1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,790 I'm almost ashamed to tell you that 2 00:00:02,790 --> 00:00:02,800 I'm almost ashamed to tell you that 3 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,749 I'm almost ashamed to tell you that >> the more they make me fight, the worse 4 00:00:05,749 --> 00:00:05,759 >> the more they make me fight, the worse 5 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:06,950 >> the more they make me fight, the worse it's going to be for them. 6 00:00:06,950 --> 00:00:06,960 it's going to be for them. 7 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,030 it's going to be for them. >> Greetings of peace. Recently, Joe Rogan 8 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:09,040 >> Greetings of peace. Recently, Joe Rogan 9 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:10,709 >> Greetings of peace. Recently, Joe Rogan had this guest on his show 10 00:00:10,709 --> 00:00:10,719 had this guest on his show 11 00:00:10,719 --> 00:00:13,270 had this guest on his show >> that that was actually located in her 12 00:00:13,270 --> 00:00:13,280 >> that that was actually located in her 13 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,749 >> that that was actually located in her handbag and caused serious concern. 14 00:00:15,749 --> 00:00:15,759 handbag and caused serious concern. 15 00:00:15,759 --> 00:00:17,670 handbag and caused serious concern. >> Well, now imagine if they never found 16 00:00:17,670 --> 00:00:17,680 >> Well, now imagine if they never found 17 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,830 >> Well, now imagine if they never found her, they never caught her and she 18 00:00:19,830 --> 00:00:19,840 her, they never caught her and she 19 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,590 her, they never caught her and she completed that. 20 00:00:21,590 --> 00:00:21,600 completed that. 21 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,509 completed that. >> I mean, it's really terrifying. 22 00:00:23,509 --> 00:00:23,519 >> I mean, it's really terrifying. 23 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:25,109 >> I mean, it's really terrifying. >> It wipes out most of the country 24 00:00:25,109 --> 00:00:25,119 >> It wipes out most of the country 25 00:00:25,119 --> 00:00:26,950 >> It wipes out most of the country >> and also just in the most horrific way. 26 00:00:26,950 --> 00:00:26,960 >> and also just in the most horrific way. 27 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,669 >> and also just in the most horrific way. I mean, you know, like having to like 28 00:00:29,669 --> 00:00:29,679 I mean, you know, like having to like 29 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:31,910 I mean, you know, like having to like look at your pet and be like, is my pet 30 00:00:31,910 --> 00:00:31,920 look at your pet and be like, is my pet 31 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:32,950 look at your pet and be like, is my pet rabbit? It's just 32 00:00:32,950 --> 00:00:32,960 rabbit? It's just 33 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,110 rabbit? It's just >> she's sending dead catcher, too. Another 34 00:00:35,110 --> 00:00:35,120 >> she's sending dead catcher, too. Another 35 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:35,670 >> she's sending dead catcher, too. Another project. 36 00:00:35,670 --> 00:00:35,680 project. 37 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,470 project. >> She was really talking about some scary 38 00:00:38,470 --> 00:00:38,480 >> She was really talking about some scary 39 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:40,869 >> She was really talking about some scary out of this world frightening stuff. 40 00:00:40,869 --> 00:00:40,879 out of this world frightening stuff. 41 00:00:40,879 --> 00:00:43,030 out of this world frightening stuff. She's been doing her rounds. She was 42 00:00:43,030 --> 00:00:43,040 She's been doing her rounds. She was 43 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,990 She's been doing her rounds. She was also featured on the Danny show, Annie 44 00:00:45,990 --> 00:00:46,000 also featured on the Danny show, Annie 45 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,270 also featured on the Danny show, Annie the Storyteller. 46 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:47,280 the Storyteller. 47 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,630 the Storyteller. >> Aa Sadiki. Aia Sadiki. 48 00:00:52,630 --> 00:00:52,640 >> Aa Sadiki. Aia Sadiki. 49 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,150 >> Aa Sadiki. Aia Sadiki. Um, 50 00:00:54,150 --> 00:00:54,160 Um, 51 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,470 Um, she was captured in Afghanistan. She was 52 00:00:56,470 --> 00:00:56,480 she was captured in Afghanistan. She was 53 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,670 she was captured in Afghanistan. She was the first woman on the most wanted 54 00:00:59,670 --> 00:00:59,680 the first woman on the most wanted 55 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,590 the first woman on the most wanted terrorist list for the FBI. This is 56 00:01:01,590 --> 00:01:01,600 terrorist list for the FBI. This is 57 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,910 terrorist list for the FBI. This is during the height of the war on terror. 58 00:01:03,910 --> 00:01:03,920 during the height of the war on terror. 59 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,550 during the height of the war on terror. >> Now, telling stories is one thing, but 60 00:01:06,550 --> 00:01:06,560 >> Now, telling stories is one thing, but 61 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,870 >> Now, telling stories is one thing, but being a complete liar to sell your books 62 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:08,880 being a complete liar to sell your books 63 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,910 being a complete liar to sell your books is another thing. My next guest has been 64 00:01:11,910 --> 00:01:11,920 is another thing. My next guest has been 65 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,789 is another thing. My next guest has been representing Dr. Afia pro bono. That 66 00:01:14,789 --> 00:01:14,799 representing Dr. Afia pro bono. That 67 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:17,429 representing Dr. Afia pro bono. That means for free. He's not getting paid. 68 00:01:17,429 --> 00:01:17,439 means for free. He's not getting paid. 69 00:01:17,439 --> 00:01:21,109 means for free. He's not getting paid. Clar Stanford Smith had this to say 70 00:01:21,109 --> 00:01:21,119 Clar Stanford Smith had this to say 71 00:01:21,119 --> 00:01:24,149 Clar Stanford Smith had this to say directly to Joe Rogan after seeing this 72 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:24,159 directly to Joe Rogan after seeing this 73 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:26,789 directly to Joe Rogan after seeing this storytelling liar on his program, the 74 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:26,799 storytelling liar on his program, the 75 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:29,109 storytelling liar on his program, the Joe Rogan Show. He said, "Dear Joe 76 00:01:29,109 --> 00:01:29,119 Joe Rogan Show. He said, "Dear Joe 77 00:01:29,119 --> 00:01:31,350 Joe Rogan Show. He said, "Dear Joe Rogan, I'm afraid you have been fed a 78 00:01:31,350 --> 00:01:31,360 Rogan, I'm afraid you have been fed a 79 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,069 Rogan, I'm afraid you have been fed a pack of nonsense by this lady. She is 80 00:01:34,069 --> 00:01:34,079 pack of nonsense by this lady. She is 81 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:37,429 pack of nonsense by this lady. She is wrong on every single one of her facts. 82 00:01:37,429 --> 00:01:37,439 wrong on every single one of her facts. 83 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:39,429 wrong on every single one of her facts. I have been to Afghanistan five times 84 00:01:39,429 --> 00:01:39,439 I have been to Afghanistan five times 85 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:41,990 I have been to Afghanistan five times and have the evidence. Should you like 86 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:42,000 and have the evidence. Should you like 87 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,390 and have the evidence. Should you like to discuss Joe Rogan?" So, when I saw 88 00:01:44,390 --> 00:01:44,400 to discuss Joe Rogan?" So, when I saw 89 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,670 to discuss Joe Rogan?" So, when I saw this, I was like, "Wow." You know, I 90 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:47,680 this, I was like, "Wow." You know, I 91 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,429 this, I was like, "Wow." You know, I like Joe Rogan, and I think he'll 92 00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:49,439 like Joe Rogan, and I think he'll 93 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:52,630 like Joe Rogan, and I think he'll appreciate us bringing him the facts 94 00:01:52,630 --> 00:01:52,640 appreciate us bringing him the facts 95 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,789 appreciate us bringing him the facts regarding this case and exposing what 96 00:01:54,789 --> 00:01:54,799 regarding this case and exposing what 97 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:58,230 regarding this case and exposing what his guests not just got wrong, but 98 00:01:58,230 --> 00:01:58,240 his guests not just got wrong, but 99 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,550 his guests not just got wrong, but fabricated. And we're not stopping 100 00:02:00,550 --> 00:02:00,560 fabricated. And we're not stopping 101 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,590 fabricated. And we're not stopping there. We'll also hear what former US 102 00:02:03,590 --> 00:02:03,600 there. We'll also hear what former US 103 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,149 there. We'll also hear what former US Attorney General Ramsay Clark had to say 104 00:02:06,149 --> 00:02:06,159 Attorney General Ramsay Clark had to say 105 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:09,350 Attorney General Ramsay Clark had to say about this case after dedicating a good 106 00:02:09,350 --> 00:02:09,360 about this case after dedicating a good 107 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,390 about this case after dedicating a good portion of of his life on this. These 108 00:02:12,390 --> 00:02:12,400 portion of of his life on this. These 109 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,030 portion of of his life on this. These are people who knew the facts. Ramsey 110 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:15,040 are people who knew the facts. Ramsey 111 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,830 are people who knew the facts. Ramsey Clark and former US presidential 112 00:02:17,830 --> 00:02:17,840 Clark and former US presidential 113 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,150 Clark and former US presidential candidate and he's a two-term US senator 114 00:02:20,150 --> 00:02:20,160 candidate and he's a two-term US senator 115 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,110 candidate and he's a two-term US senator Michael Gravel and former Congresswoman 116 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:23,120 Michael Gravel and former Congresswoman 117 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,830 Michael Gravel and former Congresswoman Cynthia McKini. These people, let's 118 00:02:25,830 --> 00:02:25,840 Cynthia McKini. These people, let's 119 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,670 Cynthia McKini. These people, let's hear, we'll hear what they had to say. 120 00:02:27,670 --> 00:02:27,680 hear, we'll hear what they had to say. 121 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,150 hear, we'll hear what they had to say. So, let's get the facts out and let's 122 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:30,160 So, let's get the facts out and let's 123 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,190 So, let's get the facts out and let's get this message to Joe Rogan. I'm 124 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:33,200 get this message to Joe Rogan. I'm 125 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,830 get this message to Joe Rogan. I'm almost ashamed to tell you that when she 126 00:02:35,830 --> 00:02:35,840 almost ashamed to tell you that when she 127 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,030 almost ashamed to tell you that when she was arrested in 2008, 128 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:39,040 was arrested in 2008, 129 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,110 was arrested in 2008, I went on ABC News here in the United 130 00:02:41,110 --> 00:02:41,120 I went on ABC News here in the United 131 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,350 I went on ABC News here in the United States and I crowed that this is one of 132 00:02:43,350 --> 00:02:43,360 States and I crowed that this is one of 133 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,550 States and I crowed that this is one of the most significant counterterrorism 134 00:02:46,550 --> 00:02:46,560 the most significant counterterrorism 135 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,470 the most significant counterterrorism captures since the 9/11 attacks. Um, in 136 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:50,480 captures since the 9/11 attacks. Um, in 137 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,430 captures since the 9/11 attacks. Um, in retrospect, I realized that I was wrong. 138 00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:53,440 retrospect, I realized that I was wrong. 139 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,070 retrospect, I realized that I was wrong. Uh, but also in retrospect, 140 00:02:56,070 --> 00:02:56,080 Uh, but also in retrospect, 141 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,190 Uh, but also in retrospect, I'm starting to see some of the crimes 142 00:02:59,190 --> 00:02:59,200 I'm starting to see some of the crimes 143 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,047 I'm starting to see some of the crimes that were committed against Afia Sadiki. 144 00:03:04,047 --> 00:03:04,057 that were committed against Afia Sadiki. 145 00:03:04,057 --> 00:03:04,949 that were committed against Afia Sadiki. [singing] 146 00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:04,959 [singing] 147 00:03:04,959 --> 00:03:06,869 [singing] >> These are the numbers of a treasured 148 00:03:06,869 --> 00:03:06,879 >> These are the numbers of a treasured 149 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:07,670 >> These are the numbers of a treasured soul. 150 00:03:07,670 --> 00:03:07,680 soul. 151 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,550 soul. >> Paradise is under the feet of a woman, a 152 00:03:10,550 --> 00:03:10,560 >> Paradise is under the feet of a woman, a 153 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,910 >> Paradise is under the feet of a woman, a mother. And that's not all. She has been 154 00:03:13,910 --> 00:03:13,920 mother. And that's not all. She has been 155 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:16,309 mother. And that's not all. She has been given rights and protection in every 156 00:03:16,309 --> 00:03:16,319 given rights and protection in every 157 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:19,270 given rights and protection in every sphere of life. She has all the basic 158 00:03:19,270 --> 00:03:19,280 sphere of life. She has all the basic 159 00:03:19,280 --> 00:04:10,229 sphere of life. She has all the basic human rights. 160 00:04:10,229 --> 00:04:10,239 161 00:04:10,239 --> 00:04:12,630 650. [music] 162 00:04:12,630 --> 00:04:12,640 650. [music] 163 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,710 650. [music] A sister or mother with no child to 164 00:04:14,710 --> 00:04:14,720 A sister or mother with no child to 165 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:24,870 A sister or mother with no child to console. 166 00:04:24,870 --> 00:04:24,880 167 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,030 This is the 168 00:04:29,030 --> 00:04:29,040 169 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,550 >> greetings in peace. Welcome to the Dean 170 00:04:30,550 --> 00:04:30,560 >> greetings in peace. Welcome to the Dean 171 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,909 >> greetings in peace. Welcome to the Dean Show. My next guest, Clyde Stanford is a 172 00:04:33,909 --> 00:04:33,919 Show. My next guest, Clyde Stanford is a 173 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:36,550 Show. My next guest, Clyde Stanford is a dual UK US national, the founder and 174 00:04:36,550 --> 00:04:36,560 dual UK US national, the founder and 175 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,070 dual UK US national, the founder and director of the Justice League in 2023. 176 00:04:40,070 --> 00:04:40,080 director of the Justice League in 2023. 177 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,110 director of the Justice League in 2023. He took on the case of Afia Sadiki Pro 178 00:04:43,110 --> 00:04:43,120 He took on the case of Afia Sadiki Pro 179 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,629 He took on the case of Afia Sadiki Pro Bono 180 00:04:44,629 --> 00:04:44,639 Bono 181 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:47,749 Bono who she was abducted with her children 182 00:04:47,749 --> 00:04:47,759 who she was abducted with her children 183 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:52,070 who she was abducted with her children and he recently served a 371page 184 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:52,080 and he recently served a 371page 185 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,230 and he recently served a 371page petition in New York setting out the 186 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:54,240 petition in New York setting out the 187 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,550 petition in New York setting out the truth for what happened to her. He's 188 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:56,560 truth for what happened to her. He's 189 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,350 truth for what happened to her. He's also professor of law. He has received 190 00:04:59,350 --> 00:04:59,360 also professor of law. He has received 191 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,510 also professor of law. He has received too many rewards to to list here in 192 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:03,520 too many rewards to to list here in 193 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,710 too many rewards to to list here in recognition of his work, including one 194 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:06,720 recognition of his work, including one 195 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,310 recognition of his work, including one by Elizabeth the Queen Elizabeth II, the 196 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:10,320 by Elizabeth the Queen Elizabeth II, the 197 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,749 by Elizabeth the Queen Elizabeth II, the OB award for services to humanity in 198 00:05:13,749 --> 00:05:13,759 OB award for services to humanity in 199 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:17,990 OB award for services to humanity in 2000 and the Gandhi Peace Award in 2005 200 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:18,000 2000 and the Gandhi Peace Award in 2005 201 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,029 2000 and the Gandhi Peace Award in 2005 and various honorary doctorates from a 202 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:21,039 and various honorary doctorates from a 203 00:05:21,039 --> 00:05:22,950 and various honorary doctorates from a range of universities. 204 00:05:22,950 --> 00:05:22,960 range of universities. 205 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,790 range of universities. He has been a member of the United 206 00:05:24,790 --> 00:05:24,800 He has been a member of the United 207 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,909 He has been a member of the United States Supreme Court and Louisiana State 208 00:05:27,909 --> 00:05:27,919 States Supreme Court and Louisiana State 209 00:05:27,919 --> 00:05:30,629 States Supreme Court and Louisiana State Bar for over 40 years. 210 00:05:30,629 --> 00:05:30,639 Bar for over 40 years. 211 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:32,469 Bar for over 40 years. So, let's go ahead and play this clip. 212 00:05:32,469 --> 00:05:32,479 So, let's go ahead and play this clip. 213 00:05:32,479 --> 00:05:34,710 So, let's go ahead and play this clip. He recently called out Joe Rogan to have 214 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:34,720 He recently called out Joe Rogan to have 215 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,710 He recently called out Joe Rogan to have a conversation with him because it seems 216 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:36,720 a conversation with him because it seems 217 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,230 a conversation with him because it seems like Joe Rogan is had a guest on talking 218 00:05:40,230 --> 00:05:40,240 like Joe Rogan is had a guest on talking 219 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,830 like Joe Rogan is had a guest on talking about his client Afia Sadiki. So, let's 220 00:05:43,830 --> 00:05:43,840 about his client Afia Sadiki. So, let's 221 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:46,150 about his client Afia Sadiki. So, let's go ahead and check out this clip and 222 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:46,160 go ahead and check out this clip and 223 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,870 go ahead and check out this clip and then bring out my next guest. One of 224 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:48,880 then bring out my next guest. One of 225 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,070 then bring out my next guest. One of which involves an al-Qaeda terrorist 226 00:05:52,070 --> 00:05:52,080 which involves an al-Qaeda terrorist 227 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,310 which involves an al-Qaeda terrorist that was captured. She's actually now in 228 00:05:54,310 --> 00:05:54,320 that was captured. She's actually now in 229 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,390 that was captured. She's actually now in Texas in a mental institution for the 230 00:05:56,390 --> 00:05:56,400 Texas in a mental institution for the 231 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,830 Texas in a mental institution for the rest of her life. Her name's Aia Sadiki. 232 00:05:59,830 --> 00:05:59,840 rest of her life. Her name's Aia Sadiki. 233 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:03,270 rest of her life. Her name's Aia Sadiki. She's an MIT trained biologist 234 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:03,280 She's an MIT trained biologist 235 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:05,510 She's an MIT trained biologist related by marriage to Khaled Shake 236 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:05,520 related by marriage to Khaled Shake 237 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,390 related by marriage to Khaled Shake Muhammad. Okay. And she was leading the 238 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:08,400 Muhammad. Okay. And she was leading the 239 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,909 Muhammad. Okay. And she was leading the biological weapons program. This is 240 00:06:09,909 --> 00:06:09,919 biological weapons program. This is 241 00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:11,749 biological weapons program. This is according to the CIA officers. 242 00:06:11,749 --> 00:06:11,759 according to the CIA officers. 243 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:13,430 according to the CIA officers. >> She was trained at MIT. 244 00:06:13,430 --> 00:06:13,440 >> She was trained at MIT. 245 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,270 >> She was trained at MIT. >> She was trained at MIT and then she went 246 00:06:15,270 --> 00:06:15,280 >> She was trained at MIT and then she went 247 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:17,749 >> She was trained at MIT and then she went back to Pakistan. She was the first 248 00:06:17,749 --> 00:06:17,759 back to Pakistan. She was the first 249 00:06:17,759 --> 00:06:21,029 back to Pakistan. She was the first woman on the FBI's most wanted terrorist 250 00:06:21,029 --> 00:06:21,039 woman on the FBI's most wanted terrorist 251 00:06:21,039 --> 00:06:21,430 woman on the FBI's most wanted terrorist list. 252 00:06:21,430 --> 00:06:21,440 list. 253 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:22,629 list. >> How come they have her in a mental 254 00:06:22,629 --> 00:06:22,639 >> How come they have her in a mental 255 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:23,350 >> How come they have her in a mental institute? 256 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:23,360 institute? 257 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,909 institute? >> Cuz they caught her and then this part 258 00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:25,919 >> Cuz they caught her and then this part 259 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:27,510 >> Cuz they caught her and then this part is reported. They caught her and 260 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:27,520 is reported. They caught her and 261 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,070 is reported. They caught her and somehow, again, the air quote, somehow 262 00:06:30,070 --> 00:06:30,080 somehow, again, the air quote, somehow 263 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,189 somehow, again, the air quote, somehow she got a hold of a Marine's rifle and 264 00:06:33,189 --> 00:06:33,199 she got a hold of a Marine's rifle and 265 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:35,510 she got a hold of a Marine's rifle and fire and was firing at the FBI agents 266 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:35,520 fire and was firing at the FBI agents 267 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,350 fire and was firing at the FBI agents interviewing her. 268 00:06:39,350 --> 00:06:39,360 269 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,270 >> Cly, how are you? 270 00:06:41,270 --> 00:06:41,280 >> Cly, how are you? 271 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:43,189 >> Cly, how are you? >> I am doing very well, thank you. How are 272 00:06:43,189 --> 00:06:43,199 >> I am doing very well, thank you. How are 273 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:43,990 >> I am doing very well, thank you. How are you? 274 00:06:43,990 --> 00:06:44,000 you? 275 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,350 you? >> I'm good, thank God. Thank you for 276 00:06:45,350 --> 00:06:45,360 >> I'm good, thank God. Thank you for 277 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,150 >> I'm good, thank God. Thank you for accepting invitation. So, I showed a 278 00:06:48,150 --> 00:06:48,160 accepting invitation. So, I showed a 279 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,469 accepting invitation. So, I showed a clip here and I I saw your your message 280 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:50,479 clip here and I I saw your your message 281 00:06:50,479 --> 00:06:52,309 clip here and I I saw your your message to Joe Rogan. We'll put it up. Dear Joe 282 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:52,319 to Joe Rogan. We'll put it up. Dear Joe 283 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:54,550 to Joe Rogan. We'll put it up. Dear Joe Rogan, I'm afraid you have been fed a 284 00:06:54,550 --> 00:06:54,560 Rogan, I'm afraid you have been fed a 285 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,790 Rogan, I'm afraid you have been fed a pack of nonsense by this lady. She is 286 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:56,800 pack of nonsense by this lady. She is 287 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,749 pack of nonsense by this lady. She is wrong on every single one of her facts. 288 00:06:59,749 --> 00:06:59,759 wrong on every single one of her facts. 289 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:02,309 wrong on every single one of her facts. I have been in Afghanistan five times 290 00:07:02,309 --> 00:07:02,319 I have been in Afghanistan five times 291 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:04,469 I have been in Afghanistan five times and have the evidence. Should you like 292 00:07:04,469 --> 00:07:04,479 and have the evidence. Should you like 293 00:07:04,479 --> 00:07:07,430 and have the evidence. Should you like to discuss it? Then you mentioned at 294 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:07,440 to discuss it? Then you mentioned at 295 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,790 to discuss it? Then you mentioned at Afia movement. 296 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:10,800 Afia movement. 297 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,909 Afia movement. So, uh, you are the attorney for Afia 298 00:07:13,909 --> 00:07:13,919 So, uh, you are the attorney for Afia 299 00:07:13,919 --> 00:07:16,950 So, uh, you are the attorney for Afia Sadiki right now at this moment. 300 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:16,960 Sadiki right now at this moment. 301 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,749 Sadiki right now at this moment. >> I am. I mean, I took her case on because 302 00:07:19,749 --> 00:07:19,759 >> I am. I mean, I took her case on because 303 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:22,870 >> I am. I mean, I took her case on because her really wonderful, um, sister, Dr. 304 00:07:22,870 --> 00:07:22,880 her really wonderful, um, sister, Dr. 305 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,029 her really wonderful, um, sister, Dr. Fausia Sadiki, who's a a Harvard trained 306 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:27,039 Fausia Sadiki, who's a a Harvard trained 307 00:07:27,039 --> 00:07:29,270 Fausia Sadiki, who's a a Harvard trained uh, neurologist 308 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:29,280 uh, neurologist 309 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,189 uh, neurologist had caught me in a weak moment when I'd 310 00:07:31,189 --> 00:07:31,199 had caught me in a weak moment when I'd 311 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:33,189 had caught me in a weak moment when I'd just got some prisoners out of Grantono. 312 00:07:33,189 --> 00:07:33,199 just got some prisoners out of Grantono. 313 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:35,510 just got some prisoners out of Grantono. So, I thought I had some extra time and 314 00:07:35,510 --> 00:07:35,520 So, I thought I had some extra time and 315 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,430 So, I thought I had some extra time and I took it on. And I've been working on 316 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:37,440 I took it on. And I've been working on 317 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,589 I took it on. And I've been working on it for the last three and a half years. 318 00:07:39,589 --> 00:07:39,599 it for the last three and a half years. 