bah alhamdulillah alikum welcome to the
dean show peace be unto you I'm Eddie
your host and today we have on the show
to share his story with us is The
Bodyguard former bodyguard for the world
renowned
famous heavyweight champion of the world
now you got to know this man Muhammad
Ali that's right Muhammad Ali his former
bodyguard is going to be talking to us
Nan n Muhammad he going to be on in a
few so you don't want to go nowhere
because it's going to be an exciting
show when we come back here on the dean
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Allah there's only one God and muham is
his meenger
there's only one God and Jesus his
messenger I don't know why I did that
maybe maybe it's just to break the ice
welcome back to the dean show I'm Ed
your host and just in a couple minutes
we're going to be bringing out the
former
bodyguard Nan Muhammad who's also a
black belt in many different martial
arts he also started training the most
effective martial art not just because I
train it Gracie jiujitsu Brazilian
jiu-jitsu but because the Gracie family
indeed proved that it was so he is
somebody that I got a chance to sit with
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Muhammad Ali that's right Muhammad Ali
his former bodyguard shik Nan shik Nan
can you hear me brother yes I can hear
you good thank God thank you for being
with us on the dean show thank you very
much I'm glad to be here this is my
first time so as we hear it you used to
be the bodyguard for the former Champion
of the World Heavyweight Champion the
world famous Muhammad Ali yes sir for
those people who might have been locked
up in a room for a long time they
haven't been out and they don't know who
Muhammad Ali is tell us a little bit
about him please well Muhammad Ali was
the former uh heavyweight world
champion uh in the United States well
all over the world and
and uh what he done in the boxing world
is unmatched and what he also done
outside the boxing world is
unmatched so uh most people he was one
of the most recognized faces on the
planet and um I haven't had this uh
gracious opportunity to work with him as
a bodyguard someone might think why
would a champion heavyweight champion
like him need a bodyguard well there's
certain things that he uh can't do for
himself you know he don't have eyes on
the side of him and behind him so you
need someone to keep certain people away
from him that are approaching him and
that have a critical eye and watching
and protecting him because he was a very
public figure and even though Muhammad
Ali was a person that is a person that
everybody seems to love but you do have
people who maybe have some mental
sickness uh illness and that might
approach him uh in a way that's
inappropriate so the job of the person
that's securing uh figure like that is
to make sure that this don't happen now
you're also a top ranking martial arts
black belt is that correct yes I've been
doing martial art for a period over 35
years my teacher is Abdul mutat of the
Swarm Academy of Martial Arts that's in
Jamaica Queens as well as in Atlanta
Georgia uh if you go to the website swam
marsh.com uh you see what we teach is
called uh kaj kajuu boxing uh goru jit
Jiu-Jitsu so as a young man tell us did
you grow up in a Christian
household yes I grew up in a um what you
could call it was the infrastructure was
uh based on uh Christianity my father
and mother um I first started out as a
Catholic and then from there I moved on
to um
um uh to B to becoming a Baptist is it
true that your father was a deacon yeah
my father was a big Deacon later on he
got more immersed in the church I'm from
a New Yorker originally but years ago my
father moved to Atlanta bought property
and helped build a church of uh over
1500 members and his name is engraved on
church cuz he died about 6 years ago and
his name is engraved on the church and
he was a head Deon of that church he
helped build it and finance it and
everything elain tell us did you grow up
believing that Jesus was God and your
savior yes this is where I was taught uh
he was God and he was my sa my personal
Savior and I had accepted him I was
baptized you know dipped in water and
you know and told that I had accepted
Jesus as my Lord and
Savior so tell us Nan how did this
change in your life happen well that
came about um I was a very troubled
youth when I grew up at the age of 12
years old I got in trouble and I was
sent to youth Hall and from there I just
continue aspiring out of control because
I really not I really didn't have no
rules and guidance in my in household my
father and mother they uh went to church
you know once in a while but really uh
rules from the scripture was not really
uh applied in the house and I really
didn't have no guidance so the street
gave me guidance and I joined gangs and
