Asalam alaikum. This is going to be an
exciting episode. We got Tucker Carlson
asking the question, what is the Jin
>> power was? Because he could call upon
what they call jin genies and he could
command them with his ring, the ring of
Solomon, the ring of power. And that's
what he so the real lore of like masonry
right was that he had this builder
Hayabiff who could you know who
architected the the temple the the
temple of Solomon but they had jin that
they called upon to actually do the work
and to build it now that's all metaphor
and what are jin and that's where we
come in we'll cover the slander and lies
around the great prophet of God Sullean
Solomon and many of the other prophets
whom God almighty gave a miracle of
being able to control the jin by God
Almighty law's permission. We have
Oliver Stone's son, the famous Hollywood
producer, his son Sean Stone, also talks
about what appears to be his
communication with the Jin from in that
time period. I would get phone calls
from 666 numbers all the time. 666,
we want your soul. Like just demonic
voices, we I want your soul. was kind of
nonsense. So, Satan called your cell. I
mean, I don't know if you know if it was
Satan or this.
>> They get into him and Tucker,
Freemasons, these secret societies, the
occult, and we'll be touching upon the
channeling possession, how jin deceive
people through different means, and the
UFOs and aliens being one of them. These
are the jin actually. We're going to
break down all this from the Islamic
perspective. This is one of the missing
pieces, a major missing piece of the
puzzle that Tucker Carlson, who loves
talking about this, needs to look into
and anybody else. And most Muslims only
have good things to say about Tucker.
Many are praying and making dua that God
Almighty guides him because he's been
talking, taking a positive turn, and
speaking a lot of truth. So, I hope and
pray that this message, this episode
gets to him. You guys do your part and
send it to him. And inshallah, God
willing, Allah wills, we'll be speaking
to Tucker soon, inshallah. Enjoy this
episode of the Dean Show.
is the
angels.
>> Now, before I bring out my next guest
who's part of a team that have been
investigating this topic that Tucker
Carlson just opened up with his guest
and they got into he's written an essay
on this. He's somebody who's very well
informed. We'll bring him out in a
second, but let's go ahead and get into
this clip that we're going to be
discussing.
filmmaker Oliver Stone's son Sean Stone
and Tucker Carlson on the topic of the
jin.
interested where the ancient
>> want to the well of souls.
>> The well of souls the the ancient texts
the things that were you know written
into like grimoirs and hidden you know
incantations things that you could
basically call upon the spiritual realm
because that's the lore of King Solomon.
King Solomon as we remember from the
Bible you know he had wisdom and he was
a powerful ruler over uh what was then
it but uh
>> richest man in the world.
>> Yeah. Well, he had the gold, but why did
he have the power? Was because he could
call upon what they call jin genies. And
he could command them with his ring, the
ring of Solomon, the ring of power. And
that's what he So, the real lore of like
masonry, right, was that he had this
builder Hayabiff who could, you know,
who architected the the temple, the the
temple of Solomon, but they had jin that
they called upon to actually do the work
and to build it. Now, that's all
metaphor. And what are jin
>> genies? What we would call genies in
Aladdin's lamp. They are the beings. And
so I went to Iran the first time was
>> curiosity. But I went to go meet with
some of these guys that communicate to
them to the other side and uh I would
talk to them about you know what's going
on in the world and they would say yeah
I mean
the jin and Islamic lore is very similar
to like aalamikum
brother. How are you?
>> I'm good. Alhamdulillah. How you doing?
>> Alhamdulillah. Very, very good.
>> Now, the last time we were together, we
were actually in person in the UK in
London and we were discussing Tucker
Carlson and he was talking about the
Jin. Well, he didn't say the Jin at that
time, did he? He and they were with Joe.
He was with Joe Rogan and they were
discussing UFOs and aliens, which were
actually we unpackaged it. It was
actually the Jin. Now we got him again
with Sean Stone and I believe uh are you
familiar with this um his father's a
very uh famous producer and of many
films and he also I believe his son Sean
Stone Oliver son's son he I believe in
2012 he accepted Islam.
>> Oh m no I'm not aware of them to be
honest this was the first time I saw uh
uh content by him. Uh so it's very
interesting though what he said.
>> Yeah. And you yourself you you're a part
of a team when we met. You were
explaining to me a part of a team that
was really digging deep into the aliens,
UFOs and and letting the public now
coming out this time discussing this
matter that this is actually the world
of the jin which they actually just
mentioned it now and then Tucker's
asking him what are the jin? It's a
great chance for us to actually explain
since he's really getting fascinated
with this topic like many people are.
What are your thoughts on this clip?