319 00:07:39,599 --> 00:07:42,230 it for the last three and a half years. And I think I know more about probably 320 00:07:42,230 --> 00:07:42,240 And I think I know more about probably 321 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,270 And I think I know more about probably Afia's case than anybody. Certainly more 322 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:45,280 Afia's case than anybody. Certainly more 323 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,350 Afia's case than anybody. Certainly more than dear Annie and what she says on 324 00:07:47,350 --> 00:07:47,360 than dear Annie and what she says on 325 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,270 than dear Annie and what she says on that Joe Rogan show. 326 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:49,280 that Joe Rogan show. 327 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,909 that Joe Rogan show. >> Who is this lady? 328 00:07:51,909 --> 00:07:51,919 >> Who is this lady? 329 00:07:51,919 --> 00:07:53,909 >> Who is this lady? >> Are you familiar with her? 330 00:07:53,909 --> 00:07:53,919 >> Are you familiar with her? 331 00:07:53,919 --> 00:07:56,390 >> Are you familiar with her? >> Annie. Yeah, Annie Jacobson has written 332 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:56,400 >> Annie. Yeah, Annie Jacobson has written 333 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,710 >> Annie. Yeah, Annie Jacobson has written a bunch of ridiculous books by and 334 00:07:58,710 --> 00:07:58,720 a bunch of ridiculous books by and 335 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,629 a bunch of ridiculous books by and large. I mean, one of them is about 336 00:08:00,629 --> 00:08:00,639 large. I mean, one of them is about 337 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:04,230 large. I mean, one of them is about aliens visiting uh visiting the world, 338 00:08:04,230 --> 00:08:04,240 aliens visiting uh visiting the world, 339 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,430 aliens visiting uh visiting the world, but she's also she takes all these 340 00:08:07,430 --> 00:08:07,440 but she's also she takes all these 341 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,990 but she's also she takes all these things that um that are shocking and 342 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:10,000 things that um that are shocking and 343 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,189 things that um that are shocking and would make good dramatic albeit totally 344 00:08:13,189 --> 00:08:13,199 would make good dramatic albeit totally 345 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:15,670 would make good dramatic albeit totally false television programs and then 346 00:08:15,670 --> 00:08:15,680 false television programs and then 347 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,029 false television programs and then posits them as scientific fact. And it 348 00:08:19,029 --> 00:08:19,039 posits them as scientific fact. And it 349 00:08:19,039 --> 00:08:20,950 posits them as scientific fact. And it was just fascinating to me that she 350 00:08:20,950 --> 00:08:20,960 was just fascinating to me that she 351 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,950 was just fascinating to me that she didn't when she wrote this book, she 352 00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:22,960 didn't when she wrote this book, she 353 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,950 didn't when she wrote this book, she didn't bother to give me a buzz. I would 354 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:24,960 didn't bother to give me a buzz. I would 355 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,430 didn't bother to give me a buzz. I would have happily told her all about Afia. I 356 00:08:27,430 --> 00:08:27,440 have happily told her all about Afia. I 357 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:28,710 have happily told her all about Afia. I would have told her how to pronounce 358 00:08:28,710 --> 00:08:28,720 would have told her how to pronounce 359 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,629 would have told her how to pronounce Afia's name to begin with. I'd have told 360 00:08:30,629 --> 00:08:30,639 Afia's name to begin with. I'd have told 361 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,509 Afia's name to begin with. I'd have told her that Afia had nothing to do with Hal 362 00:08:33,509 --> 00:08:33,519 her that Afia had nothing to do with Hal 363 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:37,190 her that Afia had nothing to do with Hal Shake Muhammad and that indeed she she 364 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:37,200 Shake Muhammad and that indeed she she 365 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,430 Shake Muhammad and that indeed she she wasn't being interrogated by the FBI 366 00:08:39,430 --> 00:08:39,440 wasn't being interrogated by the FBI 367 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,670 wasn't being interrogated by the FBI when she grabbed a rifle and shot one of 368 00:08:41,670 --> 00:08:41,680 when she grabbed a rifle and shot one of 369 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:44,470 when she grabbed a rifle and shot one of them. She was actually just shot by a 370 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:44,480 them. She was actually just shot by a 371 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,910 them. She was actually just shot by a soldier in a Roman Gazny where I've been 372 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:47,920 soldier in a Roman Gazny where I've been 373 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,230 soldier in a Roman Gazny where I've been on like Ammy. So, I would have corrected 374 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:50,240 on like Ammy. So, I would have corrected 375 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,990 on like Ammy. So, I would have corrected her on all the nonsense she said on 376 00:08:51,990 --> 00:08:52,000 her on all the nonsense she said on 377 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,949 her on all the nonsense she said on Rogan, but uh she didn't bother to ask. 378 00:08:54,949 --> 00:08:54,959 Rogan, but uh she didn't bother to ask. 379 00:08:54,959 --> 00:08:57,110 Rogan, but uh she didn't bother to ask. Let's continue on and kind of break this 380 00:08:57,110 --> 00:08:57,120 Let's continue on and kind of break this 381 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,389 Let's continue on and kind of break this down. Uh she goes on to mention some 382 00:09:00,389 --> 00:09:00,399 down. Uh she goes on to mention some 383 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:01,910 down. Uh she goes on to mention some other things. So the first thing is did 384 00:09:01,910 --> 00:09:01,920 other things. So the first thing is did 385 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,230 other things. So the first thing is did she say that he she was married to this 386 00:09:04,230 --> 00:09:04,240 she say that he she was married to this 387 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,230 she say that he she was married to this uh Khaled Muhammad? 388 00:09:06,230 --> 00:09:06,240 uh Khaled Muhammad? 389 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,550 uh Khaled Muhammad? >> Well, she did say that at one point, but 390 00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:08,560 >> Well, she did say that at one point, but 391 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:11,110 >> Well, she did say that at one point, but then she said she was just related to 392 00:09:11,110 --> 00:09:11,120 then she said she was just related to 393 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,870 then she said she was just related to him and it just wasn't true. Can I just 394 00:09:12,870 --> 00:09:12,880 him and it just wasn't true. Can I just 395 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,470 him and it just wasn't true. Can I just tell you a bit of the brief beef 396 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:14,480 tell you a bit of the brief beef 397 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,910 tell you a bit of the brief beef background? that wasn't about. So she 398 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:17,920 background? that wasn't about. So she 399 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,030 background? that wasn't about. So she was a very very brilliant young woman 400 00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:21,040 was a very very brilliant young woman 401 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,870 was a very very brilliant young woman who came to the US and did a degree at 402 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:24,880 who came to the US and did a degree at 403 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,710 who came to the US and did a degree at MIT and then a PhD at Brandeise. Her PhD 404 00:09:28,710 --> 00:09:28,720 MIT and then a PhD at Brandeise. Her PhD 405 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,350 MIT and then a PhD at Brandeise. Her PhD at Brandeise wasn't in neuroscience 406 00:09:31,350 --> 00:09:31,360 at Brandeise wasn't in neuroscience 407 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,550 at Brandeise wasn't in neuroscience where she was meant to be making bomb. 408 00:09:34,550 --> 00:09:34,560 where she was meant to be making bomb. 409 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,430 where she was meant to be making bomb. It was in education. She did a PhD about 410 00:09:37,430 --> 00:09:37,440 It was in education. She did a PhD about 411 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,070 It was in education. She did a PhD about teaching young children how to learn. 412 00:09:40,070 --> 00:09:40,080 teaching young children how to learn. 413 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,550 teaching young children how to learn. Um, and then she went back to Pakistan 414 00:09:42,550 --> 00:09:42,560 Um, and then she went back to Pakistan 415 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:45,350 Um, and then she went back to Pakistan after 911 because, as you probably are 416 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:45,360 after 911 because, as you probably are 417 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,910 after 911 because, as you probably are fully aware, uh, the US was not terribly 418 00:09:47,910 --> 00:09:47,920 fully aware, uh, the US was not terribly 419 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,110 fully aware, uh, the US was not terribly hospitable to many Muslims at the time. 420 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:51,120 hospitable to many Muslims at the time. 421 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,310 hospitable to many Muslims at the time. And in the end, she got abducted. The 422 00:09:54,310 --> 00:09:54,320 And in the end, she got abducted. The 423 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,829 And in the end, she got abducted. The the CIA paid a $55,000 424 00:09:57,829 --> 00:09:57,839 the CIA paid a $55,000 425 00:09:57,839 --> 00:10:01,269 the CIA paid a $55,000 bounty to the Pakistan authorities to 426 00:10:01,269 --> 00:10:01,279 bounty to the Pakistan authorities to 427 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:04,389 bounty to the Pakistan authorities to help them abduct Afia and her three 428 00:10:04,389 --> 00:10:04,399 help them abduct Afia and her three 429 00:10:04,399 --> 00:10:07,269 help them abduct Afia and her three children. Now, I've seen the facts. I'm 430 00:10:07,269 --> 00:10:07,279 children. Now, I've seen the facts. I'm 431 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:09,670 children. Now, I've seen the facts. I'm not going to do what the CIA did with 432 00:10:09,670 --> 00:10:09,680 not going to do what the CIA did with 433 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:11,590 not going to do what the CIA did with Annie. I'm not going to break the 434 00:10:11,590 --> 00:10:11,600 Annie. I'm not going to break the 435 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,829 Annie. I'm not going to break the security terance that I sworn to uphold. 436 00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:13,839 security terance that I sworn to uphold. 437 00:10:13,839 --> 00:10:16,550 security terance that I sworn to uphold. I I see all this secret stuff. But I can 438 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:16,560 I I see all this secret stuff. But I can 439 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:18,630 I I see all this secret stuff. But I can tell you everything they thought they 440 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:18,640 tell you everything they thought they 441 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,949 tell you everything they thought they knew about Arthia was wrong. But the 442 00:10:20,949 --> 00:10:20,959 knew about Arthia was wrong. But the 443 00:10:20,959 --> 00:10:24,150 knew about Arthia was wrong. But the shocking thing is the CIA abducted a 444 00:10:24,150 --> 00:10:24,160 shocking thing is the CIA abducted a 445 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,670 shocking thing is the CIA abducted a woman with her three children. Two of 446 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:27,680 woman with her three children. Two of 447 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:30,470 woman with her three children. Two of the children, aged six and four, they 448 00:10:30,470 --> 00:10:30,480 the children, aged six and four, they 449 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,350 the children, aged six and four, they took to Afghanistan where they forced 450 00:10:33,350 --> 00:10:33,360 took to Afghanistan where they forced 451 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,470 took to Afghanistan where they forced the six-year-old boy into prisons for 5 452 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:36,480 the six-year-old boy into prisons for 5 453 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,269 the six-year-old boy into prisons for 5 years. They put the four-year-old girl, 454 00:10:39,269 --> 00:10:39,279 years. They put the four-year-old girl, 455 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:42,630 years. They put the four-year-old girl, Nariam, in a white Christian American 456 00:10:42,630 --> 00:10:42,640 Nariam, in a white Christian American 457 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,069 Nariam, in a white Christian American CIA family for seven years and make 458 00:10:46,069 --> 00:10:46,079 CIA family for seven years and make 459 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:49,509 CIA family for seven years and make apparently the six-month-old Soulean. 460 00:10:49,509 --> 00:10:49,519 apparently the six-month-old Soulean. 461 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:51,670 apparently the six-month-old Soulean. And this is a shocking story, but it's 462 00:10:51,670 --> 00:10:51,680 And this is a shocking story, but it's 463 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:54,470 And this is a shocking story, but it's not the s story that Annie tells you. 464 00:10:54,470 --> 00:10:54,480 not the s story that Annie tells you. 465 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,590 not the s story that Annie tells you. The story is really what was the CIA 466 00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:57,600 The story is really what was the CIA 467 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,430 The story is really what was the CIA doing? They're sworn to protect 468 00:10:59,430 --> 00:10:59,440 doing? They're sworn to protect 469 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,310 doing? They're sworn to protect Americans. What were they doing? Falsely 470 00:11:02,310 --> 00:11:02,320 Americans. What were they doing? Falsely 471 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,110 Americans. What were they doing? Falsely abducting this woman and taking two 472 00:11:05,110 --> 00:11:05,120 abducting this woman and taking two 473 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,310 abducting this woman and taking two American children to a buzza and and the 474 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:08,320 American children to a buzza and and the 475 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,910 American children to a buzza and and the child was just heartless. 476 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:11,920 child was just heartless. 477 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,509 child was just heartless. Before we get into more of the Joe 478 00:11:13,509 --> 00:11:13,519 Before we get into more of the Joe 479 00:11:13,519 --> 00:11:16,150 Before we get into more of the Joe Rogan, and I hope Joe Rogan will invite 480 00:11:16,150 --> 00:11:16,160 Rogan, and I hope Joe Rogan will invite 481 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,389 Rogan, and I hope Joe Rogan will invite someone like you, who's her attorney, 482 00:11:18,389 --> 00:11:18,399 someone like you, who's her attorney, 483 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:21,509 someone like you, who's her attorney, after you go ahead and obviously prove 484 00:11:21,509 --> 00:11:21,519 after you go ahead and obviously prove 485 00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:23,750 after you go ahead and obviously prove that the guest that he had on is 486 00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:23,760 that the guest that he had on is 487 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:24,870 that the guest that he had on is somebody, would you say he's just 488 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:24,880 somebody, would you say he's just 489 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,710 somebody, would you say he's just blatantly lying? 490 00:11:26,710 --> 00:11:26,720 blatantly lying? 491 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,430 blatantly lying? >> No, she's just a fool. She She's got all 492 00:11:29,430 --> 00:11:29,440 >> No, she's just a fool. She She's got all 493 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,150 >> No, she's just a fool. She She's got all her facts wrong and she published them. 494 00:11:32,150 --> 00:11:32,160 her facts wrong and she published them. 495 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:32,870 her facts wrong and she published them. I'm not saying 496 00:11:32,870 --> 00:11:32,880 I'm not saying 497 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,470 I'm not saying >> that's very irresponsible. That's very 498 00:11:34,470 --> 00:11:34,480 >> that's very irresponsible. That's very 499 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,150 >> that's very irresponsible. That's very irresponsible. Be honest. 500 00:11:36,150 --> 00:11:36,160 irresponsible. Be honest. 501 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,310 irresponsible. Be honest. >> Of course. Of course it is. And what and 502 00:11:38,310 --> 00:11:38,320 >> Of course. Of course it is. And what and 503 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,790 >> Of course. Of course it is. And what and the reason, you know, my mom taught me 504 00:11:40,790 --> 00:11:40,800 the reason, you know, my mom taught me 505 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,509 the reason, you know, my mom taught me that my job as a privileged white male 506 00:11:43,509 --> 00:11:43,519 that my job as a privileged white male 507 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:45,430 that my job as a privileged white male was to protect people around the world 508 00:11:45,430 --> 00:11:45,440 was to protect people around the world 509 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,430 was to protect people around the world who are being trampled on by people with 510 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:47,440 who are being trampled on by people with 511 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,670 who are being trampled on by people with power. And it's our job is not to go 512 00:11:51,670 --> 00:11:51,680 power. And it's our job is not to go 513 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:54,069 power. And it's our job is not to go around spreading lies about some poor 514 00:11:54,069 --> 00:11:54,079 around spreading lies about some poor 515 00:11:54,079 --> 00:11:57,350 around spreading lies about some poor woman who's been tortured. She's been 516 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:57,360 woman who's been tortured. She's been 517 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,350 woman who's been tortured. She's been she's been in FMC Carwell, a federal uh 518 00:12:01,350 --> 00:12:01,360 she's been in FMC Carwell, a federal uh 519 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,870 she's been in FMC Carwell, a federal uh institution for the last 18 years. And 520 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:04,880 institution for the last 18 years. And 521 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,269 institution for the last 18 years. And you know, I just been looking into her 522 00:12:07,269 --> 00:12:07,279 you know, I just been looking into her 523 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:10,389 you know, I just been looking into her current treatment in that prison. I 524 00:12:10,389 --> 00:12:10,399 current treatment in that prison. I 525 00:12:10,399 --> 00:12:12,150 current treatment in that prison. I don't know why we have male guards in 526 00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:12,160 don't know why we have male guards in 527 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,710 don't know why we have male guards in women's prisons, frankly, but there have 528 00:12:14,710 --> 00:12:14,720 women's prisons, frankly, but there have 529 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,949 women's prisons, frankly, but there have been now 14 guards 530 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:18,959 been now 14 guards 531 00:12:18,959 --> 00:12:22,710 been now 14 guards um convicted of rape in that prisons, 532 00:12:22,710 --> 00:12:22,720 um convicted of rape in that prisons, 533 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,030 um convicted of rape in that prisons, including a Christian minister. 534 00:12:25,030 --> 00:12:25,040 including a Christian minister. 535 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:25,670 including a Christian minister. >> Wow. 536 00:12:25,670 --> 00:12:25,680 >> Wow. 537 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:29,110 >> Wow. >> They they finally I had p I' I'd got 538 00:12:29,110 --> 00:12:29,120 >> They they finally I had p I' I'd got 539 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,110 >> They they finally I had p I' I'd got Omar Suleman. Do you know who I mean by 540 00:12:31,110 --> 00:12:31,120 Omar Suleman. Do you know who I mean by 541 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,710 Omar Suleman. Do you know who I mean by an Omar Sulean? 542 00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:32,720 an Omar Sulean? 543 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,470 an Omar Sulean? >> Yeah. It's a good friend of mine. 544 00:12:34,470 --> 00:12:34,480 >> Yeah. It's a good friend of mine. 545 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,550 >> Yeah. It's a good friend of mine. a lovely, lovely guy. One of the few 546 00:12:36,550 --> 00:12:36,560 a lovely, lovely guy. One of the few 547 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:38,310 a lovely, lovely guy. One of the few people in the world who I look up to 548 00:12:38,310 --> 00:12:38,320 people in the world who I look up to 549 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,389 people in the world who I look up to both metaphorically and really because 550 00:12:40,389 --> 00:12:40,399 both metaphorically and really because 551 00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:42,629 both metaphorically and really because as you know he's a big tall guy, really 552 00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:42,639 as you know he's a big tall guy, really 553 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:44,790 as you know he's a big tall guy, really delightful fellow. And he offered to go 554 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:44,800 delightful fellow. And he offered to go 555 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,150 delightful fellow. And he offered to go into Kazwell to minister to Afia because 556 00:12:48,150 --> 00:12:48,160 into Kazwell to minister to Afia because 557 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,790 into Kazwell to minister to Afia because they'd never let her have an imam. Um 558 00:12:50,790 --> 00:12:50,800 they'd never let her have an imam. Um 559 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,710 they'd never let her have an imam. Um they wouldn't let him in. We're about to 560 00:12:52,710 --> 00:12:52,720 they wouldn't let him in. We're about to 561 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,110 they wouldn't let him in. We're about to sue them again on that. But instead, 562 00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:55,120 sue them again on that. But instead, 563 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,949 sue them again on that. But instead, they got this other imam. I won't 564 00:12:56,949 --> 00:12:56,959 they got this other imam. I won't 565 00:12:56,959 --> 00:12:59,670 they got this other imam. I won't mention his name because he's now been 566 00:12:59,670 --> 00:12:59,680 mention his name because he's now been 567 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:02,790 mention his name because he's now been accused of being some of the women, 11 568 00:13:02,790 --> 00:13:02,800 accused of being some of the women, 11 569 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,750 accused of being some of the women, 11 of the women in that prison. And she's 570 00:13:05,750 --> 00:13:05,760 of the women in that prison. And she's 571 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,550 of the women in that prison. And she's in this awful place after being tortured 572 00:13:08,550 --> 00:13:08,560 in this awful place after being tortured 573 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:11,269 in this awful place after being tortured by the CIA for 5 years in Bagram Air 574 00:13:11,269 --> 00:13:11,279 by the CIA for 5 years in Bagram Air 575 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:14,150 by the CIA for 5 years in Bagram Air Force Base. And as you can imagine, she 576 00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:14,160 Force Base. And as you can imagine, she 577 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,470 Force Base. And as you can imagine, she lost her children. She lost everything. 578 00:13:16,470 --> 00:13:16,480 lost her children. She lost everything. 579 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,990 lost her children. She lost everything. And I can tell you, she's 100% innocent. 580 00:13:19,990 --> 00:13:20,000 And I can tell you, she's 100% innocent. 581 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,470 And I can tell you, she's 100% innocent. And she's rotting a radar. It's just a 582 00:13:22,470 --> 00:13:22,480 And she's rotting a radar. It's just a 583 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,910 And she's rotting a radar. It's just a scandal um on us as Americans. 584 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:25,920 scandal um on us as Americans. 585 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,430 scandal um on us as Americans. When this was first brought to my 586 00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:27,440 When this was first brought to my 587 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,590 When this was first brought to my attention years ago, I interviewed uh 588 00:13:29,590 --> 00:13:29,600 attention years ago, I interviewed uh 589 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,069 attention years ago, I interviewed uh Mari Salakan, who's dedicated also his 590 00:13:32,069 --> 00:13:32,079 Mari Salakan, who's dedicated also his 591 00:13:32,079 --> 00:13:35,990 Mari Salakan, who's dedicated also his life to um to this case. He's doing a 592 00:13:35,990 --> 00:13:36,000 life to um to this case. He's doing a 593 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,750 life to um to this case. He's doing a lot some great work exposing also a lot 594 00:13:39,750 --> 00:13:39,760 lot some great work exposing also a lot 595 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,670 lot some great work exposing also a lot of the um the things that you're talking 596 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:41,680 of the um the things that you're talking 597 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:44,389 of the um the things that you're talking about, human rights activists. One of 598 00:13:44,389 --> 00:13:44,399 about, human rights activists. One of 599 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:46,710 about, human rights activists. One of the things that when I interviewed him 600 00:13:46,710 --> 00:13:46,720 the things that when I interviewed him 601 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,829 the things that when I interviewed him that really stood out were a few things. 602 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:49,839 that really stood out were a few things. 603 00:13:49,839 --> 00:13:52,949 that really stood out were a few things. his interaction with some high prominent 604 00:13:52,949 --> 00:13:52,959 his interaction with some high prominent 605 00:13:52,959 --> 00:13:56,230 his interaction with some high prominent prominent uh politicians and US figures 606 00:13:56,230 --> 00:13:56,240 prominent uh politicians and US figures 607 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,030 prominent uh politicians and US figures like former US attorney general Ramsey 608 00:13:59,030 --> 00:13:59,040 like former US attorney general Ramsey 609 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,470 like former US attorney general Ramsey Clark uh who was also on top of this and 610 00:14:02,470 --> 00:14:02,480 Clark uh who was also on top of this and 611 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,670 Clark uh who was also on top of this and he said that she was innocent and had 612 00:14:05,670 --> 00:14:05,680 he said that she was innocent and had 613 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:07,509 he said that she was innocent and had been a victim victimized by the 614 00:14:07,509 --> 00:14:07,519 been a victim victimized by the 615 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:09,670 been a victim victimized by the international politics for power and I 616 00:14:09,670 --> 00:14:09,680 international politics for power and I 617 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:11,509 international politics for power and I quote he said I haven't witnessed such 618 00:14:11,509 --> 00:14:11,519 quote he said I haven't witnessed such 619 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:14,870 quote he said I haven't witnessed such bare injustice in my entire career uh 620 00:14:14,870 --> 00:14:14,880 bare injustice in my entire career uh 621 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,310 bare injustice in my entire career uh this is a quote from the daily times 622 00:14:16,310 --> 00:14:16,320 this is a quote from the daily times 623 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,710 this is a quote from the daily times quoted by this is former US attorney 624 00:14:18,710 --> 00:14:18,720 quoted by this is former US attorney 625 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,110 quoted by this is former US attorney general Ramsey Clark. You also have um 626 00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:23,120 general Ramsey Clark. You also have um 627 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,750 general Ramsey Clark. You also have um uh someone like him. You would think why 628 00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:25,760 uh someone like him. You would think why 629 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,509 uh someone like him. You would think why would he put his reputation? Why would 630 00:14:27,509 --> 00:14:27,519 would he put his reputation? Why would 631 00:14:27,519 --> 00:14:30,949 would he put his reputation? Why would he put himself in such a negative 632 00:14:30,949 --> 00:14:30,959 he put himself in such a negative 633 00:14:30,959 --> 00:14:33,189 he put himself in such a negative spotlight to go ahead and to defend 634 00:14:33,189 --> 00:14:33,199 spotlight to go ahead and to defend 635 00:14:33,199 --> 00:14:34,550 spotlight to go ahead and to defend someone if they weren't innocent? Same 636 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:34,560 someone if they weren't innocent? Same 637 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,150 someone if they weren't innocent? Same thing like someone like your you to 638 00:14:36,150 --> 00:14:36,160 thing like someone like your you to 639 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,470 thing like someone like your you to invest all this time pro bono. That 640 00:14:38,470 --> 00:14:38,480 invest all this time pro bono. That 641 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,710 invest all this time pro bono. That means you're not getting paid. Uh you 642 00:14:40,710 --> 00:14:40,720 means you're not getting paid. Uh you 643 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,110 means you're not getting paid. Uh you also had a former US presidential 644 00:14:43,110 --> 00:14:43,120 also had a former US presidential 645 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,310 also had a former US presidential candidate Mark Gra. 646 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:46,320 candidate Mark Gra. 647 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,269 candidate Mark Gra. I think he was a two-time US senator. He 648 00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:49,279 I think he was a two-time US senator. He 649 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:52,230 I think he was a two-time US senator. He was also speaking out in defense 650 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:52,240 was also speaking out in defense 651 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,470 was also speaking out in defense of of her. Let's have a look at this 652 00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:54,480 of of her. Let's have a look at this 653 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,990 of of her. Let's have a look at this clip. I'm here in Pakistan to plead 654 00:14:57,990 --> 00:14:58,000 clip. I'm here in Pakistan to plead 655 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,389 clip. I'm here in Pakistan to plead cause for Dr. Afia Sadiki who's in jail 656 00:15:02,389 --> 00:15:02,399 cause for Dr. Afia Sadiki who's in jail 657 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:05,509 cause for Dr. Afia Sadiki who's in jail in the United States unjustly and that 658 00:15:05,509 --> 00:15:05,519 in the United States unjustly and that 659 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:08,230 in the United States unjustly and that we need to pressure the Pakistani 660 00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:08,240 we need to pressure the Pakistani 661 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,110 we need to pressure the Pakistani government to ask for her repatriation 662 00:15:11,110 --> 00:15:11,120 government to ask for her repatriation 663 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,389 government to ask for her repatriation to Pakistan. It's a great injustice. You 664 00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:14,399 to Pakistan. It's a great injustice. You 665 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:15,990 to Pakistan. It's a great injustice. You know there's injustice all over the 666 00:15:15,990 --> 00:15:16,000 know there's injustice all over the 667 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,269 know there's injustice all over the world. But when we become acquainted 668 00:15:19,269 --> 00:15:19,279 world. But when we become acquainted 669 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:22,949 world. But when we become acquainted with one single person who has suffered 670 00:15:22,949 --> 00:15:22,959 with one single person who has suffered 671 00:15:22,959 --> 00:15:27,030 with one single person who has suffered tremendous injustice, it it morality 672 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:27,040 tremendous injustice, it it morality 673 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,629 tremendous injustice, it it morality begs us to stand up and use our voice to 674 00:15:30,629 --> 00:15:30,639 begs us to stand up and use our voice to 675 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:34,230 begs us to stand up and use our voice to ask for justice with respect to doctors 676 00:15:34,230 --> 00:15:34,240 ask for justice with respect to doctors 677 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:39,509 ask for justice with respect to doctors aflo. 678 00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:39,519 679 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:42,470 >> Oh, I am. Ramsey Clark was an incredibly 680 00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:42,480 >> Oh, I am. Ramsey Clark was an incredibly 681 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,790 >> Oh, I am. Ramsey Clark was an incredibly uh decent and honorable person and you 682 00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:44,800 uh decent and honorable person and you 683 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,790 uh decent and honorable person and you know they took that position some time 684 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:46,800 know they took that position some time 685 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,230 know they took that position some time ago but I got roped into the case in 686 00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:50,240 ago but I got roped into the case in 687 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,990 ago but I got roped into the case in 2023 688 00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:52,000 2023 689 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,389 2023 and and I went to Afghanistan several 690 00:15:54,389 --> 00:15:54,399 and and I went to Afghanistan several 691 00:15:54,399 --> 00:15:56,470 and and I went to Afghanistan several times because you know that's where it 692 00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:56,480 times because you know that's where it 693 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,790 times because you know that's where it all happened. I'd been to Bagram Air 694 00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:58,800 all happened. I'd been to Bagram Air 695 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,110 all happened. I'd been to Bagram Air Force Base uh with some of the other 696 00:16:01,110 --> 00:16:01,120 Force Base uh with some of the other 697 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,590 Force Base uh with some of the other prisoners who were there with Afia when 698 00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:03,600 prisoners who were there with Afia when 699 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,790 prisoners who were there with Afia when she was being tortured where the CIA was 700 00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:08,800 she was being tortured where the CIA was 701 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,949 she was being tortured where the CIA was children in front of her who they says 702 00:16:10,949 --> 00:16:10,959 children in front of her who they says 703 00:16:10,959 --> 00:16:12,389 children in front of her who they says were her children. It wasn't her 704 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:12,399 were her children. It wasn't her 705 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:14,629 were her children. It wasn't her children. But they they were abusing 706 00:16:14,629 --> 00:16:14,639 children. But they they were abusing 707 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:16,069 children. But they they were abusing this woman in ways that are just 708 00:16:16,069 --> 00:16:16,079 this woman in ways that are just 709 00:16:16,079 --> 00:16:18,230 this woman in ways that are just unspeakable. And I've got a whole series 710 00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:18,240 unspeakable. And I've got a whole series 711 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,069 unspeakable. And I've got a whole series of witnesses from there. And then I went 712 00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:20,079 of witnesses from there. And then I went 713 00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:22,550 of witnesses from there. And then I went to Gazny a few times which is where you 714 00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:22,560 to Gazny a few times which is where you 715 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,670 to Gazny a few times which is where you know that that woman Annie Jacobson says 716 00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:25,680 know that that woman Annie Jacobson says 717 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,949 know that that woman Annie Jacobson says she was being interrogated by FBI agents 718 00:16:28,949 --> 00:16:28,959 she was being interrogated by FBI agents 719 00:16:28,959 --> 00:16:30,949 she was being interrogated by FBI agents and and she she was trying to shoot 720 00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:30,959 and and she she was trying to shoot 721 00:16:30,959 --> 00:16:33,749 and and she she was trying to shoot them. It's total nonsense that we have a 722 00:16:33,749 --> 00:16:33,759 them. It's total nonsense that we have a 723 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:37,269 them. It's total nonsense that we have a video from that very room that shows she 724 00:16:37,269 --> 00:16:37,279 video from that very room that shows she 725 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:40,389 video from that very room that shows she never fired a gun. They they shot her. 726 00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:40,399 never fired a gun. They they shot her. 727 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:41,590 never fired a gun. They they shot her. They didn't know she was in the room. 728 00:16:41,590 --> 00:16:41,600 They didn't know she was in the room. 729 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,269 They didn't know she was in the room. She wasn't being interrogated. She was 730 00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:43,279 She wasn't being interrogated. She was 731 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:45,670 She wasn't being interrogated. She was behind a curtain. These American 732 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:45,680 behind a curtain. These American 733 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,389 behind a curtain. These American soldiers come in there and they they 734 00:16:48,389 --> 00:16:48,399 soldiers come in there and they they 735 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:50,870 soldiers come in there and they they they come into the room not knowing that 736 00:16:50,870 --> 00:16:50,880 they come into the room not knowing that 737 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,110 they come into the room not knowing that Afia is behind the curtain. They see 738 00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:53,120 Afia is behind the curtain. They see 739 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,829 Afia is behind the curtain. They see she's there. They say she's on the loop 740 00:16:55,829 --> 00:16:55,839 she's there. They say she's on the loop 741 00:16:55,839 --> 00:16:58,389 she's there. They say she's on the loop and shot him in the stomach. And that's 742 00:16:58,389 --> 00:16:58,399 and shot him in the stomach. And that's 743 00:16:58,399 --> 00:17:01,350 and shot him in the stomach. And that's all. She didn't shoot anyone. Uh and she 744 00:17:01,350 --> 00:17:01,360 all. She didn't shoot anyone. Uh and she 745 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,270 all. She didn't shoot anyone. Uh and she was then taken to the really 9/10en of a 746 00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:05,280 was then taken to the really 9/10en of a 747 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,350 was then taken to the really 9/10en of a mile from from ground zero where the 748 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:07,360 mile from from ground zero where the 749 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:09,829 mile from from ground zero where the southern district of New York is 10,000 750 00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:09,839 southern district of New York is 10,000 751 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:12,230 southern district of New York is 10,000 miles away from where all this happened. 752 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:12,240 miles away from where all this happened. 753 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,429 miles away from where all this happened. and given 86 years in prison. She's the 754 00:17:15,429 --> 00:17:15,439 and given 86 years in prison. She's the 755 00:17:15,439 --> 00:17:18,069 and given 86 years in prison. She's the only person who got shot. And Annie 756 00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:18,079 only person who got shot. And Annie 757 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:19,909 only person who got shot. And Annie Jacobson says she was charged with 758 00:17:19,909 --> 00:17:19,919 Jacobson says she was charged with 759 00:17:19,919 --> 00:17:22,150 Jacobson says she was charged with terrorism. She wasn't. She was never 760 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:22,160 terrorism. She wasn't. She was never 761 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,990 terrorism. She wasn't. She was never charged with terrorism. She was never 762 00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:24,000 charged with terrorism. She was never 763 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,069 charged with terrorism. She was never proven to have done any of this stuff. 764 00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:26,079 proven to have done any of this stuff. 765 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,150 proven to have done any of this stuff. She certainly never had any of the 766 00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:28,160 She certainly never had any of the 767 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,870 She certainly never had any of the documents that she had done about 768 00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:30,880 documents that she had done about 769 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,110 documents that she had done about creating weapons of mass destruction. It 770 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:33,120 creating weapons of mass destruction. It 771 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:35,750 creating weapons of mass destruction. It was just the total fantasies. 772 00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:35,760 was just the total fantasies. 773 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,270 was just the total fantasies. >> Yeah, that stood out also in my 774 00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:37,280 >> Yeah, that stood out also in my 775 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,590 >> Yeah, that stood out also in my interview with Marie. He told me that if 776 00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:39,600 interview with Marie. He told me that if 777 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,230 interview with Marie. He told me that if there was any anything that they had 778 00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:42,240 there was any anything that they had 779 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,150 there was any anything that they had credible that they would have charged 780 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:44,160 credible that they would have charged 781 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,549 credible that they would have charged her with terrorism offense, but she was 782 00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:46,559 her with terrorism offense, but she was 783 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:48,150 her with terrorism offense, but she was never charged with any This is very 784 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:48,160 never charged with any This is very 785 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,590 never charged with any This is very important for the audience. She was 786 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:49,600 important for the audience. She was 787 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,270 important for the audience. She was never charged with any terrorism 788 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:51,280 never charged with any terrorism 789 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,789 never charged with any terrorism offense. Is that correct? 790 00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:52,799 offense. Is that correct? 791 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:55,510 offense. Is that correct? >> That's exactly correct. And indeed the 792 00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:55,520 >> That's exactly correct. And indeed the 793 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,590 >> That's exactly correct. And indeed the lawyers she had and I don't entirely 794 00:17:57,590 --> 00:17:57,600 lawyers she had and I don't entirely 795 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,669 lawyers she had and I don't entirely blame them because they were American 796 00:17:59,669 --> 00:17:59,679 blame them because they were American 797 00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:00,950 blame them because they were American lawyers who had never been to 798 00:18:00,950 --> 00:18:00,960 lawyers who had never been to 799 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,950 lawyers who had never been to Afghanistan to investigate the case. 800 00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:02,960 Afghanistan to investigate the case. 801 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,270 Afghanistan to investigate the case. They couldn't do a lot of investigation 802 00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:05,280 They couldn't do a lot of investigation 803 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,950 They couldn't do a lot of investigation at the time because there's a war going 804 00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:06,960 at the time because there's a war going 805 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,510 at the time because there's a war going on. But they didn't know that actually 806 00:18:11,510 --> 00:18:11,520 on. But they didn't know that actually 807 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,230 on. But they didn't know that actually the reason she was in Gazny is that the 808 00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:14,240 the reason she was in Gazny is that the 809 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,390 the reason she was in Gazny is that the Pakistan ISI their intelligence had a 810 00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:18,400 Pakistan ISI their intelligence had a 811 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,789 Pakistan ISI their intelligence had a plot to try to well yeah 812 00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:20,799 plot to try to well yeah 813 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:22,789 plot to try to well yeah >> because she was such an arousement 814 00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:22,799 >> because she was such an arousement 815 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:26,070 >> because she was such an arousement because they had sold her to the CIA 816 00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:26,080 because they had sold her to the CIA 817 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,710 because they had sold her to the CIA under totally false pretenses. Her 818 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:28,720 under totally false pretenses. Her 819 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,630 under totally false pretenses. Her children had been abused. She is Yin 820 00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:30,640 children had been abused. She is Yin 821 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,350 children had been abused. She is Yin Torch. Perves Masharif was then the 822 00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:33,360 Torch. Perves Masharif was then the 823 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:37,430 Torch. Perves Masharif was then the president of um of of Pakistan and he 824 00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:37,440 president of um of of Pakistan and he 825 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,430 president of um of of Pakistan and he would have lost his job if it had come 826 00:18:39,430 --> 00:18:39,440 would have lost his job if it had come 827 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,830 would have lost his job if it had come out that his military had done this. So 828 00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:41,840 out that his military had done this. So 829 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,669 out that his military had done this. So they tried to kill us here. That's what 830 00:18:43,669 --> 00:18:43,679 they tried to kill us here. That's what 831 00:18:43,679 --> 00:18:45,669 they tried to kill us here. That's what happened in Gaznner. They were so 832 00:18:45,669 --> 00:18:45,679 happened in Gaznner. They were so 833 00:18:45,679 --> 00:18:48,630 happened in Gaznner. They were so incompetent they failed to do it. But 834 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:48,640 incompetent they failed to do it. But 835 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,110 incompetent they failed to do it. But she is a woman who has suffered more 836 00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:51,120 she is a woman who has suffered more 837 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:54,390 she is a woman who has suffered more than I've represented 87 prisoners and 838 00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:54,400 than I've represented 87 prisoners and 839 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,630 than I've represented 87 prisoners and you've won them over. I honestly thought 840 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:56,640 you've won them over. I honestly thought 841 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,909 you've won them over. I honestly thought the CIA could not horrify me anymore. 842 00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:59,919 the CIA could not horrify me anymore. 843 00:18:59,919 --> 00:19:02,630 the CIA could not horrify me anymore. And I was wrong because our fear is the 844 00:19:02,630 --> 00:19:02,640 And I was wrong because our fear is the 845 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,350 And I was wrong because our fear is the greatest victim of injustice ever 846 00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:05,360 greatest victim of injustice ever 847 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:06,470 greatest victim of injustice ever across. 848 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:06,480 across. 849 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,110 across. >> Joe Rogan has a a moral responsibility. 850 00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:09,120 >> Joe Rogan has a a moral responsibility. 851 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:11,750 >> Joe Rogan has a a moral responsibility. He has a big duty on his hand after 852 00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:11,760 He has a big duty on his hand after 853 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,190 He has a big duty on his hand after listening to this. And let's get this 854 00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:13,200 listening to this. And let's get this 855 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,750 listening to this. And let's get this message to Joe Rogan to have her Assia's 856 00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:15,760 message to Joe Rogan to have her Assia's 857 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,230 message to Joe Rogan to have her Assia's attorney on the program to go ahead and 858 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:18,240 attorney on the program to go ahead and 859 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,070 attorney on the program to go ahead and set the record straight like we're doing 860 00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:20,080 set the record straight like we're doing 861 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,390 set the record straight like we're doing here. Let's go into another clip before 862 00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:22,400 here. Let's go into another clip before 863 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,430 here. Let's go into another clip before we get more of Joe Rogan and the um the 864 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:25,440 we get more of Joe Rogan and the um the 865 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,990 we get more of Joe Rogan and the um the u the guest that he had on who's spewing 866 00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:28,000 u the guest that he had on who's spewing 867 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,549 u the guest that he had on who's spewing this nonsense. Let's look at a 868 00:19:30,549 --> 00:19:30,559 this nonsense. Let's look at a 869 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:33,590 this nonsense. Let's look at a journalist from the UK. I believe it is 870 00:19:33,590 --> 00:19:33,600 journalist from the UK. I believe it is 871 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,909 journalist from the UK. I believe it is who was actually at one of her trials 872 00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:35,919 who was actually at one of her trials 873 00:19:35,919 --> 00:19:39,029 who was actually at one of her trials >> of the trial. The only evidence against 874 00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:39,039 >> of the trial. The only evidence against 875 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:41,110 >> of the trial. The only evidence against her, there was no forensic. So the only 876 00:19:41,110 --> 00:19:41,120 her, there was no forensic. So the only 877 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:43,110 her, there was no forensic. So the only evidence against her came from the 878 00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:43,120 evidence against her came from the 879 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:45,590 evidence against her came from the soldiers who were present. And according 880 00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:45,600 soldiers who were present. And according 881 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,230 soldiers who were present. And according to not one but several lawyers I've 882 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:48,240 to not one but several lawyers I've 883 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,630 to not one but several lawyers I've spoken to, those soldiers in the 884 00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:50,640 spoken to, those soldiers in the 885 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,110 spoken to, those soldiers in the courtroom contradicted each other, but 886 00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:53,120 courtroom contradicted each other, but 887 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:55,750 courtroom contradicted each other, but also contradicted the initial statements 888 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:55,760 also contradicted the initial statements 889 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,909 also contradicted the initial statements that they'd made about who stood where 890 00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:57,919 that they'd made about who stood where 891 00:19:57,919 --> 00:19:59,669 that they'd made about who stood where and who was there and when she did this 892 00:19:59,669 --> 00:19:59,679 and who was there and when she did this 893 00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:02,230 and who was there and when she did this and where she was exactly. So, I think 894 00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:02,240 and where she was exactly. So, I think 895 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,590 and where she was exactly. So, I think it's it's a tragic 896 00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:05,600 it's it's a tragic 897 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,150 it's it's a tragic a tragic thing for American justice that 898 00:20:08,150 --> 00:20:08,160 a tragic thing for American justice that 899 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,110 a tragic thing for American justice that the jury found her guilty, but in the 900 00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:11,120 the jury found her guilty, but in the 901 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:15,430 the jury found her guilty, but in the climate of New York post 911, somebody 902 00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:15,440 climate of New York post 911, somebody 903 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,590 climate of New York post 911, somebody whose reputation had been completely 904 00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:17,600 whose reputation had been completely 905 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,510 whose reputation had been completely trashed deliberately by the people who 906 00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:21,520 trashed deliberately by the people who 907 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,950 trashed deliberately by the people who leaked stories that she was a gununner 908 00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:24,960 leaked stories that she was a gununner 909 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,390 leaked stories that she was a gununner or a money launderer for al-Qaeda, that 910 00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:28,400 or a money launderer for al-Qaeda, that 911 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,230 or a money launderer for al-Qaeda, that she was married into a big al-Qaeda 912 00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:30,240 she was married into a big al-Qaeda 913 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,310 she was married into a big al-Qaeda family. All these things were lies, but 914 00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:32,320 family. All these things were lies, but 915 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,310 family. All these things were lies, but they were put out into the media. And 916 00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:34,320 they were put out into the media. And 917 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,950 they were put out into the media. And so, not surprisingly, in America, people 918 00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:36,960 so, not surprisingly, in America, people 919 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,110 so, not surprisingly, in America, people who didn't know any of the details had 920 00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:39,120 who didn't know any of the details had 921 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:41,510 who didn't know any of the details had an image of her, and it was that false 922 00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:41,520 an image of her, and it was that false 923 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,110 an image of her, and it was that false image which allowed her to be convicted. 924 00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:45,120 image which allowed her to be convicted. 925 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:48,630 image which allowed her to be convicted. As for getting 86 years, outrageous is 926 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:48,640 As for getting 86 years, outrageous is 927 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,070 As for getting 86 years, outrageous is the only possible way. 928 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:50,080 the only possible way. 929 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,070 the only possible way. >> Any comments on that before we go to uh 930 00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:52,080 >> Any comments on that before we go to uh 931 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,830 >> Any comments on that before we go to uh more of the Joe Rogan? 932 00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:53,840 more of the Joe Rogan? 933 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,669 more of the Joe Rogan? >> Yeah, that's Victoria Britain. I know 934 00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:55,679 >> Yeah, that's Victoria Britain. I know 935 00:20:55,679 --> 00:20:58,149 >> Yeah, that's Victoria Britain. I know Victoria. She's a very decent woman and 936 00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:58,159 Victoria. She's a very decent woman and 937 00:20:58,159 --> 00:21:02,149 Victoria. She's a very decent woman and she's right. And the the crucial thing 938 00:21:02,149 --> 00:21:02,159 she's right. And the the crucial thing 939 00:21:02,159 --> 00:21:04,390 she's right. And the the crucial thing that that I'm not sure she knew at the 940 00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:04,400 that that I'm not sure she knew at the 941 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,669 that that I'm not sure she knew at the time, but we know now is that the 942 00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:07,679 time, but we know now is that the 943 00:21:07,679 --> 00:21:10,070 time, but we know now is that the evidence that was offered at trial for 944 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:10,080 evidence that was offered at trial for 945 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,590 evidence that was offered at trial for Afia trying to shoot um the the the 946 00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:13,600 Afia trying to shoot um the the the 947 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,990 Afia trying to shoot um the the the military officers in the room came from 948 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:16,000 military officers in the room came from 949 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,870 military officers in the room came from these supposed witnesses and included 950 00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:18,880 these supposed witnesses and included 951 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,149 these supposed witnesses and included two holes in the wall that they says 952 00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:22,159 two holes in the wall that they says 953 00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:24,230 two holes in the wall that they says were the bullet holes where the bullets 954 00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:24,240 were the bullet holes where the bullets 955 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,710 were the bullet holes where the bullets that she fired merily missed killing 956 00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:26,720 that she fired merily missed killing 957 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,029 that she fired merily missed killing American soldiers and ended up in those 958 00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:29,039 American soldiers and ended up in those 959 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:30,710 American soldiers and ended up in those holes. And indeed, one of the American 960 00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:30,720 holes. And indeed, one of the American 961 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,430 holes. And indeed, one of the American soldiers there said, "I saw the bullet 962 00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:33,440 soldiers there said, "I saw the bullet 963 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,830 soldiers there said, "I saw the bullet going past me." So, she's obviously 964 00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:35,840 going past me." So, she's obviously 965 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,110 going past me." So, she's obviously Superwoman. Um, we've now got a video 966 00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:39,120 Superwoman. Um, we've now got a video 967 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:42,310 Superwoman. Um, we've now got a video from that same room earlier that same 968 00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:42,320 from that same room earlier that same 969 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,430 from that same room earlier that same day that shows the two holes in the wall 970 00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:45,440 day that shows the two holes in the wall 971 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,230 day that shows the two holes in the wall already. And so, that proves that what 972 00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:48,240 already. And so, that proves that what 973 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,390 already. And so, that proves that what Afia said is true. She didn't fire the 974 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:50,400 Afia said is true. She didn't fire the 975 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,470 Afia said is true. She didn't fire the gun. There were no bullets found that 976 00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:52,480 gun. There were no bullets found that 977 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,070 gun. There were no bullets found that she could have fired. There were bullets 978 00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:54,080 she could have fired. There were bullets 979 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,390 she could have fired. There were bullets found that were fired at her. both of 980 00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:56,400 found that were fired at her. both of 981 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,510 found that were fired at her. both of the bullets that hit her but none um 982 00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:59,520 the bullets that hit her but none um 983 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,510 the bullets that hit her but none um that she supposedly fired. So the whole 984 00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:01,520 that she supposedly fired. So the whole 985 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,710 that she supposedly fired. So the whole case against her was nonsense but uh 986 00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:04,720 case against her was nonsense but uh 987 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,350 case against her was nonsense but uh unfortunately she didn't get the defense 988 00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:07,360 unfortunately she didn't get the defense 989 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,750 unfortunately she didn't get the defense she needed to because there weren't any 990 00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:09,760 she needed to because there weren't any 991 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,270 she needed to because there weren't any witnesses available. 