Do you support what Jake would say?
>> No, absolutely not. I'm completely
against what you're saying.
>> So why were you
>> I'm a Muslim. I don't
>> and rely on state assistance and welfare
programs to feed and house their massive
family.
>> I will say this. There is a Muslim
content creator.
>> He's a Zionist.
>> Muslims in Sweden destroy an outdoor
chess board.
>> When Alex Jones posts about Muslims, if
not all of his posts are just fake news.
>> Women have seven kids on average. It's
one of the fastest growing towns in
America. called for the tour down there.
>> He was he went to the Israel and they do
promote a lot of Zionist positions and
anti-Islam positions
>> now that he's on Qatar's payroll they're
saying and whatnot. Had everything set
up for I really wanted Dan to visit
Bosnia. I had everything set up for you
guys.
>> I'm sorry we couldn't make it happen. I
was
>> made himself out like the victim caused
a commotion and
>> and there is this directed colluded
intentional attack on either demonizing
Muslims. But what's worse about him is
according to Islamic esquetology in
terms of what's going to happen in the
end times.
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angels.
>> Greetings of peace. We have an exciting
show for you today. Before I introduce
my two guests, let's play this video of
a Muslim who saved the Quran burner.
Liar lang.
>> I I don't want anybody to get hurt.
Nobody.
>> You don't understand. Muslim people, we
love this nation. We absolutely love
this nation. All right? We might be
against the foreign policies that the
United States conducts, right? But just
like I love my mother and father, if
they were to go into war with their
neighbors, I would not support that.
Doesn't mean that I don't love them
fundamentally, intrinsically, all of
that.
>> I do not want that to happen.
>> Do you support Do you support what Jake
was saying?
>> No, absolutely not. I'm completely
against what you're saying.
>> So why were you
>> I'm a Muslim. I don't
>> Because we have to protect each other.
We shouldn't get to this point, guys. I
got to go and help him out.
>> I have to actually
>> Wow. Assalam alalaykum.
>> Asalam. Thank you for having me.
>> Nice to see you, brother. So I have uh
here to my left I have two of my guests
Sullean Ahmed as one of the biggest news
channels on Elon Mus X and we have the
Muslim attorney from Muslim legal and
peace activist Hassan Shibli. Helen,
>> how you brothers doing?
>> Great. Thanks for having us. Appreciate
it.
>> You're welcome. Nice to have you
brothers here. Nice to see you in
person. We we've had a program before.
>> Yeah.
>> Nice to meet you in person. The video,
what do you think? Well, I think there's
a a couple of interesting points. First
of all, I think it's great that uh the
Muslim guy helped him and it just
demonstrates the kind of character that
one should display when in these type of
scenarios because Jake Lang basically
relies on causing as much havoc as
possible and then monetizing that havoc
or using it for virality in order to
basically get the public to see what
he's doing. And I interviewed a number
of his friends from Jan 6 and one of
what what what all of them said was that
or largely quite a lot of them said was
that what Jake Lang does is first of all
he's someone who on Jan 6 was one of the
more more violent people on that day and
many of them believe that the actions
that happened to them in terms of the
abuse that the state department did
against them was because of people like
Jake Lang because Jake Lang was somebody
who even he admitted it to me on my when
I interviewed him interviewed who slash
debated him which was he said that he
used a baseball bat and did use the
baseball bat on around eight uh capital
police members in uh Washington DC. And
so what he does is he puts himself in
these situations. This is what they told
me in order to basically get verality
and then to get fundraising. And so it's
kind of like a mode he's been using
since Jan 6 over and over again. And
you've seen that recently in terms of
many of these kind of marches he's been
doing where he's done the marches. He's
tried to agitate people and then to fund
raise off of off of those agitations.
>> That's exactly what he did here. He
showed up here at our event. We had a
gratitude to God event live streamed. He
made a video made himself out like the
victim caused a commotion and he's like,
"Send me some money." The end.
>> Exactly. Exactly.
>> What are your thoughts?
>> No, I mean that's exactly what these
people are driven by. So you have to
understand that in the current uh
environment that we're in, what is
driving people? And I think Sulleman hit
the nail on the head. This is about the
attention economy. He's trying to get uh
viewers. He's trying to get financial
support. He's trying to cause disruption
that will give him attention. This isn't
driven by a sincere desire to protect
America or to bring Americans together.
I mean, Jake Lang, I actually messaged
him. I said, "Listen, why don't we come
and meet off the record, have
conversations, see if you're genuine
about protecting American liberty and
freedom and values and even Christian
values. Let's let's have a
conversation." And he refused. What he'd
rather do is create noise, create chaos,
create divisiveness because that's how
he gets attention. And attention is how
you get money. And this is the truth.
Most people are not driven by a sincere
desire to protect their country or to
serve God. They're driven by their own
self-interest and their ego. And I think
we need to come uh and be united against
that.
>> But you actually got a response from
him. So much so that you guys had a
debate, isn't it? And you you actually
exposed him for being an agent. How did
you come to that conclusion?
>> Yeah, basically um in terms of being an
agent, I do think that he is someone who
is a provocator. And what the what I
demonstrated in the debate was because
he'd went to the whailing wall. He's a
Jewish Zionist. Um and his ethnicity is
and he went to the whailing wall. He
sorry he went to the Whailing Wall. He
um you know did his pilgrimage. And
what's interesting is when that was
exposed on social media, he tried to
make the claim that look this was 10
years ago. My grandma pre pressured me
into doing it. It's not really who I am.
But then I found a tweet where he posted
the tweet on Janu June the 13th or 14th.
And he actually has this video of him on
the whailing wall on June 14th. This is
only 6 months ago. It's during the war
between Israel and Iran. The war is
between Israel and Iran. It starts on
June the 13th. I believe he posted it on
either the June the 13th or June the
14th. The United States of America was
not involved in that war at that time in
terms of from an offensive perspective.
And what he said is he wants to join the
army. He wants to join the war. He wants
America to join the war. And what that
demonstrated was that he actually wanted
American troops to sacrifice their lives
for a for the foreign nation of Israel.
And so his entire claim that he's not
Israel first or he's doing it for the
United States of America was exposed via
that tweet. And so that was one example.
Another example is if you um you you I
mean you will be aware he went to
Debborn, Michigan with Cam Higgby and a
few others, Lance Videos and a few other
people. Now what's interesting about
that is Cam Higgby and that Lance videos
I believe but definitely Cam Higgby Cam
>> Hig Cam Higgby is another reporter who
kind of went with Jake Lang to uh
Dearborn Michigan to agitate Muslims in
Debborg Michigan. He also went or he was
in I believe Minneapolis as well.
>> That's not the Nick Shirley the Mormon
missionary.
>> It's not Nick Shirley. Yeah. Although
Nick Shirley was also someone who went
to Israel on his Israel to we can talk
about that in a bit as well. But in ter
in terms of Cam Higgby, he went on the
Israeli tour. He went to do propaganda
for Israel. He went and lied about the
fact that there was aid go he claimed
that there was aid coming into Gaza when
there wasn't. And so it's what's what's
important and what's interesting is why
is it this individual called called Jake
Long who goes to the Whailing Wall who's
who is very pro-Israel who wants
American troops to go to war for Israel
is also going with Cam Higgby to Daybomb
Michigan. Kibby is invited to this
Israeli propaganda tour in Israel where
they're lying about food going into Gaza
and all of these are working and
colluding together to go to Debon
Michigan in order to demonize Muslims in
that community when that community
specifically when you look at the crime
rate is is lower than anywhere else in
Michigan. It's low and and so it what it
demonstrates is it's not about crime.
It's not about anything other than the
fact that these people are Muslims. And
so he's intentionally in my view
inciting in inciting this hatred between
Muslims and Christians or Muslims and
Americans like American Christians in
order to cause division between the two.