>> Yeah. So, so there's several things to
be said here, bro. But I think a couple
of important things which people should
pay attention to. Uh number one, uh that
you know it's rare to see people mention
the jin. They may many of these guys
these movers and shakers people from the
government XCIA you know people from the
occult they may mention these beings but
they don't refer to them as the jin on
one or two occasions where they have
they retracted what they've said or
they've faced a lot of backlash there's
many examples of this but it's nice and
refreshing to see someone actually
called the jin jin right now obviously
this is what we refer to them from the
Islamic tradition these entities or
beings have been referred to many things
throughout history in many different
civilizations and cultures but what's
unique about Islam
is that it gives us a lot of insight
into who these beings are, their nature,
why they deceive people, you know, uh
who they, you know, who they follow,
what they do, how they trick us, all the
details are given within Islam, within
the grand co, you know, cosmic picture,
you know, everything is put into place
and it's very powerful. So, it's very I
think for non-Muslims who are interested
as well, they should definitely look
into what the Quran has to say in
regards to these entities and these
beings, the jin. There's a whole chapter
called the chapter of the jin on these
beings. Um and in specific uh brother
Eddie related to what you were saying
about King Solomon or Sulman. I think
it's important to clarify this for
people. A lot of people that research uh
Solomon or the prophet Solomon and as
he's known or
they are they are misinformed in regards
to his connection with the j and I think
it's important for people to realize
this. A lot of these people claim that
that Solomon himself was engaging in
rituals that he was practicing certain
magical rituals and so on and invoking
or bringing upon these entities and
trying to control these entities and
that he had books written etc. and then
that later on these books were
discovered or the Knights Templars went
in and access these books or maybe even
people prior to uh you know them access
these books. But the reality is again
the Quran removes these these you know
misrepresentations.
For example in the second chapter of the
Quran verse 102 Allah subhanaa God
clearly outlines that the prophet
Solomon was free of these entities or
these beings or you know or disbelief
and that includes you know engaging in
these types of practices. We know from
the Islamic tradition that Allah
subhanaa tala himself gave the command
over the jin to Sulmanisam. This this
ability it was by the leave of God. It
wasn't through rituals or magical
practices. However, if you read the
tapas, if you read the exesis on this
particular verse and you look at the
classical scholars, something they
clearly mention, you can read this in ib
as well is that Allah gave
power over the jin to control them and
command them. At the very same time
during those times the shiatin the evil
amongst the jin were teaching people
black arts, magic etc. You know and
these people were writing books and all
of this stuff. So what sulan did
according to these exesis is he gathered
all of these books on magic and occult
practices to remove them from society to
take them away from people so people
didn't commit shik or fall into you know
worshiping these entities or do things
that were that would go against the law
of God. and he buried these books
according to Ib Kafir under his throne.
Um so it wasn't that he had written
these books or he was practicing these
books and they you know therefore they
are found or supposedly found there etc.
is because he was removing these books
from society because people were
engaging in these practices. Um and then
apparently as as Ibin Kir further
outlines that after the the passing of
Sulam that the Shhat emerged to the
people and then led people to where
these books were buried and they
discovered these books and once they
discovered these books the lied again
and they said that Sulan was practicing
was practicing this stuff. These belong
to him and you know these books have
amazing things you can benefit from and
amazing arts and all of this type of
stuff. So again we see the the deceptive
nature of and his minions the shine the
evil amongst the jin acting out at that
point in history. Now obviously there's
a whole discussion whether they accessed
all the books some are remaining or they
accessed them and then put them back and
then the knights templars went in and
took them back and bought them to Europe
etc. So there's a whole you know this
particular discussion goes into it too
in some detail but I think I thought it
was important to clarify that because a
lot of people have this misunderstanding
that Solomon King Solomon Sulamanisam
the prophet of God was engaging in these
no he wasn't he was given command over
these entities as well as command over
many other things but it wasn't through
practices or dark arts it was through
the leave of God gave him command over
these entities
>> let's touch upon your team that I
mentioned and the essay you cover all of
this stuff in your essay and then what
made you guys actually put a team
together. Last time we met you were
explaining that and bring us up to speed
where you're at with that now.
>> Yeah. So the team there's a small team
we put together. It's called Irep
Islamic Research into Exotic Phenomena.
Um and uh we've I published an article
Sapiens Institute. Sapiens is the
organization I currently work with, you
know, and may Allah bless them. They're
very forward thinking in their approach
to the Dawa. So then we're not only
dealing with things that happening now.
we're we're preempting what's coming and
trying to address those issues and
challenges as well. And this is one of
those things we saw back then that okay
there is there are you know there is
this new belief emerging about these
extraterrestrial beings and these you
know godlike creatures that going to
come down and teach us something new and
they're going to you know guide us to a
new future and all of this type of stuff
all of this type of myth that's being
woven into the whole UFO topic. uh and
through through our research what we
realized was that most likely what this
phenomenon as it's referred to is it's
jin manifestations the jin reappearing
to human beings once again in the modern
world and taking on this new form which
should be appealing to the masses
similar very in a very similar way to
have as they have done throughout
history you know in the ancient times
appearing as gods appearing to people so
that people were in awe of them and fell
into their worship uh so we've traced
those links you know and the article
that was originally published I believe
in uh 2022 2023 if I'm not mistaken. Uh
it's on the Sapiens Institute website.