992 00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:11,280 witnesses available. 993 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,870 witnesses available. >> This part is reported they caught her 994 00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:12,880 >> This part is reported they caught her 995 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,750 >> This part is reported they caught her and somehow again the air quote somehow 996 00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:15,760 and somehow again the air quote somehow 997 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,870 and somehow again the air quote somehow she got a hold of a Marine's rifle and 998 00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:18,880 she got a hold of a Marine's rifle and 999 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,190 she got a hold of a Marine's rifle and fire and was firing at the FBI agents 1000 00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:21,200 fire and was firing at the FBI agents 1001 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,070 fire and was firing at the FBI agents interviewing her. This is all public and 1002 00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:24,080 interviewing her. This is all public and 1003 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,230 interviewing her. This is all public and she was shot. They take her to the 1004 00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:26,240 she was shot. They take her to the 1005 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,070 she was shot. They take her to the United States, gave her a trial, decided 1006 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:28,080 United States, gave her a trial, decided 1007 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,149 United States, gave her a trial, decided she was insane, put her in a mental 1008 00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:30,159 she was insane, put her in a mental 1009 00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:31,669 she was insane, put her in a mental institution. 1010 00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:31,679 institution. 1011 00:22:31,679 --> 00:22:33,510 institution. But what had never been revealed before 1012 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:33,520 But what had never been revealed before 1013 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,669 But what had never been revealed before my book is that in her handbag, she had 1014 00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:37,679 my book is that in her handbag, she had 1015 00:22:37,679 --> 00:22:41,029 my book is that in her handbag, she had plans to create a genetically modified 1016 00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:41,039 plans to create a genetically modified 1017 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:44,630 plans to create a genetically modified pathogen that mixed rabies with 1018 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:44,640 pathogen that mixed rabies with 1019 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,710 pathogen that mixed rabies with chickenpox. 1020 00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:48,720 1021 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,789 Think about that. Imagine airborne 1022 00:22:50,789 --> 00:22:50,799 Think about that. Imagine airborne 1023 00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:53,590 Think about that. Imagine airborne rabies. rabies like pneumonic plague is 1024 00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:53,600 rabies. rabies like pneumonic plague is 1025 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,830 rabies. rabies like pneumonic plague is one of the only other pathogens that has 1026 00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:55,840 one of the only other pathogens that has 1027 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:01,270 one of the only other pathogens that has 100% death rate without counter measures 1028 00:23:01,270 --> 00:23:01,280 100% death rate without counter measures 1029 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,350 100% death rate without counter measures >> and rabies like when you see it in 1030 00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:03,360 >> and rabies like when you see it in 1031 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:05,350 >> and rabies like when you see it in animals. I've never actually encountered 1032 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:05,360 animals. I've never actually encountered 1033 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:08,070 animals. I've never actually encountered a rabbit animal in the in the wild. This 1034 00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:08,080 a rabbit animal in the in the wild. This 1035 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,630 a rabbit animal in the in the wild. This is 1036 00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:08,640 is 1037 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,190 is >> Cly when you hear that you're like man 1038 00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:11,200 >> Cly when you hear that you're like man 1039 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,149 >> Cly when you hear that you're like man wow this is uh she it's good they caught 1040 00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:14,159 wow this is uh she it's good they caught 1041 00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:15,029 wow this is uh she it's good they caught her. 1042 00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:15,039 her. 1043 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:17,750 her. >> All right, you know can I just share 1044 00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:17,760 >> All right, you know can I just share 1045 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,430 >> All right, you know can I just share something with you? I've been bitten by 1046 00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:19,440 something with you? I've been bitten by 1047 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,630 something with you? I've been bitten by a rabbit cat and and I'm still alive. I 1048 00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:22,640 a rabbit cat and and I'm still alive. I 1049 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,990 a rabbit cat and and I'm still alive. I don't know how I managed to do that 1050 00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:24,000 don't know how I managed to do that 1051 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,990 don't know how I managed to do that somehow, but I did have the shots and 1052 00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:26,000 somehow, but I did have the shots and 1053 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,070 somehow, but I did have the shots and everything after it happened. But number 1054 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:28,080 everything after it happened. But number 1055 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,549 everything after it happened. But number one, she's just she uses air quotes and 1056 00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:30,559 one, she's just she uses air quotes and 1057 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:32,630 one, she's just she uses air quotes and whenever people use air quotes, they're 1058 00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:32,640 whenever people use air quotes, they're 1059 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,669 whenever people use air quotes, they're normally making stuff up. She wasn't 1060 00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:35,679 normally making stuff up. She wasn't 1061 00:23:35,679 --> 00:23:37,510 normally making stuff up. She wasn't being interrogated, as I said, by the 1062 00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:37,520 being interrogated, as I said, by the 1063 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,310 being interrogated, as I said, by the FBI. And there were no I've got a 1064 00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:40,320 FBI. And there were no I've got a 1065 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,990 FBI. And there were no I've got a security clearance. I'm not going to 1066 00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:42,000 security clearance. I'm not going to 1067 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,630 security clearance. I'm not going to tell you what was in her bag because I 1068 00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:44,640 tell you what was in her bag because I 1069 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,789 tell you what was in her bag because I can't do it because that would be a 1070 00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:46,799 can't do it because that would be a 1071 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:50,149 can't do it because that would be a criminal offense. And whoever these CIA 1072 00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:50,159 criminal offense. And whoever these CIA 1073 00:23:50,159 --> 00:23:53,350 criminal offense. And whoever these CIA agents are who are blabbing this 1074 00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:53,360 agents are who are blabbing this 1075 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,950 agents are who are blabbing this nonsense to Annie uh during a criminal 1076 00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:56,960 nonsense to Annie uh during a criminal 1077 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,549 nonsense to Annie uh during a criminal offense for which they can get many 1078 00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:58,559 offense for which they can get many 1079 00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:00,630 offense for which they can get many years in prison. But I can do this. I 1080 00:24:00,630 --> 00:24:00,640 years in prison. But I can do this. I 1081 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,590 years in prison. But I can do this. I can say this. There is nothing in the 1082 00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:03,600 can say this. There is nothing in the 1083 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,710 can say this. There is nothing in the materials that they say that Afia had 1084 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:06,720 materials that they say that Afia had 1085 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,710 materials that they say that Afia had that has anything to do with airborne 1086 00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:08,720 that has anything to do with airborne 1087 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,750 that has anything to do with airborne rabies or any WMD nonsense like that. 1088 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:11,760 rabies or any WMD nonsense like that. 1089 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,310 rabies or any WMD nonsense like that. And indeed everything that was 1090 00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:14,320 And indeed everything that was 1091 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,390 And indeed everything that was supposedly on her was actually planted 1092 00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:16,400 supposedly on her was actually planted 1093 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,789 supposedly on her was actually planted on her and we can prove it. Uh, and we 1094 00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:18,799 on her and we can prove it. Uh, and we 1095 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:21,669 on her and we can prove it. Uh, and we can prove it because the big thing they 1096 00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:21,679 can prove it because the big thing they 1097 00:24:21,679 --> 00:24:23,750 can prove it because the big thing they had on her, which I can tell you because 1098 00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:23,760 had on her, which I can tell you because 1099 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,470 had on her, which I can tell you because it came out publicly, is that Afia 1100 00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:26,480 it came out publicly, is that Afia 1101 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,430 it came out publicly, is that Afia Sadiki, you know, this woman who trained 1102 00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:29,440 Sadiki, you know, this woman who trained 1103 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,470 Sadiki, you know, this woman who trained primary school kid, was was going to 1104 00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:32,480 primary school kid, was was going to 1105 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,310 primary school kid, was was going to teach people how to shoot down 1106 00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:34,320 teach people how to shoot down 1107 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,310 teach people how to shoot down satellites. Now, I don't know if you 1108 00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:36,320 satellites. Now, I don't know if you 1109 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,070 satellites. Now, I don't know if you know how to shoot down a satellite, but 1110 00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:38,080 know how to shoot down a satellite, but 1111 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,909 know how to shoot down a satellite, but I was a scientist in my youth, and I 1112 00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:39,919 I was a scientist in my youth, and I 1113 00:24:39,919 --> 00:24:42,630 I was a scientist in my youth, and I can't say I do either. And what they had 1114 00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:42,640 can't say I do either. And what they had 1115 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,230 can't say I do either. And what they had in her handwritings, I can now prove was 1116 00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:46,240 in her handwritings, I can now prove was 1117 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,510 in her handwritings, I can now prove was copied out from a print magazine of 1118 00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:49,520 copied out from a print magazine of 1119 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,029 copied out from a print magazine of Discover magazine um that was only 1120 00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:53,039 Discover magazine um that was only 1121 00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:55,830 Discover magazine um that was only published in America that Afia couldn't 1122 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:55,840 published in America that Afia couldn't 1123 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,750 published in America that Afia couldn't have got unless it was given to her by 1124 00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:57,760 have got unless it was given to her by 1125 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,230 have got unless it was given to her by the CIA people who were torturing her. 1126 00:25:00,230 --> 00:25:00,240 the CIA people who were torturing her. 1127 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,950 the CIA people who were torturing her. And it's proved positive that what she's 1128 00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:02,960 And it's proved positive that what she's 1129 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,669 And it's proved positive that what she's said all along is true that she was 1130 00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:05,679 said all along is true that she was 1131 00:25:05,679 --> 00:25:07,510 said all along is true that she was forced to write certain things out that 1132 00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:07,520 forced to write certain things out that 1133 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,630 forced to write certain things out that they were using to to frame her. And so, 1134 00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:10,640 they were using to to frame her. And so, 1135 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,990 they were using to to frame her. And so, but there was nothing in there about 1136 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:12,000 but there was nothing in there about 1137 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,510 but there was nothing in there about rabies. So, I don't know where Annie 1138 00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:13,520 rabies. So, I don't know where Annie 1139 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,149 rabies. So, I don't know where Annie gets that. Uh, she's just she's just 1140 00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:16,159 gets that. Uh, she's just she's just 1141 00:25:16,159 --> 00:25:18,710 gets that. Uh, she's just she's just been told a pack of lies. And all of 1142 00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:18,720 been told a pack of lies. And all of 1143 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,669 been told a pack of lies. And all of this was designed to falsify a case 1144 00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:21,679 this was designed to falsify a case 1145 00:25:21,679 --> 00:25:24,390 this was designed to falsify a case against this woman because the CIA 1146 00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:24,400 against this woman because the CIA 1147 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,029 against this woman because the CIA realized they'd made a terrible mistake 1148 00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:27,039 realized they'd made a terrible mistake 1149 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:29,350 realized they'd made a terrible mistake in taking her in the first place. And 1150 00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:29,360 in taking her in the first place. And 1151 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,750 in taking her in the first place. And they didn't want to look back. And I am 1152 00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:31,760 they didn't want to look back. And I am 1153 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,830 they didn't want to look back. And I am dying. I'm trying to get her two 1154 00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:33,840 dying. I'm trying to get her two 1155 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,510 dying. I'm trying to get her two senators. She lived in Boston, 1156 00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:35,520 senators. She lived in Boston, 1157 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,190 senators. She lived in Boston, Massachusetts. And I want to get the 1158 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:37,200 Massachusetts. And I want to get the 1159 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,070 Massachusetts. And I want to get the Democratic senators to hold a hearing in 1160 00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:40,080 Democratic senators to hold a hearing in 1161 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,669 Democratic senators to hold a hearing in Congress about just what the CIA did to 1162 00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:43,679 Congress about just what the CIA did to 1163 00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:46,710 Congress about just what the CIA did to this woman because if we publish it or 1164 00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:46,720 this woman because if we publish it or 1165 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,390 this woman because if we publish it or if we're if I'm allowed to publish 1166 00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:48,400 if we're if I'm allowed to publish 1167 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,950 if we're if I'm allowed to publish everything I know it's still classified. 1168 00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:50,960 everything I know it's still classified. 1169 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,870 everything I know it's still classified. Um you know this there's going to be 1170 00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:52,880 Um you know this there's going to be 1171 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,230 Um you know this there's going to be heads rolling at the CIA. It really is. 1172 00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:56,240 heads rolling at the CIA. It really is. 1173 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,149 heads rolling at the CIA. It really is. >> There was another Congresswoman Cynthia 1174 00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:58,159 >> There was another Congresswoman Cynthia 1175 00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:00,950 >> There was another Congresswoman Cynthia McKini. She was also speaking out in 1176 00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:00,960 McKini. She was also speaking out in 1177 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,870 McKini. She was also speaking out in defense of her, wasn't she? Are you 1178 00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:02,880 defense of her, wasn't she? Are you 1179 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,149 defense of her, wasn't she? Are you familiar with her? 1180 00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:04,159 familiar with her? 1181 00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:06,390 familiar with her? Yeah, I lived in Atlanta for years and 1182 00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:06,400 Yeah, I lived in Atlanta for years and 1183 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,549 Yeah, I lived in Atlanta for years and she's a good one. 1184 00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:08,559 she's a good one. 1185 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:10,390 she's a good one. >> Let's continue on. Throw their own 1186 00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:10,400 >> Let's continue on. Throw their own 1187 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,470 >> Let's continue on. Throw their own safety out the window and just go after 1188 00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:12,480 safety out the window and just go after 1189 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,070 safety out the window and just go after people and try to bite them. 1190 00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:14,080 people and try to bite them. 1191 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,630 people and try to bite them. >> I mean, it's like a it's like rabies is 1192 00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:16,640 >> I mean, it's like a it's like rabies is 1193 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,909 >> I mean, it's like a it's like rabies is a like now its own ra a rabid animal. 1194 00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:19,919 a like now its own ra a rabid animal. 1195 00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:21,669 a like now its own ra a rabid animal. Well, you think of it of it's so 1196 00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:21,679 Well, you think of it of it's so 1197 00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:22,630 Well, you think of it of it's so visceral. 1198 00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:22,640 visceral. 1199 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,029 visceral. >> It's going to come at you with its 1200 00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:25,039 >> It's going to come at you with its 1201 00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:28,230 >> It's going to come at you with its infected saliva. I almost went with the 1202 00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:28,240 infected saliva. I almost went with the 1203 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,190 infected saliva. I almost went with the rabies scenario because I I always in 1204 00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:31,200 rabies scenario because I I always in 1205 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,190 rabies scenario because I I always in these scenarios tie them to actual 1206 00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:33,200 these scenarios tie them to actual 1207 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,710 these scenarios tie them to actual events that have this is science fact 1208 00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:34,720 events that have this is science fact 1209 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,710 events that have this is science fact not science fiction and so when I 1210 00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:36,720 not science fiction and so when I 1211 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,470 not science fiction and so when I learned about that plan for to for the 1212 00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:40,480 learned about that plan for to for the 1213 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,070 learned about that plan for to for the genetic modification of rabies and 1214 00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:42,080 genetic modification of rabies and 1215 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,230 genetic modification of rabies and chicken airborne rabies but then I 1216 00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:44,240 chicken airborne rabies but then I 1217 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:44,470 chicken airborne rabies but then I thought 1218 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:44,480 thought 1219 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,230 thought >> how far did she get along with this 1220 00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:46,240 >> how far did she get along with this 1221 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,510 >> how far did she get along with this >> that is classified Annie you know but I 1222 00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:49,520 >> that is classified Annie you know but I 1223 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,070 >> that is classified Annie you know but I did get a second person David Realman 1224 00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:52,080 did get a second person David Realman 1225 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,510 did get a second person David Realman who's the adviser to the president on 1226 00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:53,520 who's the adviser to the president on 1227 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,909 who's the adviser to the president on biod defense to confirm with me that 1228 00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:55,919 biod defense to confirm with me that 1229 00:26:55,919 --> 00:26:58,710 biod defense to confirm with me that that was actually located in her handbag 1230 00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:58,720 that was actually located in her handbag 1231 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,789 that was actually located in her handbag and caused serious concern. 1232 00:27:00,789 --> 00:27:00,799 and caused serious concern. 1233 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:02,710 and caused serious concern. >> Well, now imagine if they never found 1234 00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:02,720 >> Well, now imagine if they never found 1235 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,870 >> Well, now imagine if they never found her, they never caught her and she 1236 00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:04,880 her, they never caught her and she 1237 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,630 her, they never caught her and she completed that. 1238 00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:06,640 completed that. 1239 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,549 completed that. >> I mean, it's really terrifying. 1240 00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:08,559 >> I mean, it's really terrifying. 1241 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:10,149 >> I mean, it's really terrifying. >> It wipes out most of the country. 1242 00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:10,159 >> It wipes out most of the country. 1243 00:27:10,159 --> 00:27:11,990 >> It wipes out most of the country. >> And also just in the most horrific way. 1244 00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:12,000 >> And also just in the most horrific way. 1245 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,710 >> And also just in the most horrific way. I mean, you know, like having to like 1246 00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:14,720 I mean, you know, like having to like 1247 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,870 I mean, you know, like having to like look at your pet and be like, is my pet 1248 00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:16,880 look at your pet and be like, is my pet 1249 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,510 look at your pet and be like, is my pet rabbit? It's just 1250 00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:19,520 rabbit? It's just 1251 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,669 rabbit? It's just >> your thoughts. Now she's connecting to 1252 00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:21,679 >> your thoughts. Now she's connecting to 1253 00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:23,350 >> your thoughts. Now she's connecting to some higher official who's giving her 1254 00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:23,360 some higher official who's giving her 1255 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:24,630 some higher official who's giving her confirmation. What do you say about 1256 00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:24,640 confirmation. What do you say about 1257 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,029 confirmation. What do you say about that? 1258 00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:25,039 that? 1259 00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:26,789 that? >> Yeah. Well, I've got one of my 1260 00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:26,799 >> Yeah. Well, I've got one of my 1261 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:28,870 >> Yeah. Well, I've got one of my colleagues here just got the guy's email 1262 00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:28,880 colleagues here just got the guy's email 1263 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,549 colleagues here just got the guy's email because I want to talk to him because I 1264 00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:30,559 because I want to talk to him because I 1265 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:32,470 because I want to talk to him because I know it's nonsense because I've seen all 1266 00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:32,480 know it's nonsense because I've seen all 1267 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,190 know it's nonsense because I've seen all the evidence. I know he didn't say that 1268 00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:35,200 the evidence. I know he didn't say that 1269 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,669 the evidence. I know he didn't say that because he seems like a decent professor 1270 00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:37,679 because he seems like a decent professor 1271 00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:40,390 because he seems like a decent professor at Stanford and I can't believe for one 1272 00:27:40,390 --> 00:27:40,400 at Stanford and I can't believe for one 1273 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,029 at Stanford and I can't believe for one second he did it. I will say this that 1274 00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:43,039 second he did it. I will say this that 1275 00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:45,669 second he did it. I will say this that Annie Jacobson has written all sorts of 1276 00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:45,679 Annie Jacobson has written all sorts of 1277 00:27:45,679 --> 00:27:47,590 Annie Jacobson has written all sorts of TV programs including, you know, the 1278 00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:47,600 TV programs including, you know, the 1279 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,070 TV programs including, you know, the Jack Ryan series. Um, and all of the 1280 00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:52,080 Jack Ryan series. Um, and all of the 1281 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,510 Jack Ryan series. Um, and all of the stuff she's doing would be great. 1282 00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:53,520 stuff she's doing would be great. 