And the reason for that is sorry I'm g a
bit long but let me explain this last
point is because as you know everyone
has seen over the last three years the
in real time people have lost lives men
women and children it's been one of the
most horrific things and the vi the
entire world has turned against Israel
and the United States of America which
is Israel's closest ally has also turned
against Israel the recent polling shows
the majority of Americans are against
Israel and for under 30 year olds it's
almost 75%. And for under 50 year olds,
it's almost 64%.
So what that and that's and it's
majority of Republicans and majority of
Democrats. So what that tells and so
what the Israeli embassy or the Isra
Israel realizes that we need to change
the narrative and so they did polling
and and an NGO put together a study
where they tried to find out what's the
best way to change the sentiment about
Israel. And what they found is that
actually people are not not going to
change their mind when it comes to the
issue of Palestine. And what the study
showed is that the best way to deal with
this issue is to make uh to prop
propagate and promote anti-Muslim
propaganda because that's the easiest
way to redirect attention. And so since
then you've seen a massive push on
hatred and attacks on Muslims by people
like Jake Lang as you said by people
like Cam Higgby uh and you look at
Dearborn Michigan you saw as you said
Nikki Nikki Nick Shirley who went to um
Minnesota and then also people like Alex
Jones and various others and this is
this directed colluded intentional
attack on Muslims in order to frame them
as the other and then to redirect
attention and make people make people
start believing that actually Zionists
or Zionists are very similar to Muslims.
Like both are a problem for us and
they've basically started that narrative
and they've been very successful on it
over the last couple of months.
>> You've been to Dearbornne, right?
>> Yep.
>> And you know who else been was at
Dearbornne? Someone who also fell for
the for the hate propaganda. He's
running for governor Anthony Hudson.
>> And didn't he when he went there, he ate
with Muslims, sat with Muslims, he was
in a mosque, and he said this is all
lies.
>> Exactly.
>> And they were kind of he was on a kind
of the same almost there with Jake. But
then he didn't then he turned his his uh
thinking around. He said he was calling
this out. He said these are lies. But
this liar lane continued pressing with
the with the lies. But this other man he
actually he um changed his tune.
>> You hit the nail on the head because he
and Jake were meant to go to Debborn
together.
>> Together. Right.
>> Right. They he actually was they were
meant to go together and as you said
quite correctly I believe he's a truck
driver. He goes to Dearborn Michigan. He
goes to a number of mosques. They show
him a lot of love that he speaks to the
community and he's like, "Oh my god,
this is completely opposite to what I
believed. I believe that there was
Sharia law happening in Dearborn,
Michigan." And it's nothing like that.
And so when Jake Lang comes, first of
all, he attacks his boss. And in
addition to that, he attacks Hudson as
well. And he actually calls him he calls
him a traitor. He calls him a white
fraud. And again, he just demonstrated
and displayed anti-white hatred. And I'm
talking about Jake Lang towards Anthony
Hudson. Jerk Lag being obviously an
Ashkanazi individual.
>> So you've been there to uh Dearbornne.
What are your thoughts when you see all
of this?
>> I mean well Dearborn's a great
community. A lot of good food.
Mashallah. But you know what's
interesting with Jake Lang is I recently
saw him purportedly doing a protest on
Apac. Was that have you seen that? And
was that accurate? Is he trying to
overcompensate? What are your thoughts
on that?
>> So that came about because of my debate
with him and he was like, "Oh, I'm going
to go to Apac as well." But if you look
at it, first of all, it was propaganda
because he didn't push it as hard as the
rest. And if you look at what he did
when he went to the Muslim, and I asked
him this, I said, "Are you going to
throw bacon at a synagogue?" And he
started laughing cuz he knew he wasn't
going to do that because
>> bacon is impermissible in Judaism as it
is impermissible in Islam. So
>> culture, same thing.
>> Exactly. Exactly. The mode of sacrifice
is very similar. And so if he's throwing
bacon in uh what you call it in the
mosques or he's attacking he's bringing
the pig pig's head and putting it in
within the Quran. Why did he not display
the same type of behavior when he went
to the AP pack conference? Instead he
threw some pennies or whatever but
that's very minor compared to his
actions and it show he did it in order
to show that he's not just against
Muslims but in reality if you look at
his overt impact or his overt effect or
what he tried to do it's very minimal
compared to what he did against the
Muslim communities. Let's go back to
this video that we just saw. This is a
Muslim saving the Quran burner's life.
And this is um interesting. This Cam H
was it Cam? Higgby.
>> Yeah.
>> He says, I will say this. There is a
Muslim content creator. I don't know his
name, who basically saved Jake Lane's
life today. So he's independent
journalist, this guy.
>> Well, he's a Zionist journalist. I mean,
I give him credit for being honest about
that.
>> I I was surprised that he's actually
reporting on this. So he said he
basically saved Jake Lang's life today.
He helped him escape and tried to
deescalate. He recognized me last night
at the federal building and didn't alert
anyone. In another post, he says,
"Here's the same guy I mentioned earlier
using his body to shield Lang. This is
just before someone on the ledge kicks
him." So, what do you I mean, this is a
Muslim now who saved his life. Does he
think I mean, and this is obviously a
Muslim practices Islam. you think the
opposite that the Muslims going to go
ahead and try to kill him and whatnot,
but I mean
>> and exactly and and what that entire
event showed is that actually obviously
there were people who were aggressive
and really what's interesting is
normally in protest this definitely
happens in the UK and I've been told it
happens in the United States of America
when you have a protest and you have a
counter protest what happens is the
police coordin both off and that happens
both in protest and in like football
games or sports games and the reason is
because when fans get together in
football games in soccer games or if um
protesters get together does end up
being a bit of aggression. So they were
aware that Jake Lang was going to do
this protest. So there should have been
a quad enough. So it's a bit strange
that they didn't do that. That being
said, you're quite right. I mean it in
the event it was a Muslim guy who saved
him in the sense of from further
aggression that he got him out of the
situation. He helped him and supported
him and and the same thing as you know
happened in Bondi as well. If you
remember Bondi was going to be
propagandized and they end up being a
Muslim guy who end up um apprehending
the asylum. In addition to that, funny
enough, when he escapes Jake Lang, it's
actually a transgender person who
actually helps him get he gets into a
transgender person's car who also had
him helps him get out of the situation.
Obviously, when when that person finds
out who he is, threw him out of the car
one block later. So, it's like ironic
that the people he was trying to
demonize at that event, whether it was
Muslim, whether it was transgender,
whomever it was, were the people who
helped him get out of the situation.
You're quite right. I want to show you
guys his next video and I want to then I
want to talk a little bit about Nick
Shirley and also the liar laying. Are
they going to have the same enthusiasm
to go ahead because this uh Nick is
going around uh just conveniently in
Muslim or certain communities and
exposing things. But there was also
another community that was exposed for
some stuff. Let's watch this and see if
they're going to be consistent
>> while being a student.
>> God help me.
>> Does the American taxpayer help you too?
>> Oh, so yes. This is Curious Joel, a
village of 44,000 acidic Jews in upstate
New York that primarily speak Yiddish.
Women have seven kids on average. It's
one of the fastest growing towns in
America with many men religiously
studying the Torah full-time and rely on
state assistance and welfare programs to
feed and house their massive families.
How many kids do you have? Seven.
>> Seven. How do people afford to have so
many kids here?
>> They don't afford. We help each other.
We open two groceries called MIT. We're
giving them 50% discount
>> by how many kids per family? 10.
>> Have you seen this viral video that went
out?
>> I watched the documentary.
>> You think Nick's going to be over there
and um The Liar Lang? They're going to
go visit them.
>> Exactly. And I think you you basically
highlighted an important thing that
basically they highlighted the fraud
that happened in Minnesota. Now, some of
those were debunked, but that being
said, obviously there will be some
legitimate fraud that occurred. But the
specific targeting of the Somali
community is because of two reasons.
There's easy prey. First thing is
because they're Muslim. The second thing
is because they are black and therefore
you're able to demonize them very easily
amongst the public. And you're quite
right basically Tyler Olivera went to
the Hida community in New York and
demonstrated not only high levels of
like welfare manipulation but also on
top of that he said in that specific
documentary that for white people to try
and get an apartment to rent in that
area is not possible. So it definitely
is an enclave. is specifically is an
enclave based on values, tradition, law.