you know clicks and stuff like that and
I sort of spir out of control and so by
the age of 16 to 17 I was really on a
mission of self-destruction and at the
age of 15 my father put me out of the
house tell us a little bit about this
baptism well uh they take you in the day
that I was supposed to accept Jesus and
my Lord and Savior uh they have a a
either man-made pool or some water
someplace and behind a curtain and next
thing I know I was scared to death and
and Reverend he's in the in the pool and
and they say a few things and they take
you under the water in the name of the
father and the name of the son and the
name of the Holy Ghost and I accept the
dis without real any knowledge I didn't
really get I really didn't understand
what I was doing tell us what is the
belief now your belief now about the one
who is so beloved and de to our hearts
Jesus Christ peace be upon him well
alhamdulillah by the guidance of Allah
and you know there was another track of
me before I became to this uh the Quran
and sunah and I guess you asked me about
that but just speed it up um I came to
understand that uh Jesus in Islam we
call him isau Alam may peace be upon him
uh that he was a prophet of God a major
one of the Major Prophets of God and no
prophet of God has ever declaimed uh to
be divine uh they came with the Divine
message that God came but they was not
Divine they was human beings and that
God had raised up uh spiritually and
they came with a message and isau Alam
came with the message of
truth how do you tackle the argument
that some people adamantly make about
Jesus being god well div I I say say
something quickly uh my father uh before
he died I went to visit him uh in George
in Georgia in the 80s and when I was
married at that time um I had small
children and one of my daughters uh her
name is Yasmine and I hope she's
watching this uh she's an adult now of
course she was in the room playing with
her cousin it was about 10 of her
cousins they was playing in the living
room and they had an argument uh they
was talking about Jesus and her
Christian cousins were saying Jesus was
God and Yas mean said no Allah is God
he's the only God so my ex-wife she was
at the
table um with me and she was pinching me
cuz she was worried that my daughter was
going to really bring this into the
kitchen where we was having dinner the
dining room and we was eating with my
father mother brothers and sisters all
at the table who are Christians and
surely she did and she came directly to
the table she said Daddy they're saying
that Jesus is God who is God is Jesus
God I told them that Allah is God and my
wife was very scared and I turned to her
my daughter everything was quiet and I
said that's right Allah is God and my
father became very angry he was
disappointed that I was teaching my
children this type of concept so what
happened the next uh morning uh my
father had to go to the church to teach
Sunday school CU it was on a Saturday
and my mother and father was getting red
dressed but they wasn't inviting me to
come to the church number one because I
wor was like a CES clothing uh that
something like I have on now and I had
one of these kofy hats on so he was
uncomfortable so they rushed out and
left me but the church was about half a
block away from the house so I decided
to get dressed and go to the church and
when I open the door of the church um I
guess this uh record there was all eyes
is on me all eyes was on me CU here I
open the door and they see this person
with this kofy hat on these funny
looking clothes to them strange clothes
and they looked and I was invited in and
one of the ladies who was teaching the
uh Sunday school service she invited me
to sit with her a large group and my
father was teaching the other group and
he started to sweat profusely so they
was talking about M Moses alisam may
peace be upon him and the things that he
went through and everything so what
happened to speed this up uh they asked
me to make some comments and I made some
comments just general knowledge that a
Muslim has about these prophets CU we
love them and they're the same prophets
in Islam in Christianity same prophets
in Islam because it's one link and
they're all Brothers prophets are
brothers to one another so the Reverend
or Pastor must have had some type of
device that he could hear what was going
on in this big church and he stepped out
from the back and he signal to me to
come to him and then he invited me in
the back room and the pastor was I guess
about 60 or 70 years old then I was in
my 20s and he asked me he said you're
not a Christian I said no I'm not a
Christian he said he said you're a
Muslim I said yes I'm a Muslim and he
asked me questions about the scripture
and he was very impressed at the answers
I gave said where did you learn this I
said I learned this from the Quran the