1283 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,070 stuff she's doing would be great. Television and some nonsensical 1284 00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:56,080 Television and some nonsensical 1285 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,350 Television and some nonsensical fictional thing where we terrify America 1286 00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:59,360 fictional thing where we terrify America 1287 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,789 fictional thing where we terrify America with rabies killing us all. It's just 1288 00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:02,799 with rabies killing us all. It's just 1289 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:05,909 with rabies killing us all. It's just nonsense. And you can't scientifically 1290 00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:05,919 nonsense. And you can't scientifically 1291 00:28:05,919 --> 00:28:09,350 nonsense. And you can't scientifically you can't have rabies through the air 1292 00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:09,360 you can't have rabies through the air 1293 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,350 you can't have rabies through the air across America killing everyone. It's 1294 00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:11,360 across America killing everyone. It's 1295 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:14,710 across America killing everyone. It's just physically impossible. Um, so it's 1296 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:14,720 just physically impossible. Um, so it's 1297 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,789 just physically impossible. Um, so it's all very good for for one of her TV 1298 00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:16,799 all very good for for one of her TV 1299 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:19,350 all very good for for one of her TV series as long as it's fiction and not 1300 00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:19,360 series as long as it's fiction and not 1301 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:20,950 series as long as it's fiction and not to treat once with that. 1302 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:20,960 to treat once with that. 1303 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,230 to treat once with that. >> She's really got Joe Rogan going. She's 1304 00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:24,240 >> She's really got Joe Rogan going. She's 1305 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,470 >> She's really got Joe Rogan going. She's really into He's like, "Wow, man." You 1306 00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:26,480 really into He's like, "Wow, man." You 1307 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,029 really into He's like, "Wow, man." You know, thank God they caught her. Thank I 1308 00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:29,039 know, thank God they caught her. Thank I 1309 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:30,470 know, thank God they caught her. Thank I mean, imagine what would have happened. 1310 00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:30,480 mean, imagine what would have happened. 1311 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,470 mean, imagine what would have happened. Let's continue on. 1312 00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:32,480 Let's continue on. 1313 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,830 Let's continue on. >> That's not like this is the only time 1314 00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:33,840 >> That's not like this is the only time 1315 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,830 >> That's not like this is the only time they thought of that. This is the only 1316 00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:35,840 they thought of that. This is the only 1317 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,669 they thought of that. This is the only person that they tried to recruit to do 1318 00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:37,679 person that they tried to recruit to do 1319 00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:38,870 person that they tried to recruit to do this kind of stuff. There's probably 1320 00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:38,880 this kind of stuff. There's probably 1321 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,830 this kind of stuff. There's probably someone out there right now. Mhm. 1322 00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:41,840 someone out there right now. Mhm. 1323 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,669 someone out there right now. Mhm. >> Hence your book. 1324 00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:43,679 >> Hence your book. 1325 00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:46,710 >> Hence your book. >> I mean, I interviewed this guy, very 1326 00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:46,720 >> I mean, I interviewed this guy, very 1327 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,510 >> I mean, I interviewed this guy, very famous, legendary CIA officer named 1328 00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:49,520 famous, legendary CIA officer named 1329 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,470 famous, legendary CIA officer named Ralph Moat Larson, and he led the 1330 00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:54,480 Ralph Moat Larson, and he led the 1331 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,510 Ralph Moat Larson, and he led the the counterw team, biological weapons 1332 00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:57,520 the counterw team, biological weapons 1333 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,830 the counterw team, biological weapons maker for al-Qaeda. And like, you know, 1334 00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:59,840 maker for al-Qaeda. And like, you know, 1335 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,389 maker for al-Qaeda. And like, you know, it's just chilling. It's basically you 1336 00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:02,399 it's just chilling. It's basically you 1337 00:29:02,399 --> 00:29:05,510 it's just chilling. It's basically you get the feeling like that Rol said I got 1338 00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:05,520 get the feeling like that Rol said I got 1339 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,789 get the feeling like that Rol said I got them to agree to stop temporarily 1340 00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:10,799 1341 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:11,669 temporarily. 1342 00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:11,679 temporarily. 1343 00:29:11,679 --> 00:29:12,389 temporarily. >> Temporary. 1344 00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:12,399 >> Temporary. 1345 00:29:12,399 --> 00:29:14,149 >> Temporary. >> What do you think? I mean, someone who's 1346 00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:14,159 >> What do you think? I mean, someone who's 1347 00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:16,870 >> What do you think? I mean, someone who's like yourself, you got people like the 1348 00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:16,880 like yourself, you got people like the 1349 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,789 like yourself, you got people like the former attorney general, going back to 1350 00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:18,799 former attorney general, going back to 1351 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:20,789 former attorney general, going back to the presidential candidates, you know, 1352 00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:20,799 the presidential candidates, you know, 1353 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:22,470 the presidential candidates, you know, especially Ramsey Clark who know who 1354 00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:22,480 especially Ramsey Clark who know who 1355 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,710 especially Ramsey Clark who know who knew the law, who really knew the the 1356 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:24,720 knew the law, who really knew the the 1357 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,750 knew the law, who really knew the the the the case, someone like you now who's 1358 00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:27,760 the the case, someone like you now who's 1359 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,070 the the case, someone like you now who's invested time flying to Afghanistan, 1360 00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:30,080 invested time flying to Afghanistan, 1361 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,230 invested time flying to Afghanistan, taking the time, but then how do you 1362 00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:32,240 taking the time, but then how do you 1363 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,710 taking the time, but then how do you look at someone like this, Amy? You're 1364 00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:34,720 look at someone like this, Amy? You're 1365 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,710 look at someone like this, Amy? You're you're you're being very polite. you're 1366 00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:36,720 you're you're being very polite. you're 1367 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,310 you're you're being very polite. you're very uh c you know cordial and I can see 1368 00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:40,320 very uh c you know cordial and I can see 1369 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,990 very uh c you know cordial and I can see you're a very nice person to talk to 1370 00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:42,000 you're a very nice person to talk to 1371 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,950 you're a very nice person to talk to even though you know she's uh when you 1372 00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:44,960 even though you know she's uh when you 1373 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,110 even though you know she's uh when you look at her she's telling a story and 1374 00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:47,120 look at her she's telling a story and 1375 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,430 look at her she's telling a story and she's very persuasive. 1376 00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:49,440 she's very persuasive. 1377 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,430 she's very persuasive. How much of this is this is she 1378 00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:51,440 How much of this is this is she 1379 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,070 How much of this is this is she consciously she knows or is she also 1380 00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:54,080 consciously she knows or is she also 1381 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,990 consciously she knows or is she also misled herself or but then when you look 1382 00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:56,000 misled herself or but then when you look 1383 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,590 misled herself or but then when you look at the books that she's written before 1384 00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:57,600 at the books that she's written before 1385 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,830 at the books that she's written before fiction books is she just been sold out 1386 00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:59,840 fiction books is she just been sold out 1387 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,830 fiction books is she just been sold out to she wants to sell her product that's 1388 00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:01,840 to she wants to sell her product that's 1389 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,669 to she wants to sell her product that's it at all cost she just doesn't really 1390 00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:03,679 it at all cost she just doesn't really 1391 00:30:03,679 --> 00:30:05,190 it at all cost she just doesn't really care. 1392 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:05,200 care. 1393 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,070 care. I mean, you can find people who believe 1394 00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:08,080 I mean, you can find people who believe 1395 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,029 I mean, you can find people who believe anything. Yeah. King Charles in England 1396 00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:11,039 anything. Yeah. King Charles in England 1397 00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:14,230 anything. Yeah. King Charles in England right now is one of the 5% of people who 1398 00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:14,240 right now is one of the 5% of people who 1399 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,909 right now is one of the 5% of people who think they've actually met the space 1400 00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:15,919 think they've actually met the space 1401 00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:19,190 think they've actually met the space alien. And you know, I'm not convinced 1402 00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:19,200 alien. And you know, I'm not convinced 1403 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,149 alien. And you know, I'm not convinced that is right. I'm not convinced that 1404 00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:22,159 that is right. I'm not convinced that 1405 00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:23,750 that is right. I'm not convinced that any of these people have met space 1406 00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:23,760 any of these people have met space 1407 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,750 any of these people have met space aliens. I'm not convinced that Annie's 1408 00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:25,760 aliens. I'm not convinced that Annie's 1409 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,510 aliens. I'm not convinced that Annie's met space aliens. Um, and and for me, 1410 00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:29,520 met space aliens. Um, and and for me, 1411 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,430 met space aliens. Um, and and for me, that's not because they're bad people. 1412 00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:31,440 that's not because they're bad people. 1413 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,909 that's not because they're bad people. King Charles is a nice chap, you know. I 1414 00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:33,919 King Charles is a nice chap, you know. I 1415 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,990 King Charles is a nice chap, you know. I they're just delusional that they were 1416 00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:36,000 they're just delusional that they were 1417 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,070 they're just delusional that they were taking LSD or something at the time. I'm 1418 00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:38,080 taking LSD or something at the time. I'm 1419 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,070 taking LSD or something at the time. I'm not sure what they were doing. I don't 1420 00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:40,080 not sure what they were doing. I don't 1421 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,190 not sure what they were doing. I don't think Annie just thinks she's making 1422 00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:43,200 think Annie just thinks she's making 1423 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,870 think Annie just thinks she's making stuff up. I think she thinks she's a 1424 00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:44,880 stuff up. I think she thinks she's a 1425 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,190 stuff up. I think she thinks she's a genuine journalist. But that makes her 1426 00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:47,200 genuine journalist. But that makes her 1427 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,110 genuine journalist. But that makes her very dangerous because what she's 1428 00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:49,120 very dangerous because what she's 1429 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,350 very dangerous because what she's hearing is utter utter nonsense. And you 1430 00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:53,360 hearing is utter utter nonsense. And you 1431 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,269 hearing is utter utter nonsense. And you know, it's my job to defend people who 1432 00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:55,279 know, it's my job to defend people who 1433 00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:57,350 know, it's my job to defend people who are on the receiving end of this stuff. 1434 00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:57,360 are on the receiving end of this stuff. 1435 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,990 are on the receiving end of this stuff. And I I have not a lot of sympathy for 1436 00:30:59,990 --> 00:31:00,000 And I I have not a lot of sympathy for 1437 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,149 And I I have not a lot of sympathy for Annie. She makes lots of money off all 1438 00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:02,159 Annie. She makes lots of money off all 1439 00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:04,549 Annie. She makes lots of money off all these things. I have an enormous amount 1440 00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:04,559 these things. I have an enormous amount 1441 00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:07,669 these things. I have an enormous amount of sympathy for Afia Sadiki who is 1442 00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:07,679 of sympathy for Afia Sadiki who is 1443 00:31:07,679 --> 00:31:10,470 of sympathy for Afia Sadiki who is currently rotting being abused in a 1444 00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:10,480 currently rotting being abused in a 1445 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,950 currently rotting being abused in a horrible horrible prison and she's been 1446 00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:12,960 horrible horrible prison and she's been 1447 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,029 horrible horrible prison and she's been locked up for 23 years without seeing 1448 00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:15,039 locked up for 23 years without seeing 1449 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:17,190 locked up for 23 years without seeing her children. I have a lot of sympathy 1450 00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:17,200 her children. I have a lot of sympathy 1451 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,470 her children. I have a lot of sympathy for her because she's innocent. 1452 00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:20,480 for her because she's innocent. 1453 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,710 for her because she's innocent. >> Yeah. And uh like you said, very 1454 00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:22,720 >> Yeah. And uh like you said, very 1455 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,430 >> Yeah. And uh like you said, very dangerous. Joe Rogan just had a very 1456 00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:25,440 dangerous. Joe Rogan just had a very 1457 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,510 dangerous. Joe Rogan just had a very dangerous guest on his program and we 1458 00:31:29,510 --> 00:31:29,520 dangerous guest on his program and we 1459 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,269 dangerous guest on his program and we really 1460 00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:31,279 really 1461 00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:33,990 really really want him to uh do the right 1462 00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:34,000 really want him to uh do the right 1463 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,470 really want him to uh do the right thing, you know, do the right thing. 1464 00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:36,480 thing, you know, do the right thing. 1465 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,789 thing, you know, do the right thing. >> I you know I think people Joe Rogan gets 1466 00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:38,799 >> I you know I think people Joe Rogan gets 1467 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:40,389 >> I you know I think people Joe Rogan gets a bad rap from some people. I don't 1468 00:31:40,389 --> 00:31:40,399 a bad rap from some people. I don't 1469 00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:41,669 a bad rap from some people. I don't think he's a bad guy talk. 1470 00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:41,679 think he's a bad guy talk. 1471 00:31:41,679 --> 00:31:43,509 think he's a bad guy talk. >> No, I don't think so either. No. 1472 00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:43,519 >> No, I don't think so either. No. 1473 00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:45,430 >> No, I don't think so either. No. >> Yeah. I think he gets people on his 1474 00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:45,440 >> Yeah. I think he gets people on his 1475 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,310 >> Yeah. I think he gets people on his program from all walks of life and we 1476 00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:48,320 program from all walks of life and we 1477 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,630 program from all walks of life and we just do need to sort that we read from 1478 00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:50,640 just do need to sort that we read from 1479 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,190 just do need to sort that we read from the chat and you know he can have Annie 1480 00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:53,200 the chat and you know he can have Annie 1481 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,350 the chat and you know he can have Annie on all he likes as long as we agree that 1482 00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:55,360 on all he likes as long as we agree that 1483 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,590 on all he likes as long as we agree that it's just fiction but it's when she 1484 00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:57,600 it's just fiction but it's when she 1485 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,070 it's just fiction but it's when she starts terrifying Americans with things 1486 00:32:00,070 --> 00:32:00,080 starts terrifying Americans with things 1487 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,750 starts terrifying Americans with things that are just nonsense uh and that that 1488 00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:03,760 that are just nonsense uh and that that 1489 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,430 that are just nonsense uh and that that terrif terrifying of people leads to you 1490 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:07,440 terrif terrifying of people leads to you 1491 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,070 terrif terrifying of people leads to you know this prejudice and abuse of some 1492 00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:10,080 know this prejudice and abuse of some 1493 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,870 know this prejudice and abuse of some totally defenseless woman that that 1494 00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:12,880 totally defenseless woman that that 1495 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,470 totally defenseless woman that that really kind bugs me I'm afraid and 1496 00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:14,480 really kind bugs me I'm afraid and 1497 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,070 really kind bugs me I'm afraid and that's where we got to step in and put a 1498 00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:16,080 that's where we got to step in and put a 1499 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,110 that's where we got to step in and put a stop there. 1500 00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:17,120 stop there. 1501 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,230 stop there. >> Do you think there could be now some 1502 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:20,240 >> Do you think there could be now some 1503 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,350 >> Do you think there could be now some hope here because through his program 1504 00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:23,360 hope here because through his program 1505 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,950 hope here because through his program it's actually getting people talking 1506 00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:24,960 it's actually getting people talking 1507 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,590 it's actually getting people talking about it again. So people go down that 1508 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:27,600 about it again. So people go down that 1509 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,950 about it again. So people go down that rabbit hole and they're going to be like 1510 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:28,960 rabbit hole and they're going to be like 1511 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,509 rabbit hole and they're going to be like hold on like like they listen to this 1512 00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:31,519 hold on like like they listen to this 1513 00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:34,230 hold on like like they listen to this and now uh they look at the facts you 1514 00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:34,240 and now uh they look at the facts you 1515 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,710 and now uh they look at the facts you know and they see like hold on this this 1516 00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:36,720 know and they see like hold on this this 1517 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,149 know and they see like hold on this this lady's lying and then this is going to 1518 00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:38,159 lady's lying and then this is going to 1519 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:40,789 lady's lying and then this is going to create more momentum. Is that possibly 1520 00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:40,799 create more momentum. Is that possibly 1521 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:42,950 create more momentum. Is that possibly good that growth on this? 1522 00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:42,960 good that growth on this? 1523 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,190 good that growth on this? >> Let me tell you this. I mean, first I'm 1524 00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:45,200 >> Let me tell you this. I mean, first I'm 1525 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,230 >> Let me tell you this. I mean, first I'm very grateful to you for for having this 1526 00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:48,240 very grateful to you for for having this 1527 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,230 very grateful to you for for having this show and talking about it in a sensible 1528 00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:50,240 show and talking about it in a sensible 1529 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,110 show and talking about it in a sensible way. Uh and and I do think there are 1530 00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:53,120 way. Uh and and I do think there are 1531 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,350 way. Uh and and I do think there are people who are willing to approach this 1532 00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:55,360 people who are willing to approach this 1533 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,830 people who are willing to approach this with an open mind. I think it's very 1534 00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:57,840 with an open mind. I think it's very 1535 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,070 with an open mind. I think it's very very hard to counteract the prejudice of 1536 00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:02,080 very hard to counteract the prejudice of 1537 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,190 very hard to counteract the prejudice of something like Annie's silly book. Um 1538 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:05,200 something like Annie's silly book. Um 1539 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,549 something like Annie's silly book. Um because you know what are we going to 1540 00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:06,559 because you know what are we going to 1541 00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:09,190 because you know what are we going to do? So I I am working with Alazer at the 1542 00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:09,200 do? So I I am working with Alazer at the 1543 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,710 do? So I I am working with Alazer at the moment on a program that will expose 1544 00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:12,720 moment on a program that will expose 1545 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,310 moment on a program that will expose everything that's possible. There are 1546 00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:14,320 everything that's possible. There are 1547 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,750 everything that's possible. There are several things I can't say because 1548 00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:15,760 several things I can't say because 1549 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,350 several things I can't say because they're classified and they're 1550 00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:17,360 they're classified and they're 1551 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,190 they're classified and they're classified by the same people who 1552 00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:19,200 classified by the same people who 1553 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,149 classified by the same people who classify that CIA nonsense. But Alazer, 1554 00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:22,159 classify that CIA nonsense. But Alazer, 1555 00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:24,230 classify that CIA nonsense. But Alazer, I've helped them interview all the 1556 00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:24,240 I've helped them interview all the 1557 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,789 I've helped them interview all the witnesses I've talked to and what they 1558 00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:26,799 witnesses I've talked to and what they 1559 00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:28,549 witnesses I've talked to and what they say to Al Jazer is not classified 1560 00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:28,559 say to Al Jazer is not classified 1561 00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:30,149 say to Al Jazer is not classified because I want the American people to 1562 00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:30,159 because I want the American people to 1563 00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:33,110 because I want the American people to hear the truth. Um, and I want them to 1564 00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:33,120 hear the truth. Um, and I want them to 1565 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,269 hear the truth. Um, and I want them to do the right thing. 1566 00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:35,279 do the right thing. 1567 00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:38,549 do the right thing. And so I think we will get the story out 1568 00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:38,559 And so I think we will get the story out 1569 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:40,310 And so I think we will get the story out there in the end. It is a fabulous 1570 00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:40,320 there in the end. It is a fabulous 1571 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,149 there in the end. It is a fabulous story. If Annie wants to write a 1572 00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:42,159 story. If Annie wants to write a 1573 00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:44,870 story. If Annie wants to write a thrilling television story, you should 1574 00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:44,880 thrilling television story, you should 1575 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,190 thrilling television story, you should tell the truth. The one reason I I write 1576 00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:47,200 tell the truth. The one reason I I write 1577 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,870 tell the truth. The one reason I I write books, right? I like writing books. I 1578 00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:48,880 books, right? I like writing books. I 1579 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,909 books, right? I like writing books. I only write non-fiction books is honestly 1580 00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:51,919 only write non-fiction books is honestly 1581 00:33:51,919 --> 00:33:54,149 only write non-fiction books is honestly I don't need to have the imagination to 1582 00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:54,159 I don't need to have the imagination to 1583 00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:56,549 I don't need to have the imagination to make stuff up like Annie. the things 1584 00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:56,559 make stuff up like Annie. the things 1585 00:33:56,559 --> 00:33:59,750 make stuff up like Annie. the things that people do to each other in our 1586 00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:59,760 that people do to each other in our 1587 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,549 that people do to each other in our world are so shocking in the first place 1588 00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:02,559 world are so shocking in the first place 1589 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:05,110 world are so shocking in the first place that we just don't report the truth and 1590 00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:05,120 that we just don't report the truth and 1591 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,630 that we just don't report the truth and and that's fine. 1592 00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:06,640 and that's fine. 1593 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,629 and that's fine. >> Yeah. And like you said, I do I like uh 1594 00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:08,639 >> Yeah. And like you said, I do I like uh 1595 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,310 >> Yeah. And like you said, I do I like uh Joe Rogan and I think now it forced me 1596 00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:12,320 Joe Rogan and I think now it forced me 1597 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,230 Joe Rogan and I think now it forced me it compelled me to go ahead when I saw 1598 00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:14,240 it compelled me to go ahead when I saw 1599 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:16,790 it compelled me to go ahead when I saw that clip. I said there I reported on 1600 00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:16,800 that clip. I said there I reported on 1601 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,230 that clip. I said there I reported on this before. We spoke about this before. 