two billion people. How does that
happen?
Think it was an accident.
Of course, it wasn't an accident.
And then you see
Of course, it wasn't an accident. And then you see Muhammad as a warrior
and then
Hulk Hogan for example,
right? Right.
You know how Hulk
right? Right. You know how Hulk Hulk, right? Let's
have a look at this.
Evangelical Christians love Israel.
Let's look at the founder
Evangelical Christians love Israel. Let's look at the founder of your
religion. He's either really a prophet
or he's not a prophet. I don't He didn't
do any miracles.
What has attracted this product to grow
the way that it that it has?
You're
like
give you a glimpse of the first chapter.
Alhamdulillah.
Greetings of peace.
Alhamdulillah. Greetings of peace. Welcome. Welcome
everybody. My next guest have an
exciting episode for
everybody. My next guest have an exciting episode for you. Dr. Hassan
holds a PhD in Islamic studies,
bachelor's degree in telecommunications
engineering from New York. He's
bachelor's degree in telecommunications engineering from New York. He's also has
a master's degree in Islamic studies
with a certificate in Islamic
inheritance.
As I said, a PhD from the American Open
University. He's the author of five
books. One of them right here guided by
the stars
gifted to gifted it to me forwarded by
one of my
gifted to gifted it to me forwarded by one of my first teacher Dr. Bal
Phillips. Alhamdulillah. I'm looking
forward to reading his book. And he's in
the Dean
forward to reading his book. And he's in the Dean Show studio right next to me.
Salamkum.
How are you doing?
Wonderful. Wonderful.
It's good to have you on the program.
It's very good to be here. Thank you for
uh
It's very good to be here. Thank you for uh allowing me to participate in one of
these. I'm excited.
We got
these. I'm excited. We got a lot to talk about. I we're
going to get into this uh PBD uh
reaction.
You heard of the PBD podcast?
Yes, I heard of it. It's been trending.
Yeah, I
Yes, I heard of it. It's been trending. Yeah, I really uh didn't want to just
keep uh we've reacted to some of their
blunders.
keep uh we've reacted to some of their blunders. Seems like uh Patrick Ben
David, he's got an obsession with Islam,
but
David, he's got an obsession with Islam, but some of the things I want to talk
about before that is, have you heard of
this
about before that is, have you heard of this recent development?
Uber is giving women the option to
choose a woman driver. And the reaction
to this has been hilarious.
Uber's rolling out a new feature today
that lets women request a woman
Uber's rolling out a new feature today that lets women request a woman driver
and vice versa. It's the latest move
from Uber to address safety on its
platform.
from Uber to address safety on its platform. The feature will start rolling
out next month in San Francisco, LA,
Detroit. The requests are not
guaranteed, but the new tool, the
company says, certainly increases the
chances that women will be paired
together. Uber is launching a new
feature in the US that allows women
riders
feature in the US that allows women riders and drivers to choose to only be
paired with other women and
riders and drivers to choose to only be paired with other women and same thing
for men.
So you see this is almost like an
Islamic concept that's
So you see this is almost like an Islamic concept that's happening. Hope
the headlines soon don't read. Have they
been have the Muslims infiltrated Uber?
Subhan Allah. That's very true. But you
know um Islam is always ahead of its
time
know um Islam is always ahead of its time in everything that it does. And it
really just takes time for the greater
community to see the benefit in
really just takes time for the greater community to see the benefit in the
Islamic teachings and values. And that's
why the work that you're doing here on
the Dean Show is very important
why the work that you're doing here on the Dean Show is very important because
if we don't show the world uh the true
teachings, morals,
if we don't show the world uh the true teachings, morals, principles of Islam,
then they're going to just get a
corrupted version of it, a version that
is appears
corrupted version of it, a version that is appears to be extremely extreme. And
even with this individual Patrick, um
you
even with this individual Patrick, um you know, I'm not shocked at his bias
because his family is from Iran and uh
the brand of Islam
because his family is from Iran and uh the brand of Islam that they teach over
there is not one that is necessarily
uh in harmony with the pure teachings of
al-Islam. So he's only
uh in harmony with the pure teachings of al-Islam. So he's only experienced a
corrupt interpretation of the text such
his bias
corrupt interpretation of the text such his bias is corrupted. Um I don't know
how many um Sunni Muslims he's ever
interacted with
how many um Sunni Muslims he's ever interacted with in his life seeing that
his family is from Iran even though um
they are not
his family is from Iran even though um they are not Muslims. I believe they're
like Armenians or something.