And that's and that just demonstrates
the hypocrisy that it's not. And by the
way, not only that, none of the people
who tweeted out Nick Shirley's video cuz
it got 112 million views, people like
Elon Musk, various others, none of them
quote this video, which demonstrates
it's not really about welfare because if
it was, you would tweet both of them. In
addition to that, I actually
demonstrated myself separate to this one
in New York, not not just the
ultraorththodox community, but the
actual orthodox community have committed
billions upon billions of dollars of
fraud. And yet, no one has spoken about
it. And so, once again, what that
demonstrates is it's not really about
fraud. It's specifically a direct attack
on Muslims to demonize them. And so, to
answer your question, no, Nick Shirley
will not be going there. you won't be
going to New York and none of these
influencers whether it's Bill Aman,
Shawn Maguire, Elon Musk, uh the and
various others, none of them will quote
tweet these videos and none of them will
highlight or say it's the problem. The
aim is only one reason, propaganda
against the Muslim community.
>> Your thoughts?
>> Yeah, I mean, look, you can't engage in
fear-mongering and hysteria and hatred
against the Muslim community to the
exclusion of others without engaging
double standards and taking things out
of context. And that's exactly what they
do. They selectively apply their outrage
to promote fear and hate of Muslims as
Sleman said because they realize America
is waking up to the influence of
Zionists and and extremists on American
politics. And the only way to shift the
conversation away from that is to
demonize the Muslim community that is
less than a percent of the American
population that doesn't really have
effectively any solid political
influence in this country. Meanwhile,
it's the Zionists that are pumping
billions of dollars of American taxpayer
money into Israel so that it can
children at at no benefit to this
country. And it's very interesting. I
mean, you saw the recent post with with
Miriam Adlesen and and or when she was
asked, you know, how do you besides
spending money, how do you achieve
influence in politics? and she refused
to answer that question, you know, and
then you remember what's what happened
with Epstein and they still have not
released the Epstein files because
they're too busy protecting pedophiles
because this is exactly how they uh
garner uh power and influence in the US
in a way that's against the people uh
the the interest of the American people.
It's by using their money or
blackmailing. and they want to make
these scops of distraction, hate against
the Muslim community to distract from
that. And it's a clear double standard.
Look, in every religious community,
you'll have, you know, people that are
on welfare, some people that
legitimately need it, some people that
are taking advantage of the system. You
have people that commit crimes. You have
people that are good and that are bad.
That's that that that doesn't mean
anything. You know what I'm saying? But
the selective outrage is just to further
their agenda to distract from the threat
that Israeli influence has on America at
the expense of the American people.
>> Besides what we know about this Nick
Shirley, I found out he's a Mormon
missionary, what I understood, YouTuber,
but all of a sudden he's like some top
uh, you know, independent journalist.
They're bringing them all out, you know,
on the PBD, on this podcast, that one.
Like who who is this guy? But you just
mentioned something I didn't know that
he actually he was also uh called for
the tour down there.
>> He was he went to the Israel tour. He
did propaganda again.
>> This is interesting, huh?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Again, all it's it's just
they're all linked, right? He goes to
the Israel tour.
>> He does propaganda for Israel. He lies
about what's happening.
>> You know who he's talking about?
>> Oh, tell me. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Nick Shirley, he's basically he's
he's become viral very recently. And
you're right, he's a Mormon. And if
there's anything and something we've
been highlighting is if you look at
Mormons, they have a huge influence in
terms of politically. But in addition to
that, because remember a lot of people
within TPUSA are Mormons or connected to
Mormons. In addition to that, if there's
any, if you know the history of the
Mormons, the Mormons are deeply
connected to intelligence, both American
intelligence and Israeli intelligence.
They have a long history within the CIA,
Mossad, and FBI. Now the early reasons
for that was is the claim was these
people don't drink, they don't smoke,
they don't do alcohol. They're very
strict religiously and therefore they
become the perfect people to be agents
because they're not able to be
misdirected. But what happens then is
because the Mormon community itself is
very much linked to these intelligence
agencies. And so someone like Nicki Nick
Shirley who when one listens to him,
he's not very articulate. He's been
thrust into this position. He goes to
the Israel propaganda tour. If you
remember, there was a video that came
out where he did the same thing in
Ukraine and then someone exposed him
like someone spoke to him and exposed
him. He was like given some very vague
answers for the reason why he lied about
what was happening in Ukraine. So that
being said, coming back to it, yeah,
there is a major issues when it comes to
the connection the Mormon uh Mormon
community and if you know like for
example one of the conspiracy theories
in related to Charlie Kirk is that the
there was some Mormon Israeli connection
in relation to that because you had
basically the shooter Tyler Robinson who
was a Mormon. You had Lance Twigs who
was a Mormon. You had the guy George
Zinn who did who basically misdirected
everybody who was a Mormon. You had a
large number of Mormons involved. And so
the Mormon connection is extremely
interesting. Nick Shirley being a Mormon
is extremely interesting. And then him
going to Israel again adds to our
argument about all of these things. It's
almost like a wellrounded situation.
>> Mhm. That'd be an interesting person. I
invited him to come on and talk because
you see him anywhere where Jake the Liar
Lang was at. He's there. He was there.
He's uh on the scene. But it's very
interesting now if he's going to be
consistent and go ahead and show up in
New York. And
>> they never are. They're never
consistent. What's also very
interesting, you mentioned TPUSA. I was
just reading how Ben Shapiro apparently
donated a million dollars to TPUSA. Did
you did you come across that?
>> Yeah. Yeah, he did. I mean, the reason
he did that was to buy a seat. So, what
happened with TPUSA was for a number of
years Ben Shapiro was never invited to
TPUsa events. And the reason for that is
Charlie Kirk didn't like Ben Shapiro.
So, what Ben Shapiro did is somehow
despite Daily Wire being a lossmaking,
despite the fact that Daily Wire's
viewership being extremely low, they
have a lot of funding. I wonder where
that funding's coming from. One can just
speculate where that could be.
>> We got to talk about that afterwards,
but go ahead.
>> But that being said, um, but that being
said, um, he was able to get this
funding. He then paid TPUSA this money
and essentially was able to then get a
seat at the event, the previous one and
this one in order to speak. And so
that's where the funding really comes
from. And therefore he did he recently
donated another million dollars kind of
on the same basis to get his foothold
within TPUSA because he was someone who
was basically shunned from that
organization.
>> And you know I I'm glad we highlighted
this cuz this is the problem right now
with the American Muslim community and
that is that our billionaires and
megaillionaires simply are not investing
the funds to achieve influence. And
we're not talking about doing it in the
corrupt way like the Zionist lobby does.
We're talking about the very basic, you
know, in in that community, you have
people like Laura Loomer, Ben Shapiro,
others, and they get funding from their
billionaires. Meanwhile, on our side,
those that are speaking out, those that
are pushing uh the the dialogue and the
conversation towards peace, justice,
human rights, we have to fund ourselves.
You know, we we don't have any support
and funding. And I think until the
American Muslim community wakes up and
starts investing in protecting justice
and liberty and and shaping the
narrative in a positive, constructive
way as the opposition is, uh, I I don't
think we have any reason to complain
because they're getting what they pay
for. You get what you pay for.
>> Well, we do the opposite. We basically
have to sacrifice in order to basically
speak the truth.
>> I want to get your guys' reaction to
this. It seems like uh not only has it
been turned up on X all over social
media, you can get into that, but this
person here, he seemed like he was um
reporting on some truths and that, but
it seems like you're very familiar with
Alex Jones.
>> Yes.
>> And I just went back cuz he's also
popping up in my timeline. And then I
just saw this recent po this post. This
is from today. Uh this post and this
video he's retweeting Tom this guy
Tommy. That's not even his real name,
right? What's his
>> Tommy Robinson? Yeah.
>> What's his real name? His name is Steven
Alaxi something I can't reason now.
