Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Matthew
who? Mark who? Luke who? John who? Hey
everybody. The Gospels of Matthew, Mark,
Luke, and John were all written
anonymously and almost certainly not by
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. None of
the Gospels actually explicitly names
their authors. The closest we get is the
Gospel of John, saying that the beloved
disciple was the one who wrote these
things. But the very next statement is
we know that his testimony is true. We
also have the author speaking in the
first person plural in the first chapter
on two different occasions. And so most
likely the Gospel of John was written by
a group of people whose primary source
was a narrative account written by
someone they identified as the beloved
disciple who was later identified as the
Apostle John. Now the first person to
actually assign traditional authorship
to the four gospels as we know them
today was Irenaeus of Lions who was
writing around 180 CE. So a full century
or more after the composition of the
gospels does not mean that we condemned
our texts. Remember the Islamic golden
empire where we taught but the same
people he's trying to please will be
displeased with them.
Academic world is that a world of
atheism?
You first have to believe in the text if
you want to teach the text.
You had mentioned something within
from within.
Yeah. So I mentioned, you know, even
within, unfortunately, we have those
that are attacking, you know, the uh um
making statements that can be used to
attack the authenticity of our texts, of
our books, of our traditions. And again,
you know, there are um reasons for this,
but um it is something that, you know,
we have to address and have to speak up
for the sake of uh removing doubt. You
know, one of these figures uh is Yaser
Khadi. Um you know he's a person of
knowledge, a person of of great
intellect. Um he has achieved a lot of
things but recently he's made some
statements which a lot of people are
taking out of context but the way in
which he states it the words that he
used to explain it and the format and
the platform in which he said uh and
challenged uh the authenticity of our
traditions um is problematic. Of course
as a Muslim we have for every Muslim.
So, we're always going to try to make
excuses, but as the scholars, they tell
us, when a person makes a statement in
public, then it gives us the right to
respond in public. But we have nothing
but love and admiration for all of the
people who are striving to call the
people to the worship of Allah. But yes,
you know, um, you know, even his
statement recently where he expressed
his challenges as an academic and as a
sheh, you know, how do we, you know,
walk that line, which is pretty
unfortunate because, uh, the sheh
makes it seem as if a person has to
choose. You know, I believe one of his
statements in the video was, you know,
um when I am I will say Allah said and
his messenger said, but as an academic,
whoa, where's the divide? You know,
we're supposed to be Muslims, as an
academic, as a construction worker, as a
bus driver, as a milkman. You're always
supposed to be in your faith. You never
have to switch hats. But you know what
it seems? And Allah knows best where his
intention is. It appears that you know
uh he's trying to appease the world of
academia perhaps for acceptance and he
knows in that world they do not accept
certain text and so he's willing to say
I won't mention these texts in their
presence so that I may be received as an
academic but when I'm in Islamic circles
I will quote those texts and you know it
really does injustice because there's a
lot of work that we're doing to tell the
youth that you don't have to choose
between being religious and pursuing
worldly uh goals and objectives. And it
seems from this statement and uh that
he's stating yes um if you want to be
religious this is the way you have to
speak and if you want to be an academic
then this is the way you have to speak
and it's unfortunate
because we know there's much good that
has come from him especially with his s
lessons and and other um lessons that
he's taught in the past. Can can there
be any doubt now that in the hadith
that we have any
differences amongst the major scholars
or anything now that in the six books of
hadith
because we know you cannot have Islam
without the second part you have the
Quran
correct
and then you have pro Muhammad who's
showing you how to implement it so you
got prayer zakat
you have all these things that I mean
that's a miracle of itself is there and
you know
is there any dou out that this doesn't
reach Prophet Muhammad with all of the
isnah the science of it you know the A
said B said C and we know who A is who B
is and many of these people now who are
narrating let's say in a history class
you go into a history class
and now they're talking about Abraham
Lincoln or George Washington academics
in the Islamic science you'd probably
throw this out this would be it wouldn't
be considered
it wouldn't be authentic I mean in the
Islamic sciences we wouldn't be able to
accept any of the gospels Because the
authors of the gospels are all on
firstname basis. Matthew, Mark, Luke,
and John. Matthew who? Mark who? Luke
who? John who? So, we wouldn't be able
to accept these.
This was this was conveniently ascribed
to them. These are anonymous books.
It's not his books. They're conveniently
ascribed and without their e their last
names. We don't know what families they
come from because these are European
names to begin with and the like. Yes,
you know, going back to the question
about, you know, the hadith in and of
itself, um, without a shadow of a doubt,
um, there is no scholar, whether major
or minor, that disputes with the
authenticity of the a hadith, the
narrations going back to the prophet
Muhammad, may peace and blessings be
upon him, there is no differences of
opinion in this area and in this
category. The problem is when you're
trying to fit an Islamic tradition
within a western non-religious science
and this is the problem that he is
expressing that according to academic
world according to historical uh uh
documentation the rules that they have
defined as to what makes it and what is
authentic then uh our sciences do not
reach their level. Well, I mean, of
course, if you're going to their biased
rules of documentation, then of course
um our science won't reach their level.