Yeah. Syrian
Armenian. Armanian. Yeah.
He got a chance to interact with myself.
We've met
and I gave him the invitation to call me
any time. We had good some good
discussions.
any time. We had good some good discussions. we've sat and discussed
one-on-one
and um I'm just
one-on-one and um I'm just really taken back that
many of these people they're intelligent
in many different fields
many of these people they're intelligent in many different fields but when it
comes to Islam it's they're um
they're
comes to Islam it's they're um they're in the negative meaning I mean
these basic things
correct
they're getting wrong
correct
they're getting wrong correct but um we shouldn't believe that
they're getting it wrong uh because of
lack of
they're getting it wrong uh because of lack of understanding it's you know um
uh certain things that They
lack of understanding it's you know um uh certain things that They don't want
to lose which is causing them to get it
wrong. Right? So um you know even
to lose which is causing them to get it wrong. Right? So um you know even with
the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wasallam you know calling the people
toahillah
wasallam you know calling the people toahillah we're taught that he called
the people to this one statement there
is one god but Allah
the people to this one statement there is one god but Allah and yet responded
his people responded in a way that they
wanted to kill him for
his people responded in a way that they wanted to kill him for it. And when you
ask the question why, he's just saying
there's one God. But
ask the question why, he's just saying there's one God. But that statement
means that their whole system has to
come apart because it's
means that their whole system has to come apart because it's a system based
on oppression, classism, racism,
discrimination. And so the
on oppression, classism, racism, discrimination. And so the belief in one
God and everyone being brothers and
sisters united in faith goes
God and everyone being brothers and sisters united in faith goes against
their entire economic system, their
entire social system, decades upon
decades of what they have built to raise
themselves to this level. So you know
individuals
themselves to this level. So you know individuals like him and others you know
I assume that you know
individuals like him and others you know I assume that you know they are have a
bias towards Islam intentionally you
know
bias towards Islam intentionally you know they don't want to understand
you know because as you said you know he
seems to be a very clever individual
you know because as you said you know he seems to be a very clever individual and
he's you know he's uh well spoken but
then a lot of the uh conversations
he's you know he's uh well spoken but then a lot of the uh conversations that
he holds on his podcast are very base
and very low and you know he's probably
just trying to feed a certain segment of
his followership. I don't believe that
these people
his followership. I don't believe that these people really um hold these
feelings in general. It's just their
bias.
You mentioned some things
bias. You mentioned some things that would
have to go. I mean things that are
destroying society. We didn't mention
you got gambling,
correct?
Pornography,
correct?
Interest exploitation, exploitation of
people now with
Interest exploitation, exploitation of people now with interest,
alcohol, all of these things uh are
coming
alcohol, all of these things uh are coming uh to to haunt us, you know. And
subhan Allah, when we look at the
history,
subhan Allah, when we look at the history, American history, we know that
there was a time where the country
enacted prohibition where they were
like, "Look,
enacted prohibition where they were like, "Look, alcohol is already deemed
to be destructive. We're just going to
get rid of it." And they couldn't do it.
It wasn't because it was a bad idea. It
was because they just didn't have the
will to see
was because they just didn't have the will to see it through and all of the
crime that ended up following the
prohibition.
crime that ended up following the prohibition. I remember in college one
of my professors he stated that if
alcohol were to be introduced into
society today and that was in what 2017.
He said after
society today and that was in what 2017. He said after we know what happens to a
person that is intoxicated, it would
never pass the FDA for approval.
If we knew that drinking alcohol causes
a person to commit bad decisions or
If we knew that drinking alcohol causes a person to commit bad decisions or to
lose their intellect or to faint or to
pass out or it causes cancer when you
drink it prolonged,
pass out or it causes cancer when you drink it prolonged, it would never pass
the FDA. So they know that alcoholism
and
the FDA. So they know that alcoholism and prostitution and gambling are vices
of the society but it's very lucrative
business
of the society but it's very lucrative business and people when it comes to
their wealth only a few are willing to
you know trade
their wealth only a few are willing to you know trade their wealth for um a
better quality of life in this world as
well as
better quality of life in this world as well as preserving themselves in the
hereafter.
