1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,870 Welcome to the Dean show. 2 00:00:00,870 --> 00:00:00,880 Welcome to the Dean show. 3 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,470 Welcome to the Dean show. >> How much this country has suffered and 4 00:00:02,470 --> 00:00:02,480 >> How much this country has suffered and 5 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:08,505 >> How much this country has suffered and to see this happiness 6 00:00:08,505 --> 00:00:08,515 7 00:00:08,515 --> 00:00:10,470 [music] 8 00:00:10,470 --> 00:00:10,480 [music] 9 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:23,349 [music] [chanting] 10 00:00:23,349 --> 00:00:23,359 11 00:00:23,359 --> 00:00:38,869 Oh my god. 12 00:00:38,869 --> 00:00:38,879 13 00:00:38,879 --> 00:00:40,630 Makes me very emotional. gives me 14 00:00:40,630 --> 00:00:40,640 Makes me very emotional. gives me 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,549 Makes me very emotional. gives me goosebumps because my father that's my 16 00:00:42,549 --> 00:00:42,559 goosebumps because my father that's my 17 00:00:42,559 --> 00:00:46,549 goosebumps because my father that's my father's roots and just to see 70,000 18 00:00:46,549 --> 00:00:46,559 father's roots and just to see 70,000 19 00:00:46,559 --> 00:00:49,910 father's roots and just to see 70,000 singing probably the Bosnian fans won 20 00:00:49,910 --> 00:00:49,920 singing probably the Bosnian fans won 21 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:56,069 singing probably the Bosnian fans won already the World Cup. 22 00:00:56,069 --> 00:00:56,079 23 00:00:56,079 --> 00:00:59,270 >> My next guest Harun Mhmedovich is a 24 00:00:59,270 --> 00:00:59,280 >> My next guest Harun Mhmedovich is a 25 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,229 >> My next guest Harun Mhmedovich is a Bosnian film maker, cinematographer, 26 00:01:02,229 --> 00:01:02,239 Bosnian film maker, cinematographer, 27 00:01:02,239 --> 00:01:04,710 Bosnian film maker, cinematographer, producer and writer. He's also a 28 00:01:04,710 --> 00:01:04,720 producer and writer. He's also a 29 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,190 producer and writer. He's also a survivor of the siege of SVO, the 30 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:07,200 survivor of the siege of SVO, the 31 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,910 survivor of the siege of SVO, the longest siege of a capital city in 32 00:01:09,910 --> 00:01:09,920 longest siege of a capital city in 33 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,670 longest siege of a capital city in modern history during the Bosian war. 34 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:13,680 modern history during the Bosian war. 35 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,149 modern history during the Bosian war. Through his work, he's documented 36 00:01:16,149 --> 00:01:16,159 Through his work, he's documented 37 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:20,469 Through his work, he's documented history, memory, and the human cost of 38 00:01:20,469 --> 00:01:20,479 history, memory, and the human cost of 39 00:01:20,479 --> 00:01:23,990 history, memory, and the human cost of war. Harun, 40 00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:24,000 war. Harun, 41 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,990 war. Harun, how are you? 42 00:01:25,990 --> 00:01:26,000 how are you? 43 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,390 how are you? >> I'm good. Uh, thanks for having me. 44 00:01:28,390 --> 00:01:28,400 >> I'm good. Uh, thanks for having me. 45 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,469 >> I'm good. Uh, thanks for having me. >> Thank you for accepting.Amikum. I'm 46 00:01:30,469 --> 00:01:30,479 >> Thank you for accepting.Amikum. I'm 47 00:01:30,479 --> 00:01:32,870 >> Thank you for accepting.Amikum. I'm going to go ahead and um I want to first 48 00:01:32,870 --> 00:01:32,880 going to go ahead and um I want to first 49 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,429 going to go ahead and um I want to first start off with with this um this video 50 00:01:37,429 --> 00:01:37,439 start off with with this um this video 51 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:40,310 start off with with this um this video here and 52 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:40,320 here and 53 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:43,749 here and I want to ask you what is it that caught 54 00:01:43,749 --> 00:01:43,759 I want to ask you what is it that caught 55 00:01:43,759 --> 00:01:46,550 I want to ask you what is it that caught the attention of the football fans 56 00:01:46,550 --> 00:01:46,560 the attention of the football fans 57 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,469 the attention of the football fans around the world. We recently saw this 58 00:01:48,469 --> 00:01:48,479 around the world. We recently saw this 59 00:01:48,479 --> 00:01:50,149 around the world. We recently saw this Zlatan 60 00:01:50,149 --> 00:01:50,159 Zlatan 61 00:01:50,159 --> 00:01:52,230 Zlatan Ibrahimovic get really emotional while 62 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:52,240 Ibrahimovic get really emotional while 63 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,389 Ibrahimovic get really emotional while listening to uh this Bosnian fan 64 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:54,399 listening to uh this Bosnian fan 65 00:01:54,399 --> 00:01:56,870 listening to uh this Bosnian fan singing. And for those that might not 66 00:01:56,870 --> 00:01:56,880 singing. And for those that might not 67 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,990 singing. And for those that might not know the background, we'll get into it, 68 00:01:57,990 --> 00:01:58,000 know the background, we'll get into it, 69 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,069 know the background, we'll get into it, but I want to go ahead and play this and 70 00:02:00,069 --> 00:02:00,079 but I want to go ahead and play this and 71 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:01,429 but I want to go ahead and play this and then go from there. 72 00:02:01,429 --> 00:02:01,439 then go from there. 73 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:03,590 then go from there. >> That's all about what football is all 74 00:02:03,590 --> 00:02:03,600 >> That's all about what football is all 75 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,590 >> That's all about what football is all about. Bringing people together and 76 00:02:05,590 --> 00:02:05,600 about. Bringing people together and 77 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,749 about. Bringing people together and especially for Bosnia, how much this 78 00:02:07,749 --> 00:02:07,759 especially for Bosnia, how much this 79 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:09,589 especially for Bosnia, how much this country has suffered and to see this 80 00:02:09,589 --> 00:02:09,599 country has suffered and to see this 81 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:11,190 country has suffered and to see this happiness 82 00:02:11,190 --> 00:02:11,200 happiness 83 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,030 happiness makes me very emotional. gives me 84 00:02:13,030 --> 00:02:13,040 makes me very emotional. gives me 85 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,949 makes me very emotional. gives me goosebumps because my father that's my 86 00:02:14,949 --> 00:02:14,959 goosebumps because my father that's my 87 00:02:14,959 --> 00:02:18,949 goosebumps because my father that's my father's roots and uh just to see 70,000 88 00:02:18,949 --> 00:02:18,959 father's roots and uh just to see 70,000 89 00:02:18,959 --> 00:02:22,229 father's roots and uh just to see 70,000 singing probably the Bosnian fans won 90 00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:22,239 singing probably the Bosnian fans won 91 00:02:22,239 --> 00:02:25,110 singing probably the Bosnian fans won already the World Cup and uh it makes me 92 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:25,120 already the World Cup and uh it makes me 93 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,550 already the World Cup and uh it makes me happy very proud over them and uh and 94 00:02:28,550 --> 00:02:28,560 happy very proud over them and uh and 95 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,790 happy very proud over them and uh and see them also advance from the group 96 00:02:30,790 --> 00:02:30,800 see them also advance from the group 97 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,509 see them also advance from the group stage and but the special moment is when 98 00:02:33,509 --> 00:02:33,519 stage and but the special moment is when 99 00:02:33,519 --> 00:02:36,390 stage and but the special moment is when the fans are singing this is 100 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:36,400 the fans are singing this is 101 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,229 the fans are singing this is makes me emotional I cannot even express 102 00:02:38,229 --> 00:02:38,239 makes me emotional I cannot even express 103 00:02:38,239 --> 00:02:41,509 makes me emotional I cannot even express myself good now but very very emotional 104 00:02:41,509 --> 00:02:41,519 myself good now but very very emotional 105 00:02:41,519 --> 00:02:43,910 myself good now but very very emotional moment And uh I'm just happy. I'm just 106 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:43,920 moment And uh I'm just happy. I'm just 107 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:44,229 moment And uh I'm just happy. I'm just happy. 