But we are missing the point. And the
point is that this system that he's
describing, the world of academia has
its own inherent biases, right? And it
is not the end all beall. Just because
our text or any other religious text
does not meet a marker within western
school does not mean that we condemned
our texts. Remember that before western
colleges, Harvard, Cambridge and all of
these things, they came into the Middle
East. They came into North Africa. They
came into the Islamic Golden Empire
where we taught colleges and
universities and educations. Even the
cap and gown is from Muslim and Islamic
tradition. It is from the th and from
the turban that we emulate today. Every
graduation across the world is wearing a
cap and wearing a gown because we've
learned the sciences from the Middle
East. And now we've reached a point
where we want to break oursel away and
make it look like their religious
teachings is backwards. No, our science
is clear that every single tradition
from among them are those that reach the
prophet. And we acknowledge that there
are certain traditions that don't, but
we have a system that is complete.
However, if you're going to try to
please the academics, then you're going
to fall into error. And again, it just
reminds me of the hadith of the
prophetam in which he says that
whosoever strives to please the people
at the displeasure of Allah, Allah will
be displeased with him. But the same
people he's trying to please will be
displeased with him. So these same
individuals that he's saying you know as
an academic you know we don't quote the
hadith if these same academics whether
they express it or not look down upon
you because of the faith that you adhere
to but the way in which he made his
statements it seems like uh he he only
quotes texts when he's amongst Muslims
and he doesn't when he's amongst
non-Muslims which is just not the best
way to word it. Now you are not
unfamiliar with academia. You're an
academic. You're a PhD also. What's been
your experience? I mean are most of
these academics that academic world is
that a world of atheism?
So a lot of these uh
are these atheist academics we're
talking about?
Yeah. So yes, you know um uh they would
not like to be labeled as atheist
academics.
uh however um they reach a point uh
where they believe um that uh they know
more than what the text reveals and so
this is where you run into problems
they don't believe in the oral tradition
also
they don't believe in oral tradition
they believe in it to an extent uh you
know and um they also have their own
biases and I think we cannot forget that
you know every system has a bias and a
lot of these instructors and a lot of
these teachers that we meet we must
first recognize what their bias is so we
know the limit by which we can take from
them
and then we must take whatever is
beneficial from them and move forward
because there is no teacher that we're
going to find in the western world that
is going to uh preach Islam from an
Islamic point of view if they were then
they would be Muslims themselves and we
know that a lot of these programs that
are taught in Harvard and other
institutions uh they are taught by
instructors who are not Muslims
Right. So I think you know how strange
would it be for a um a non-Jew to teach
a rabbitical course. I mean it just
sounds like an oxymoron. You first have
to believe in the text if you want to
teach the text. However, we have schools
and institutions that are trying to
delve into the Islamic sciences while
they themselves not being a believer.
While the first condition to teach these
texts is to believe in these texts.
Allah says
This book is from the Lord of the worlds
and in it there is no uh dispute. It's
certain. It's certain and it requires us
to be people of Y and certainty.
There's been horror stories when people
I'm sure you've heard some of these
where you'll have a academic teaching
Islam,
right? and now he's got the information,
but then just he's making so many
blunders correct on a on a first grade
level that now he's a PhD in Islam and
he's taking jabs at Islam. He's
purposely distorting it. Yeah.
He's got his own biases. He's not
supposed to as a teacher, he's supposed
to be well balanced.
Have you heard of these? I've heard
these.
Yes. Yes, I've heard of these people
many times. And uh you know regarding
that issue in particular, I would say
that you know for instance our brother
that um there is a place to say we need
our scholars to enter into these
institutions to get these levels of
recognition amongst the west so that he
may be able to draw a greater audience
that there are those who will only
respect scholarship from western
institutions. But what we should not do
is reach a point where we become too we
express ourselves as two different
individuals. Meaning that the person
that sees you on campus wouldn't
recognize you in the masid and the way
that you're speaking. You know, there
has to be this level of autonomy where
this is the way in which you carry
yourself in all circles. And
irregardless of what your peers may
accept from you, then there is something
called agree to disagree. And even
historical scholars disagree on certain
issues. So why is there this feeling and
this need to appease them in certain
areas where you as a believer believe is
authentic unless it's coming from a
point of wanting to be embraced and
wanting to be accepted. But whoever
tries to be accepted by all um will
always come up short. You know, as they
say, a friend to all is an enemy to
himself.