>> Yeah. So he said Muslims in Sweden
destroy an outdoor chess board as it's
considered haram. And then Alex Jones
retweets I say Islam is haram. Let's
watch this video and then get your
reaction.
What does that do? What what kind of
precedence is that that put out there
for the people that Muslims are
irrational? They're crazy. They're just,
you know, trying they they um What are
your thoughts when you see that?
>> So, this is just a demonstration of who
Alex Jones is. Alex Jones purports to be
a reporter. Now, look, when we post the
news, I promote I post like hundreds of
tweets a day. There's possible you can
make an error, right? And what you'll do
is delete the error, retract it. When he
when Alex Jones
>> What the hell is this?
>> Yeah. Well, when Alex Jones posts about
Muslims, I would say 80 to 90% if not
all of his posts are just fake news and
propaganda. So, that specific video that
you're referring to is actually I
believe the person is not even a Muslim,
I believe. But what it is is a comedy se
sketch.
>> It's a comedy sketch.
>> Yeah, it's a comedy sketch from 2021, I
believe. I could get the year wrong.
Wow.
>> And it's a comedy sketch. It has nothing
to do with Islam. It has nothing to do
with Islam Muslims believing that chess
is haram or whatever it may be. This is
an individual. He's a comedian, a
well-known comedian who is basically
doing a comedy sketch. And I believe
he's not a Muslim as well, but that one
don't quote me on cuz I'm not 100% cuz I
had a quick read of it earlier on today.
>> And so, cuz I looked it up. So, whenever
Alex Jones post something, I look up I
look it up because almost all the time
it's fake news.
>> Another example.
>> So, this is another example of fake
news. And another like and I can I can
give you a number of tweets just from
the top of my head of Alex Jones pushing
that. A recent example was when there
was a Christmas tree in Egypt and what
happened was the video showed some kids
climbing up the tree and taking and
throwing the presents off. He said, "Oh
my god, Muslims are attacking Christmas
trees and they and this is because they
don't like Christmas." And in reality,
it was the opposite. What was happening
was Egypt was celebrating Christmas more
better than anybody else. Um part of the
tradition within that specific Coptic
community is that the children Christian
children who are Egyptian climb the tree
and the presents that are there. They're
able to take the presents for
themselves. It's kind of like a reward
that they get. And he displayed it as
can be completely the opposite. So
that's another example like I can just
give you so many examples. There's a
woman who has like mental health issues
and she's screaming and he says, "Oh,
this is Islam." When in reality it's
just a person with mental health issues.
We can give when it comes to Alex Jones,
we can give example after example after
example of either demonizing Muslims,
but what's worse about him is it's not
just the demonization of Muslims. He's
doing it based on actual false videos
and fake news. And it's just the same
thing linked to the foreign ministry
that this guy gets activated and he
basically again attacks Islam
ferociously and with my direction based
on I believe that people who have
directed him to do so. and he's an
example of someone who's afraid to
basically have a conversation with
someone like me because he'll get
exposed in terms of a lot of these
propaganda points that he does and so
therefore he's able to push that and I
do believe that he's been directed to do
so. Have you have you guys been on the
same panel before at all on any X panels
with
>> I've been on an X ex panel with him and
ironically at that time I'm the one who
organized his return back to X in terms
of the X space and so you know I helped
organize the space. I helped get a lot
of the guests you know to come on the
space to kind of give him like almost
like a warm welcome back to X. But when
I look at the direction that he's gone
in the demonization of the Muslims and
likely
>> he wasn't this bad before, right?
>> He wasn't this bad before. And what's
worse about it is I believe that his
court case when it comes to Sandy Hook
obviously he he lost a billion dollar uh
lawsuit or the law he and so what
happened is his company is almost about
to be shut down and when you're in that
situation in order to continue operating
you're going to have to make a deal or a
number of deals with the devils and I
think that's what's happened with him.
>> How's Dan? You guys have had a lot of
panels with Dan Bazer. recently um in
France and and
>> yeah he attended my he attended my gym
on we went to Dubai last year not last
year actually end of 2024 we went to
Dubai and Katar together it was a
self-paid trip nobody sponsored us um
and then yeah when I visited Vegas a
couple months back he attended my Juma
and you know I think uh he's a great
example of an American who's willing to
sacrifice everything to speak out
against injustice and speak out against
the Zionist uh extremist Israeli
influence over America and to speak out
against the and I mean he's really
frustrated and disappointed with the
global Muslim community. He's constantly
asks why do you not speak out as a
community? Why do you do your
billionaires not speak out? Why do your
leaders not speak out? Yes, he sees the
people, the masses in the streets
speaking out, but the people of power,
wealth, influence, uh he's very
disappointed that they are not making
the sacrifice that he's making. I mean,
I personally saw the tens of millions of
dollars in contracts and and financial
opportunities and situations that he's
lost because he's speaking out uh
against the Israeli influence over
America. And uh you know, I I think uh
we have a lot to learn from those
examples.
>> I had everything set up for I really
wanted Dan to visit Bosnia. I had
everything set up for you guys.
>> I'm sorry we couldn't make it happen. I
was we were hoping we we could make it
happen. So,
>> I hope hope if he if he sees this, he
can uh make a plan. And if you guys
something happens again Bosnjak, I want
really want him I was telling him about
Bosnia. You still haven't been there,
right?
>> We got to go, bro. I'm ready.
>> You guys are really going to enjoy it.
Hopefully Dan comes down. Really? It's
the Jerusalem of Europe. B is so much
history there
>> in Bosnia. Tell me, you've been on
panels, a lot of panels with um Dan
Bazerian.
>> Yeah, he's a great guy. He's um very
much on it. I would say like a lot of
people end up falling for the propaganda
that the designers try and perpetuate
because what they try to do is make it
black we white Muslim versus non-Muslim
um what you call it leftwing versus
right-wing and the reason for that is
because they want the um goyam they want
the gentiles to fight amongst each other
yes
>> the working class to fight amongst each
other while they rule over everyone and
so he's someone as an example who never
falls for it he never falls for the
propaganda he never falls for the SCOP
and the reason they want to do that is
because they want people to fight
amongst themselves and then bring in
like a mass surveillance state through
Palanteer which is again another company
or to put bring in social credit within
the United States of America and UK and
so he is someone that I have a huge
amount of respect for um within the
political sphere who never falls for the
propaganda who always realizes that
things are more bigger things are more
holistic I never ever fall for the trap
so yeah I have a huge amount of respect
for Dan Bzarian who's is always on my
panel and I really appreciate him. I
respect him a lot.
>> What are people saying? Because there's
the video the videos that have gone out
seeing him reading the Quran now that
he's on Qatar's payroll they're saying
and whatnot.
>> Yeah. I mean I again I was the one who
helped facilitate that trip and we we
all paid for that out of pocket. No one
no one paid for us and no one no one uh
paid us uh to be there. But I mean again
>> you see how things get twisted right
away.
>> Exactly. Exactly. And and I think with
with Dan what really you know struck me
is you know when I first spoke with him
he said you know um I just want to be a
force for good in the world. You know
that my my life
>> I just want to be
>> a force for good in the world. My life
of hedenism didn't bring
>> happiness
>> didn't bring happiness. You know I left
empty. And and I think that's a great
example. He's someone who lived the life
doing everything that a young secular uh
you know materialistic person may dream
of right. the best yachts, the the most
beautiful women, the private jets, the
gambling, the partying, the drugs. And
he said, "Didn't bring me happiness."
You know, there's more to life than
that.
>> Can I ask you about that family or is
that
>> uh which family?
>> That family that accepted Islam.
>> Oh, yeah. In mah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One
of his close friends actually. Uh one of
his uh friends from a long time ago. Uh
I met him while we were playing
paintball at Dan's house in Vegas.
>> And turned out he and his wife both
wanted to take shahada. So the next time
we we visited, they actually took
shahada in Dan's house. Alhamdulillah.
>> Amazing, huh? What did What did Dan say
about that?