108 00:02:44,229 --> 00:02:44,239 happy. 109 00:02:44,239 --> 00:02:45,509 happy. >> Give us some background to this, what 110 00:02:45,509 --> 00:02:45,519 >> Give us some background to this, what 111 00:02:45,519 --> 00:02:46,869 >> Give us some background to this, what he's actually talking about for soccer 112 00:02:46,869 --> 00:02:46,879 he's actually talking about for soccer 113 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:48,309 he's actually talking about for soccer fans. They're hearing this. They're fans 114 00:02:48,309 --> 00:02:48,319 fans. They're hearing this. They're fans 115 00:02:48,319 --> 00:02:49,910 fans. They're hearing this. They're fans of his. They don't know much about what 116 00:02:49,910 --> 00:02:49,920 of his. They don't know much about what 117 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:51,430 of his. They don't know much about what happened in Bosnia, but it got a lot of 118 00:02:51,430 --> 00:02:51,440 happened in Bosnia, but it got a lot of 119 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,589 happened in Bosnia, but it got a lot of people emotional, him included. If you 120 00:02:53,589 --> 00:02:53,599 people emotional, him included. If you 121 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:54,710 people emotional, him included. If you can give us some of the background, 122 00:02:54,710 --> 00:02:54,720 can give us some of the background, 123 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,229 can give us some of the background, please. 124 00:02:56,229 --> 00:02:56,239 please. 125 00:02:56,239 --> 00:02:59,030 please. >> So, basically, in the four games that 126 00:02:59,030 --> 00:02:59,040 >> So, basically, in the four games that 127 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,110 >> So, basically, in the four games that were played in a World Cup in United 128 00:03:01,110 --> 00:03:01,120 were played in a World Cup in United 129 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,070 were played in a World Cup in United States, uh it just so happened that US 130 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:04,080 States, uh it just so happened that US 131 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,990 States, uh it just so happened that US is located where like the largest 132 00:03:05,990 --> 00:03:06,000 is located where like the largest 133 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,550 is located where like the largest Bosnian diaspora is outside of Bosnia 134 00:03:08,550 --> 00:03:08,560 Bosnian diaspora is outside of Bosnia 135 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,030 Bosnian diaspora is outside of Bosnia pretty much, which is in United States. 136 00:03:11,030 --> 00:03:11,040 pretty much, which is in United States. 137 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,190 pretty much, which is in United States. So they packed all the stadiums and they 138 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:13,200 So they packed all the stadiums and they 139 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,750 So they packed all the stadiums and they also came from Europe to be in in these 140 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:15,760 also came from Europe to be in in these 141 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,070 also came from Europe to be in in these games. And one thing that people noticed 142 00:03:18,070 --> 00:03:18,080 games. And one thing that people noticed 143 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,470 games. And one thing that people noticed when they showed up is they obviously 144 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:20,480 when they showed up is they obviously 145 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,350 when they showed up is they obviously did the very pro Palestine marches prior 146 00:03:23,350 --> 00:03:23,360 did the very pro Palestine marches prior 147 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:36,070 did the very pro Palestine marches prior to the games. 148 00:03:36,070 --> 00:03:36,080 149 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,509 >> Which kind of stuck out to a lot of 150 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:37,519 >> Which kind of stuck out to a lot of 151 00:03:37,519 --> 00:03:39,830 >> Which kind of stuck out to a lot of people. I saw a lot of videos about 152 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:39,840 people. I saw a lot of videos about 153 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,750 people. I saw a lot of videos about that. But separately from that, once 154 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:41,760 that. But separately from that, once 155 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,550 that. But separately from that, once they were in the games, they sang a 156 00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:44,560 they were in the games, they sang a 157 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,949 they were in the games, they sang a particular song in every one of these 158 00:03:46,949 --> 00:03:46,959 particular song in every one of these 159 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:48,789 particular song in every one of these games and actually multiple times 160 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:48,799 games and actually multiple times 161 00:03:48,799 --> 00:03:51,830 games and actually multiple times depending on which game it was. And all 162 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:51,840 depending on which game it was. And all 163 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,229 depending on which game it was. And all of them were singing in a chorus. So he 164 00:03:54,229 --> 00:03:54,239 of them were singing in a chorus. So he 165 00:03:54,239 --> 00:03:56,470 of them were singing in a chorus. So he was really t but he was because this 166 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:56,480 was really t but he was because this 167 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,830 was really t but he was because this song is a reference uh to a halib bash 168 00:03:59,830 --> 00:03:59,840 song is a reference uh to a halib bash 169 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,229 song is a reference uh to a halib bash song back from 91 right at the beginning 170 00:04:02,229 --> 00:04:02,239 song back from 91 right at the beginning 171 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:04,070 song back from 91 right at the beginning of the war like right prior to war 172 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:04,080 of the war like right prior to war 173 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,630 of the war like right prior to war beginning about the liies and lily 174 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:06,640 beginning about the liies and lily 175 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,190 beginning about the liies and lily became the symbol of the multithnic 176 00:04:09,190 --> 00:04:09,200 became the symbol of the multithnic 177 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,910 became the symbol of the multithnic Bosnia meaning the sort of the opponents 178 00:04:11,910 --> 00:04:11,920 Bosnia meaning the sort of the opponents 179 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,390 Bosnia meaning the sort of the opponents of the greater Serbia ethnostate which 180 00:04:14,390 --> 00:04:14,400 of the greater Serbia ethnostate which 181 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,830 of the greater Serbia ethnostate which was what the was all about really in in 182 00:04:17,830 --> 00:04:17,840 was what the was all about really in in 183 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:21,189 was what the was all about really in in Bosnia between 1992 and 1995. It was an 184 00:04:21,189 --> 00:04:21,199 Bosnia between 1992 and 1995. It was an 185 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:23,990 Bosnia between 1992 and 1995. It was an attempt to create an ethnostate by the 186 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:24,000 attempt to create an ethnostate by the 187 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,030 attempt to create an ethnostate by the Serb extremists and everybody, not just 188 00:04:27,030 --> 00:04:27,040 Serb extremists and everybody, not just 189 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,350 Serb extremists and everybody, not just the Bosnjaks, but everybody who was 190 00:04:29,350 --> 00:04:29,360 the Bosnjaks, but everybody who was 191 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,390 the Bosnjaks, but everybody who was opposed to this idea of an ethnostate 192 00:04:32,390 --> 00:04:32,400 opposed to this idea of an ethnostate 193 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,390 opposed to this idea of an ethnostate was fighting in a Bosnian army or was in 194 00:04:34,390 --> 00:04:34,400 was fighting in a Bosnian army or was in 195 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,710 was fighting in a Bosnian army or was in some way helping uh the cause of the 196 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:36,720 some way helping uh the cause of the 197 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,230 some way helping uh the cause of the Bosnians. 