book of Allah uh from the messenger of
Allah Sall alhi wasallam and he was so
convinced that what I was saying was
truthful that he invited me to give the
talk for the day so when I came back out
they started playing the ARG and that's
a signal to the pastor to come out and
start the sermon give us a demonstration
of how this sounds like well okay it's
Take Me Near The Cross that's a old
traditional song among Baptist people so
when he heard that that was a signal to
come out the organ was playing the
people was saying that so he came out
said praise the Lord he waved his hand
everybody got quiet and he said we have
a special guest with us today my
father's sweating profusely now he's
really concerned and my mother and
father I mean my my mother and brother
and sister was sitting on the front row
and their mouth was open like this in
disbelief and as they were disbelieving
me the night before they was telling me
I was all wrong here their Pastor saw
something in what I was saying was
truthful so what he said he said we have
a special guest and he called his name
Nim which is pronounced n Lan Muhammad
now he said but uh his brother he he's
he's uh Deacon n's son and now all eyes
went on the the Deacon cuz his son is a
Muslim he said he's not a Christian he's
a Muslim he said but I find what he said
was very truthful and I want him to give
the talk for the day so I ended up
giving the talk and I was talking about
M Alam Moses how the people gave him
trouble as he was trying to give them
the truth how they rejected and they
kept rebelling uh we going to do that
the same today so it went over very well
and then when I went back home the
pastor had called me in the back to meet
with some other Reverend so my father
and mother went home to help me about
another hour when I got home open the
door all my family was standing up on
their feet and clapping like this and my
mother come and hugged me my stepmother
actually she came and hugged me and said
uh God bless you um I didn't know you
was a man of the cloth and my father he
just bowed his head and just shook my
hand you know he said good job son and
basically that was it and um before he
died I done my best to explain theed the
Oneness of Allah he accepted that
there's only one God but when I said
Muhammad s alhi wasallam he rejected it
so I made effort and my mother's now in
her 80s and I need to visit her my
stepmother and see if I can reach her
but I did the best I could at that time
so that's what happened so now if
someone asks you who's paying the price
for your sins now now what do you say
well the concept of dying from the sin
and original sin this is not a concept
in Islam as we know Adam alisam is the
father of all men and howah Eve is the
mother of all men and women and when
they made their mistake in paradise and
uh uh Allah in the Quran says uh Adam we
have honored the children of Adam and
Allah and they made Toba and and Allah
forgave them so in Islam whatever you do
is upon you you come in this world as a
blank page and all whatever you do
whether good good or bad is from you we
don't have to worry about it being
passed down to us so there's no original
sin so I don't I do not have this View
and so when a Christian comes to me and
said that Jesus died for your sins etc
etc um I informed them of the Islamic
point of view tell us your experience
with the nation well I was in the Nation
of Islam and I came about that as I said
I was a trouble very Troubled Youth and
I came into the Nation of Islam at a
very young age uh I was actually
influenced by it at at the age of 14
years old and what happened they used to
be at the subway stations in New York
where they was all over there was like
ants everywhere in uh New York and in
the in the predominantly uh ghetto areas
they was there and this is unfortunate
that the the people of Quran and sunah
they was not available so this was what
was in my environment so I thought this
was Islam and so one day I was going to
the subway and every morning this person
would stop me and he said get your
Muhammad speaks your Muhammad speaks get
your Muhammad speaks and I would tried
to avoid him and I ended up buying a
paper and it had a picture of this man
big fat African-American black man
eating look what appeared to be a rat it
was a cartoon with a rat going in his
mouth and he was sweating profusely and
it says uh cat rat dog this is what a
pig is made of this was the coner for
the nation Islam so I went home and that
weekend it was tradition in
African-American culture that we meet on
Sunday morning have breakfast so we
having breakfast and that breakfast
consist of fatback meat I don't know if
they still anybody know what that is
anymore but I remember it and bacon eggs
and you know a lot of pork and I used to
love eating
pork but I used to love eating so what