We also have a booklet now uh which me
and brother Farukq Mcderma have
co-authored. You can get that on Amazon.
It's called called the Jin Hypothesis or
you can download it for free on the
Sapiens Institute website as well. But
those those specific pieces of work are
related to the UFO topic in in in
specific. However, when you de dive into
this whole UFO topic, you realize very
quickly that it's not just about seeing
craft in the sky. You know, there's a so
much more going on. There's this whole
paranormal aspect to the UFO topic.
There's this whole psychic aspect to the
UFO topic. There's also like Tucker
Carlson's recent interview that you just
shared. There's all of these other
dimensions to this whole topic which
seem to suggest more strongly that even
more so that this topic is linked to the
gin. Let's go ahead and continue
continue on with this interview. There's
another part exactly what you were
talking about. They get into Sullean
and we're also going to be like you've
been doing continue to clear his name
from these slanders.
>> The jin in Islamic lore is very similar
to like angels and demons or the
watchers in the book of Enoch, right?
Who are not they're both dark and light.
Some some serve God, some serve the dark
side. And um and so the idea of like the
power of Solomon was to be able to have
a relationship and mastery. And some
people say that he actually got
overwhelmed by the power and that's why
he fell, right? He ended up with the the
love affair that sort of sank his his
his rulership. Um because he it's a very
d it's a very dangerous gambit once you
start committing with that side. But all
I believe all the initiatory paths,
Freemasonry is just one of them. The
most famous one
lead you to that realm to that
understanding that there's spiritual
forces invisible to us that are working
through people in this world. And just
because someone is a so-called Christian
doesn't mean they're serving God. And
someone just because someone is a Muslim
doesn't mean they're serving the devil.
that it's the same across the entire
planet that there are forces of dark and
light working through every religion
every people even through our own our
own lifetime our own souls you know at
any point when you grow up in Hollywood
or whatn not you realize
>> your thoughts
>> so a couple of points firstly he
mentions and he makes the link between
the jin and the concept of fallen angels
or the watchers that is found
predominantly in the book of Enoch uh
firstly okay You need to com commend the
fact that he's making these links. It's
very interesting and nice to see that
someone's trying to make these
connections and mention the gin.
However, something for people to realize
is that this concept within
Christianity, this concept of fallen
angels and the watchers, it wasn't
really a highly developed idea prior to
the book of Enoch, which is about 300 BC
if I'm not mistaken, give or take around
that time. So the within Christianity
prior to this, the idea of Satan, the
idea of demonic beings and entities and
spirits, it wasn't very clear. There was
mention of these things, but it wasn't
very clear. And therefore, if you look
at the academic research on the book of
Enoch, now the book of Enoch is, you can
argue the first document 300 BC around
that time, which speaks about the
concept of fallen angels and the
watchers and all of these things and the
stuff they did in a lot more clear
detail. Now the academics seem to some
of them suggest that this was a related
development and the reason it was
developed these ideas was because the
Christian theologians were struggling to
account for evil and suffering in this
world. So they had to explain this
phenomenon of evil and suffering. Uh
also recognizing that God is all
powerful, the most merciful, the most
loving etc. So hence they developed or
there's this idea of that the
development of the idea of fallen angels
beings that come from the heavenly realm
which sold discord and disruption and
all of this stuff on the earth. Um and
therefore this is why also the scholars
mentioned that you know because there
was ideas of demons and other bad
spirits but they didn't ascribe this
evil and to them because if they did
that then they would have to explain
what is a demon where do they come from
and they didn't have this information.
So it made more sense and it was it
seems like it was easier to say oh
angels cuz they knew about angels some
of them fell some of them disobeyed God
fell to the earth and they were the
source of all of the evil and corruption
and all of this stuff right so we and
from an Islamic perspective this is not
again this is the powerful thing about
Islam of the Quran is it clarifies all
of this where all of this confusion
exists it removes it now it's important
to be very nuanced and clear here uh
that yes within our tradition Early on
there was some of the scholars they had
this view that the thatlan
who we call who in Christian terms would
be called Satan, Lucifer etc. Some of
them believe that he was a fallen angel.
Okay. However, the predominant view
today and I think the stronger view
based on the evidences had is that he
was the jin and many of the evidences
for this for example he himself in the
Quran says you know Allah says he was
from the jin m jin he says when refusing
to bow to Adam he says I am created of
fire he is made of clay so here he
outlines himself to be a creation made
of fire and we know the angels are made
of light so he separates himself from
those uh that creation and there's many
other evidences to suggest that his
character Shayan is a jin and not an
angel. Okay. Uh but it's important to
mention that and I think some of the
early scholars who had that view that he
was a fallen angel were influenced
probably some of the Israeli art and
potentially the book of Enoch which was
in circulation most likely at the time.