198 00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:38,240 Bosnians. 199 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,870 Bosnians. And that song has become ever since then 200 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:40,880 And that song has become ever since then 201 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,909 And that song has become ever since then really a kind of a rallying song for a 202 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:43,919 really a kind of a rallying song for a 203 00:04:43,919 --> 00:04:45,590 really a kind of a rallying song for a lot of the supporters of Bosnia, for 204 00:04:45,590 --> 00:04:45,600 lot of the supporters of Bosnia, for 205 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,830 lot of the supporters of Bosnia, for survivors of the and so on. It's not 206 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:47,840 survivors of the and so on. It's not 207 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:50,230 survivors of the and so on. It's not really a political song. It's a love 208 00:04:50,230 --> 00:04:50,240 really a political song. It's a love 209 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,350 really a political song. It's a love song, but it has this reference to the 210 00:04:53,350 --> 00:04:53,360 song, but it has this reference to the 211 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,230 song, but it has this reference to the liies. And liies became a symbol of the 212 00:04:56,230 --> 00:04:56,240 liies. And liies became a symbol of the 213 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,390 liies. And liies became a symbol of the multi-thnic state. And it's on the first 214 00:04:58,390 --> 00:04:58,400 multi-thnic state. And it's on the first 215 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,310 multi-thnic state. And it's on the first Bosnian flag, which some people may have 216 00:05:00,310 --> 00:05:00,320 Bosnian flag, which some people may have 217 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,830 Bosnian flag, which some people may have noticed at the games that people are 218 00:05:01,830 --> 00:05:01,840 noticed at the games that people are 219 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:03,670 noticed at the games that people are carrying two flags. They're carrying the 220 00:05:03,670 --> 00:05:03,680 carrying two flags. They're carrying the 221 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,150 carrying two flags. They're carrying the original flag under which the country 222 00:05:06,150 --> 00:05:06,160 original flag under which the country 223 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,390 original flag under which the country was recognized as an independent country 224 00:05:08,390 --> 00:05:08,400 was recognized as an independent country 225 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,070 was recognized as an independent country in 1992. and it has some liies on it 226 00:05:12,070 --> 00:05:12,080 in 1992. and it has some liies on it 227 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,830 in 1992. and it has some liies on it which is a reference to the Bosnian 228 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:13,840 which is a reference to the Bosnian 229 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:15,590 which is a reference to the Bosnian kingdom 230 00:05:15,590 --> 00:05:15,600 kingdom 231 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,990 kingdom uh and a kind of a rallying flag for a 232 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:18,000 uh and a kind of a rallying flag for a 233 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,830 uh and a kind of a rallying flag for a lot of Bosnjaks. 234 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:19,840 lot of Bosnjaks. 235 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:22,629 lot of Bosnjaks. And then the second flag is the sort of 236 00:05:22,629 --> 00:05:22,639 And then the second flag is the sort of 237 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:25,510 And then the second flag is the sort of internationally mandated flag post 238 00:05:25,510 --> 00:05:25,520 internationally mandated flag post 239 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,990 internationally mandated flag post agreement. And so he was talking really 240 00:05:27,990 --> 00:05:28,000 agreement. And so he was talking really 241 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,790 agreement. And so he was talking really about the song and hearing so many fans 242 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:30,800 about the song and hearing so many fans 243 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,870 about the song and hearing so many fans echoing singing at the same time. And 244 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:32,880 echoing singing at the same time. And 245 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,070 echoing singing at the same time. And obviously his father is from Bina in 246 00:05:36,070 --> 00:05:36,080 obviously his father is from Bina in 247 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,390 obviously his father is from Bina in Bosnia and he was very emotionally taken 248 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:38,400 Bosnia and he was very emotionally taken 249 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,990 Bosnia and he was very emotionally taken hearing that song and hearing that many 250 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:40,000 hearing that song and hearing that many 251 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,510 hearing that song and hearing that many fans and he knows that it's more than a 252 00:05:41,510 --> 00:05:41,520 fans and he knows that it's more than a 253 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,110 fans and he knows that it's more than a soccer game. It doesn't they didn't come 254 00:05:43,110 --> 00:05:43,120 soccer game. It doesn't they didn't come 255 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,950 soccer game. It doesn't they didn't come there because they thought Bosnia was 256 00:05:44,950 --> 00:05:44,960 there because they thought Bosnia was 257 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,950 there because they thought Bosnia was going to win the cup. They came there 258 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:46,960 going to win the cup. They came there 259 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,710 going to win the cup. They came there because it meant so much that a country 260 00:05:48,710 --> 00:05:48,720 because it meant so much that a country 261 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,950 because it meant so much that a country was in the World Cup given that it was 262 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:50,960 was in the World Cup given that it was 263 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,749 was in the World Cup given that it was meant not to even exist. 264 00:05:53,749 --> 00:05:53,759 meant not to even exist. 265 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:56,710 meant not to even exist. >> Wow. Tell me, this is truly amazing. 266 00:05:56,710 --> 00:05:56,720 >> Wow. Tell me, this is truly amazing. 267 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,629 >> Wow. Tell me, this is truly amazing. Tell me, can you tell us uh about 268 00:05:58,629 --> 00:05:58,639 Tell me, can you tell us uh about 269 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:03,029 Tell me, can you tell us uh about another World Cup player, Edin 270 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:03,039 another World Cup player, Edin 271 00:06:03,039 --> 00:06:04,950 another World Cup player, Edin Joeko? Is am I pronouncing his name 272 00:06:04,950 --> 00:06:04,960 Joeko? Is am I pronouncing his name 273 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,710 Joeko? Is am I pronouncing his name right? He has an incredible story 274 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:06,720 right? He has an incredible story 275 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,309 right? He has an incredible story because he wasn't even supposed to be 276 00:06:08,309 --> 00:06:08,319 because he wasn't even supposed to be 277 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:11,430 because he wasn't even supposed to be there. He wasn't supposed to exist. 278 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:11,440 there. He wasn't supposed to exist. 279 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,390 there. He wasn't supposed to exist. >> Yeah. So Edin Jo and I share a back 280 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:14,400 >> Yeah. So Edin Jo and I share a back 281 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,629 >> Yeah. So Edin Jo and I share a back background because Edin Jo, who's a 282 00:06:16,629 --> 00:06:16,639 background because Edin Jo, who's a 283 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:18,870 background because Edin Jo, who's a little younger than me, not much by a 284 00:06:18,870 --> 00:06:18,880 little younger than me, not much by a 285 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,270 little younger than me, not much by a couple of years, he and I were in the 286 00:06:21,270 --> 00:06:21,280 couple of years, he and I were in the 287 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:23,430 couple of years, he and I were in the sie under the siege of Sieo for four 288 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:23,440 sie under the siege of Sieo for four 289 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,550 sie under the siege of Sieo for four years. 