorry, the Australian
people for what was obviously a false
flag operation perpetrated
attacking other. The same thing happened
with the uh the beginning of the October
7th thing that was a uh a music festival
there. Okay. And uh there was a lot of
Israelis there. And then uh there's an
attack. And you look at uh the cars,
they're trying to get out of there. You
look at the cars. What happened to those
cars? That could not happen with an
AK-47. These were helicopter gunships
run by the Israelis coming and killing
their own people. They do it all the
time. It's in the scriptures. When the
high priest, well, we're confronted with
Jesus Christ. They say it's better for
one man to die than for the nation to
perish. That is the way they deal with
their own people.
>> Yeah, this is very uh sad. Anytime any
innocent life is taken, we condemn that
across the board. I mean, and you had a
one of my guests uh Max Blumenthal, he
talks about u the independent uh
researchers and also from the Israeli
media, they talk about the Hannibal
directive. They talk about
>> right
>> uh many of these things, officers who
talk about uh some of the things that
you're you're discussing. People can go
and investigate that. But here's an
interesting tweet uh on X that you you
posted. Um it says, "This train station
is a symbol of a spiritual affinity with
Christians and Muslims share in their
venerance of the Blessed Mother."
It is also a symbol of a collaboration I
I prayed for when I attended mass at the
church next to the station. Can you go
ahead uh let people know what you're you
were posting about here? Yeah, I I went
I I went to Iran. The first time I went
to Iran uh or organized a a Hollywoodism
conference organized by the late Ner
Talabzad, a guy who was studying film at
NYU and then went back to Iran at the
time of the of the revolution. He was a
genius who could bring people together
from all over the world. So the first
time I'm there, I said, "Well, I I it's
Sunday. I got to go to mass." They took
me to mass there. So it was a a church.
It's on the street. This is not like
Saudi Arabia, okay, where you have to
take your life in hands and go to a
hotel room. This is a public building.
The church is on the street. There's a
cross on top of the church and that's
where I went to mass. So that's that's
what I was talking about in that
particular instance.
>> I had no idea. Okay, that was for my
rent. I I I wanted to um just highlight
here that when pe many people don't know
that our deep love and reverence for not
not only Jesus peace be upon him but
also his blessed mother Mary there's a
whole chapter in the Quran named after
his blessed mother Mary and you will
never see a Muslim saying any derogatory
thing about Jesus or Mary. So I thought
this is what I was reflecting over when
I saw you post this. I thought wow if
more Christians knew this you know the
reverence that Muslim have she's one of
the most honored women
>> uh to Muslims Mary.
So I went there and I'm trying to talk.
I want to talk to people because I think
that's what we're supposed to do as
human beings because that's reason. So I
went to the the m the mullers. I went
tow and I'm talking with the mullers
there and I'm trying to talk about sex
and is there a logos to sex and I am
getting I'll be honest I'm getting
nowhere with this guy. This guy is just
you can't talk to him. I' I've tried
many times. Anyway, so I got we take a
break. I go out onto the balcony and
then the other another mullet comes out
and meets with me and he says look he
said we're not we're not trying to
convert you. You're a you're a believer.
Uh we'd like to work with you. I said
good. He said we'll work for together
for peace until the return of the 12th
Imam when Jesus when he returns out of
the state of oultation
uh Jesus will be at his side. That's
what he told me. So I said good. That's
what I want to do. I want to work with
you because we are obviously being
thrown into battle. There's a group of
people that wants to use American
citizens as cannon fodder in wars for
Israel. And I don't want to be a part of
that. I don't want to be a part of that.
That's not in my interest and it's not
in the interest of the Iranian people.
So, I'm going to do everything I can to
prevent that from happening. We're now
once again in the middle of a a
psychological warfare attack on the
Iranian people. They are there are
Mossad agents there who are agitating
getting people to do things, blow things
up, trying to destabilize the government
because this has been their desire for a
long time. I've been Minuh is coming to
Washington for 20 years now trying to
persuade whoever is president to send
American troops to die for Israel in a
battle they can't win against Iran. Uh
in this final video, I want you to give
me your reaction to this. I find I found
it it's one thing when you're talking
your uh about your opinions outside of a
police uniform, but I would think that
you have some kind of policy because now
you're if you're speaking something in
with the police uniform, you're held to
a higher standard. So I wanted to get
your your response to this policeman
here.