happened I wouldn't eat any of it so my
father looked at me and my brother and
sister said what's wrong with you how
come you're not eating no meat how come
you not eating that I said I don't eat
any more pork and then my father looked
over and he said why are you not eating
pork and I said I said because it has
999 diseases because this what the
Nation of Islam was the brother had told
me at the subway station and it said
it's made of a cat rat and a dog and
when I said that he said where you learn
this from I said from the Nation of
Islam and he cursed Elijah Muhammad out
at the table and he took all the pork
and poured it on my plate and made me
eat it and he didn't know about five or
six years later that that from this day
for with my knowledge I haven't ate I
have eaten any of that since and I
joined that's when I came about joining
the Nation of Islam now how did you make
the transition from the
nation which is more of a nationalistic
movement to Islam which brings all
people from all nationalities white
yellow black pink purple doesn't matter
what color you are real Islam brings
people together as true brothers and
sisters of humanity tell us how did you
make this transition to the Real
Islam well I got from the Nation of
Islam I joined the Nation of Islam um as
I told you I was a troubl youth and I I
was incarcerated and I joined in through
the prison system and when I came out I
met Minister farak Khan he heard about
the great things are done in prison and
so he said you're going to do great work
out here and I did a lot to promote the
Nation of Islam I was a l tenant in the
Nation of Islam which is uh I was a FY
first was the name of the military
training of men the fruit of the fruit
of Islam and I then I became a
lieutenant uh which I mean I give orders
and teach those who are processing they
call them processing Brothers uh how to
be a good member in the Nation of Islam
and give them instructions so
um when I what made me leave the Nation
of Islam was death the the leader of the
Nation of Islam at that time Mr Elijah
Muhammad at that time you call him The
Honorable Elijah Muhammad Mr Elijah
Muhammad who uh teacher was Master farad
Muhammad and you have to understand that
this came about in the 30s and there was
ignorance was very prevalent in the
African-American community and it was
also a community of hopelessness there
was no hope and so this man came with
some hope and he used a psychology that
said that the black man was God so he
had to use a formula that worked to make
us look at ourselves differently because
we hated ourselves and so it worked and
he said the white man was a devil and at
that time uh Caucasian people was
beating up lynching us hanging us and
everything else so it was easy for me to
to conceive that he was the devil so
after some time being a Nation of Islam
I had a problem with that picture of
Master FR Muhammad because he looked
white and when I showed it to some
people they said that's a white man I
hid it in my heart my mind to the
members of the nation Islam that I had a
problem with that so when Elijah
Muhammad died February the 2 5th 1975 I
believe um I was devastated I was rushed
to Chicago as a lieutenant I was
informed that he had passed on that I
was on the plane and everything and then
he told us to next person would be God
himself so you don't mind I was thinking
that God was going to walk up on a
platform and give a talk this did not
happen it was Imam wor de Muhammad and
gradually he moved us closer and closer
to the Quran and soonah until eventually
he started talking about the teaching of
his father was incorrect and so I took
my shahada in 1975 under the hands of
world to Muhammad my name uh Nan uh
Muhammad uh he is the one that gave me
that name may Allah expand his grave for
the good things that he did do but then
I found that later I needed to move from
that whole entire experience so in the
late 80s I left uh even IM wor de
Muhammad Community uh to move on to
continue my studies and Endeavors in
Islam now how do you reason with someone
talk to someone from the nation to get
them to understand to come to the Real
Islam
well when you're talking to you have to
understand that this person first you
have to see if they're sincere there are
some people that are in the Nation of
Islam that are very very sincere an
example I'm here in Canada right now and
they had the caravana Fest we went
downtown we have a uh the Canadian do
Association which I am the special
advisor to and I asked all people to go
to our website uh Canadian dard
association website and see the work we
are doing every year uh we just had a
big conference Here Eddie as you know
and we had uh some uh names that are
known Lon uh we had freeway uh
Napoleon uh myself Nan Muhammad and um
these and Dr Lawrence Brown and we just