290 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:24,560 years. 291 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,189 years. And at that time obviously we were not 292 00:06:27,189 --> 00:06:27,199 And at that time obviously we were not 293 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:29,510 And at that time obviously we were not able to really play outside much. And 294 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:29,520 able to really play outside much. And 295 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,110 able to really play outside much. And then at some point when I think 296 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:31,120 then at some point when I think 297 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,189 then at some point when I think everybody in Sieo that was under siege 298 00:06:33,189 --> 00:06:33,199 everybody in Sieo that was under siege 299 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:35,749 everybody in Sieo that was under siege since uh early 1992 300 00:06:35,749 --> 00:06:35,759 since uh early 1992 301 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:37,990 since uh early 1992 at some point all of us as people living 302 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:38,000 at some point all of us as people living 303 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,629 at some point all of us as people living under that siege decided to I I guess 304 00:06:40,629 --> 00:06:40,639 under that siege decided to I I guess 305 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:42,950 under that siege decided to I I guess have their our own versions of of 306 00:06:42,950 --> 00:06:42,960 have their our own versions of of 307 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,749 have their our own versions of of resistance or protest. Obviously some 308 00:06:45,749 --> 00:06:45,759 resistance or protest. Obviously some 309 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:47,110 resistance or protest. Obviously some people were in the army and were 310 00:06:47,110 --> 00:06:47,120 people were in the army and were 311 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,790 people were in the army and were actually defending the city from uh from 312 00:06:50,790 --> 00:06:50,800 actually defending the city from uh from 313 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,029 actually defending the city from uh from basically falling. And if it had fallen, 314 00:06:53,029 --> 00:06:53,039 basically falling. And if it had fallen, 315 00:06:53,039 --> 00:06:54,870 basically falling. And if it had fallen, anybody that's studied anything about 316 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:54,880 anybody that's studied anything about 317 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,749 anybody that's studied anything about the Bosnian has seen what happened in 318 00:06:57,749 --> 00:06:57,759 the Bosnian has seen what happened in 319 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:00,230 the Bosnian has seen what happened in places where Serb units entered that 320 00:07:00,230 --> 00:07:00,240 places where Serb units entered that 321 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,309 places where Serb units entered that fell. These are brutal, brutal and war 322 00:07:04,309 --> 00:07:04,319 fell. These are brutal, brutal and war 323 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:06,790 fell. These are brutal, brutal and war crimes that happened in them. So our 324 00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:06,800 crimes that happened in them. So our 325 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,710 crimes that happened in them. So our lives were depending obviously on people 326 00:07:08,710 --> 00:07:08,720 lives were depending obviously on people 327 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,430 lives were depending obviously on people defending the city, but also we all 328 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:11,440 defending the city, but also we all 329 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,629 defending the city, but also we all found our ways to be uh to be to have a 330 00:07:14,629 --> 00:07:14,639 found our ways to be uh to be to have a 331 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:17,029 found our ways to be uh to be to have a resistance, right? And one thing you'll 332 00:07:17,029 --> 00:07:17,039 resistance, right? And one thing you'll 333 00:07:17,039 --> 00:07:18,790 resistance, right? And one thing you'll notice a lot if you look at the photos 334 00:07:18,790 --> 00:07:18,800 notice a lot if you look at the photos 335 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,550 notice a lot if you look at the photos of the siege of Sieo is you'll notice 336 00:07:20,550 --> 00:07:20,560 of the siege of Sieo is you'll notice 337 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,270 of the siege of Sieo is you'll notice how many kids are in those photos and 338 00:07:23,270 --> 00:07:23,280 how many kids are in those photos and 339 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,309 how many kids are in those photos and often the kids are playing soccer out on 340 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:26,319 often the kids are playing soccer out on 341 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:28,950 often the kids are playing soccer out on the streets of Sieo not on football 342 00:07:28,950 --> 00:07:28,960 the streets of Sieo not on football 343 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,189 the streets of Sieo not on football pitches because football pitches had 344 00:07:31,189 --> 00:07:31,199 pitches because football pitches had 345 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:33,830 pitches because football pitches had become graveyards cuz so many people 346 00:07:33,830 --> 00:07:33,840 become graveyards cuz so many people 347 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,150 become graveyards cuz so many people were dying in Sieo. There was no room 348 00:07:36,150 --> 00:07:36,160 were dying in Sieo. There was no room 349 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,710 were dying in Sieo. There was no room for graveyards anymore. So they used any 350 00:07:38,710 --> 00:07:38,720 for graveyards anymore. So they used any 351 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,070 for graveyards anymore. So they used any bit of uh things like gardens, things 352 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:42,080 bit of uh things like gardens, things 353 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,830 bit of uh things like gardens, things like parks and things like football 354 00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:43,840 like parks and things like football 355 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,430 like parks and things like football pitches in order to convert them 356 00:07:45,430 --> 00:07:45,440 pitches in order to convert them 357 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,670 pitches in order to convert them essentially to graveyards. So you'll see 358 00:07:47,670 --> 00:07:47,680 essentially to graveyards. So you'll see 359 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,909 essentially to graveyards. So you'll see a lot of kids and Ed and Jacob being one 360 00:07:49,909 --> 00:07:49,919 a lot of kids and Ed and Jacob being one 361 00:07:49,919 --> 00:07:52,870 a lot of kids and Ed and Jacob being one of them and I being one of them as many 362 00:07:52,870 --> 00:07:52,880 of them and I being one of them as many 363 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,869 of them and I being one of them as many of us were playing soccer as a form of 364 00:07:54,869 --> 00:07:54,879 of us were playing soccer as a form of 365 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:56,550 of us were playing soccer as a form of resistance in a way. We would go outside 366 00:07:56,550 --> 00:07:56,560 resistance in a way. We would go outside 367 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,670 resistance in a way. We would go outside even though we knew it was dangerous but 368 00:07:59,670 --> 00:07:59,680 even though we knew it was dangerous but 369 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,270 even though we knew it was dangerous but we did it as sort of a statement. you 370 00:08:01,270 --> 00:08:01,280 we did it as sort of a statement. you 371 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,110 we did it as sort of a statement. you can't kill. So, you can't kill a spirit. 372 00:08:03,110 --> 00:08:03,120 can't kill. So, you can't kill a spirit. 