>> Understand that Islam is public enemy
number one against Christ. Islam goes
against everything Christ teaches. I
don't care how this makes you feel. If
you're uncomfortable with this, that
just means you're uncomfortable with the
truth that Christ [music] came here to
teach. Islam does not worship God. Quote
unquote. Islam worships Satan. Look at
the Quran. Look at what they're
teaching. Look at what's going on in
Africa right now. They are killing these
people because that's what they're
supposed to do. [music] They are killing
Christians because that's what their
Quran tells them to do. That's what
Allah tells them to do. In their mind,
[music] them killing Christians is going
to get them 72 virgins in heaven. That's
what that's what we're dealing with
right now. You know, when I hear this as
a Muslim, uh, and a Muslim is simply one
when you translate the word, uh, someone
who submits his will to the will of God.
That's what a Muslim is. So, you know, I
don't want to have nor any Muslim, uh,
blood on their hands because that's one
of the first things you're going to be
held accountable for on the day of
judgment if you have innocent life on
your hands. So many Christians, I don't
know where they get this. There is
verses in the Quran that are in combat
verses, things in context of combat,
when you're fighting an enemy in combat.
But the default verse in the Quran and
this is not you know it's for any you
probably know this already doc Dr. Jones
but is chapter 60 verse8 where it says
God does not forbid you from dealing
kindly and justly with those who have
not fought you because of your religion
or driven you out of your homes. We'll
put this up. This is the covenant of Pro
Muhammad with the Christians and it
states they the Christians are my
citizens. I shall defend them against
any harm. No compulsion shall be on
them. Their churches shall not be
destroyed. It is my command that Muslims
protect them until the till the end
time. This is sealed by Prophet
Muhammad. So, uh there's So, now when
someone comes out like this, he's a
Christian obviously talking about
Muslims worship the devil. Every time we
recite the Quran, we seek refuge with
God from the cursed devil, you know, and
it it really um uh what are your
thoughts when you see a policeman in
uniform talking like this because he's
supposed to be upholding the
constitution. He's supposed to be
somebody who now is held to a higher
standard. But
>> okay, let's have a thought experiment
here. Suppose he said that suppose he
said that in uniform about
>> would he would he would he be unemployed
right now?
>> Are are you are you back to the double
standards uh conspiracy?
>> Is there a d there seems to be a double
standard here? Why do we have this
double standard?
>> You and all these you you and all these
double standards, Dr. Jones, what's
going [laughter]
>> this is obvious that you get away with
things that you can say these type of
things that's it's not not it's not true
it's not true so how do you get away
with doing this well I think there are
people who know that you can kind of
acquire privilege if you do what the
want they'll give you money and so on
and so forth we just had to uh uh Bishop
Baron Bishop Baron is not some yahoo
he's an educated guy he's a bishop of
the Catholic church in good standing and
he just launched into an incredibly
stupid attack on Iran. Why are you
blaming the victim here? Iran is the
victim of aggression, joint
Americanisraeli aggression. If you want
to know why they're demonstrating, it's
because of American sanctions that have
caused huge inflation and the people
don't have enough money to buy things to
eat now. and the the Mossad is there
deliberately agitating I this is
obviously a fact and here you've got a
bishop of the Catholic Church completely
accepting the narrative this is the kind
of crisis that we are facing right now
>> there's I mean go ahead that that's very
interesting a thought experiment just go
and watch this video again and anytime
where he says Islam put Judaism and put
Talmud in there for Quran replace it and
would he still have a job. That's very
interesting.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, what about the
scripture? Am I allowed to quote
scripture? I'm a Catholic. I believe in
God. I believe in the Bible and so on
and so forth. Uh, so I I meet this
graduate student at Notre Dame. She's
studying theology. So, I said to her,
"Who said that uh the are the people
that killed Christ and are enemies of
the entire human race?" Without missing
a beat, she said, "Adolf Hitler." I
said, 'N no, wait a minute. That's St.
Paul. St. Paul, remember him? You're
studying theology at Notre Dame
University. And you don't even know that
St. Paul says that because it's been
complete, this conflict between the who
accepted Jesus Christ as the Messiah and
the who killed them has been completely
erased from academic academ. So the
people don't even know uh their own
scriptures. This is this is part of the
problem here. When is uh Bishop Baron
going to talk about the Israeli
atrocities in Gaza? Why are you not
talking about that? Who who was the
person you just mentioned? Bishop who?