And this is not the gold standard.
Right. Right.
I mean, you were mentioning before we
started that now you have the
Islamic sciences and you have this um at
one time in history, they're only
catching up.
They're only catching up
catching up to the Muslims, right,
in many areas,
right? I mean, you know, again, when I
first heard uh, you know, Shikas Khadi's
statement, you know, I thought to
myself, what is the benefit in saying
this, right? I mean, how many times has
science caught up to what the Quran and
the hadith has taught us? So, in
general, he's saying, "Hey, if someone
can come down the line and prove it, I'm
waiting for it." Okay, that day will
come for you. For us in the Muslim
world, we already accept. But if you are
waiting for the day where the western
world acknowledges our science, I
believe that day will come because the
western world is always behind Islamic
prophecies and Islamic sciences.
However, what you may have failed to
realize in that moment because of your
fame and who you are. There are a lot of
Muslims who are struggling with
themselves to uh act according to the
hadith and that statement may have
allowed them to say, "Oh, I don't have
to do this." Eveni says it's not
authentic. So forget practicing what I
find in the hadith. I will just leave
myself to the Quran. And that's a danger
in and of itself. You have to understand
that there are certain settings where
certain statements should not be used.
And I think if you were to speak to him
today, I think he would uh take back or
change the way in which he worded it.
However, the words that already left his
mouth, you know, showed uh you know was
problematic showing that so many of our
uh scholars have had to comment on his
statement. You know, they've a lot of
people have come out have have commented
you know trying to clarify his statement
or clean up you know his statement.
You've had people the u the opponents of
Islam who are saying this is a gift
keeps on giving. So do you think it's
important because now you know when a
person dies
and they're trying to decipher what this
person meant that it's kind of been kind
of left vague that you've given
ammunition
to these opponents enemies of the of
Islam of God that you need to come out
and really really clarify make it
crystal clear lucidly clear that now
this is what I meant because now people
are running with things
yes
that you might not have meant. Yes, I
would say that.
Should he come? We've actually invited
him to come on.
Give him a pl to go ahead and to make it
clear.
Yes. Yes.
To make it crystal clear.
Yeah. But but what I mean do you think
he he needs to do that?
Um you know I say
from an Islamic perspective
from an Islamic point of view I say you
know if I was friends with him and I'm
tell not friends with him you know I
would say you know shake um you have to
make a decision.
Do you want to commit yourself to the
academic world? Then go in Harvard and
stay in Harvard and Cambridge and go in
those circles and preach and teach and
at least you have an Islamic background
where you'll be able to insert some of
our uh beliefs in the text and maybe you
can change a few lives in that area. or
if you want to stay in the Muslim world
and just operate in the in the Muslim
world. I mean two billion we need you as
a teacher stay in this realm. You cannot
wear both hats. You by your own
admission saying I have to put on this
hat here and that hat here. I would say
pick one as his friend. I would say pick
one. What do you choose? Do you choose
to just be that scholar and that example
for us because there's much work to be
done here and leaving this behind you
already received their accreditation or
do you want to go into the academic
world by dipping in both you're creating
more confusion and you're giving weapons
and presence to the enemies of Islam to
undermine the religion even if that
isn't your intention. But of course as
Muslims as we mentioned we have no and
we're not going to sit here and uh you
know help the shaitan against our
brother. um you know many people have uh
benefited from shikasar kadi in his
classes and his lessons but I believe
that because of his stature it's
important for him to come on a platform
and again to express and to clarify but
moving forward not to make the same
mistake because this is not the first
time that he's had to clarify his
positions where clips have come out
where he's talked about the authenticity
of the Quran and the authenticity of the
hadith and again we understand what he
means the people of knowledge when he's
making his arguments
But the average person does not
understand half of what he means other
than the tradition doesn't go back to
the that's all they heard. They didn't
hear the estemology, the historical
epmology. You're not talking to a group
of scholars. These recordings are going
out to the masses of the people. And so
it requires for you to do these
follow-ups. You may not feel that you
need to do a follow-up, but your words
are going to the reaching layman's ears
and they're not able to keep up with
your verbiage. So come on a platform or
go live and make it very clear. The um
doesn't want to hate you. We want more
people doing the work of Allah and
calling the people to Islam and we're
here to support you. But you cannot uh
you know delve in both realms and please
both parties. Look at the hadith of the
prophet sallallaihi wasallam. The
prophetam he said
there is no leader except that he will
find two groups of people.
A group of people that's ordering him
and encourage him to do good and stay
away from the evil.