Um but the Quran clarifies this. He was
a jin. He was not an angel. So within
Islam we have a very clear category
which solves the problem. Now it's not
the angels that fall. Even within early
Christian texts, the angels are known to
be obedient to God. They don't disobey
God. So Islam here clarifies everything.
Yes, there's the angels. They don't
disobey God. They obey God. There's
human beings who can choose to obey or
disobey God. They have that that level
of free will. And then there is also the
jin who also have free will. And Satan
was the jin. these demons, these evil
entities, these ghosts, whatever you
call them, are from the realm of the
jin. So, it's important to make that
clarification that Islam solves this
conundrum and irons everything out for
people in humanity, you know. So, again,
another reason for people researching
this to read the Quran and study it cuz
there's a lot more information in
regards to these entities or these
beings. Um, so I think that was the most
important point in that particular clip.
uh he does go on to sort of mention
Solomon again and you know it's not you
know it had an effect on him all this
stuff again read the Quran in regards to
the life of Solomon the prophet peace be
upon him you know you will you will get
a lot of clarity on who he was what he
did he wasn't engaging in dark arts he
was given control of the jin by the
leave of God gave him this this this
this gift if you like he also had the
control of the winds and the animal
kingdom and so on and so forth. So this
was not through dabbling in dark arts.
This was through the leave of God cuz
God is the creator. He's in control of
all things.
>> This was one of the chooses.
>> This was one of the miracles given to
him.
>> Yes, you can say that. Yes. Yes. And and
this is why the prophet peace be upon
him sallallahu alaihi wasallam you know
he he mentioned that this was a kingdom
once he caught a jin during the the
salah that this was something that was
given to his brother you know prophet
sallam. So he didn't want to catch
capture him or or you know etc. And this
is why it's also generally one of the
reasons is dis encouraged discouraged to
engage with these entities or to you
know you know benefit or try to benefit
from these entities cuz that's a very
slippery slope. So I think the point he
made there about this stuff is dangerous
and shouldn't be doubled with is
correct. You don't want to be messing
around with these entities or these
beings. However, I think he subtly is
also suggesting that freemasonry is not
something that's it's quite neutral.
It's probably something quite good. And
again, I was talking to people involved
in it. And as you probably brother Eddie
know as well, this stuff is highly
involved with these entities. He himself
says within the podcast at one point
that when he was engaging in that ritual
for the first degree or to be initiated
that these entities were present when he
was walking home from the ritual, uh
someone called him and there were some
entities or something on the phone that
were seeing him or watching him. These
things are malev malevolent beings. Now
we know there's good amongst the jin
too. So it's important to clarify this.
However, the good jin don't interfere
with human affairs. They stay to
themselves. They have their own life to
worry about. It's only it's always
almost almost always the evil jin that
that manipulate and interfere with our
lives. And Freemasonry is heavily
involved in ritualistic practices that
are traced back to these ancient texts
on you know occult texts, magic texts
and they are inevitably linked to the
jin and the shin. So be very careful.
Don't engage in this type of stuff.
>> Yeah, that's great advice. This is um
when you let's take it back to what he
was talking about Sullean. This is very
important that if Tucker or anybody
really wants to take it to the next
level, they should is go read the Quran.
You have to look at the context of
everything in in Islam. And one thing
when we go back to let's talk a little
bit more about this slander and you can
not just put this to Sullean but all the
prophets for instance I believe this in
the book of Kings. It talks about how
Sullean
who went off and he drifted off because
of women because love affair and saying
that then he went on to worship false
deities. This is a clear blatant lie and
this is slander. Same thing with uh Loot
Lot and his daughters.
the uh the incest that happened between
them, Noah being a drunkard, Abraham and
the list goes on. Those those people
those enemies of the prophets at that
time you can say that these are the
people because kings is a anonymous
book. It's multiple authors. We don't
know who's writing those books, right?
So now probably be his enemies now are
the people who are putting these fact
fabrications a lot of folk tales and
things in there. Can you comment on that
because this is very important because
now you set a president like the the
prophets who are supposed to be
infallible. They don't commit major
sins. They might make some bas have
human shortcomings. But now if they are
the ones who now we cannot look up to
has living perfect character. Now that's
a one of the biggest traps by the jin
the shatin that then who am I? Who am I
as a human? I don't have something uh or
somebody is a higher standard that I can
c copy of. the prophets can fall like
that then who am I? Can you discuss
this?
>> Yeah. No, absolutely. And I think it's a
a very intuitive point that you've made,
brother Eddie. It's makes sense on many
levels that if these are guides from God
that God has sent these representatives
in the form of these prophets, you know,
may peace, the peace and blessings of
God be upon them all. They came as
examples, exemplary examples for
humanity. Now, to claim that they did X,
Y, or Zed and fell into this sin and
acted out immorally in this way or that
way, it doesn't make any sense. Now the
question I'd ask with all due respect to
our Christian brothers and sisters and I
you know we wish guidance for all of us
including them is that to really ask
yourself
is it befitting of the prophets to
engage in these ways those that are
exemplary guides for humanity you know
sent by God chosen by God I mean I don't
think we have to go further than this
and and this again brings in the point
that the evil jin these entities you
know have a an objective to mislead
human beings. Their leader, El Shan,
who's who Allah outlines, God outlines
in the Quran. And the reason he hates us
so much is outlined in the Quran as
well, which we will probably get into in
a second. But he wants to misguide
people. And he will do it any means
possible. He will do it any way he can.