1602 00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:18,240 this before. We spoke about this before. 1603 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:20,550 this before. We spoke about this before. No, this is not right. This this is uh 1604 00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:20,560 No, this is not right. This this is uh 1605 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,389 No, this is not right. This this is uh he's been hoodwinkedked. This is uh and 1606 00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:22,399 he's been hoodwinkedked. This is uh and 1607 00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:25,510 he's been hoodwinkedked. This is uh and then uh I saw your your tweet there. 1608 00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:25,520 then uh I saw your your tweet there. 1609 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,030 then uh I saw your your tweet there. You're actually the attorney and I said, 1610 00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:27,040 You're actually the attorney and I said, 1611 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,550 You're actually the attorney and I said, "Okay, let's let's get the facts for 1612 00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:28,560 "Okay, let's let's get the facts for 1613 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,869 "Okay, let's let's get the facts for somebody who's representing her case pro 1614 00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:30,879 somebody who's representing her case pro 1615 00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:34,470 somebody who's representing her case pro bono." Uh let's go ahead and uh it 1616 00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:34,480 bono." Uh let's go ahead and uh it 1617 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,230 bono." Uh let's go ahead and uh it wasn't just Joe Rogan's program. It 1618 00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:36,240 wasn't just Joe Rogan's program. It 1619 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,869 wasn't just Joe Rogan's program. It seems like she's being featured now on 1620 00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:38,879 seems like she's being featured now on 1621 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:41,270 seems like she's being featured now on different podcasts. Let's have a look at 1622 00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:41,280 different podcasts. Let's have a look at 1623 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,230 different podcasts. Let's have a look at this one. 1624 00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:42,240 this one. 1625 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:44,069 this one. >> The FBI. This is during the height of 1626 00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:44,079 >> The FBI. This is during the height of 1627 00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:47,589 >> The FBI. This is during the height of the war on terror. She was an MIT 1628 00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:47,599 the war on terror. She was an MIT 1629 00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:51,270 the war on terror. She was an MIT trained microbiologist who was linked to 1630 00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:51,280 trained microbiologist who was linked to 1631 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,470 trained microbiologist who was linked to Khaled Shake Muhammad and this FBI was 1632 00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:54,480 Khaled Shake Muhammad and this FBI was 1633 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,030 Khaled Shake Muhammad and this FBI was after her after the 9/11 terrorist 1634 00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:57,040 after her after the 9/11 terrorist 1635 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,430 after her after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. FBI was after her. They heard 1636 00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:59,440 attacks. FBI was after her. They heard 1637 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,670 attacks. FBI was after her. They heard she was developing boweapons. They 1638 00:35:01,670 --> 00:35:01,680 she was developing boweapons. They 1639 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,750 she was developing boweapons. They couldn't find her. They finally found 1640 00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:03,760 couldn't find her. They finally found 1641 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,670 couldn't find her. They finally found her. This part is all reported. They 1642 00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:05,680 her. This part is all reported. They 1643 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,750 her. This part is all reported. They finally found her, you know, acting 1644 00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:07,760 finally found her, you know, acting 1645 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,910 finally found her, you know, acting strange outside a police station in 1646 00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:09,920 strange outside a police station in 1647 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,470 strange outside a police station in Afghanistan. Uh there was a big sort of 1648 00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:12,480 Afghanistan. Uh there was a big sort of 1649 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,550 Afghanistan. Uh there was a big sort of kurfuffle. She grabbed a gun. Someone 1650 00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:14,560 kurfuffle. She grabbed a gun. Someone 1651 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,550 kurfuffle. She grabbed a gun. Someone was shot. I mean, it's all very millions 1652 00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:16,560 was shot. I mean, it's all very millions 1653 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,150 was shot. I mean, it's all very millions of conspiracies have been developed 1654 00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:18,160 of conspiracies have been developed 1655 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,150 of conspiracies have been developed around this. She's now in a state 1656 00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:20,160 around this. She's now in a state 1657 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,870 around this. She's now in a state facility in Texas for 80 years in in a 1658 00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:22,880 facility in Texas for 80 years in in a 1659 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,870 facility in Texas for 80 years in in a penitentiary, in a mental institution. 1660 00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:24,880 penitentiary, in a mental institution. 1661 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,349 penitentiary, in a mental institution. This is the unreported fact that Lawler 1662 00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:27,359 This is the unreported fact that Lawler 1663 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,430 This is the unreported fact that Lawler told me and was confirmed by a second 1664 00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:29,440 told me and was confirmed by a second 1665 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,589 told me and was confirmed by a second person, which is shocking to your point 1666 00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:31,599 person, which is shocking to your point 1667 00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:34,470 person, which is shocking to your point about making something airborne. 1668 00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:34,480 about making something airborne. 1669 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,349 about making something airborne. in her bag, in her handbag, she had 1670 00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:37,359 in her bag, in her handbag, she had 1671 00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:39,030 in her bag, in her handbag, she had plans 1672 00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:39,040 plans 1673 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,790 plans to create a chimera weapon that mixed 1674 00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:42,800 to create a chimera weapon that mixed 1675 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,870 to create a chimera weapon that mixed rabies. 1676 00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:44,880 rabies. 1677 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,230 rabies. >> Okay, she's repeating the same thing 1678 00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:46,240 >> Okay, she's repeating the same thing 1679 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,950 >> Okay, she's repeating the same thing that she said on Joe Rogan's program. 1680 00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:48,960 that she said on Joe Rogan's program. 1681 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,310 that she said on Joe Rogan's program. But do you think that's interesting now? 1682 00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:50,320 But do you think that's interesting now? 1683 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,589 But do you think that's interesting now? Now she's I I was surprised that Okay. 1684 00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:53,599 Now she's I I was surprised that Okay. 1685 00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:56,230 Now she's I I was surprised that Okay. She was on Joe Rogan's and now she's 1686 00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:56,240 She was on Joe Rogan's and now she's 1687 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,710 She was on Joe Rogan's and now she's being Did you see uh did you know about 1688 00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:58,720 being Did you see uh did you know about 1689 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:00,069 being Did you see uh did you know about this interview? 1690 00:36:00,069 --> 00:36:00,079 this interview? 1691 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:03,109 this interview? >> Oh, yeah. That's Danny Jones. And it was 1692 00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:03,119 >> Oh, yeah. That's Danny Jones. And it was 1693 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:05,190 >> Oh, yeah. That's Danny Jones. And it was actually totally inconsistent with what 1694 00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:05,200 actually totally inconsistent with what 1695 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,829 actually totally inconsistent with what she said on Rogan in many ways. She in 1696 00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:07,839 she said on Rogan in many ways. She in 1697 00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:10,710 she said on Rogan in many ways. She in Rogan she says he was out that Alfia was 1698 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:10,720 Rogan she says he was out that Alfia was 1699 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,030 Rogan she says he was out that Alfia was outside the governor's house. Here she 1700 00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:13,040 outside the governor's house. Here she 1701 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,950 outside the governor's house. Here she says that she was outside the police 1702 00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:14,960 says that she was outside the police 1703 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,190 says that she was outside the police station. Neither of those is true. She 1704 00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:17,200 station. Neither of those is true. She 1705 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,710 station. Neither of those is true. She was outside the bin mosques and that's 1706 00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:20,720 was outside the bin mosques and that's 1707 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,270 was outside the bin mosques and that's she was there because she' been told by 1708 00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:23,280 she was there because she' been told by 1709 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,990 she was there because she' been told by the CIA that she could have her daughter 1710 00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:26,000 the CIA that she could have her daughter 1711 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,230 the CIA that she could have her daughter back if she waited there. She waited 1712 00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:28,240 back if she waited there. She waited 1713 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:31,030 back if she waited there. She waited there for seven hours and no one brought 1714 00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:31,040 there for seven hours and no one brought 1715 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,630 there for seven hours and no one brought her daughter there. No one could talk to 1716 00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:32,640 her daughter there. No one could talk to 1717 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,430 her daughter there. No one could talk to her because she didn't speak fast until 1718 00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:35,440 her because she didn't speak fast until 1719 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,550 her because she didn't speak fast until finally this guy who I found in Gadney, 1720 00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:38,560 finally this guy who I found in Gadney, 1721 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,430 finally this guy who I found in Gadney, Muhammad Ashal Muhammadi um came up and 1722 00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:41,440 Muhammad Ashal Muhammadi um came up and 1723 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,790 Muhammad Ashal Muhammadi um came up and talked to her and he was the one who 1724 00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:42,800 talked to her and he was the one who 1725 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,270 talked to her and he was the one who saved her life because they dressed her 1726 00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:45,280 saved her life because they dressed her 1727 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,310 saved her life because they dressed her son up in what looked like a suicide 1728 00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:48,320 son up in what looked like a suicide 1729 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,069 son up in what looked like a suicide bomber jacket. It was the middle of 1730 00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:50,079 bomber jacket. It was the middle of 1731 00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:52,550 bomber jacket. It was the middle of summer in Afghanistan and very hot and 1732 00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:52,560 summer in Afghanistan and very hot and 1733 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,550 summer in Afghanistan and very hot and he had a winter coat on with four 1734 00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:54,560 he had a winter coat on with four 1735 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,349 he had a winter coat on with four pockets. And uh in those pockets were 1736 00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:57,359 pockets. And uh in those pockets were 1737 00:36:57,359 --> 00:36:58,950 pockets. And uh in those pockets were big bits of fruit to make him look like 1738 00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:58,960 big bits of fruit to make him look like 1739 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,750 big bits of fruit to make him look like a suicide bomber. And the plan was that 1740 00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:01,760 a suicide bomber. And the plan was that 1741 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,550 a suicide bomber. And the plan was that she was to be shot. The only reason she 1742 00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:04,560 she was to be shot. The only reason she 1743 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,390 she was to be shot. The only reason she wasn't shocked was because this chat 1744 00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:06,400 wasn't shocked was because this chat 1745 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,109 wasn't shocked was because this chat Muhammad stood in front of her and said 1746 00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:09,119 Muhammad stood in front of her and said 1747 00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:12,950 Muhammad stood in front of her and said to to the 40 police officers am with 1748 00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:12,960 to to the 40 police officers am with 1749 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,670 to to the 40 police officers am with their AK-47s that she wasn't a suicide 1750 00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:15,680 their AK-47s that she wasn't a suicide 1751 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,430 their AK-47s that she wasn't a suicide bomb. So that's what really happened. 1752 00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:17,440 bomb. So that's what really happened. 1753 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,589 bomb. So that's what really happened. But there's a funny part to all of this 1754 00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:19,599 But there's a funny part to all of this 1755 00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,150 But there's a funny part to all of this because now she says she's not talking 1756 00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:22,160 because now she says she's not talking 1757 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,950 because now she says she's not talking about Ralph Moat Lassen anymore. She's 1758 00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:24,960 about Ralph Moat Lassen anymore. She's 1759 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,990 about Ralph Moat Lassen anymore. She's talking about this chap James Doler, a 1760 00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:28,000 talking about this chap James Doler, a 1761 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,870 talking about this chap James Doler, a CIA guy who she said this all came from 1762 00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:30,880 CIA guy who she said this all came from 1763 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,349 CIA guy who she said this all came from about the rabies. Well, you know, one of 1764 00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:33,359 about the rabies. Well, you know, one of 1765 00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:35,670 about the rabies. Well, you know, one of the amusing things about that is Mr. 1766 00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:35,680 the amusing things about that is Mr. 1767 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,510 the amusing things about that is Mr. Lawler's nickname is Mad Dog. Mad Dog 1768 00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:39,520 Lawler's nickname is Mad Dog. Mad Dog 1769 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,310 Lawler's nickname is Mad Dog. Mad Dog Lola. And he's called Mad Dog Lawler 1770 00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:42,320 Lola. And he's called Mad Dog Lawler 1771 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,470 Lola. And he's called Mad Dog Lawler because once he was bitten by what was a 1772 00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:44,480 because once he was bitten by what was a 1773 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,710 because once he was bitten by what was a rabid dog and so that's what they called 1774 00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:46,720 rabid dog and so that's what they called 1775 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,190 rabid dog and so that's what they called it. Now, you know, here we are with this 1776 00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:49,200 it. Now, you know, here we are with this 1777 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,190 it. Now, you know, here we are with this whole fantasy about rabies. I don't know 1778 00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:51,200 whole fantasy about rabies. I don't know 1779 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,589 whole fantasy about rabies. I don't know whether Mr. Zora made it up because he'd 1780 00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:53,599 whether Mr. Zora made it up because he'd 1781 00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:55,510 whether Mr. Zora made it up because he'd been bitten by a rabid dog and he's not 1782 00:37:55,510 --> 00:37:55,520 been bitten by a rabid dog and he's not 1783 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,710 been bitten by a rabid dog and he's not dead. So, he survived thankfully. I 1784 00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:58,720 dead. So, he survived thankfully. I 1785 00:37:58,720 --> 00:37:59,990 dead. So, he survived thankfully. I don't know where that comes from, but 1786 00:37:59,990 --> 00:38:00,000 don't know where that comes from, but 1787 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,870 don't know where that comes from, but it's all just a fabulous fictional story 1788 00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:02,880 it's all just a fabulous fictional story 1789 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,950 it's all just a fabulous fictional story that they made up, but the truth is 1790 00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:04,960 that they made up, but the truth is 1791 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,310 that they made up, but the truth is pretty fabulous as well. 1792 00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:08,320 pretty fabulous as well. 1793 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,710 pretty fabulous as well. Now, this uh I mean it doesn't stop 1794 00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:10,720 Now, this uh I mean it doesn't stop 1795 00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:12,310 Now, this uh I mean it doesn't stop there. It's really spreading. I mean, 1796 00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:12,320 there. It's really spreading. I mean, 1797 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,550 there. It's really spreading. I mean, this is another uh major channel 1798 00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:16,560 this is another uh major channel 1799 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,710 this is another uh major channel that's on X. Uh are you familiar with 1800 00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:18,720 that's on X. Uh are you familiar with 1801 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:20,630 that's on X. Uh are you familiar with this? Mario Nefell? 1802 00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:20,640 this? Mario Nefell? 1803 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,030 this? Mario Nefell? >> I know this is a new one on me. I'd like 1804 00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:23,040 >> I know this is a new one on me. I'd like 1805 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,349 >> I know this is a new one on me. I'd like to I'll talk to Mario. 1806 00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:25,359 to I'll talk to Mario. 1807 00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:26,950 to I'll talk to Mario. >> You know Mario? 1808 00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:26,960 >> You know Mario? 1809 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,390 >> You know Mario? >> No, I don't. I never heard him. 1810 00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:28,400 >> No, I don't. I never heard him. 1811 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,950 >> No, I don't. I never heard him. >> Okay. So, he's one of the bigger um 1812 00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:30,960 >> Okay. So, he's one of the bigger um 1813 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,310 >> Okay. So, he's one of the bigger um platforms there on Elon Musk X. And you 1814 00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:34,320 platforms there on Elon Musk X. And you 1815 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,589 platforms there on Elon Musk X. And you can see here um he's also reporting on 1816 00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:37,599 can see here um he's also reporting on 1817 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,069 can see here um he's also reporting on this. So this is gaining traction now. 1818 00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:40,079 this. So this is gaining traction now. 1819 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,150 this. So this is gaining traction now. More people are discussing this and 1820 00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:42,160 More people are discussing this and 1821 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,550 More people are discussing this and they're running with uh the 1822 00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:44,560 they're running with uh the 1823 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,710 they're running with uh the misinformation and the lies that we're 1824 00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:46,720 misinformation and the lies that we're 1825 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:48,150 misinformation and the lies that we're getting. Um 1826 00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:48,160 getting. Um 1827 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,430 getting. Um >> you know and another thing that's 1828 00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:49,440 >> you know and another thing that's 1829 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,670 >> you know and another thing that's mentioned here is on the most wanted 1830 00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:51,680 mentioned here is on the most wanted 1831 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,470 mentioned here is on the most wanted list and that the FBI was searching for 1832 00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:54,480 list and that the FBI was searching for 1833 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,710 list and that the FBI was searching for Afia for five years from 2003 to 2008. 1834 00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:58,720 Afia for five years from 2003 to 2008. 1835 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,790 Afia for five years from 2003 to 2008. There's a reason they couldn't find her. 1836 00:39:00,790 --> 00:39:00,800 There's a reason they couldn't find her. 1837 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,589 There's a reason they couldn't find her. And the reason is that she was in CIA 1838 00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:03,599 And the reason is that she was in CIA 1839 00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:06,870 And the reason is that she was in CIA custody the whole time being tortured by 1840 00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:06,880 custody the whole time being tortured by 1841 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,430 custody the whole time being tortured by the CIA. Now, I can prove that because I 1842 00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:09,440 the CIA. Now, I can prove that because I 1843 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,510 the CIA. Now, I can prove that because I got a whole series of witnesses. I 1844 00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:11,520 got a whole series of witnesses. I 1845 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,190 got a whole series of witnesses. I somehow doubt you're going to get the 1846 00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:13,200 somehow doubt you're going to get the 1847 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,270 somehow doubt you're going to get the CIA to come on your program and admit 1848 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:15,280 CIA to come on your program and admit 1849 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,750 CIA to come on your program and admit it. But, and you all of this stuff 1850 00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:17,760 it. But, and you all of this stuff 1851 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,750 it. But, and you all of this stuff again, it would just be funny if it 1852 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:19,760 again, it would just be funny if it 1853 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,069 again, it would just be funny if it wasn't true that they're all going 1854 00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:22,079 wasn't true that they're all going 1855 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,550 wasn't true that they're all going around saying that Afia is the evil 1856 00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:24,560 around saying that Afia is the evil 1857 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,150 around saying that Afia is the evil person, Rose, in fact, the things they 1858 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:26,160 person, Rose, in fact, the things they 1859 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,510 person, Rose, in fact, the things they did to her were just inhuman. 1860 00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:29,520 did to her were just inhuman. 1861 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,069 did to her were just inhuman. As we're talking uh in my last program 1862 00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:32,079 As we're talking uh in my last program 1863 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:33,990 As we're talking uh in my last program that I did on this years ago, there was 1864 00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:34,000 that I did on this years ago, there was 1865 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,710 that I did on this years ago, there was a individual. He's someone who's a 1866 00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:36,720 a individual. He's someone who's a 1867 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,150 a individual. He's someone who's a college student and he made a comic 1868 00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:38,160 college student and he made a comic 1869 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,150 college student and he made a comic book. How accurate is that? Have you 1870 00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:40,160 book. How accurate is that? Have you 1871 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,790 book. How accurate is that? Have you seen that comic book that sketches out 1872 00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:42,800 seen that comic book that sketches out 1873 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,390 seen that comic book that sketches out uh step by step what happened? How 1874 00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:44,400 uh step by step what happened? How 1875 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,390 uh step by step what happened? How accurate is that? Maybe we can go ahead 1876 00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:46,400 accurate is that? Maybe we can go ahead 1877 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,510 accurate is that? Maybe we can go ahead and show it. 1878 00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:47,520 and show it. 1879 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,069 and show it. >> Yeah, show it. It is pretty accurate. I 1880 00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:50,079 >> Yeah, show it. It is pretty accurate. I 1881 00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:51,990 >> Yeah, show it. It is pretty accurate. I know more now than they knew then, but 1882 00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:52,000 know more now than they knew then, but 1883 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,550 know more now than they knew then, but it is pretty accurate. Yeah. 1884 00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:54,560 it is pretty accurate. Yeah. 1885 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,230 it is pretty accurate. Yeah. >> So, before we conclude, what else can 1886 00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:56,240 >> So, before we conclude, what else can 1887 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:57,510 >> So, before we conclude, what else can you tell us? What would you tell Joe 1888 00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:57,520 you tell us? What would you tell Joe 1889 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,190 you tell us? What would you tell Joe Rogan? What would you tell people like 1890 00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:59,200 Rogan? What would you tell people like 1891 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,829 Rogan? What would you tell people like Mario, um, Amy? I mean, people who 1892 00:40:01,829 --> 00:40:01,839 Mario, um, Amy? I mean, people who 1893 00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:04,470 Mario, um, Amy? I mean, people who really want to know, uh, sincere people 1894 00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:04,480 really want to know, uh, sincere people 1895 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,470 really want to know, uh, sincere people who want to know the facts. 