I started off with Uber because
everybody now knows Uber, right?
I started off with Uber because everybody now knows Uber, right? You've
taken Uber before?
Yes.
Okay. But this is very interesting this
concept now that they're implementing.
You
concept now that they're implementing. You think okay this would be something
as soon as you say if it was coming from
an Islamic perspective if
as soon as you say if it was coming from an Islamic perspective if you started to
say okay that a man can't be alone with
a woman and you know the famous hadith
where proph
a woman and you know the famous hadith where proph Muhammad said that the devil
is the third because we know what
happens now there have
is the third because we know what happens now there have for them to have
gotten to that there must have been some
things happening in the back ends
correct
a lot of complaints
correct
so many things now that they made they
had to make a decision that
so many things now that they made they had to make a decision that hold on we
got to protect the women
and other things that are happening so
now they're implementing ing this.
and other things that are happening so now they're implementing ing this. It's
a good thing. It's an Islam. This is a
This is like an Islamic
value.
It is. It is. It is. It's Islamic value.
It's Islamic principles. And um you
know, it's just
It's Islamic principles. And um you know, it's just principles of people of
virtue. Yeah.
So um it does not surprise me that
they're finally getting
So um it does not surprise me that they're finally getting line. And I tell
you, we're going to be moving towards a
society where they're going to go back
to dividing
society where they're going to go back to dividing the genders in the classroom
settings. We know that. It used to be.
Yeah.
Yeah. It used to be that
Yeah. Yeah. It used to be that way.
I went to a private school.
Exactly. It used to be that way. And uh
look at the results of it.
Exactly. It used to be that way. And uh look at the results of it. You know um
children were more productive. There
wasn't such an emphasis on the way a
person looks
wasn't such an emphasis on the way a person looks you know when the genders
are mixing and with the hormones things
happen. You know there was no one
are mixing and with the hormones things happen. You know there was no one that
was pregnant in class at that day but
now we've mixed the genders
was pregnant in class at that day but now we've mixed the genders and we have
created so much problems and watch
they're going to go back to these things
and even in these
they're going to go back to these things and even in these traditional rural u
Christian schools and even in Jewish
schools here
Christian schools and even in Jewish schools here in America those genders
are separated. They're not learning in
the same space, but it's only in the
public space that they allow this to
continue. And that's because it puts the
average people
continue. And that's because it puts the average people in a disadvantage.
This topic, everything we talk about
average people in a disadvantage. This topic, everything we talk about is
so important because of this recent
news. I don't know if you heard, and I
and I did this experiment uh with some
of um some of the younger generation.
and I did this experiment uh with some of um some of the younger generation. I
asked them, "Have you heard of Aussie
Osborne?"
Most people have no idea who he is.
You've heard
Most people have no idea who he is. You've heard I've heard of him. You've
heard of him, right? never listen to any
of this music huge back in the day in
Jahalia
of this music huge back in the day in Jahalia many people
they'll mention okay Aussie Osborne
people know that generation he's
they'll mention okay Aussie Osborne people know that generation he's a big
star
Hulk Hogan for example
right right
you know how right
right right you know how right of course grew up on
him
many are forgetting him already like the
Aussie Osborne one by one we're seeing
these icons we're seeing people who now
people idolize the most famous people
all that money little by little like the
Elbert Elvis Presley's of their time
forgotten most people
Elbert Elvis Presley's of their time forgotten most people now who's Elvis
Presley ask younger generation. These
people are about to be forgotten and
it's
people are about to be forgotten and it's a reminder for us
that at the end
all of this is
that at the end all of this is going to
is going to pass away. You know, subhan
Allah, these people have reached heights
of fame
Allah, these people have reached heights of fame and um with all of this fame and
all of this attention,
of fame and um with all of this fame and all of this attention, we see another
Islamic concept which comes to the
forefront. You
Islamic concept which comes to the forefront. You know when we say you know
Allah abbar right like Allah is great
God is great or when
Allah abbar right like Allah is great God is great or when we say
alhamdulillah all praise belongs to
Allah our scholars they tell us that
alhamdulillah all praise belongs to Allah our scholars they tell us that uh
praise um is not for human beings that
when human beings receive
praise um is not for human beings that when human beings receive too much
praise it makes them become very
destructive and look at Azie Osborne and
look at Hulk
destructive and look at Azie Osborne and look at Hulk Hogan look at their lives
it's drugs it's abuse it's women abuse
it's steroid
it's drugs it's abuse it's women abuse it's steroid abuse it's multiple
marriages I mean their family life is
atrocious
marriages I mean their family life is atrocious you know so wealth and praise
it doesn't do the human psyche well and
this
it doesn't do the human psyche well and this is why as Muslims you know we say
all praise belongs to who is Allah Allah
doesn't have an ego we
all praise belongs to who is Allah Allah doesn't have an ego we praise him we
praise him and he's worthy and deserving
of being praised but these individuals
it shows that
of being praised but these individuals it shows that you know all of the wealth
that they possess and all of the praise
and love and admiration that we think we
would
and love and admiration that we think we would like it might destroy us as it has
destroyed them physically uh
would like it might destroy us as it has destroyed them physically uh financially
in many cases as well as um you know the
legacy that they leave behind.