And you also see a pattern in the way
he's engaged with humanity or misleading
humanity throughout history. He would
always appear to people subtly you know
after the prophets had left or after you
know they okay they first initially
people would want to remember this this
this this prophet or this figure then
they'll build a statue then eventually
you'll come to them and whisper to them
okay you've built the statue but start
worshiping through the statue it becomes
a means of directing your worship and
then the people eventually over the
centuries and decades start to worship
these statues and turn move away from
worshiping God they essentially commit
shik which is associating deities or
partners with God. So, he works
gradually in steps and it's the same
pattern you see throughout history and I
even believe you know based on my
research I think you see his involvement
in the development of many of the
religions and how they've changed over
the centuries. even Paul's vision right
I mean if you think about it with all
due respect and I think uh John Ke one
of the main u eupfologist researchers uh
from back in the day in the 60s and 70s
he actually looked into this as well and
one of the things he outlined was that
Paul's vision I mean ultimately he just
saw a light on the road you know as he
was moving and then this this light he
had this vision and it gave him a
message how do we know how do there's no
way of saying that if anything from the
Islamic perspective knowing that what he
brought you know and how Christianity
changed after this vision. I would argue
that it most likely was a vision that
was stimulated by the shi the evil jin.
It's possible because God
the message has always been the same.
Abraham, Moses, Noah, all of the
prophets, the prophet Muhammad peace be
upon him, Jesus peace be upon him,
worship God alone. He is uniquely one.
He has no partners. He created you. You
will return to him. Right? The message
has fundamentally always been the same.
And suddenly there's a blip. You know,
if you look at it on a on a on a rule,
for example, you have all the prophets,
Abraham, Noah, Moses, all all of them
saying one God, one God, one God, one
God. Suddenly Jesus, peace be upon him,
trinity, triune Godhead, etc. All of
these ideas from Paul that come in. This
is a blip in the data. It's not making
sense, right? It just doesn't make it.
Even the concept of the trinity, and I'm
sure you've discussed this on your show
many, many times, doesn't make sense on
so many levels. And the crazy thing is
that the trinity is is according to the
Christians, this is God, right? This is
the center of your faith, right? This is
what your faith revolves around. Now, if
you can't understand that, and many of
the scholars would say it's a mystery,
don't even touch it. Well, you if you
can't understand who the creator is, how
are you going to worship him? You know,
how are you going to know him? So it's
it's a it's a it's a big thing you know
and I would say that look if you look at
the red letter Bible for example and see
what Jesus Jesus peace be upon him
always called to the father in heaven
and again the term father is again in
the English and if you go back it it
doesn't mean what it means in in a
modern day vernacular etc. There's all
these issues but essentially Jesus
always pointed back towards one God.
Moses pointed back towards the one
creator. Noah pointed back towards the
one creator. However, we see the
interference by these evil jin who want
to mislead us throughout history and
they've gradually worked their way in
into many of the world relig religions
and try to tweak them and manipulate
them to mislead the masses.
>> He talks about and his experience the
Sean Stone that after he came back from
this Masonic lounge of Freemason meeting
that his phone rang and he talks about I
don't know if you got to that part Yeah,
that you did. You saw that part?
>> Yes. Yeah, I saw that part. Yeah.
>> So, for the audience, explain what that
was kind of weird. It's like, okay,
who's calling him and it's like
somebody's checking up on him and it
seems like this is the jin like what is
what is your take on that part?
>> I found it interesting. It's not
surprising. I've heard many such
accounts where you these
>> Yeah. Because the reality is if you read
Dr. Omar alshkar's book the world of the
jin and devils he outlines that the shin
although their primary mechanism of
affecting us may be waswasa you know
these whisperings that they give us
however they can manifest in other ways
they can impact us in other ways right
and and he shares some of these accounts
so what this man is experiencing here is
not something unusual these are
obviously interfering or you know or
manipulating this technology the cell
phone and speaking to him through it
somehow Allah knows best the mechanism
But they are seeing him even behind
closed doors when he's in his house.