1896 00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:06,480 who want to know the facts. 1897 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,630 who want to know the facts. >> Well, the first thing I'd say is when 1898 00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:08,640 >> Well, the first thing I'd say is when 1899 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,550 >> Well, the first thing I'd say is when you have great power, it's really 1900 00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:10,560 you have great power, it's really 1901 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,109 you have great power, it's really important that you use it carefully. And 1902 00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:13,119 important that you use it carefully. And 1903 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,430 important that you use it carefully. And I say that to Joe just as I would say it 1904 00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:15,440 I say that to Joe just as I would say it 1905 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,310 I say that to Joe just as I would say it to the CIA who had immense power. And 1906 00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:18,320 to the CIA who had immense power. And 1907 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,390 to the CIA who had immense power. And I'm afraid in this case, people haven't 1908 00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:20,400 I'm afraid in this case, people haven't 1909 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,790 I'm afraid in this case, people haven't used it carefully. And and and they are 1910 00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:22,800 used it carefully. And and and they are 1911 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,270 used it carefully. And and and they are just flat wrong. And I would be very 1912 00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:25,280 just flat wrong. And I would be very 1913 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,710 just flat wrong. And I would be very very happy to share all the true facts 1914 00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:28,720 very happy to share all the true facts 1915 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,030 very happy to share all the true facts with anyone who wants to know it. And 1916 00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:31,040 with anyone who wants to know it. And 1917 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,790 with anyone who wants to know it. And there are still I'm trying to get 1918 00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:32,800 there are still I'm trying to get 1919 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,510 there are still I'm trying to get declassified some of the material that I 1920 00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:35,520 declassified some of the material that I 1921 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,670 declassified some of the material that I know that further prove just what 1922 00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:39,680 know that further prove just what 1923 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,630 know that further prove just what nonsense on the CIA thought they knew. I 1924 00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:42,640 nonsense on the CIA thought they knew. I 1925 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,510 nonsense on the CIA thought they knew. I can say I can tell you this. I I I've 1926 00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:45,520 can say I can tell you this. I I I've 1927 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,990 can say I can tell you this. I I I've taken a statement from one of the secret 1928 00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:48,000 taken a statement from one of the secret 1929 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,230 taken a statement from one of the secret agents who was familiar with this back 1930 00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:50,240 agents who was familiar with this back 1931 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,670 agents who was familiar with this back in 2002. And I can't tell you the 1932 00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:53,680 in 2002. And I can't tell you the 1933 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,390 in 2002. And I can't tell you the details now because it's classified, but 1934 00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:56,400 details now because it's classified, but 1935 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,109 details now because it's classified, but I can tell you this. The agent lists 1936 00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:59,119 I can tell you this. The agent lists 1937 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:00,870 I can tell you this. The agent lists everything they thought they knew about 1938 00:41:00,870 --> 00:41:00,880 everything they thought they knew about 1939 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,069 everything they thought they knew about Afia Sadiki and every single thing they 1940 00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:06,079 Afia Sadiki and every single thing they 1941 00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,790 Afia Sadiki and every single thing they stated as fact was wrong. So this was 1942 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:08,800 stated as fact was wrong. So this was 1943 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,030 stated as fact was wrong. So this was just an example of intelligence being 1944 00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:11,040 just an example of intelligence being 1945 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,030 just an example of intelligence being deeply deeply flawed. And and what I 1946 00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:13,040 deeply deeply flawed. And and what I 1947 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,630 deeply deeply flawed. And and what I advise uh to all these people is before 1948 00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:16,640 advise uh to all these people is before 1949 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,270 advise uh to all these people is before you go defaming 1950 00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:19,280 you go defaming 1951 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,030 you go defaming a totally defenseless truly traumatized 1952 00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:23,040 a totally defenseless truly traumatized 1953 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,510 a totally defenseless truly traumatized woman who's lost her whole life, her 1954 00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:25,520 woman who's lost her whole life, her 1955 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,390 woman who's lost her whole life, her children and everything. Please, please 1956 00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:28,400 children and everything. Please, please 1957 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,550 children and everything. Please, please be responsible. Just just call me up. 1958 00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:30,560 be responsible. Just just call me up. 1959 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,550 be responsible. Just just call me up. I'll I'll share with you the truth to 1960 00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:32,560 I'll I'll share with you the truth to 1961 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,790 I'll I'll share with you the truth to the once I can do it, which is pretty 1962 00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:34,800 the once I can do it, which is pretty 1963 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,950 the once I can do it, which is pretty long, 370 pages. Um and and you can make 1964 00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:38,960 long, 370 pages. Um and and you can make 1965 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,430 long, 370 pages. Um and and you can make up your own rhinestones. What I thought 1966 00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:41,440 up your own rhinestones. What I thought 1967 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,230 up your own rhinestones. What I thought was interesting here in this uh comic 1968 00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:44,240 was interesting here in this uh comic 1969 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:49,030 was interesting here in this uh comic series one part where it talks about why 1970 00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:49,040 series one part where it talks about why 1971 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,550 series one part where it talks about why was she captured and he says that in the 1972 00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:52,560 was she captured and he says that in the 1973 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,270 was she captured and he says that in the four years between 2001 2005 it is 1974 00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:55,280 four years between 2001 2005 it is 1975 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,829 four years between 2001 2005 it is estimated that uh Perez Bashar the 1976 00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:59,839 estimated that uh Perez Bashar the 1977 00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:02,950 estimated that uh Perez Bashar the previous president I believe it was of 1978 00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:02,960 previous president I believe it was of 1979 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,069 previous president I believe it was of was it Pakistan that he handed over 400 1980 00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:06,079 was it Pakistan that he handed over 400 1981 00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,390 was it Pakistan that he handed over 400 to 800 prisoners to the US who were 1982 00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:08,400 to 800 prisoners to the US who were 1983 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,990 to 800 prisoners to the US who were mainly innocent but the capture made was 1984 00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:12,000 mainly innocent but the capture made was 1985 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,190 mainly innocent but the capture made was uh to justify the war on terror and I 1986 00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:15,200 uh to justify the war on terror and I 1987 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,190 uh to justify the war on terror and I believe if I'm not mistaken for each 1988 00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:17,200 believe if I'm not mistaken for each 1989 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,349 believe if I'm not mistaken for each person that they handed over money was 1990 00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:19,359 person that they handed over money was 1991 00:42:19,359 --> 00:42:21,510 person that they handed over money was exchanged for I don't know was it like 1992 00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:21,520 exchanged for I don't know was it like 1993 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,550 exchanged for I don't know was it like $50,000 or something so it's like it 1994 00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:24,560 $50,000 or something so it's like it 1995 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,030 $50,000 or something so it's like it gives you uh the motive kind of there 1996 00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:27,040 gives you uh the motive kind of there 1997 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,630 gives you uh the motive kind of there it's business 1998 00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:28,640 it's business 1999 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,630 it's business >> well and we're not making that up 2000 00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:30,640 >> well and we're not making that up 2001 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,190 >> well and we're not making that up because General Masher wrote a book 2002 00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:33,200 because General Masher wrote a book 2003 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,670 because General Masher wrote a book called In the Line of Fire and if you 2004 00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:35,680 called In the Line of Fire and if you 2005 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,309 called In the Line of Fire and if you look at page 234 2006 00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:38,319 look at page 234 2007 00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:41,190 look at page 234 is rather terrible book. Uh it boasts 2008 00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:41,200 is rather terrible book. Uh it boasts 2009 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,349 is rather terrible book. Uh it boasts right there that you know more than half 2010 00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:43,359 right there that you know more than half 2011 00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:46,470 right there that you know more than half of the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay were 2012 00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:46,480 of the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay were 2013 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,109 of the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay were sold for bounties to to the CIA. Now I'd 2014 00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:51,119 sold for bounties to to the CIA. Now I'd 2015 00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:53,910 sold for bounties to to the CIA. Now I'd been to Guantanamo Bay 42 times. I like 2016 00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:53,920 been to Guantanamo Bay 42 times. I like 2017 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,990 been to Guantanamo Bay 42 times. I like to say it is my Caribbean resort of 2018 00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:56,000 to say it is my Caribbean resort of 2019 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,510 to say it is my Caribbean resort of choice. I've represented 87 prisoners. 2020 00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:59,520 choice. I've represented 87 prisoners. 2021 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,829 choice. I've represented 87 prisoners. Every single one so far we've proven 2022 00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:03,839 Every single one so far we've proven 2023 00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:06,790 Every single one so far we've proven innocent. Not to my satisfaction. not to 2024 00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:06,800 innocent. Not to my satisfaction. not to 2025 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,190 innocent. Not to my satisfaction. not to my satisfaction, but in order to get 2026 00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:09,200 my satisfaction, but in order to get 2027 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,710 my satisfaction, but in order to get someone out of there, you have to get 2028 00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:10,720 someone out of there, you have to get 2029 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:14,309 someone out of there, you have to get all six of the top uh US intelligence 2030 00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:14,319 all six of the top uh US intelligence 2031 00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:16,790 all six of the top uh US intelligence agencies to say, "This guy's no threat 2032 00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:16,800 agencies to say, "This guy's no threat 2033 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,829 agencies to say, "This guy's no threat to anyone." And in every case, that's 2034 00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:19,839 to anyone." And in every case, that's 2035 00:43:19,839 --> 00:43:22,470 to anyone." And in every case, that's been the case. So, they've been wrong 2036 00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:22,480 been the case. So, they've been wrong 2037 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,710 been the case. So, they've been wrong 100% of the time with my clients. Now, I 2038 00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:26,720 100% of the time with my clients. Now, I 2039 00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:29,190 100% of the time with my clients. Now, I would never have believed that. Back in 2040 00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:29,200 would never have believed that. Back in 2041 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,150 would never have believed that. Back in 2002 when I brought first case against 2042 00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:32,160 2002 when I brought first case against 2043 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,950 2002 when I brought first case against Granton, I never ever would have 2044 00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:34,960 Granton, I never ever would have 2045 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,870 Granton, I never ever would have believed that the CIA could get it that 2046 00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:36,880 believed that the CIA could get it that 2047 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,390 believed that the CIA could get it that wrong. But the reason they did get it 2048 00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:38,400 wrong. But the reason they did get it 2049 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,349 wrong. But the reason they did get it wrong was they were paying bounties and 2050 00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:41,359 wrong was they were paying bounties and 2051 00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:42,870 wrong was they were paying bounties and $55,000 2052 00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:42,880 $55,000 2053 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,589 $55,000 in Pakistan is the equivalent of a 2054 00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:45,599 in Pakistan is the equivalent of a 2055 00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,910 in Pakistan is the equivalent of a million dollars in America. So look to 2056 00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:47,920 million dollars in America. So look to 2057 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,790 million dollars in America. So look to the person on your right and te ask 2058 00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:50,800 the person on your right and te ask 2059 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,670 the person on your right and te ask yourself for a million dollars would I 2060 00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:53,680 yourself for a million dollars would I 2061 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,069 yourself for a million dollars would I lie about that person and make up a 2062 00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:56,079 lie about that person and make up a 2063 00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,230 lie about that person and make up a story saying they were a terrorist? And 2064 00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:58,240 story saying they were a terrorist? And 2065 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,390 story saying they were a terrorist? And if the answer for one second is yes, 2066 00:44:00,390 --> 00:44:00,400 if the answer for one second is yes, 2067 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,230 if the answer for one second is yes, then you know why everyone ended up in 2068 00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:02,240 then you know why everyone ended up in 2069 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:03,829 then you know why everyone ended up in Guantanamo Bay. There's one thing 2070 00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:03,839 Guantanamo Bay. There's one thing 2071 00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:07,190 Guantanamo Bay. There's one thing further for Afia. She was sold that also 2072 00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:07,200 further for Afia. She was sold that also 2073 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,829 further for Afia. She was sold that also the other thing they did was they had a 2074 00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:09,839 the other thing they did was they had a 2075 00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:11,670 the other thing they did was they had a little picture book and [clears throat] 2076 00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:11,680 little picture book and [clears throat] 2077 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,630 little picture book and [clears throat] they tortured people to tell a story 2078 00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:14,640 they tortured people to tell a story 2079 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,870 they tortured people to tell a story about people in the picture book. the 2080 00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:16,880 about people in the picture book. the 2081 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,510 about people in the picture book. the people they were torturing 2082 00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:19,520 people they were torturing 2083 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,109 people they were torturing uh looked at the pictures and they were 2084 00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:21,119 uh looked at the pictures and they were 2085 00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,829 uh looked at the pictures and they were mostly men and there was one woman and a 2086 00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:23,839 mostly men and there was one woman and a 2087 00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:26,230 mostly men and there was one woman and a lot of these guys were were conservative 2088 00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:26,240 lot of these guys were were conservative 2089 00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:28,150 lot of these guys were were conservative Muslim people from around the world and 2090 00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:28,160 Muslim people from around the world and 2091 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,910 Muslim people from around the world and you'll forgive me for saying a terrible 2092 00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:29,920 you'll forgive me for saying a terrible 2093 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,790 you'll forgive me for saying a terrible griminalization but teeny bit chauvinist 2094 00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:32,800 griminalization but teeny bit chauvinist 2095 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:38,069 griminalization but teeny bit chauvinist sometimes and the men identified Afia 2096 00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:38,079 sometimes and the men identified Afia 2097 00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:39,589 sometimes and the men identified Afia because they thought no one would 2098 00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:39,599 because they thought no one would 2099 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,430 because they thought no one would believe them. They thought no one would 2100 00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:41,440 believe them. They thought no one would 2101 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,069 believe them. They thought no one would be stupid enough to believe that a 2102 00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:44,079 be stupid enough to believe that a 2103 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:45,990 be stupid enough to believe that a leader of al-Qaeda was a woman because 2104 00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:46,000 leader of al-Qaeda was a woman because 2105 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,710 leader of al-Qaeda was a woman because there weren't any women. And so people 2106 00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:48,720 there weren't any women. And so people 2107 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:50,790 there weren't any women. And so people did that and and actually there's this 2108 00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:50,800 did that and and actually there's this 2109 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,470 did that and and actually there's this woman who calls herself the queen of 2110 00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:52,480 woman who calls herself the queen of 2111 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,230 woman who calls herself the queen of torture who took Afia's picture to Hal 2112 00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:56,240 torture who took Afia's picture to Hal 2113 00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,150 torture who took Afia's picture to Hal Shake Muhammad the guy who Annie 2114 00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:58,160 Shake Muhammad the guy who Annie 2115 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,470 Shake Muhammad the guy who Annie Jacobson mentioned who was this guy 2116 00:45:00,470 --> 00:45:00,480 Jacobson mentioned who was this guy 2117 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,750 Jacobson mentioned who was this guy behind 911 and he was being waterboarded 2118 00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:03,760 behind 911 and he was being waterboarded 2119 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,790 behind 911 and he was being waterboarded at the time and he initially said no I 2120 00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:06,800 at the time and he initially said no I 2121 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,470 at the time and he initially said no I have no idea who this woman is. They 2122 00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:08,480 have no idea who this woman is. They 2123 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,790 have no idea who this woman is. They waterboarded a bit more and he said, "Oh 2124 00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:10,800 waterboarded a bit more and he said, "Oh 2125 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,030 waterboarded a bit more and he said, "Oh yeah, she's a leader of al-Qaeda." And 2126 00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:13,040 yeah, she's a leader of al-Qaeda." And 2127 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,109 yeah, she's a leader of al-Qaeda." And if you look at this is all in the Senate 2128 00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:15,119 if you look at this is all in the Senate 2129 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:16,950 if you look at this is all in the Senate report on torture. If you look at 2130 00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:16,960 report on torture. If you look at 2131 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,230 report on torture. If you look at footnote 1898 of the Senate's report, it 2132 00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:20,240 footnote 1898 of the Senate's report, it 2133 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:24,150 footnote 1898 of the Senate's report, it lists nine people who were tortured um 2134 00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:24,160 lists nine people who were tortured um 2135 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,710 lists nine people who were tortured um in that incident with Halik Muhammad by 2136 00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:26,720 in that incident with Halik Muhammad by 2137 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,190 in that incident with Halik Muhammad by the Queen of torture who was a CIA 2138 00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:29,200 the Queen of torture who was a CIA 2139 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,150 the Queen of torture who was a CIA agent. And all nine of those people they 2140 00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:32,160 agent. And all nine of those people they 2141 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,670 agent. And all nine of those people they thought were terrorists. I've 2142 00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:33,680 thought were terrorists. I've 2143 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,870 thought were terrorists. I've represented. It's real. We've exonerated 2144 00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:36,880 represented. It's real. We've exonerated 2145 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,670 represented. It's real. We've exonerated seven of them. The eighth one was 2146 00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:39,680 seven of them. The eighth one was 2147 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,910 seven of them. The eighth one was murdered by this by the ISIS, the 2148 00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:41,920 murdered by this by the ISIS, the 2149 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,670 murdered by this by the ISIS, the Pakistan intelligence when they were 2150 00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:43,680 Pakistan intelligence when they were 2151 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,309 Pakistan intelligence when they were abusing him. And the ninth person left 2152 00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:46,319 abusing him. And the ninth person left 2153 00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:48,550 abusing him. And the ninth person left in prison is Afia Sadiki. What is the 2154 00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:48,560 in prison is Afia Sadiki. What is the 2155 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,430 in prison is Afia Sadiki. What is the probability that Afia is the only guilty 2156 00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:51,440 probability that Afia is the only guilty 2157 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,910 probability that Afia is the only guilty persons out of the nine people 2158 00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:53,920 persons out of the nine people 2159 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,470 persons out of the nine people identified on water boarding? You know, 2160 00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:56,480 identified on water boarding? You know, 2161 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,390 identified on water boarding? You know, it's just I've spent a lot of time 2162 00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:58,400 it's just I've spent a lot of time 2163 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,230 it's just I've spent a lot of time working on this case. I can tell you 2164 00:46:00,230 --> 00:46:00,240 working on this case. I can tell you 2165 00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:03,190 working on this case. I can tell you everything about it. Uh, and it's it's 2166 00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:03,200 everything about it. Uh, and it's it's 2167 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,309 everything about it. Uh, and it's it's just so sad to see these people with 2168 00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:06,319 just so sad to see these people with 2169 00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:09,030 just so sad to see these people with power abusing their power in such a 2170 00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:09,040 power abusing their power in such a 2171 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,309 power abusing their power in such a terrible way. 2172 00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:10,319 terrible way. 2173 00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:12,150 terrible way. >> You think this was deliberately set up 2174 00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:12,160 >> You think this was deliberately set up 2175 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,630 >> You think this was deliberately set up now at a time where it might have been 2176 00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:14,640 now at a time where it might have been 2177 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,190 now at a time where it might have been getting some more traction and now 2178 00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:17,200 getting some more traction and now 2179 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,750 getting some more traction and now conveniently you have someone like this 2180 00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:19,760 conveniently you have someone like this 2181 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,230 conveniently you have someone like this uh Amy the Liar comes out with this 2182 00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:22,240 uh Amy the Liar comes out with this 2183 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,829 uh Amy the Liar comes out with this story at just this time to kind of smear 2184 00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:25,839 story at just this time to kind of smear 2185 00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:28,870 story at just this time to kind of smear and to put out false information. Now, 2186 00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:28,880 and to put out false information. Now, 2187 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,109 and to put out false information. Now, as you're as you're gaining some uh 2188 00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:31,119 as you're as you're gaining some uh 2189 00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:33,109 as you're as you're gaining some uh momentum with this case, 2190 00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:33,119 momentum with this case, 2191 00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:35,829 momentum with this case, >> well, I do think the the CIA does that 2192 00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:35,839 >> well, I do think the the CIA does that 2193 00:46:35,839 --> 00:46:37,430 >> well, I do think the the CIA does that sort of thing. I mean, they're never 2194 00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:37,440 sort of thing. I mean, they're never 2195 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,910 sort of thing. I mean, they're never going to admit that they tortured an 2196 00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:39,920 going to admit that they tortured an 2197 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,910 going to admit that they tortured an innocent woman, that they pretended to 2198 00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:41,920 innocent woman, that they pretended to 2199 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,910 innocent woman, that they pretended to torture her children in front of her, 2200 00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:43,920 torture her children in front of her, 2201 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,150 torture her children in front of her, that they actually did abuse two young 2202 00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:46,160 that they actually did abuse two young 2203 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,790 that they actually did abuse two young American children uh in the way they did 2204 00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:48,800 American children uh in the way they did 2205 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,710 American children uh in the way they did and probably murdered the third. They're 2206 00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:50,720 and probably murdered the third. They're 2207 00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:53,109 and probably murdered the third. They're never going to admit that right now. And 2208 00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:53,119 never going to admit that right now. And 2209 00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:55,190 never going to admit that right now. And I'm not asking them to I'm not even 2210 00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:55,200 I'm not asking them to I'm not even 2211 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,430 I'm not asking them to I'm not even asking them to say the simple words, I'm 2212 00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:57,440 asking them to say the simple words, I'm 2213 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,910 asking them to say the simple words, I'm sorry. I'm just asking them to let this 2214 00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:59,920 sorry. I'm just asking them to let this 2215 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,950 sorry. I'm just asking them to let this poor woman go to a hospital where she be 2216 00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:02,960 poor woman go to a hospital where she be 2217 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,750 poor woman go to a hospital where she be properly treated outside the US where we 2218 00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:05,760 properly treated outside the US where we 2219 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,470 properly treated outside the US where we can try to get her sanity back and where 2220 00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:08,480 can try to get her sanity back and where 2221 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,750 can try to get her sanity back and where we can let her see her children. But I 2222 00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:11,760 we can let her see her children. But I 2223 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,430 we can let her see her children. But I knew they were going to do this and 2224 00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:13,440 knew they were going to do this and 2225 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,069 knew they were going to do this and that's why long before I went public 2226 00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:16,079 that's why long before I went public 2227 00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:19,190 that's why long before I went public with it, I got statements from from the 2228 00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:19,200 with it, I got statements from from the 2229 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,990 with it, I got statements from from the Secret Service Agency in America. I've 2230 00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:22,000 Secret Service Agency in America. I've 2231 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,390 Secret Service Agency in America. I've got statements from ISI intelligence 2232 00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:24,400 got statements from ISI intelligence 2233 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,990 got statements from ISI intelligence agents from Pakistan. I've secretly 2234 00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:28,000 agents from Pakistan. I've secretly 2235 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,589 agents from Pakistan. I've secretly recorded the people who actually 2236 00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:29,599 recorded the people who actually 2237 00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:31,750 recorded the people who actually kidnapped her in the first place. So, 2238 00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:31,760 kidnapped her in the first place. So, 2239 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,270 kidnapped her in the first place. So, I've got the goods on them and they can 2240 00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:33,280 I've got the goods on them and they can 2241 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,950 I've got the goods on them and they can do what they want. I don't care because 2242 00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:34,960 do what they want. I don't care because 2243 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,470 do what they want. I don't care because we got the goods on them. And the more 2244 00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:36,480 we got the goods on them. And the more 2245 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,349 we got the goods on them. And the more they make me fight, the worse it's going 2246 00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:39,359 they make me fight, the worse it's going 2247 00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:41,910 they make me fight, the worse it's going to be for them. Uh, and you know, I say 2248 00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:41,920 to be for them. Uh, and you know, I say 2249 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,349 to be for them. Uh, and you know, I say that in a vaguely threatening way 2250 00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:43,359 that in a vaguely threatening way 2251 00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:45,270 that in a vaguely threatening way because I mean it because I'm here to 2252 00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:45,280 because I mean it because I'm here to 2253 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,069 because I mean it because I'm here to protect Afia who has no other 2254 00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:48,079 protect Afia who has no other 2255 00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:49,829 protect Afia who has no other protection. And these people should just 2256 00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:49,839 protection. And these people should just 2257 00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:52,390 protection. And these people should just put their hands up, say sorry, and we'll 2258 00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:52,400 put their hands up, say sorry, and we'll 2259 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,150 put their hands up, say sorry, and we'll move on. 2260 00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:54,160 move on. 2261 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,510 move on. >> Where do you see this going? 2262 00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:57,520 >> Where do you see this going? 2263 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,109 >> Where do you see this going? >> Well, and we're going to win in the end. 2264 00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:59,119 >> Well, and we're going to win in the end. 2265 00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:02,550 >> Well, and we're going to win in the end. We always win because justice is on our 2266 00:48:02,550 --> 00:48:02,560 We always win because justice is on our 2267 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,109 We always win because justice is on our side. I have no question that we're 2268 00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:05,119 side. I have no question that we're 2269 00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:07,349 side. I have no question that we're going to get this woman justice. It's a 2270 00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:07,359 going to get this woman justice. It's a 2271 00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:09,829 going to get this woman justice. It's a matter of how much time it takes. I'm a 2272 00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:09,839 matter of how much time it takes. I'm a 2273 00:48:09,839 --> 00:48:12,950 matter of how much time it takes. I'm a pathetic person who keeps my time sheets 2274 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:12,960 pathetic person who keeps my time sheets 2275 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,990 pathetic person who keeps my time sheets right. So, I can tell you I got 4,000 2276 00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:16,000 right. So, I can tell you I got 4,000 2277 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,190 right. So, I can tell you I got 4,000 hours of work, proono work in this case, 2278 00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:19,200 hours of work, proono work in this case, 2279 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,430 hours of work, proono work in this case, and I'm going to carry on doing it until 2280 00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:21,440 and I'm going to carry on doing it until 2281 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,190 and I'm going to carry on doing it until I get her out. I don't care how long it 2282 00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:23,200 I get her out. I don't care how long it 2283 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,589 I get her out. I don't care how long it takes because if I don't do that, my 2284 00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:25,599 takes because if I don't do that, my 2285 00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:28,230 takes because if I don't do that, my dear mother, who is the dearly departed 2286 00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:28,240 dear mother, who is the dearly departed 2287 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:31,030 dear mother, who is the dearly departed in heaven, she'd strike me dead. So, I 2288 00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:31,040 in heaven, she'd strike me dead. So, I 2289 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,589 in heaven, she'd strike me dead. So, I don't have a choice. Uh, so we're going 2290 00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:33,599 don't have a choice. Uh, so we're going 2291 00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:35,349 don't have a choice. Uh, so we're going to get her out. There's no question. And 2292 00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:35,359 to get her out. There's no question. And 2293 00:48:35,359 --> 00:48:37,109 to get her out. There's no question. And the more they make me work, the more 2294 00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:37,119 the more they make me work, the more 2295 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:40,069 the more they make me work, the more we're going to to expose what they did. 2296 00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:40,079 we're going to to expose what they did. 2297 00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:42,549 we're going to to expose what they did. And I keep telling these people that. uh 2298 00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:42,559 And I keep telling these people that. uh 2299 00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:44,230 And I keep telling these people that. uh and either they listen or they don't. 2300 00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:44,240 and either they listen or they don't. 2301 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:45,910 and either they listen or they don't. But I I kind of enjoy it, so I don't 2302 00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:45,920 But I I kind of enjoy it, so I don't 2303 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,829 But I I kind of enjoy it, so I don't care what they do. 2304 00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:47,839 care what they do. 2305 00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:49,990 care what they do. >> Uh let's go ahead and close up. Any 2306 00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:50,000 >> Uh let's go ahead and close up. Any 2307 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,910 >> Uh let's go ahead and close up. Any closing comments? Uh for the average 2308 00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:51,920 closing comments? Uh for the average 2309 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,309 closing comments? Uh for the average person who's who sees the injustice 2310 00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:54,319 person who's who sees the injustice 2311 00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:56,470 person who's who sees the injustice that's happening, who has a has a heart, 2312 00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:56,480 that's happening, who has a has a heart, 2313 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,549 that's happening, who has a has a heart, their conscious is on, anything they can 2314 00:48:58,549 --> 00:48:58,559 their conscious is on, anything they can 2315 00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:00,790 their conscious is on, anything they can do, anything the average person can do. 2316 00:49:00,790 --> 00:49:00,800 do, anything the average person can do. 2317 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,150 do, anything the average person can do. They don't want to be affiliated with 2318 00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:02,160 They don't want to be affiliated with 2319 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,630 They don't want to be affiliated with anything uh of of a terrorist nature, 2320 00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:04,640 anything uh of of a terrorist nature, 2321 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,309 anything uh of of a terrorist nature, anything. But they've gotten past the 2322 00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:06,319 anything. But they've gotten past the 2323 00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:07,990 anything. But they've gotten past the fog and they see like, hold on, this is 2324 00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:08,000 fog and they see like, hold on, this is 2325 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,390 fog and they see like, hold on, this is a grave injustice that's happening. And 2326 00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:10,400 a grave injustice that's happening. And 2327 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,589 a grave injustice that's happening. And they they want to speak up. what what 2328 00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:11,599 they they want to speak up. what what 2329 00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:14,069 they they want to speak up. what what what uh what could the average person do 2330 00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:14,079 what uh what could the average person do 2331 00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:17,030 what uh what could the average person do to to help you to help this uh this 2332 00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:17,040 to to help you to help this uh this 2333 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,230 to to help you to help this uh this case? 2334 00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:18,240 case? 2335 00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:19,589 case? >> Well, the first thing you have to 2336 00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:19,599 >> Well, the first thing you have to 2337 00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:21,990 >> Well, the first thing you have to remember that in every great religion be 2338 00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:22,000 remember that in every great religion be 2339 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,109 remember that in every great religion be it Islam, Christianity, Jew, Judaism or 2340 00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:25,119 it Islam, Christianity, Jew, Judaism or 2341 00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:28,790 it Islam, Christianity, Jew, Judaism or whatever um to save one life is to save 2342 00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:28,800 whatever um to save one life is to save 2343 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,349 whatever um to save one life is to save all of humanity. And and that's the 2344 00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:31,359 all of humanity. And and that's the 2345 00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:35,990 all of humanity. And and that's the truth. And you can't stand aside when 2346 00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:36,000 truth. And you can't stand aside when 2347 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,470 truth. And you can't stand aside when injustice is going on because injustice 2348 00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:38,480 injustice is going on because injustice 2349 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,790 injustice is going on because injustice to anyone is injustice to every 2350 00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:40,800 to anyone is injustice to every 2351 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,670 to anyone is injustice to every everyone. Um so we have to we have to 2352 00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:43,680 everyone. Um so we have to we have to 2353 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,750 everyone. Um so we have to we have to solve this. We can't just say oh it's 2354 00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:45,760 solve this. We can't just say oh it's 2355 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,150 solve this. We can't just say oh it's not my problem. Uh so there are many 2356 00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:48,160 not my problem. Uh so there are many 2357 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,069 not my problem. Uh so there are many things you can do. The most simple is 2358 00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:50,079 things you can do. The most simple is 2359 00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:53,829 things you can do. The most simple is you can write letters to Afia. She is 2360 00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:53,839 you can write letters to Afia. She is 2361 00:49:53,839 --> 00:49:56,150 you can write letters to Afia. She is deeply traumatized, but I gather up 2362 00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:56,160 deeply traumatized, but I gather up 2363 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,230 deeply traumatized, but I gather up their letters and there's an email 2364 00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:58,240 their letters and there's an email 2365 00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:01,990 their letters and there's an email address called letters4gmail.com. 2366 00:50:01,990 --> 00:50:02,000 address called letters4gmail.com. 2367 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,069 address called letters4gmail.com. That's lts 2368 00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:04,079 That's lts 2369 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:07,109 That's lts and then the number four and then afia a 2370 00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:07,119 and then the number four and then afia a 2371 00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:10,069 and then the number four and then afia a a fia agmail.com. 2372 00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:10,079 a fia agmail.com. 2373 00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:11,990 a fia agmail.com. Those will come to me. I will assemble 2374 00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:12,000 Those will come to me. I will assemble 2375 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,470 Those will come to me. I will assemble those and get them into afia and it 2376 00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:14,480 those and get them into afia and it 2377 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,870 those and get them into afia and it gives her great moral strength even 2378 00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:16,880 gives her great moral strength even 2379 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,670 gives her great moral strength even though she's suffering so much. But then 2380 00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:19,680 though she's suffering so much. But then 2381 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,589 though she's suffering so much. But then beyond that, there are people of all 2382 00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:21,599 beyond that, there are people of all 2383 00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:23,270 beyond that, there are people of all sorts. If you just happen to be a 2384 00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:23,280 sorts. If you just happen to be a 2385 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,750 sorts. If you just happen to be a microbiologist, you can offer your 2386 00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:25,760 microbiologist, you can offer your 2387 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,510 microbiologist, you can offer your support to debunk the nonsense about 2388 00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:29,520 support to debunk the nonsense about 2389 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,390 support to debunk the nonsense about this airborne rabies stuff where there 2390 00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:32,400 this airborne rabies stuff where there 2391 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,230 this airborne rabies stuff where there are other things like whether you can 2392 00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:34,240 are other things like whether you can 2393 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:35,990 are other things like whether you can shoot down satellites. Some of if you're 2394 00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:36,000 shoot down satellites. Some of if you're 2395 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,430 shoot down satellites. Some of if you're an engineer, you can help me on that. 2396 00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:37,440 an engineer, you can help me on that. 2397 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,109 an engineer, you can help me on that. I'm a scientist, I could do it, but I'm 2398 00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:39,119 I'm a scientist, I could do it, but I'm 2399 00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:42,630 I'm a scientist, I could do it, but I'm a lawyer so I can't. Um, so then you can 2400 00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:42,640 a lawyer so I can't. Um, so then you can 2401 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,390 a lawyer so I can't. Um, so then you can do other things. Uh, we need to get her 2402 00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:46,400 do other things. Uh, we need to get her 2403 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,670 do other things. Uh, we need to get her um moral support in prison. So we need 2404 00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:49,680 um moral support in prison. So we need 2405 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,390 um moral support in prison. So we need people to support us in getting Imma 2406 00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:52,400 people to support us in getting Imma 2407 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,150 people to support us in getting Imma Imam Omar Sulean in to see her so she 2408 00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:56,160 Imam Omar Sulean in to see her so she 2409 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,910 Imam Omar Sulean in to see her so she can get that moral support till we get 2410 00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:57,920 can get that moral support till we get 2411 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,150 can get that moral support till we get her out of there. We need doctors to 2412 00:51:00,150 --> 00:51:00,160 her out of there. We need doctors to 2413 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,069 her out of there. We need doctors to support us in terms of getting her 2414 00:51:02,069 --> 00:51:02,079 support us in terms of getting her 2415 00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:03,829 support us in terms of getting her treatment. They won't let me get an 2416 00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:03,839 treatment. They won't let me get an 2417 00:51:03,839 --> 00:51:06,069 treatment. They won't let me get an independent doctor into that prison 2418 00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:06,079 independent doctor into that prison 2419 00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:07,910 independent doctor into that prison which is just disgusting. Why won't they 2420 00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:07,920 which is just disgusting. Why won't they 2421 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,710 which is just disgusting. Why won't they do that? Hard to believe. Um and then 2422 00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:10,720 do that? Hard to believe. Um and then 2423 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:12,710 do that? Hard to believe. Um and then you can do other things. You can you can 2424 00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:12,720 you can do other things. You can you can 2425 00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:14,790 you can do other things. You can you can we can always look I do all this for 2426 00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:14,800 we can always look I do all this for 2427 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,870 we can always look I do all this for nothing but I run a charity and you're 2428 00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:16,880 nothing but I run a charity and you're 2429 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,470 nothing but I run a charity and you're welcome to donate to my nonprofit. Um 2430 00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:20,480 welcome to donate to my nonprofit. Um 2431 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,790 welcome to donate to my nonprofit. Um but but I'm not making people do that. 2432 00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:22,800 but but I'm not making people do that. 2433 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,069 but but I'm not making people do that. I'm going to do this regardless. Um and 2434 00:51:26,069 --> 00:51:26,079 I'm going to do this regardless. Um and 2435 00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:28,470 I'm going to do this regardless. Um and you could you can just do whatever you 2436 00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:28,480 you could you can just do whatever you 2437 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,230 you could you can just do whatever you can for your neighbors as well. You 2438 00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:30,240 can for your neighbors as well. You 2439 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:32,230 can for your neighbors as well. You don't have to only focus I'm up here. 2440 00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:32,240 don't have to only focus I'm up here. 2441 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:35,030 don't have to only focus I'm up here. Just want to focus on other people who 2442 00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:35,040 Just want to focus on other people who 2443 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,190 Just want to focus on other people who need your help. And always remember 2444 00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:37,200 need your help. And always remember 2445 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,750 need your help. And always remember this. Those of you listening into your 2446 00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:39,760 this. Those of you listening into your 2447 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,910 this. Those of you listening into your the program, you're privileged. You're 2448 00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:41,920 the program, you're privileged. You're 2449 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,670 the program, you're privileged. You're you're mainly in America. We're all 2450 00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:43,680 you're mainly in America. We're all 2451 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,390 you're mainly in America. We're all privileged. Um and there are always 2452 00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:46,400 privileged. Um and there are always 2453 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,910 privileged. Um and there are always people who are less fortunate than us. 2454 00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:49,920 people who are less fortunate than us. 2455 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,150 people who are less fortunate than us. And that means that our duty, according 2456 00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:52,160 And that means that our duty, according 2457 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,470 And that means that our duty, according to my mother and according to your holy 2458 00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:54,480 to my mother and according to your holy 2459 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,510 to my mother and according to your holy books, is to help the people who need 2460 00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:57,520 books, is to help the people who need 2461 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,109 books, is to help the people who need your help. So just get out there and do 2462 00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:59,119 your help. So just get out there and do 2463 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:00,069 your help. So just get out there and do it. 2464 00:52:00,069 --> 00:52:00,079 it. 2465 00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:01,349 it. >> God bless you. Thank you very much, 2466 00:52:01,349 --> 00:52:01,359 >> God bless you. Thank you very much, 2467 00:52:01,359 --> 00:52:02,790 >> God bless you. Thank you very much, Kyle. Thank you. 2468 00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:02,800 Kyle. Thank you. 2469 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,920 Kyle. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you.