>> Yeah. No, I mean, alhamdulillah, he he
gave us the space and welcomed us to to
to have that ceremony in the house. I
mean, look, but Dan's issue with with
the Muslim community uh right now is he
says, "Listen, if you all really believe
in your faith in your book,
>> why aren't you willing to make the
sacrifice necessary to stand against
evil?"
>> Yeah. you know, why do do two billion of
you let your brothers and sisters in get
slaughtered and you're unable to do
anything about it? So, you know, again,
uh I think we we have a lot of work to
do internally as a Muslim community. Th
those are valid points and the prophet
sallallam addressed this, right? He said
that the time will come when nations
will just cut you up and divide you, you
know, as people divide food over the
table spread. And they said, "Will we be
few in number?" And he said, "No, but
you'll be like you'll be many like the
foam on the sea." But the foam on the
sea, it's it's vast, but it has no
power, no ability. And they said, "Why?"
When love of this material world and
hatred of death. And so when you love
this material world so much, you're not
willing to speak out and challenge the
power structures. And you see the
funding, you see the the adal sins, you
see the power and the wealth that is
being organized to support this evil.
And people realize that if I speak out,
I may get demonetized, you And I think,
you know, Sullean,
don't kill me for saying this, but I
know this man and how much sacrifice
he's made, right, to speak out against
uh what Israel is doing. I know the tens
of millions of dollars that he lost by
speaking out, you know, and he literally
him and many people like him have had
choices. You could stay quiet and keep
making the money you're you're making.
You could switch sides and make 10x
that. Or you can sacrifice everything
just to speak out. And ultimately,
you're only willing to speak out like
that when you truly believe this world
is just a test. This isn't our real
home. Gold and wealth and silver and
name and power. It's meaningless. We all
have to answer to God. And Gaza is a
test not for the people of Gaza. They've
already pass the test. Inshallah. Heaven
is for them. God willing. Gaza is God's
test for all of humanity to see are we
willing to allow are we willing to stay
quiet just to protect our careers and
our job and our wealth or are we willing
to sacrifice everything to speak truth
to power to achieve God's pleasure and
make the world better. That's what we're
here to do.
>> Absolutely. Tell me, I was uh I was kind
of surprised that this conservative
podcast news commentator that he he
actually allowed a Muslim to come on and
that was you, Tim P, right?
>> Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
>> How did that happen and how did it go?
>> I think it went really well.
>> These conversations like that need to
happen.
>> It's very important and I think the
reason they end up liking me is cuz I'm
not like this like traditional da bro
type tribe. I'm very much politically uh
savvy and so um and I do have a lot of
friends within the like right-wing
circles who disagree with me
politically, but like we disagree,
right? But we're all humans. We respect
all humans. This is what our religion
teaches us. like we have the utmost
character and I try and demonstrate that
in terms of the way I act or interact
with people and even though I may
vehemently disagree with these people
which I do I think it's always an
important avenue to be able to relay
what you believe is the reality of the
situation and Tim is a very huge podcast
and they do promote a lot of Zionist
positions and anti-Islam positions and
therefore when one is given an
opportunity to do so you need to
basically take that opportunity so yeah
I went on a couple of episodes on that
the first episode was essentially a
debate and it was whether Islam is
compatible with the West. Now, a lot of
people kind of deal with this issue and
they'll try and dunk on other religions
or whatever it may be. But my
perspective on this is very simple. Um,
when it comes to Islam, when it comes to
Christianity, when it comes to Judaism,
the reality is this. All of those
religions have conservative positions.
All of those positions have
disagreements with a number of liberal
war positions.
And also when you look at Islam itself,
there's no single issue that you will
find in Islam that isn't more stricter,
more harsher and more punishable in the
other religions. And I say that to say
this as an example, the two main issues
kind of in this liberal society they
talk about is homosexuality and
feminism. And if of course it is a those
things are a sin in Islam and also not
permissible. That being said, there is
no doubt that when you look at both of
those issues and any other issue, you'll
always find it a lot more stricter in
those other two religions. And so
therefore, when they said Islam is not
compatible, and this is what the my
point on in that debate was in which
aspect is not compatible because and
then whenever they come up with those
issues or they come up with Sharia law,
you always find that it's actually not
the case. So for example, let's take
Sharia law, which is one of the points
they always make like they want to bring
Sharia law into the country. When I ask
them what do you mean by they want to
bring Sharia law into the country
because there's certain aspects of
Sharia law for example fasting giving
charity praying which is just an
internal issue. It's not a Sharia law in
terms of a government legalistic issue.
So what aspects of Sharia law are coming
into the United States of America or the
UK and they're never able to explain it.
They're like they're going to take over.
Now the problem with that is is first of
all one aspect we've already dealt with
which is these enclaves we there's
already enclaves of other religions and
there's no issue but that being said
separate to that in the United States of
America the constitution reigns supreme
over any other religious law and that's
either it's law of the Jews whether it's
Sharia law of the Muslims or even
Christian law of um of Christians it's
the constitution that reigns supreme but
in the entire history of the United
States of America
There's never ever been a situation
where something a judgment that's made
whether it's in a small little Sharia
council because Sharia council is almost
like a council where they'll try and do
you know try and mit you know do
mediation of marriage situations but
that never supersedes the law of the
country they have the exact same thing
in the United States and in the United
Kingdom
>> same thing
>> same thing but you know what's
interesting there has been one situation
where the law of a religion has
superseded the law of the country.
>> Do you know what that was?
>> That was from the Judaism.
>> It was it was a case called a victus
versus a victim versus a victim.
>> I heard of that. Yeah. Yeah. And it was
when law had superseded the the
basically American law. But that's never
ever happened in terms of Sharia law and
remain and remained as a judgment. And
so this entire notion that's created is
actually propaganda. And all we ask for,
whether you're a Muslim, whether you're
a Christian, whether you're a man,
whether you're black, brown, white, or
yellow, whomever you are, all we ask for
is equality, we ask for consistency. And
I think that's an important notion. For
example, you saw in the news, I'm trying
to just bring it into the situation. You
saw in the news today where basically
what happened was Don Lemon, who is a
very well-known left-wing liberal
commentator in terms of this entire ICE
protest that were going on. He basically
went into the into a Christian church
and almost and disrupted it. And he went
in to basically attack a Christian
pastor. His argument is the Christian
pastor was aiding ICE. Whatever that
person was doing, that's not the right
situation to do it. it is Christians who
were worshiping in the church I need to
respect that this is what we believe as
Muslims right but what's interesting is
now the government uh has come out and
said that they want to deploy the uh KKK
act which is that you're not able to
disrupt basically a religious ceremony
or a religious proceeding or someone
who's who's basically worshiping which
we agree with but I find it ironic that
somebody as you mentioned like Jake Lang
or various others not just him there's
been many incidences where recently over
the last two months and someone's tried
to go into a mosque and demonize a
Muslim or a Muslim's tried to pray and
you've tried to abuse them. And so if
you're going to deploy that act, then it
should be deployed consistent
consistently where even if someone's
praying as a Muslim or Christian,
they're able to pray without being
demonized, without being harassed, and
they're able to worship in the manner
that they worship. So we agree with
their position. I just find the lack of
consistency abhorren.
>> Are they going to have that same now act
like you just said being consistent in
the Muslim community? Imagine kids are
coming out. They see a decapitated pig's
head
>> there in Epic City and he's over here
with all these guys who are just
cursing, you know, slandering Prophet
Muhammad and doing all sorts of u uh
disrupting the peace and does this apply
this kind of same uh act now for for
Muslims?
>> Yeah. If he's disrupting a mosque cuz
that's a mosque in front of a mosque.
>> Yeah. If if he's going into a mosque and
disrupting a mosque, it definitely
should apply if they applied it
consistency consistently. And that's all
we're saying. We're saying
>> we believe all human is equal. We don't
believe in and gentile. We don't believe
in any form of supremacy, whether it's
supremacy, whether it's Muslim
supremacy, whether it's Christian
supremacy. We don't believe in any of
that. We believe in equality of all men.