What I found really interesting was he
was says he was wearing a necklace with
some sort of Islamic symbol or something
and when he was about to take his shirt
off the the lady on the phone or this
entity said to him, "Put the shirt back
on." They said it to to him to do it a
few times, you know. And I think that
subtly
illustrates if you like the the power of
the Islamic tradition. These entities
don't like even a remotely associated
symbol with Islam. I think it was some
sort of random symbol something remotely
associated with Islam and so you can
only imagine how they may react when the
Quran is recited right and we know of
this if you look at Iraqis people that
do you know the evil the jin they cannot
handle the Quran uh we've been speaking
to someone I recently had a a a talk
with a lady who was channeling uh these
entities um and they didn't want to
admit that they were the jin and as soon
as one of the brothers recited ki they
started to act in a very frantic way, in
a very frazzled type of way. So the
these these entities, you know, you can
tell what these things are. They
manifest in many different ways. They've
manifest they manifest as cryptids. They
manifest as strange creatures. They have
man I believe they're manifesting as
this whole UFO phenomenon, these alien
grays nowadays. Because again, we
mentioned this in the last podcast.
People can go and watch it because I
think we go into a lot of detail in
that. But I mean if you want to mislead
the 20 person of from the 21st century,
the technos secular mind, you know, the
secular atheistic mind, the best way to
do it is to take on a form which they
will be in awe of. Now what form will
they be in awe of? Well, if a highly
evolved, intelligent alien life from
another part of the galaxy who's far
more superior to human beings, millions
of years more superior technologically,
well, that's something we we will be in
awe of. The modern man and woman will be
in awe of. And once you get the people
in a state of awe, then they're ready to
worship. And this is the trick. It's the
same strategy. Same effect as the gods
of the past had on the on the people of
the past. They were in awe of these gods
and then they fell into worship of them.
Same thing today, just the different
guys.
When you talk about the jin,
most of the time many of these groups
come up, the Freemasons, you have uh
with these demonic rituals, uh you have
the secret society, the Knight Templars,
and what are your um because you have
some Muslims actually surprisingly that
have also kind of um joined some of
these groups and at on face value for
anybody who's just kind of like, you
know, looking into it, they say, "Oh,
they do some charity. they're just kind
of like a fraternity. Uh but when you go
deeper, you see they actually even you
have many Christians calling out. They
were part of it, but then they saw that
they actually have their they when you
go deeper, they really get into some
really um some really um bizarre um
crazy, you know, things that um you're
basically you're worshiping another
deity. You know, you have the three
levels, you have the three degrees when
you first come in. You have the
apprentice, fellow craftsman, the master
mason. They just keep bringing you in.
And you have to actually you have to
actually uh swear almost make like a a
um curse that if you divulge any of
these secrets to anybody that may you be
your throat be slit. You're basically
calling a curse upon yourself and your
family members. If you divulge any of
the any of these secrets, then you I
believe you have the Scottish right. You
have the York right. How much have you
looked into this and how much is the jin
connected with uh this this uh group?
>> Yeah. So my analysis of this has been
that all of these groups Freemasonry the
Illuminati and all of these other secret
societies they are heavily involved with
the jin and they are worshiping the jin
under one name or the other or a group
of jin under one name or the other. And
what's really interesting brother Eddie
is that the way they work they take the
methodology of Elim himself
>> in their approach. So for example,
gradual steps, you know, the different
degrees of masonry. And it's funny as
people earlier on in these these these
groups or that join masonry, they're not
even aware of this reality.
>> You know, I many times I've come across
Muslim masons and I've spoken to them
and you tell them this stuff, they have
no idea, right? Like you said, we do
charity. We get together. It's all about
just sharing ideas and, you know, having
a good time and helping humanity.
>> That that's the front to get people in.
>> Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, and
the thing is it's it's called the
psychology of previous investment.
Imagine you join this society. Now,
there's something novel about it,
unique, you know, it's secret. You're a
part of this elite group. It's quite
exciting for people to do stuff like
this. Now, imagine you spend four, five
years with this society. There's this
whole investment of time and energy and
relationships, you know. So by the time
you get to the point say 5 6 7 10 years
down the line and you're at the degree
now where you're let into some of these
darker secrets you're so invested and
you've been conditioned over time subtly
that you don't care you want to be a
part of that stuff you know you're gone
by that that time. Imagine if they were
if these things were told to the people
just going for their first ever meeting
most people will probably run right but
they're not it's subtle it's gradual you
know so and the work in this way as well
um so yeah people need to be very
careful with this stuff and brother
Eddie one more thing you had that same
type of phenomena is appearing amongst
the youth in certain parts of the world
unfortunately today as well Muslims
where they are now trying to engage in
some of these protocols to bring about
contact with what they call these ET
intelligences, extraterrestrial beings,
highly enlightened, spiritually
developed extraterrestrial beings. Same
thing. You're being you're being duped.
You're being lied to. These are not ET.
These are not extraterrestrial. These
are the jin and shhat masquerading in
just a new form. That's all it is. To
misguide you ultimately. That's the end
game. To mislead you, to take you away
from the truth, to take you away from
fulfilling the purpose of your life,
which is to know your creator, Allahh,
God, and to worship him. That's that's
the ultimate goal. That's the end goal.