A group that only encourages to corrupt
him. The prophet he says
that leader will be associated with the
group that has the greater influence
over him. So the prophet is saying any
leader will always have two people
pulling on him and you will be
associated with that group that has the
greatest influence over you. At this
point watching you, it appears that
academia and wanting to be accepted in
western circles is having a greater
influence over you because time and time
again you are, you know, explaining uh
Islam through a western lens. And I say
there's so much good that you have done
uh on an Islamic front. Let us continue
to build on the Islamic front and
continue to teach and not create
confusion uh uh by comparing contrasts.
Yeah, very important. And you got to
come out and sometimes because some
people are just uh they're not at that
level of understanding. You got to dumb
it down.
You have to dumb it down. Especially
when these clips are going to go viral,
you know. I mean, listen to the half of
the language. You listen to the clip.
You can't understand much of anything
that he's saying unless you're academic
and you're familiar with these terms.
But you do hear when he says it doesn't
go back to the prophet.
Yeah. I I would be scared to die
tomorrow and leave that up there like
that. Yeah. You got you got to come on.
You got to clarify. You got to go like
you said live. Get out there and make it
crystal clear, lucidly clear. This is
what I meant. Dumb it down as much as
possible. So nobody none of these
haters. Shut them all down that they can
run with your your stuff and use it as
ammunition.
Right. And it's not even about coming at
you. Uh because you know at this point I
know he probably feels that a lot of
people are coming at him and a lot of
people who aren't on his level of fame
may be using this moment to gain more
followers. Um you know may Allah protect
us from being those types of people. Uh
but uh the prophet sallallahu alaihi
wasallam said that um one of the worst
things that a believer can do is be a
means for someone being misguided. And
so just for that sake that you don't
want to be a reason someone else is
misguided. You should never feel resist
coming out and clarifying because you
never want to be the reason why someone
else has left Islam or lacks faith in
Islam or begins to practice Islam less.
So there's nothing wrong with coming out
and clarifying your statements and
making it clear. How many times was the
prophet confronted by the rabbis of his
time or by the leaders of Qur saying oh
Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam make
it clear what you are saying. What do
you want us to worship? Why should we
worship this? And time and time again,
Allah would reveal ayat. Allah would
inspire hadith so that he can respond to
these claims. So we must always be in a
position to respond and to clarify for
the sake of not being a means of the
misguidance of other people. And we
don't want our sheh to be used as fuel
for the enemies to misguide and to
misrepresent the religion. And I can
feel Allah knows it's in your heart but
I can feel I can feel that your your
intention that you really want good to
come from from him from this or
Yes. Yes. Yes. I really want good to
come from him and from this you know at
this point um you know there is no
benefit that we get in jumping on anyone
who is in the space of the da. We have
enough enemies and you know uh it is
because of a lot of the infighting that
we are doing that we are paralyzed when
it comes to the issue of Palestine. We
are paralyzed when it comes to the issue
of what's happening in Sudan and across
the world. So we need to stop with the
fighting. We need to advise one another
publicly, privately, with sincerity
because at the end of the day what
matters is the the the the the people of
faith and bringing people to Islam. So
you know I say this with no malice. I
don't want anyone to take any clip out
of context. Let them listen to the uh
interview in its entirety. Come forward,
make it clear so that no one is
misguided.
I feel the love coming from you,
brother. Thank you very much for being
with us. And again, it's the author,
Dr. Hassan. Here we open up with this
book. Where can people get the the book?
You've written another four books,
right?
Yes. Yes. So, I've written uh four books
um self-published. Um this book is
guided by stars, the benefits of
honoring parents. And alhamdulillah, I
was able to have Dr. Bell Phillips uh
read the book and write the forward for
the book and endorse the book. Uh but
there are three other books um that I
have written as well. A call for unity
is one. Uh a third book is um only to
raqa the benefits of the prayer and the
fourth book is developing morals to
purify the soul. It's a translation of
an ancient manuscript from one of our
pious scholars of old Ibnam alooi. All
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available with us.
Thank you, brother. Thank you,
man. Thank you for the opportunity. I've
been watching this show for years years
and it's such a pleasure to be here. I
see the great work that you're doing.
May Allah put baraka in your time and
your effort and in what you're trying to
build here in this dean center. It's
amazing and we need more centers like
this. the enemies of Islam and I say
that uh intentionally. They are working
around the clock and they are working
together to undermine this religion and
we need facilities like this where
da'wah is being preached where the true
message of Islam has an a voice and
where you can continue to do and to
reach the millions of people that you've
been reaching. May Allah bless you for
this. May Allah accept it and may Allah
continue to keep you on this path. And I
hope that all of the people that you
invite to uh come and sit here with you,
I tell you it's very easy and very nice.
So inshallah will follow me up here and
you know we'll be able to clarify his uh
his his statements.
I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
Alhamdulillah, people are getting to see
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