So, we're just asking for and I believe
fairly that we believe in civil rights,
in equality of law amongst all men. I
want to touch upon this for a second
because when we say Sharia, people like
freak out. You got the ten commandments,
Sharia, right? Yeah. In the Arabic
Bible, over 200 times, it's mentioned
God's law. It's basically the the divine
law.
>> Uh you have like you just mentioned, you
have what is it called? U
>> uh Hanekah.
>> Hanaka. That's the And I have rabbis on
the program. I said, "You guys got your
I said, "Yeah, we got they don't call it
that, but it's pretty much the same.
>> Much much stricter than
>> Yeah. Right. uh you had the canon laws
from Christianity, they had their
version, but now and we're implementing
it every day. If if you're scared of
it's already here and you mentioned some
things, prayer, fasting, taking care of,
you know, that our parents don't go into
oho folks home respecting them, honoring
them, all these are all forms that
actually when you unpackage it, they
would actually agree with it. That's
that's the that's the ironic thing. When
you unpackage many of these values that
we have,
>> they would say, you know what, we're
more in line with this. when they say,
"Oh, you don't uh you're not they're not
in line with our way of life." Like
what? Like Only Fans? Like what what are
you talking about? The thousand1
genders. What's that way of life? I
mean, yeah, we would be against that,
but in essence, when you break it down,
family values, staying away from
anything that that in um hurts the mind,
the body, oppressing anybody, all of
these things are divine law. What are
your thoughts when you hear this thrown
out there? Sharia's coming, taking over.
What do you think? I mean from a legal
perspective,
>> right? Right. So again, we know who's
funding. Literally, there's funding and
money behind the hysteria being against
the Muslim community, which we spoke
about earlier. And that's one of the the
tactics that they use. They
misrepresent. Sharia means the path to
water, the path to the spring. Masaria,
the foundation of Sharia seeks to
protect five things. Five things that
every American cherishes, which is life,
religion, honor, intellect, wealth.
That's what the US Constitution seeks to
protect. And there is nothing in Sharia
that forces us to go against uh the
federal law. There's nothing in federal
law that forces us to go against. Um
this idea that our private religious
practices are some sort of threat is
again it's nonsense being promoted uh to
achieve political ends. But you could
say the same thing. Is Islam that when
you reframe it and you say is Islam
compatible with the west? Is actual
actual Judaism compatible with the west?
Is actual Christianity compat not the
liberalized version now that people are
living.
>> Yeah. And that and that's what's
interesting because like I'm a big
believer that America was founded by
white Anglo-Saxon Christian men and yet
Christianity was never formed as part of
the constitution. And if you look at,
for example, in that debate I did with
Tim P, he immediately conceded. He was
like, "Forget the forget the theology.
Forget the forget what actually Islam
says because obviously Islam is more
lenient. Actually, Islam is more
compatible. Let's just look at the
actions of certain Muslims." And that's
kind of the they already can see that in
every single debate I've been in, they
automatically can see that Islam is
actually the most um the least violent,
the least aggressive, and uh the least
harshest religion. And so like I gave a
few examples of that. The other one be
for example inheritance. In Islam a
woman gets one share. In Judaism she
gets zero.
>> In Islam for example the biggest
narrator of hadith was the wife of the
prophet peace be upon him Aisha. Right?
In uh Judaism a woman isn't allowed to
even be a teacher. And so there is no
instance and I'm I'm very confident
about this. There is no instance where
you will find something in Islam that as
an example and with Islam I think these
positions are logical and I can explain
the logical reason for why we have these
positions they are rational but that
being said you will never find any of
these positions that are not more
harsher in Judaism and or Christianity
and I think that's the important notion
so when they say and you are quite right
when they say Sharia has taken over what
aspects of Sharia because as you said a
lot of these things are internal when
you talk about these other issues
actually we find them much harsher in
Judaism and Christianity And none of
them as you said would
except for Judaism once but none of them
should or supersede the constitution
which they don't
>> and you're not going to see anything
derogatory anything defaming or
insulting about Jesus himself his mother
like you say in Judeo-Christian this is
a fabricated term this is just you know
doesn't exist but you will not see I
mean many Christians when you talk to
them they don't know this love and
reverence that we have for Jesus peace
be upon him but their bestie over here
uh you know that conversation is going
to get really awkward Ben Shapiro and
you start like you know you're promoting
him but then when you get down to the
nitty-gritty what do you believe about
Jesus what's he really going to say if
he's not compromising his religion
>> exactly what Ben Shapiro himself said on
the Joe Rogan podcast he said Ben
Shapiro sorry he said he said that Jesus
is a rebel and rebel re rebels get what
they deserve.
>> Wow. In uh Judaism uh in Judaism
obviously in the Talmud they believe
that Jesus is burning in his own
excrement but in Islam as you mentioned
quite accurately they have a huge amount
Muslims believe that Jesus was divinely
inspired by God. Muslims believe that
the Mary is pure. And uh this is very
unique because it was Islam that came
about and actually try to push push back
against these kind of negative
stereotypes and this negative agenda
against Mary. And if um you know if
people have read history, the history of
the prophet peace be upon him, the
pagans were abusing them. The pagans
were trying to harm them. The pagans
were trying to kill the Muslims and the
Muslims had to leave Mecca and they when
they left Mecca they end up in Abbasa
which was the land of the Christians and
the Christian king said what is this
religion? What do you guys believe? And
there was a surah a ver a surah within
the Quran which is specifically
dedicated to the mother of Jesus Mary.
And when the Christian king read that
surah, he was shook and it impacted him
spiritually to the extent where he was
willing to harm his alliance in order to
protect the Muslims. And if he hadn't
protected the Muslims at that time, they
may have ceased to exist. And it was the
Christian king that did so. And he did
so based on the Muslim belief about
Jesus and Mary.
>> What has been your experience? I think
uh with this topic right here because I
think I shared one of your videos. You
were talking about Jesus or something
and I shared it. It was exactly on this
and so many people watched this. They
really liked what you were saying. What
what are your thoughts when you talk to
someone like let's say I just use him as
an example Dan or anyone else. You know
most people in my experience they have
no clue about this the love and
reverence. Do you remember that video I
shared? You were talking about the
Muslims believing in Jesus all the
prophets and the simple message of
Islam. I I don't know if you you were at
the Cabo or
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I remember
that. But I mean, look, I think our job
in the in America to to push back
against the hatred is so easy because
people are so misinformed. And Islam is
so pure and simple, right? The message
is simple. All in creation has one Lord,
one God. And Abraham, Moses, Jesus,
Muhammad, peace be upon them, were
messengers of that God, of the one God.
And they all worshiped God. And they all
told us to worship God. And they told us
if you want to be close to the creator,
honor the creation. It's a universal
message. And the Quran in particular has
chapter 19, Mary speaks of the virgin
birth of Jesus Christ, peace be upon
him. And we believe that he will return
to earth and he will establish justice
on earth. However, we don't worship him
just as we don't worship Muhammad. We
worship the creator alone. So, it's a
very simple basic message. And when
people hear it, it resonates with them,
you know. And I think our job is just to
continue to build stronger relations and
and let people see firsthand uh the
honor and the love we have for Jesus.
And truly, we are more followers. We are
more so following the message of Jesus
than many Christians today because
unfortunately many have taken the path
of Paul who corrupted the message of
Jesus and then as it got mixed with the
Nyian council and the Roman Empire that
mixed in a lot of pagan beliefs to take
people away from the pure message of
Jesus. So my me message for my fellow
Christians is let us unite in following
the path of Jesus who taught to honor
God and honor our neighbors.
>> People kind of flip out when I say or
they're really surprised when I say
we're actually more Christian than the
Christian
>> and you can even more conservative and
conservative in the sense that you know
as Muslims we pray like Jesus in Matthew
26-39 it says and he fell on his face
and prayed to God. That's how Muslims
pray. We worship the God that Jesus
worships when we see each other. Assalam
alaikum. Shalom. This is in the Bible.