>> Before we conclude, tell me what what
would you uh tell Tucker Carl Tucker
Carlson? Um he's uh obviously he's been
talking about this. He's into it and
it'd be nice to have someone uh like you
actually connect with him or somebody
else who's uh on this side to kind of
get him more informed. Uh do you what
what advice would you have for Tucker?
So, firstly, I'd like to say I think
from what I've seen of Tucker Carson, he
seems to be a very genuine, honest guy
who's on this journey to to discover
what's really going on. Uh, and I
commend him for that. And I'm I know
he's made some trips to the Middle East
as well, uh, recently or not too long
ago. Um, he's come across the idea of
jin. At least this this podcast may have
been his first introduction. Uh, I would
encourage him, you know, to just look
into this further. Look into what Islam
has to say in regards to these entities
who they refer to as the watchers or the
fallen angels. We call them the jin. Uh
look into what Islam says, what their
abilities are, what they do, why they do
what they do, why they hate us so much.
All of the information is there within
the Quran. And I'll really encourage and
I know sometimes for the secular mind or
even for our Christian friends, you
know, when you mention Islam or the
Quran, there's almost this barrier that
comes up because of all of this this
negative misinformation that's been out
there about Islam over the past few
decades. And the obviously have a hand
to play in this as well. I mean, the
Epstein files have revealed some of this
to us recently. But just to look past
that for a moment, even if you approach
the Quran as a historical document, even
if you don't believe in it, just
approach it, right? just honestly
approach it. See what it says, you know,
and if you are honest, as God says, God
guides. Anyone that's honest and and
wants to know the truth, Allah will
guide them. You know, God will guide
them. And you will find some fascinating
things in the Quran which will help you
connect the dots in regards to this
whole phenomena. Whether you look
whether you're looking at it from the
perspective of UFOs or the occult or the
these evil demonic entities or you know
whatever whatever angle you're looking
at the jin the concept of jin as
outlined in Islam the information that
we've been given in the Quran about the
jin provides us with a model an entity a
being conceptually that can make sense
of and account for all every single
paranormal phenomena that's been
witnessed you know for god knows how
long and all of the UFO phenomenon. It
explains everything that's going on in
the occult. It explains everything
that's going on in these secret
societies, etc. It's all there in the
Quran. That's the amazing thing. That's
what people are missing, you know. And
obviously, these forces, you know,
whether they're from the metaphysical
realm or the physical realm, they want
you to stay away from this divine
knowledge. They don't want you to access
the truth which is contained within the
Quran. They will do anything to keep you
away from this final revelation which is
for the whole of humanity. It's not for
the Arabs. It's not for the Pakistanis
or the Indians or a certain group of
people or a certain culture or a certain
race. It's for the whole of humanity.
It's all there for Tucker Carlson. I'll
really encourage him if he's interested
in the UFO stuff or the occult stuff.
I'll be more than happy to engage him if
he wants to sort of, you know, talk
about this and discuss this any further
privately, publicly, not an issue. you
know, we can if or brother Eddie or
whoever he wants to touch touch base
with. I'm more than happy to inform him
to discuss these points to learn from
him as well. See what he knows because
he's talked to a lot of lot of people.
Um but yeah, that's that would be my
message for him. Just be stay sincere
and honest on your journey as we all
should keep looking uh and you'll find
some fascinating things within Islam in
regards to this stuff.
>> This is definitely for someone into this
another piece a major piece to the
puzzle right here. the Quran, Islam, and
obviously uh we know the Quran is the
verbatim word of God Almighty. It's the
truth. And of course, the devils don't
want you to be invested to look into the
truth. So, you're going to obviously
just food for thought for him and
anybody else out there who's seeking the
truth is that they're going to put so
many obstacles. They're going to make
look Islam like the other. They're going
to go ahead and put all this junk over
the treasure, right? make people, you
know, have so so many stereotypes and
prejudices against it. But if you're
sincere and you're asking the creator to
guide you, then God almighty Allah will
facilitate a way. Going back to just
what came to my mind, these phenomenons
that you mentioned like when they made
the the the golden calf obviously didn't
just worship it. It was a calf. It's
because the the jin came in made that
sound, right? or when when somebody uh
has some some because we know that you
mentioned Paul and visions and whatnot
these phenomenas
that when we know that dreams can come
in different types you can have the
ramblings of your mind you can have uh
the devil right or inspiration from God
but now you have people who have these
um jin experiences or somebody I
remember one time I was uh in a AB and
the person we were going back and forth
and talking and he was stuck on this
miracle that happened to him and it
wasn't nothing intellectual academic he
was like no Jesus saved me I said how
because I had my arm and I couldn't move
it and then somebody prayed over it and
said name of Jesus I said that that's
the jin because the jin can come in and
you can have it affecting the part of
your body and now you committed shitik
which is one of the worst crimes you can
do associating partners with God you
call in another deity and then the jin
leaves and now You think that okay
because of this uh created being or this
person that incantation was recited over
that you're healed but the only one that
truly heals is the creator of the
heavens and the earth. Is this correct?