373 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,029 can't kill. So, you can't kill a spirit. And we were out on these concrete 374 00:08:05,029 --> 00:08:05,039 And we were out on these concrete 375 00:08:05,039 --> 00:08:07,270 And we were out on these concrete streets where a lot of grenades or 376 00:08:07,270 --> 00:08:07,280 streets where a lot of grenades or 377 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,830 streets where a lot of grenades or shells fell and killed a lot of people. 378 00:08:09,830 --> 00:08:09,840 shells fell and killed a lot of people. 379 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,430 shells fell and killed a lot of people. And some people unfortunately died 380 00:08:11,430 --> 00:08:11,440 And some people unfortunately died 381 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,909 And some people unfortunately died during uh these times when kids were 382 00:08:13,909 --> 00:08:13,919 during uh these times when kids were 383 00:08:13,919 --> 00:08:16,629 during uh these times when kids were outside playing. In fact, one famous 384 00:08:16,629 --> 00:08:16,639 outside playing. In fact, one famous 385 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:19,430 outside playing. In fact, one famous massacre in SVO was a shell that fell in 386 00:08:19,430 --> 00:08:19,440 massacre in SVO was a shell that fell in 387 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,189 massacre in SVO was a shell that fell in the middle of a children's game in 388 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:21,199 the middle of a children's game in 389 00:08:21,199 --> 00:08:22,869 the middle of a children's game in Dorya. 390 00:08:22,869 --> 00:08:22,879 Dorya. 391 00:08:22,879 --> 00:08:26,230 Dorya. Uh but it was for him and for me and for 392 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:26,240 Uh but it was for him and for me and for 393 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,830 Uh but it was for him and for me and for everybody else, it was a way to sort of 394 00:08:27,830 --> 00:08:27,840 everybody else, it was a way to sort of 395 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,790 everybody else, it was a way to sort of resist and to keep our sanity. and he 396 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:30,800 resist and to keep our sanity. and he 397 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,430 resist and to keep our sanity. and he had survived and he became uh I think 398 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:33,440 had survived and he became uh I think 399 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,350 had survived and he became uh I think probably one of the most underrated top 400 00:08:35,350 --> 00:08:35,360 probably one of the most underrated top 401 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,350 probably one of the most underrated top level players in Europe given that he 402 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:37,360 level players in Europe given that he 403 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,750 level players in Europe given that he had scored well over 400 goals which 404 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:39,760 had scored well over 400 goals which 405 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,829 had scored well over 400 goals which puts him in a very elite group of 406 00:08:41,829 --> 00:08:41,839 puts him in a very elite group of 407 00:08:41,839 --> 00:08:44,949 puts him in a very elite group of players and he used I guess his 408 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:44,959 players and he used I guess his 409 00:08:44,959 --> 00:08:47,430 players and he used I guess his experience of being under siege as a 410 00:08:47,430 --> 00:08:47,440 experience of being under siege as a 411 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,150 experience of being under siege as a motivating factor of having survived it 412 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:50,160 motivating factor of having survived it 413 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,630 motivating factor of having survived it but also he knew that he was playing for 414 00:08:52,630 --> 00:08:52,640 but also he knew that he was playing for 415 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,310 but also he knew that he was playing for something bigger because every time his 416 00:08:54,310 --> 00:08:54,320 something bigger because every time his 417 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,550 something bigger because every time his name is called and Bosnia is discussed 418 00:08:56,550 --> 00:08:56,560 name is called and Bosnia is discussed 419 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:58,550 name is called and Bosnia is discussed we're also talking about the that 420 00:08:58,550 --> 00:08:58,560 we're also talking about the that 421 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:00,949 we're also talking about the that happened So there's all this deeper 422 00:09:00,949 --> 00:09:00,959 happened So there's all this deeper 423 00:09:00,959 --> 00:09:02,630 happened So there's all this deeper meaning behind it all. And I do think 424 00:09:02,630 --> 00:09:02,640 meaning behind it all. And I do think 425 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,630 meaning behind it all. And I do think that was the same case with Ibrahimovic. 426 00:09:04,630 --> 00:09:04,640 that was the same case with Ibrahimovic. 427 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,230 that was the same case with Ibrahimovic. Even though he was born in uh Sweden, 428 00:09:08,230 --> 00:09:08,240 Even though he was born in uh Sweden, 429 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,990 Even though he was born in uh Sweden, uh if you notice in a lot of his 430 00:09:09,990 --> 00:09:10,000 uh if you notice in a lot of his 431 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,670 uh if you notice in a lot of his interviews, he always felt like he had 432 00:09:11,670 --> 00:09:11,680 interviews, he always felt like he had 433 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:14,150 interviews, he always felt like he had something to prove and he wanted to he 434 00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:14,160 something to prove and he wanted to he 435 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,470 something to prove and he wanted to he had this incredible confidence and and a 436 00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:16,480 had this incredible confidence and and a 437 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,110 had this incredible confidence and and a lot of that confidence is drawn from the 438 00:09:19,110 --> 00:09:19,120 lot of that confidence is drawn from the 439 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,870 lot of that confidence is drawn from the fact that we had, you know, as people 440 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:20,880 fact that we had, you know, as people 441 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,790 fact that we had, you know, as people had survived and we were meant to not to 442 00:09:22,790 --> 00:09:22,800 had survived and we were meant to not to 443 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,829 had survived and we were meant to not to be alive. Um and I think that's meant a 444 00:09:25,829 --> 00:09:25,839 be alive. Um and I think that's meant a 445 00:09:25,839 --> 00:09:27,030 be alive. Um and I think that's meant a lot for a lot of people that come from 446 00:09:27,030 --> 00:09:27,040 lot for a lot of people that come from 447 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,870 lot for a lot of people that come from that region. and Jacob just happened to 448 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:28,880 that region. and Jacob just happened to 449 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,070 that region. and Jacob just happened to be the most successful probably 450 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:30,080 be the most successful probably 451 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,070 be the most successful probably well-known name as far as sports people 452 00:09:32,070 --> 00:09:32,080 well-known name as far as sports people 453 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,829 well-known name as far as sports people from Bosnia. But you could also put 454 00:09:33,829 --> 00:09:33,839 from Bosnia. But you could also put 455 00:09:33,839 --> 00:09:35,590 from Bosnia. But you could also put Ibrahim in the same discussion because 456 00:09:35,590 --> 00:09:35,600 Ibrahim in the same discussion because 457 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,509 Ibrahim in the same discussion because even though he wasn't born in Bosnia, 458 00:09:37,509 --> 00:09:37,519 even though he wasn't born in Bosnia, 459 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:39,350 even though he wasn't born in Bosnia, his daughter is from there and he's 460 00:09:39,350 --> 00:09:39,360 his daughter is from there and he's 461 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,509 his daughter is from there and he's obviously emotionally familiarly highly 462 00:09:41,509 --> 00:09:41,519 obviously emotionally familiarly highly 463 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:43,269 obviously emotionally familiarly highly tied to Bosnia. 464 00:09:43,269 --> 00:09:43,279 tied to Bosnia. 465 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:45,430 tied to Bosnia. >> I recently had a guest on my program. 