had a beautiful conference but the big
thing when you're talking to someone
from the Nation of Islam you should know
what you're talking about and you should
understand that this person sincerely
believes this is the truth so you
shouldn't belittle him you shouldn't say
say you're wrong and everything because
everything is not wrong when the devil
wants to make a lie he has to use some
truth that's the bait but the hook
actually is the lie so when I approach
them I approach them and shake their
hand and they sayam alayum I will sayum
this is a DA technique some Muslims
might disagree with me and I could they
said they're not Muslim and we we're not
supposed to get Islam but I'm using da
techniqu and when I shake their hand and
they they feel that I'm sincerely
sincerely caring about them they open up
so what happened this weekend one was
out selling the Nation of Islam paper or
whatever it was this weekend downtown
Toronto on Young and and dantis and I
was sitting under the umbrella the
Islamic umbrella table and he walked up
to me and he was looking like back and
forth and I didn't understand I guess he
was looking to see if his brothers was
watching him and he sit down someone
told him that uh um there's a brother
that was in the Nation of Islam he's
older and he used to be the former
bodyguard of Muhammad Ali as well as
farakhan and he is knowledgeable of the
Nation of Islam so he came and asked me
very softly he said excuse me he said
why did you leave the nation you was in
a nation I said yes he said why did you
leave the nation that was his question I
said well the death of the leader and I
said after that happened I was looking
and searching for something that would
help me and I had a problem with the
picture of M for M I told him to hold
spill and I said brother I said you're
searching I told him I said you're
searching right now I said when you find
what you need to find I said embrace it
I said that's true Islam I said Allah is
going to guide you I said but when he
when you see the guidance accept it and
so I didn't have a lot of time to talk
to him cuz he had to go I said I gave
you my telephone number he took it he
wanted to make contact with me and I
think he had respect so anyone that came
from the Nation of Islam and know how to
give da properly we can reach those
people you know and I hope that Minister
farakhan uh you know before he leaves
this life that he clears this and make
it very clear that M and clear this
argument or clear this controversy up
because people said no he's on the path
some of them would say this I said well
when I read the back of the paper when I
buy the paper from them once in a while
just to see if they change you if you
turn to the back of the paper it says
the Muslim beliefs these are not Muslim
belief and one of them it says and we
believe in God who came in the person to
master Muhammad this is uh is
incorrect sh n can you explain for our
non-muslim audience who are watching the
show and for also the people from the
nation what actually is the Islamic
belief clear Islamic beliefs you have
what is known as the Five Pillars the
first pillar is our witness there's no
Muhammad is his messenger uh the next is
prayer the next is zakat the next is
fasting during the month of Ramadan and
the fifth pillow is Hajj these are the
pillows and they're known as pillars
which means they hold up something and
the chief pillar is muham Muhammad then
you have what is known as the six
articles of belief which is very
important is the belief in Allah is the
belief in his angels is the belief in
his books books we mean the scriptures
that was sent in the final Revelation
which is Quran is the belief uh in his
Messengers and Prophets and the final
Prophet we know is Muhammad sallu alhi
wasallam and the belief in the day of
judgment and the belief in Divine decree
which is very important but when we come
to Muhammad the prophet Sall alhi
wasallam this is where when you're
talking to people they say well I never
heard of Muhammad well I'm going to give
you a little J so I never heard of
Obama right and Obama is the president
of the United States now I never heard
of him to the his name came up in the
elections and he is the 44 president I'm
not sure but he is the line uh
presidents we do not follow the laws of
George Washington today because why
those laws are outdated they wouldn't
apply uh to what the society and growth
and development that has reached now so
Obama is in a link and line of the
presidents that came before him and he
right now we follow the laws enacted by
Congress through President Obama so with
prophethood the prophet started out with
Adam being the first prophet of God and
moving all through uh the great prophets
Moses uh uh uh David uh and isau Alam
until we reach Muhammad so Muhammad
brought the final message that God has