Fast like Jesus, beard like Jesus. It's
the same because he was uh following
submission like in the Lord's prayer. Uh
oh our father who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come,
thy will be done. Thy will be done is
Islam. Submission to the creator, not
the creation. So and that's what uh we
believe Jesus was a Muslim. Tell me did
anything shift after your you spent a
little time with Tim P. Conservative.
He's Christian, right?
>> I'm not sure if he's a Christian.
>> Yeah. Yeah,
>> but many of these people who call
themselves conservative Christians. How
can you be a conservative Christian and
now you're trying to spread good values,
right, that we and that's the main
message of Islam, pure monotheism and
living a morally upright life. How are
you? And I can understand if someone
it's room for everyone to change, but
when you invite someone to the TPS, what
is it the Turning Point USA and
nothing's really changed with their
songs, the message they're sending, and
now you you're making it like a clown
show. Where is everything going? What
direction is it is it turning when you
bring Nicki Minaj on? I mean, what what
has it become like WWE? What is it? Uh
what direction are you going? But you're
conservative Christians. You stand for
some values, but now you're pushing uh
the Nicki Minaj. Your daughters are
going to be listening to her and and
have you read some of the lyrics? I
don't listen. Have you read some of the
lyrics? Just read it. You cannot even
read them on on uh on air. And I think
it shows where the kind of uh where the
movement or the conservative movement
has gone in the United States of
America. And I do believe it's in it's
done intentionally by those in power. I
do believe the designers control the
media and they do control Hollywood and
they do control the Hollywood uh
Hollywood industry sorry the music
industry. And a lot of this is as you
said to cause um degeneracy within
society to cause degeneracy in the
culture. And so as you said if you have
people who are relaying the lyrics that
you mentioned or you have pornography
that is being pushed by both sides or
you have extreme radical feminism that
is being pushed by both sides that is
cause causing the collapse of the entire
society. It's why you see for example in
Europe complete collapse of Christianity
in the United Kingdom the country I'm
from it went from 75% Christian to 45%
Christian 30% drop in 10 years that 30%
drop where did it go atheism increased
by 25% in the United Kingdom. So they
basically all of them end up losing
their religion because the religion has
become diluted by this propaganda that
has been propagated by these people. And
I think that's a a good segue into this
whole point about the control of the
media that these people have, the harm
that they have. After October the 7th,
you know, many of us had to make a
decision that do we want to speak the
truth or do we want to continue in our
comfortable lives? And obviously um
Hassan mentioned that obviously I made
the sacrifice to speak out against what
was happening. And it wasn't easy like
you get a lot of hate, you have to you
lose a lot of money, you get a lot of
hatred, but you have to speak the truth.
And I think when I look at the last few
years, of course, we lost a huge amount
of money. We lost a huge amount of
support. But the impact that we had was
significant. And so if you look at and I
just want to bring this kind of topic
into the conversation is when October
the 7th happened, you know, there was a
lot of lies that were propagated about
the events of that day. There was a lot
of propaganda that was pushed and uh we
had to be at the forefront to push back
against it. And so if you like the lies
about the 40 beheaded babies which we
were instrumental in debunking and
actually we demonstrated that it was I
that lie had been pushed by I24 news. I
I24 news was a propaganda channel for
Netanyahu. It was a mouthpiece for
Netanyahu. That lie was pushed by Nicole
Zedek which is another is Zionist person
in Israel. And many people don't know
this, but that specific lie that was
pushed into the mainstream media in the
United States in the United Kingdom, it
was done by a paper called the business
insider. The two reporters were was one
of them was a American, the other one
was a British person. And again, they
helped push that into the media. So
that's what happened with that. And then
you look at the lies about the mass
grape. You look at the lies about the uh
the u you know the the events in October
the 7th which was basically the
resistance going into Israel to get
hostages to get military hostages to
swap them for Palestinian men, women and
children that are being held in Israel
without a trial who are hostages. And so
when you look at a lot of these lies
that were told, of course we did push
back against it. We did expose it, but
it wasn't easy cuz we were going against
the mass media machine. We go we're
going against the entire mainstream
media and social media. And if you look
at it to Twitter and and Tik Tok were
instrumental in giving us and others a
platform to be able to demonstrate a lot
of the lies and propaganda that is
happening. And now if you see it,
there's kind of been a bit of a shift in
that intentionally.
>> Hassan,
>> yes.
>> What are your thoughts? what I said what
I'm talking about of being more
>> Christian than the Christian.
>> Right. Right.
>> Is that is that a fair statement?
>> The idea
>> because Christian is one who is
Christlike.
>> Right. Right.
>> So, and then more conservative. You
know, you're talking about because what
is it about? It's about God. We're
always talking about God family.
>> In high school, I was voted most likely
to look like Jesus peace be upon him.
But yeah, of course. I mean, look, a
Muslim just simply means one
>> because you're from the same.
>> We're from the same land, right? Yeah.
Yeah. And got the beer, too. But look, a
Muslim means one.
>> That's when he returns. Damascus, right?
>> Damascus. He returns Damascus. But it
just means one who surrenders to God.
And Islam means peace through surrender
to God. And and all the prophets of God
taught peace and surrender to God. And
they all surrender to God. So they're
all Muslim. Let's, you know, the problem
is people made religion into an identity
and an ego. Let's shed that. We came
from God. We're going to return to God.
God is with us at all times. And if you
want to honor God, honor his creation
and honor and love all of his the
messengers that call towards God. And
and so that's that's our path. And I
think the more our Christian brothers
and sisters learn that about us and see
that in practice, the more unity and
strength we will build.
>> And just you just made reminded me when
you mentioned Damascus and the return of
Jesus. Well, according to Islamic
esquetology in terms of what's going to
happen in the end times that within our
narrations, there is this belief that
there's going to be an alliance between
the Muslims and the Christians against a
third people. Now, many people
speculate, who could that be? People
thought it could be China. people
thought it could be Russia. It could be
a third p entity as well. It could be
the Zionist. It could be whoever. But
there definitely is this belief that
there is going to be an alliance between
the Muslims and the Christians and
they're going to fight some very
powerful third entity. I say that to
basically demonstrate the difference in
Islamic esquetology compared to for
example the esquetology of Ashkanagi.
There's a esquetology within Ashkanagi
who say that during the end of times
according to their esquetology what will
happen is when the messiah returns
what will happen is there will be two
groups of people there will be the group
of people who were nice to the and he
actually meant the Muslims at that time
and there'll be the other group of
people who were mean to the and in that
he means the Christians the Muslims
because they were nice to the will get
the reward of being the slaves of the
during the end times cuz they were nice
to them. But the Christians who were
mean to them, they will be eradicated
and basically eradicated from the earth.
And so that's the difference between
esquetology or Ashkanazi esquetology
compared to Islamic esquetology.
>> What's the latest with the third temple,
the red heers? That was a big thing for
a little bit. They were setting dates.
What's happening? Do you know anything
about the latest?
>> I mean, look, there's a guy who I
believe is a very dishonest person, and
I don't trust uh his claims or what he
says. But that being said, he makes the
claim, this guy called Adam King, he
makes the claim that they did sacrifice
the red hea in um in Jerusalem and
actually it was successful and they've
now got the ashes of that red heer and
therefore they've moving towards the end
of times. That's his claim. I mean I
don't trust anything he says but it's
just worth noting that that's what his
claim was.
>> Um
>> are you familiar with the red heers and
everything?
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Unbelievable. So tell me before we
before we um conclude
tell me have you seen you go on X I
don't know how it is also you got
Facebook and other social media and then
you'll see these first like seem like
they're bots you see names Adam 657
right um a ton of these you'll see a lot
of hate towards Islam is this organic or
is this something that's being pushed
>> it's it's inorganic and it's being
pushed and it's being pushed from two
different avenues
So the first avenue is this. So I
mentioned about October the 7th. What
happened was because of the impact that
people like us had, they got exposed.