in many cases as well as um you know the legacy that they leave behind. Yes, we
have some clips and highlights of, you
know, uh moments that are memorable, but
overall uh their lives are not worth uh
imitating and uh we wouldn't want
overall uh their lives are not worth uh imitating and uh we wouldn't want to
switch even a moment with them. Not one
moment. for the ignorant people out
there.
moment. for the ignorant people out there. I was reading a tweet just the
other day and I had to um respond to it
and it just blows the mind when people
say such asinine things
and it just blows the mind when people say such asinine things as this
individual and and this was someone who
you look at
individual and and this was someone who you look at their profile and you say
wow this person is somebody of some kind
of stature but he said
wow this person is somebody of some kind of stature but he said that Allah
because you mentioned Allah Allah is not
the God
of Isaac, Jacob, Abraham. When you hear
something like that,
of Isaac, Jacob, Abraham. When you hear something like that, what's your
immediate reaction?
The person who says this, where are they
from? What's their background?
That he's a Christian.
He's a Christian.
That he's a Christian. He's a Christian. Well, you know, I
would tell him uh that as a Christian,
I'm sure he believes
would tell him uh that as a Christian, I'm sure he believes the God that he's
worshiped is the God of Israel. And I
would follow that up by saying that the
one of the greatest rabbis in Judaism,
Mymonades, he stated very clearly and
his family is from Spain, but he was
raised in educated in Morocco. They call
him uh
raised in educated in Morocco. They call him uh the great Moses Mymones. He
states that the God of Israel is
him uh the great Moses Mymones. He states that the God of Israel is the
same very God that the Muslims worship.
That it is the one God. And he also
states that the
That it is the one God. And he also states that the God of Christianity is
idolatism. And that it is not the same
God that the Jews
idolatism. And that it is not the same God that the Jews they worship because
of idolatry attributing divinity to
quote unquote the son
of idolatry attributing divinity to quote unquote the son of God, which we
believe to be the prophet Isa, the
prophet Jesus Christ. So if he were
believe to be the prophet Isa, the prophet Jesus Christ. So if he were to
just have a conversation with his Jewish
brethren on the concept of God, he would
be rudely awakened
brethren on the concept of God, he would be rudely awakened to find out that Jews
believe Muslims worship the same God as
them and
believe Muslims worship the same God as them and believe that the God that he
worships, the Trinity is a form of
idolatry. I think you would be shocked.
And I think many Christians don't
realize that in Judaism it
And I think many Christians don't realize that in Judaism it is permitted
for a Jew, if they have no place to
worship, they can worship inside of a
masid. This
worship, they can worship inside of a masid. This is not like one random
rabbi. This is codified within their
religious teachings.
rabbi. This is codified within their religious teachings. But a Jew would
never be able to pray inside of a church
because a church is seen as
never be able to pray inside of a church because a church is seen as a house of
idolatry.
Right? So a lot of Christians um they
don't really
Right? So a lot of Christians um they don't really um understand where their
religious beliefs