466 00:09:45,430 --> 00:09:45,440 >> I recently had a guest on my program. 467 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,190 >> I recently had a guest on my program. We're talking about Albania, what's 468 00:09:47,190 --> 00:09:47,200 We're talking about Albania, what's 469 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,350 We're talking about Albania, what's happening there, the uh protests and 470 00:09:49,350 --> 00:09:49,360 happening there, the uh protests and 471 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,590 happening there, the uh protests and also uh what's happening in Bosnia and 472 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:53,600 also uh what's happening in Bosnia and 473 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,550 also uh what's happening in Bosnia and his name was Beck and he was explaining 474 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:56,560 his name was Beck and he was explaining 475 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:57,829 his name was Beck and he was explaining that [snorts] they were and I want to 476 00:09:57,829 --> 00:09:57,839 that [snorts] they were and I want to 477 00:09:57,839 --> 00:10:01,350 that [snorts] they were and I want to get your thoughts on this. Are do you 478 00:10:01,350 --> 00:10:01,360 get your thoughts on this. Are do you 479 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,509 get your thoughts on this. Are do you believe that uh he believes that they're 480 00:10:03,509 --> 00:10:03,519 believe that uh he believes that they're 481 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:05,430 believe that uh he believes that they're getting ready to start a war in Bosnia? 482 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:05,440 getting ready to start a war in Bosnia? 483 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,910 getting ready to start a war in Bosnia? And he goes into why was it selling 484 00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:07,920 And he goes into why was it selling 485 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,550 And he goes into why was it selling weapons to Serbia including this drone 486 00:10:10,550 --> 00:10:10,560 weapons to Serbia including this drone 487 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:12,790 weapons to Serbia including this drone technology signing a recent deal of $1.6 488 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:12,800 technology signing a recent deal of $1.6 489 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,630 technology signing a recent deal of $1.6 6 billion arm deal and then you had we 490 00:10:16,630 --> 00:10:16,640 6 billion arm deal and then you had we 491 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,509 6 billion arm deal and then you had we can get into this uh video real quick 492 00:10:19,509 --> 00:10:19,519 can get into this uh video real quick 493 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:22,902 can get into this uh video real quick and then uh have you re respond to it 494 00:10:22,902 --> 00:10:22,912 and then uh have you re respond to it 495 00:10:22,912 --> 00:10:26,870 and then uh have you re respond to it [music] 496 00:10:26,870 --> 00:10:26,880 497 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,310 for for people that don't know who is 498 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:28,320 for for people that don't know who is 499 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,310 for for people that don't know who is this lady and uh what do you think about 500 00:10:30,310 --> 00:10:30,320 this lady and uh what do you think about 501 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,910 this lady and uh what do you think about his statement uh that they're getting 502 00:10:31,910 --> 00:10:31,920 his statement uh that they're getting 503 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,750 his statement uh that they're getting ready to start a war in Bosnia and with 504 00:10:33,750 --> 00:10:33,760 ready to start a war in Bosnia and with 505 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,829 ready to start a war in Bosnia and with this $ 1.6 6 billion arms deal. 506 00:10:37,829 --> 00:10:37,839 this $ 1.6 6 billion arms deal. 507 00:10:37,839 --> 00:10:39,590 this $ 1.6 6 billion arms deal. What are your thoughts? 508 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:39,600 What are your thoughts? 509 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,910 What are your thoughts? >> Well, I I've been wording given I'm 510 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:41,920 >> Well, I I've been wording given I'm 511 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,430 >> Well, I I've been wording given I'm doing working on a project that 512 00:10:43,430 --> 00:10:43,440 doing working on a project that 513 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,470 doing working on a project that documents the in Bosnia. I often get the 514 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:46,480 documents the in Bosnia. I often get the 515 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,150 documents the in Bosnia. I often get the question, how did this come about and do 516 00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:50,160 question, how did this come about and do 517 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,150 question, how did this come about and do you fear there could ever be another? 518 00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:52,160 you fear there could ever be another? 519 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,949 you fear there could ever be another? And my answer has always been I not only 520 00:10:54,949 --> 00:10:54,959 And my answer has always been I not only 521 00:10:54,959 --> 00:10:57,350 And my answer has always been I not only do I think there's going to be another I 522 00:10:57,350 --> 00:10:57,360 do I think there's going to be another I 523 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,069 do I think there's going to be another I can practically guarantee that it would 524 00:11:00,069 --> 00:11:00,079 can practically guarantee that it would 525 00:11:00,079 --> 00:11:02,069 can practically guarantee that it would would be and people often tell me why do 526 00:11:02,069 --> 00:11:02,079 would be and people often tell me why do 527 00:11:02,079 --> 00:11:04,389 would be and people often tell me why do you say that? Well, it's because the 528 00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:04,399 you say that? Well, it's because the 529 00:11:04,399 --> 00:11:06,389 you say that? Well, it's because the ideology that drove the previous 530 00:11:06,389 --> 00:11:06,399 ideology that drove the previous 531 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:10,949 ideology that drove the previous instances of whether that be in 1870s 532 00:11:10,949 --> 00:11:10,959 instances of whether that be in 1870s 533 00:11:10,959 --> 00:11:14,389 instances of whether that be in 1870s uh uh whether that be 1941 when another 534 00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:14,399 uh uh whether that be 1941 when another 535 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:17,430 uh uh whether that be 1941 when another one started or whether that be 1992 when 536 00:11:17,430 --> 00:11:17,440 one started or whether that be 1992 when 537 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,350 one started or whether that be 1992 when a whole other one started against the 538 00:11:19,350 --> 00:11:19,360 a whole other one started against the 539 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,389 a whole other one started against the Bosnjaks, it's really always been about 540 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:22,399 Bosnjaks, it's really always been about 541 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:25,030 Bosnjaks, it's really always been about this ethnostate ideology and the idea 542 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:25,040 this ethnostate ideology and the idea 543 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,509 this ethnostate ideology and the idea that Bosnjaks don't belong to being in a 544 00:11:27,509 --> 00:11:27,519 that Bosnjaks don't belong to being in a 545 00:11:27,519 --> 00:11:29,990 that Bosnjaks don't belong to being in a region even though we are as Bosnjaks 546 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:30,000 region even though we are as Bosnjaks 547 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,550 region even though we are as Bosnjaks indigenous to Bosnia. It just happens to 548 00:11:32,550 --> 00:11:32,560 indigenous to Bosnia. It just happens to 549 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:34,550 indigenous to Bosnia. It just happens to be a lot of Bosnjaks that converted to 550 00:11:34,550 --> 00:11:34,560 be a lot of Bosnjaks that converted to 551 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:38,230 be a lot of Bosnjaks that converted to Islam under the Ottoman rule and they've 552 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:38,240 Islam under the Ottoman rule and they've 553 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,630 Islam under the Ottoman rule and they've been propagandized against as people 554 00:11:40,630 --> 00:11:40,640 been propagandized against as people 555 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,230 been propagandized against as people that don't belong in the region because 556 00:11:42,230 --> 00:11:42,240 that don't belong in the region because 557 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,990 that don't belong in the region because a lot of them tend to be Muslim. Not all 558 00:11:43,990 --> 00:11:44,000 a lot of them tend to be Muslim. Not all 559 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,350 a lot of them tend to be Muslim. Not all of them, but a lot of Bosnjaks are 560 00:11:45,350 --> 00:11:45,360 of them, but a lot of Bosnjaks are 561 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,790 of them, but a lot of Bosnjaks are Muslim, a fairly large majority. 