The Zionist got exposed, their lies got
exposed, their propaganda exposed. The
two main avenues that was done on was
Tik Tok and X already. For example, Mark
Zuckerberg is is a is a Zionist guy. So
if you look at Instagram, they already
control that. If you look at YouTube,
they already control that. Google
Corporation. But those two were the main
avenues and so Jonathan Greenblat who is
the head of the ADL who's a leftwing
this is how the leftwing and the right
wing come together right and therefore
when it comes to them they shed these
bubbles of leftwing and rightwing when
the time comes. So Jonathan Greenblat he
said in two important points he said we
have a generational problem we have a
Tik Tok problem which means that people
were hearing the news on Tik Tok and
were becoming anti-Israel and becoming
aware of their propaganda. Furthermore,
he said that there is an eighth war or
the eighth front and the eighth front is
social media and we need to take control
of Tik Tok. And so what you saw was
someone like um Jonathan Greenblat,
who's a leftwing designist, working with
Larry Ellison, a right-wing designist,
and what they did was they bought Tik
Tok. So they made sure that Tik Tok was
taken out of the control over Bidance
and they bought Tik Tok. So now Larry
Ellison who is the biggest funer of the
IDF has bought Tik Tok. He also bought
CBS News. He brought Barry Weiss who
essentially her entire career has been
attacked on Muslims and Palestinians.
She's well known for basically getting a
number of Palestinian professors fired
from university and also many believe
that she is kind of like Israeli
intelligence. But without a shadow of a
doubt, what she is is a mouthpiece for
the Israeli regime. and her free press
who has very low viewership was bought
for $150 million by Larry Ellison and
now she's become the director of CBS
News. And if you look at a lot of the
tensions that have been relayed have
been relayed by CBS News. Bringing that
back to Tik Tok. So now they have
control of Tik Tok. They have control of
the algorithm within Tik Tok. And with
the X, they did the same thing with Elon
Musk. They pressured him. They basically
did an advertiser boycott. If you
remember very early on Elon Musk huge to
reply to me whenever they would say,
"Oh, guess what? this is what
Palestinians believe. I say, "Oh, Elon,
look, this is what Israelis believe."
And he replied to me many times said,
"Oh, both are bad." Or, for example, he
said um that if you kill uh people in
Palestine, what'll happen is they'll
become Hamas members. And so, by the
claims that you have, you know, taking
out Hamas, you end up creating more
members. And they were not happy with
both of those comments, both of those
things as well as he mentioned about
immigration
were basically people were basically the
reason for migration into the West as
well. because they weren't happy with
that. They made him go to Israel and
look at what happened what happened in
October the 7th and they made him go on
ashawitz tour and they made him go on an
exace with Ben Shapiro and a number of
rabbis and those were like his
humiliation rituals but what happened is
then you saw him change the algorithm.
So as an example, my account was the
most viral account from October 2023
till around 2025.
And the reason was because the people
were with Palestine and so you saw a
major algorithm shift in that regard. So
that was the first thing. The second
thing was Israel realized that they
failed on October 7th because the world
was with Palestine. They always relied
on basically a number of influencers who
were Zionist who would push their agenda
whether it's through social media or
mainstream media and you never really
had much much push from the other side.
But the sheer volume of people who were
and even me when I made the decision on
October 7th and I thought look I need to
do I need to give away this huge
contract I've got and I need to speak
the truth and when I gave it when I made
that decision to stand for the
Palestinians and I was the first to do
so I thought that okay I'm doing it
there's a couple of risks one is that
I'm going to end up I might lose my
account obviously I'm going to lose the
money but in addition to that I actually
didn't expect so many people to be pro
Palestine that was a bit of a shock for
me because in the past whenever one
posted something about Palestine you got
a lot of hate and you never really got
much push back on the other way so I
believe they didn't expect it and so
that's what you saw the sheer volume of
it. They've obviously been able to
recalibrate and realign. So the second
thing they've done is oh sorry two other
things they've done is pay influencers.
So a lot of influencers you see the
$7,000 a post. Also I'm aware that
people are being paid 30 $40,000 a month
with accounts that are a fraction of my
size of account and bigger than me.
They're getting much more money than
that. So they're paying influencers not
through these uh through and not just
through these campaigns because they
used to have campaigns through Prager
University and influencables where
they'd say this is the campaign push
this and we'll pay you certain amount of
money. So they use them or they've
always had that but now they've got that
influencers and the last thing is what
you quite accurately said is sorry the
algorithm change and the last thing is
the bots. So they've got a massive bot
campaign that kind of pushes their
propaganda and they've been able to
introduce that through a lot of money
through the Israeli government. You're
seeing all of that happening on X in
real time and Tik Tok. And that's why
you've seen this massive shift in
narrative towards pro-Israel content and
anti-Islam content.
>> I want I want to quote this uh professor
and I want to get your guys um a few few
comments on this. David Warrenstein,
he's an academic professor and he said
Islam saved the jury, the Jewish people.
Because we've talked about Zionism
people and so people don't get some
wrong ideas, come to some wrong
conclusions. Um, what do you think now?
Have you guys been labeled any certain
terms because you're talking about this
topic? And what does your what does
Islam teach you actually uh about do
does it teach us to hate a certain
people because they're a certain
religion? Just a hate all out right?
>> No, not at all. And actually, yeah, I've
been labeled anti-semite. The the
Israelis put my name on a missile uh as
a as a threat and to kill Palestinians.
But that being said, no Islam, we don't
believe that. We believe in equality of
all men. And if you look through Islamic
history, it was the Muslims and the who
used to protect the even Rabbi Ashmulli
who does who he actually admits that it
was Muslims who protected
>> people. Actually the and this is the
irony whenever they say this is kind of
like a your third word problem or this
is a Middle Eastern problem. is
hilarious because in reality if you look
at the entire history or from uh the ex
from for the last 2,000 years up until
1945 which is when this fake time of
Judeo-Christian came about
>> it was actually the the Christians who
had issues the Christians threw the Jews
out of more than 109 countries more than
a thousand times
>> who did the Muslims
>> no the Christians
>> not not the Muslims
>> not the Muslims no the Muslims
>> they actually fled that to Muslim
countries
>> exactly they were with the it was the
Muslims who were on the same side in the
crusades as an example temple. And so
when you look at the entirety of
history, it was always Muslims who
basically protected the and they
actually, you know, because they were
always the oppressed class. What's
happened is actually, and I think this
is kind of the irony that when once the
people came into the position of power
or designers came into the position of
power, they then didn't kind of give the
Muslims the same level of benefits and
support that the Muslims had given them
throughout the history. And it's without
a shadow of a doubt that there are
certain specific points in history that
would have ceased to exist if it had not
been for the protection and support of
Muslims in for example various different
lands.
>> That's why I open up with the professor
if I said it's one thing but you got
academics Islam saved the jury. What do
you think on this?
>> Yeah. I mean Abba Ian said were treated
justly twice. once in the US and and the
other time under Islamic rule. You know,
there's no doubt that there is no
civilization that allowed both Muslims
uh both Christians and minorities to
live under peace and justice than the
Muslim community. Under Muslim rule, the
would have in fact their own legal
courts and their own systems and they
would answer to judges and so would the
Christians. Again, Islam came to honor
the people of the book that listen, you
are a people who received a book and a
prophet and revelation before us from
the same God. And we cannot honor the
creator if we dishonor the creation. Um
it the reality is though they've never
treated us even a fraction as good as
we've treated them uh under the Islamic
civilization.
>> Thank you. Thank you brothers. Thank you
for being with us. People can find uh
your news and commentary and everything
on X or you're also on X. Yes, on X and
Instagram and then Muslimleal.com. Check
us out if you need trustworthy Muslim
lawyers.
>> Uh I'm on X and also I'm on YouTube.
I've been posting a lot of geopolitical
information news. I stream daily and uh
also videos daily from a geopolitical
perspective. That's kind of more my
expertise. So you can find me on YouTube
which is Sulman Ahmed X.
>> Thank you brothers.
>> Excellent. Thank you brother.
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