>> Bishop Baron. Robert Baron. He's like
the media bishop now. The media
Catholic. Uh so he he can give you you
know a relatively accurate understanding
of what the Catholic faith believes as
long as it doesn't have anything to do
with as soon as the enters the picture
everything uh is put on hold. So he did
an interview with uh Ben Shapiro and Ben
Shapiro is there well am I screwed?
That's what he said. He actually said am
I screwed? Am I going to hell now?
Bishop Baron dances around this thing
blah blah blah does there's one question
Ben if you ask me the question I'm a
Catholic bishop the first response is
are you baptized
have you been baptized if you refuse to
be baptized you cannot be saved okay now
there are other conditions you could
talk about but that's the fundamental
issue dealing with Ben he refused to say
that he refused to say that so he will
be be responsible for Ben Shapiro's
damnation at the end of his life because
he refused to preach the gospel. So,
it's okay to preach the gospel as long
as you don't say anything that offends a
special group of people. We got to put
an end, I'm going to say it again, to
this double standard. We got to end this
double standard. It's not American. It's
not Christian. It's not rational. And we
have to have a world where everybody
plays according to the same rules and
one group doesn't have this privilege to
be above the law. Whatever the law is,
whether it's murder, whether it's lying,
whatever it is, got to stop that. Last
question before we conclude. So in your
in your article, you talk about this
deliberate attempt now to shift
attention to a certain group of people,
i.e. the the Muslims Islam to kind of
because of what just happened in Gaza
because of what's happening there. And
your article talks about now this is
orchestrated. This is this is set up and
is funded to go ahead and create this
fear of Muslims and Islam. This is
deliberate.
>> It is deliberate. So I've already told
you I think that Jake Lang is working
with the FBI. I've already made my case
in that article. I'm I'm going
>> you me you me you mentioned in the
article the Sheldon group you mentioned
and others
so this is organized there is a um
>> no I think you're talking about uh the
Schillman
>> Schillman yeah
>> Shman Shelman Foundation Schillman
Foundation will fund anything as long as
you bash Muslims they'll give you money
for whatever you do and he's receiving
money Schillman Foundation yeah
>> why why the what's the agenda why
because the don't like They want to have
conflict. There aren't enough to get a
trash collector elected to pick up
trash. They never have enough people.
So, they always have to convince the
other group, the bigger group to carry
water for them to take their narrative.
That's what they have to do. That's what
they're doing here. That's why they have
to get the Catholics on board. They have
to they hire people. This Schillman uh
Schillman uh there's a poo called the
Pho.
They're funded by Paul Singer, the big
uh vulture capitalist, and they're hired
to attack people like me and say that
I'm not a good Catholic because I don't
support Israel or something like that.
It's there's money trailers all over the
place. You can follow this. This Pho
group claims to be Catholic. He got $5
million from Paul Singer and their job
was to attack Catholics who had get off
the uh the reservation. So these would
be the the the Zionists who are
orchestrating all of this.
>> Well, what all of what certainly Jake
Lang is being supported by a group of
people uh these people the Schillman
Foundation is giving him money to do
this.
>> So yeah, it is it is it is taking place.
I was when I was in Dallas,
okay, I had I'm a Knight of Columbus.
It's a fraternal organization for
Catholics. Signed a contract. They
violated my contract. I said, "Wait a
minute." So he the guy won't even talk
to me. This I'm a brother knight fell
and he won't even talk to me. The
Islamic Association of Irving, Texas
took me in, okay, right after that. And
so I gave my talk there. So I'm going
around to my fellow Catholics at the
October Fest. This is all the
conservative Catholics here. And I'm
saying, "Yeah, come come to my talk."
Oh, sure. Where is it? It's at the
Islamic Center. I'm not going there.
Well, wait a minute. What are you afraid
of?
>> Why won't you go there? Why? Yeah. Is it
like a contagious disease? Are you going
to contract Islam because you walk
inside the door? This is the type of
stupid bigotry that I've been trying to
deal with among Catholics.
>> Dr. Jones, thank you for uh being with
us again.
>> You're welcome. Always a pleasure to
talk to you.
>> Take care. God bless.