562 00:11:48,790 --> 00:11:48,800 Muslim, a fairly large majority. 563 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,910 Muslim, a fairly large majority. And uh the ideology that drove the 564 00:11:51,910 --> 00:11:51,920 And uh the ideology that drove the 565 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,230 And uh the ideology that drove the previous has not gone away. And there's 566 00:11:54,230 --> 00:11:54,240 previous has not gone away. And there's 567 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,790 previous has not gone away. And there's not a single single piece of evidence 568 00:11:56,790 --> 00:11:56,800 not a single single piece of evidence 569 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,630 not a single single piece of evidence that I've come across where there's been 570 00:11:58,630 --> 00:11:58,640 that I've come across where there's been 571 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,069 that I've come across where there's been any kind of meaningful reconciliation 572 00:12:02,069 --> 00:12:02,079 any kind of meaningful reconciliation 573 00:12:02,079 --> 00:12:05,110 any kind of meaningful reconciliation and reintegration after the last meaning 574 00:12:05,110 --> 00:12:05,120 and reintegration after the last meaning 575 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,990 and reintegration after the last meaning that 99% of the criminals are still 576 00:12:07,990 --> 00:12:08,000 that 99% of the criminals are still 577 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,310 that 99% of the criminals are still unpunished and walking free, the ones 578 00:12:10,310 --> 00:12:10,320 unpunished and walking free, the ones 579 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,430 unpunished and walking free, the ones that are still alive 30 years later. And 580 00:12:13,430 --> 00:12:13,440 that are still alive 30 years later. And 581 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,430 that are still alive 30 years later. And the the vitriol and the uh propaganda is 582 00:12:17,430 --> 00:12:17,440 the the vitriol and the uh propaganda is 583 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,350 the the vitriol and the uh propaganda is still running pretty strong. And now you 584 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:19,360 still running pretty strong. And now you 585 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,790 still running pretty strong. And now you could say it's even more aggressive 586 00:12:20,790 --> 00:12:20,800 could say it's even more aggressive 587 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,550 could say it's even more aggressive because they have the internet now to 588 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:22,560 because they have the internet now to 589 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:24,629 because they have the internet now to try to propaganda as before it was over 590 00:12:24,629 --> 00:12:24,639 try to propaganda as before it was over 591 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:26,790 try to propaganda as before it was over the radio and television and in the 592 00:12:26,790 --> 00:12:26,800 the radio and television and in the 593 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,190 the radio and television and in the households and so on. But now there's 594 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:29,200 households and so on. But now there's 595 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,590 households and so on. But now there's the internet which is hugely like 596 00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:31,600 the internet which is hugely like 597 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,509 the internet which is hugely like influential obviously with reaching as 598 00:12:33,509 --> 00:12:33,519 influential obviously with reaching as 599 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:37,030 influential obviously with reaching as many people and also the uh people in 600 00:12:37,030 --> 00:12:37,040 many people and also the uh people in 601 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,030 many people and also the uh people in the region are more separated than ever 602 00:12:39,030 --> 00:12:39,040 the region are more separated than ever 603 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,509 the region are more separated than ever now because of this these separations 604 00:12:41,509 --> 00:12:41,519 now because of this these separations 605 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:43,990 now because of this these separations that occurred in Bosnia under the Dayton 606 00:12:43,990 --> 00:12:44,000 that occurred in Bosnia under the Dayton 607 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,790 that occurred in Bosnia under the Dayton agreement but also just in general. uh 608 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:46,800 agreement but also just in general. uh 609 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,030 agreement but also just in general. uh Yugoslavia was much more sort of mixed 610 00:12:49,030 --> 00:12:49,040 Yugoslavia was much more sort of mixed 611 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,550 Yugoslavia was much more sort of mixed up. People were living next to one 612 00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:50,560 up. People were living next to one 613 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:52,389 up. People were living next to one another. There there's way less of that 614 00:12:52,389 --> 00:12:52,399 another. There there's way less of that 615 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:54,389 another. There there's way less of that happening now, meaning there's a lot 616 00:12:54,389 --> 00:12:54,399 happening now, meaning there's a lot 617 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:58,710 happening now, meaning there's a lot more room for propaganda to spread. And 618 00:12:58,710 --> 00:12:58,720 more room for propaganda to spread. And 619 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,550 more room for propaganda to spread. And there's a lot of red flags that I'm 620 00:13:00,550 --> 00:13:00,560 there's a lot of red flags that I'm 621 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:02,870 there's a lot of red flags that I'm seeing. One of the red flags is some of 622 00:13:02,870 --> 00:13:02,880 seeing. One of the red flags is some of 623 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,230 seeing. One of the red flags is some of the the uh politicians and other people 624 00:13:06,230 --> 00:13:06,240 the the uh politicians and other people 625 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,350 the the uh politicians and other people of influence. The kinds of rhetoric that 626 00:13:09,350 --> 00:13:09,360 of influence. The kinds of rhetoric that 627 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,430 of influence. The kinds of rhetoric that that's coming out of them is almost 628 00:13:11,430 --> 00:13:11,440 that's coming out of them is almost 629 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,350 that's coming out of them is almost identical to the kind of rhetoric we saw 630 00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:13,360 identical to the kind of rhetoric we saw 631 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,030 identical to the kind of rhetoric we saw in 1989, 1990, 1991 in the buildup to 632 00:13:17,030 --> 00:13:17,040 in 1989, 1990, 1991 in the buildup to 633 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,790 in 1989, 1990, 1991 in the buildup to the Bosnian. 634 00:13:18,790 --> 00:13:18,800 the Bosnian. 