given to man to the day of judgment the
kran makes it very clear that he is a
mercy to all mankind Esau Alam brought
the message to a certain group of people
and he made it very clear some of the
Christians read right in the Bible that
this message was to this group of people
but the message of the Quran is to every
human being and that's why in Islam you
find people from all different ethnic
group and races now we just have 2
minutes is left can you tell us shake
the lane as you had once so eloquently
said how can we avoid getting pimped by
the Shayan yes the devil yeah we have to
be very careful that I call him uh I did
a lecture at as you know at the uh
conference called Shayan the pimp and
he's pimping the whole world and if you
don't want to get pimped by him then you
have to stay away from the enter
entertainment Halls of the pimp what are
the entertainment Halls of the pimp the
movie theaters uh you have to stay away
from script clubs uh massage Po and
people that talk filthy languages and
for a Muslim he should stay around the
Muslims who are seeking to be upright
stay more keep your heart and mind
attached to the Quran the toed make sure
that you have tawa and remember you
should have your your uh your Iman uh
your faith and belief it should be as
though you're walking through a garden
that has a lot of thorns and that your
Iman is very fragile like cotton and if
you go through it and not careful that
cotton is going to get ripped if you're
not careful in this environment young
Brothers young sister whether male or
female whether old or young then you're
going to start to lose your Iman and in
conclusion it's just like this if a
horse is coming down a dusty road and
you're standing on the side of the road
the horse might not run you over but you
going to get some of the dust from that
horse so if you live in this environment
you going to get some of the Dust of K
on you so you have to be very careful
and Umar said he said the Muslim that
mixes with the people and endure their
harm is better than a Muslim who does
not mix with the people and does not
endure their harm thank you very much
Shay for being with us thank
you and i' like to just give a uh say
that I'm in Minnesota I'm with the Masid
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alikum made the creator of the heavens
and the Earth Allah reward you thank you
and that was the former bodyguard of the
world champion heavyweight champion
famous Muhammad Ali who is Muslim who is
one who's made a conscious decision to
acquire peace by submitting himself
submitting his will to the will of the
creator of the heavens and the Earth to
be obedient to be in line with what
everything the Creator wants him to do
that is what a Muslim is so there are
many many thousands of thousands of
people who are coming to this beautiful
way of life the way of life that was
lived by Jesus Christ peace be upon Him
Moses peace be upon Him Abraham peace be
upon Him Noah these were just a few of
the messengers that came with this way
of life they taught people the same
religion the same way do what God wants
you to do do it on his terms acquire
peace by submitting to the will of God
by submitting to what the Creator wants
you to do and the last and final
messenger sent to mankind the prophet
Muhammad peace be upon Him came with the
same way as a mercy he was sent as a
mercy to the world so get to know a
little bit more about us about this
wonderful way of life continue to come
back here on the dean show and if you
want to accept the way of all the
messengers you can do it right now you
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Islam and until next time until we meet
again continue to tune in make Dua for
us and we'll see you insh La God willing
until then peace be unto you come and
see what everyone's talking about who
you find one contradiction it can't be
from
God but the rational idea the rational
explanation is you do your best give up
worshiping God as one I will never give
up spreading this message I hope that
you take that necessary step you don't
know if you're going to live till
tomorrow so you got to find that urgency
to do the right thing right
now the reality of Life usually doesn't
sink in until tragedy
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comes you get a few bad people media
grabs a hold of that and Spins it the
way they want
to if you say that you do not believe in
Jesus you have stepped outside of his
son you cannot be a Muslim is tended our
faith to
it's cold it's
lame everybody
sleeping I
arise and ask a lot of forgive me oh
Allah you
see oh Allah you
know all the sins I
do I turn to you to forgive my sins and
my heart
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I'm your sinful
slave you're my love and
Lord I'm the one who runs
away oh gu be