Absolutely, brother Eddie. And there's
so many examples of this where some of
these magicians or or or channelers,
they may, you know, send a gin to cause
an affliction upon a person within their
body and then the person comes to them
and then all they do is just just remove
that gin and and and effect is gone.
>> And and that's the deception. That's an
element of deception. And the person
thinks they've been healed because of so
and so and because they prayed to so and
so, you know. And I think this is
another very interesting thing. He and
again I I encourage our Christian
friends and brothers and sisters in
humanity to really
look into the history of religion as
well. The prophets always brought the
very clear intuitive rational message
about God which is he's uniquely one. He
has no partners. He is the creator. The
creator is not like his creation. As
Allah says there is no equal to him.
There's no likeness to God in any way,
shape or form. There's no kufu. There is
nothing similar. There's no similitude.
God is uniquely one. The eternal without
beginning, without end. As soon as you
start to say God becomes flesh, became
man, died, suffered, didn't know, etc.,
etc., this is not God anymore. You're
not speaking about God. And this is the
type of ultimate deception that the the
Shia and the evil jin want you to go
down. So, and and you made the and I
think this is important to highlight.
And again, I don't say this to offend
anybody, just for people to reflect.
Well, sometimes you see that you know
certain de demonologists will come and
pray in the name of Jesus and you know
the person possessed that the evil
entity leaves them and the possession is
over and people ask even Muslims ask
well why is this happening you know why
is it happening in the name of Jesus
well I always highlight to them hold on
what is the ultimate objective of
shaitan ofl is to take people away from
the worship of god now by removing
himself in the name of Jesus he's just
confirmed that belief that Jesus is God
essentially he's confirmed their shik is
leading them further down that dark path
so his ultimate objective is met you
know so just because he's left and
although it seems like to the people he
left because it was done in the name of
Jesus no he left to enforce that type of
shik within the person's mind you know
so this is important for people to
realize once you know who God is and you
recognize he's uniquely one he has no
partners he has no parts he doesn't come
into his existence he's the creator of
of all existence. He's perfect in every
way, shape or form. You know, as God is
perfect, as soon as you say he becomes
something other than God by coming into
his creation, you're removing him from
perfection. This is not God anymore.
This is not Allah. This is not the
creator of the heavens and the earth. If
you can realize that and then you if you
got that clear understanding of who God
is, everything else will start to fall
into place. you'll start to see the
patterns and the lines of deception
thatl, you know, or the webs that he he
weaves to mislead people and lead people
further down uh these these deceptive
paths and and into shook. Um it's the
same game. It's the same game, brother
Eddie, that's been carried out the same
ways, same strategies throughout
history. Just different faces. That's
all it is.
>> Thank you. So, it was our special guest
from Sapiens Institute. Give my salams
to Hamza Zorses. How's he doing giving?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, he's good. He's good. Busy.
>> Alhamdulillah.
>> At Sapiens Institute, that's where
people can u learn more about you and
also you guys have uh tell us a little
bit uh they can connect there.
>> Yeah. So, Sapiens Institute, you can
search it on Google. All of our we have
loads of free courses, books, materials.
Inshallah, we have the academy. And then
if you're interested in this topic
specifically, you can find a lot more
resources on my channel. Uh it's called
Epistemics, Immran Hussein, Epistemics,
Epi Smix.
Uh I've got several videos and I
actually uploaded the discussion with
the the the group of Shin that were
channeling through uh this lady a few
days ago. So you can go and listen to
that because and you'll see how they try
to lie about Allahh and the nature of
God uh and and the deception that they
weave. So that's there and there's a lot
more resources there as well. Inshallah.
Wait, you you have you have you actually
have a a video of a gin possession that
uh is on video.
>> Yeah. So, it's it's it's a slightly
different form. So, it's not what you
consider a typical possession where the
are speaking through the person and and
the person is not in control. It's more
of a channeling type of possession, I
would say, where they are speaking to
her and she's basically getting these
images and and information in her head
and then she's speaking or saying what
they've told her to say. Mhm.
>> So, we were speaking to this lady and
we're telling her how these entities
that she's believed to be good all this
time, they may actually be the evil jin,
the as soon as we say that to her, they
apparently come to her and they start
channeling through her and they start to
then they come up with all of these
strange ideas about God and we correct,
you know, we clarify those things for
them and by extension, inshallah, a lot
of people that were listening in because
we had a lot of non-Muslims listening in
too. Inshallah, they will receive the
message of Islam too through that. And
when I ask them specifically are are
they recognized as the jin amongst the
Arabs? The first thing they say is we've
been known as many different things
throughout history and then I say okay
no but amongst the Arabs were they known
as the jin and they were silent and then
they're like
>> and she's like they're not they're not
willing to answer that question
like okay that's quite obvious.
>> Yeah. Thank you, brother.