635 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,590 the Bosnian. I'm also seeing the armaments issue 636 00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:21,600 I'm also seeing the armaments issue 637 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,590 I'm also seeing the armaments issue which I think Beck was talking about 638 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:23,600 which I think Beck was talking about 639 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,949 which I think Beck was talking about which was that there was a kind of a 640 00:13:24,949 --> 00:13:24,959 which was that there was a kind of a 641 00:13:24,959 --> 00:13:28,629 which was that there was a kind of a push to arm with new weapons and so on. 642 00:13:28,629 --> 00:13:28,639 push to arm with new weapons and so on. 643 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:31,430 push to arm with new weapons and so on. Uh there was a lot of uh arming of the 644 00:13:31,430 --> 00:13:31,440 Uh there was a lot of uh arming of the 645 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,629 Uh there was a lot of uh arming of the civilian population in 1990 1991 around 646 00:13:34,629 --> 00:13:34,639 civilian population in 1990 1991 around 647 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:36,710 civilian population in 1990 1991 around Bosnia and I mean the Serb civilian 648 00:13:36,710 --> 00:13:36,720 Bosnia and I mean the Serb civilian 649 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,949 Bosnia and I mean the Serb civilian population because there was a plan for 650 00:13:38,949 --> 00:13:38,959 population because there was a plan for 651 00:13:38,959 --> 00:13:41,190 population because there was a plan for and they were preparing to do it and 652 00:13:41,190 --> 00:13:41,200 and they were preparing to do it and 653 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,949 and they were preparing to do it and they did a lot of armying under the 654 00:13:42,949 --> 00:13:42,959 they did a lot of armying under the 655 00:13:42,959 --> 00:13:45,110 they did a lot of armying under the table. Now they're actually way more 656 00:13:45,110 --> 00:13:45,120 table. Now they're actually way more 657 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,350 table. Now they're actually way more brazen about it. I think when you look 658 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:47,360 brazen about it. I think when you look 659 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,350 brazen about it. I think when you look at some of these drones like investing 660 00:13:49,350 --> 00:13:49,360 at some of these drones like investing 661 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,430 at some of these drones like investing in drones, who are they really going to 662 00:13:51,430 --> 00:13:51,440 in drones, who are they really going to 663 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,949 in drones, who are they really going to attack in a region like the the two 664 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:54,959 attack in a region like the the two 665 00:13:54,959 --> 00:13:57,110 attack in a region like the the two options are really Kasovo which they 666 00:13:57,110 --> 00:13:57,120 options are really Kasovo which they 667 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,509 options are really Kasovo which they attempted to in 1999 but chance of that 668 00:14:01,509 --> 00:14:01,519 attempted to in 1999 but chance of that 669 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:03,590 attempted to in 1999 but chance of that happening is probably low because United 670 00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:03,600 happening is probably low because United 671 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,990 happening is probably low because United States military presence in Kasovo I 672 00:14:05,990 --> 00:14:06,000 States military presence in Kasovo I 673 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,150 States military presence in Kasovo I don't think they're going to allow a war 674 00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:08,160 don't think they're going to allow a war 675 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,230 don't think they're going to allow a war to to steamroll through the military 676 00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:10,240 to to steamroll through the military 677 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,069 to to steamroll through the military bases that are down there might happen 678 00:14:12,069 --> 00:14:12,079 bases that are down there might happen 679 00:14:12,079 --> 00:14:13,829 bases that are down there might happen but I'm saying that the more realistic 680 00:14:13,829 --> 00:14:13,839 but I'm saying that the more realistic 681 00:14:13,839 --> 00:14:16,389 but I'm saying that the more realistic set of circumstances here is that the 682 00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:16,399 set of circumstances here is that the 683 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:19,590 set of circumstances here is that the attempt to uh reignite the Bosnian to 684 00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:19,600 attempt to uh reignite the Bosnian to 685 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,509 attempt to uh reignite the Bosnian to keep it going because you people have to 686 00:14:21,509 --> 00:14:21,519 keep it going because you people have to 687 00:14:21,519 --> 00:14:23,910 keep it going because you people have to understand it never ended. It just got 688 00:14:23,910 --> 00:14:23,920 understand it never ended. It just got 689 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,710 understand it never ended. It just got frozen in 1995 based on Dayton agreement 690 00:14:26,710 --> 00:14:26,720 frozen in 1995 based on Dayton agreement 691 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,870 frozen in 1995 based on Dayton agreement which didn't resolve anything. It just 692 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:28,880 which didn't resolve anything. It just 693 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,670 which didn't resolve anything. It just froze the situation and now the people 694 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:31,680 froze the situation and now the people 695 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,269 froze the situation and now the people that committed a lot of those crimes 696 00:14:33,269 --> 00:14:33,279 that committed a lot of those crimes 697 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:35,269 that committed a lot of those crimes which basically were rewarded with half 698 00:14:35,269 --> 00:14:35,279 which basically were rewarded with half 699 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:37,910 which basically were rewarded with half the state that they 700 00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:37,920 the state that they 701 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,069 the state that they 49% of it uh they're all ramping up with 702 00:14:42,069 --> 00:14:42,079 49% of it uh they're all ramping up with 703 00:14:42,079 --> 00:14:44,710 49% of it uh they're all ramping up with their with their uh rhetoric about you 704 00:14:44,710 --> 00:14:44,720 their with their uh rhetoric about you 705 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,069 their with their uh rhetoric about you know get rid of the the Bosnjaks. So the 706 00:14:48,069 --> 00:14:48,079 know get rid of the the Bosnjaks. So the 707 00:14:48,079 --> 00:14:50,389 know get rid of the the Bosnjaks. So the fact that these weapons are being sold 708 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:50,399 fact that these weapons are being sold 709 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:52,470 fact that these weapons are being sold to Serbia and also the fact that there's 710 00:14:52,470 --> 00:14:52,480 to Serbia and also the fact that there's 711 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,949 to Serbia and also the fact that there's now some weapons factories being opened 712 00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:54,959 now some weapons factories being opened 713 00:14:54,959 --> 00:14:57,110 now some weapons factories being opened in SSKA which is the the Serb entity 714 00:14:57,110 --> 00:14:57,120 in SSKA which is the the Serb entity 715 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,150 in SSKA which is the the Serb entity within Bosnia. I think people have to 716 00:15:00,150 --> 00:15:00,160 within Bosnia. I think people have to 717 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,750 within Bosnia. I think people have to understand that these are not just 718 00:15:01,750 --> 00:15:01,760 understand that these are not just 719 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,230 understand that these are not just random events that this is definitely 720 00:15:04,230 --> 00:15:04,240 random events that this is definitely 721 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,069 random events that this is definitely part of this idea that if we were to 722 00:15:06,069 --> 00:15:06,079 part of this idea that if we were to 723 00:15:06,079 --> 00:15:08,470 part of this idea that if we were to start another it's probably not going to 724 00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:08,480 start another it's probably not going to 725 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,310 start another it's probably not going to be like the old one. meaning you're 726 00:15:10,310 --> 00:15:10,320 be like the old one. meaning you're 727 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,750 be like the old one. meaning you're going to have heavy weaponry of the 728 00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:11,760 going to have heavy weaponry of the 729 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,350 going to have heavy weaponry of the Yugoslav National Army and you're going 730 00:15:13,350 --> 00:15:13,360 Yugoslav National Army and you're going 731 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,269 Yugoslav National Army and you're going to dig into high positions across the 732 00:15:15,269 --> 00:15:15,279 to dig into high positions across the 733 00:15:15,279 --> 00:15:17,189 to dig into high positions across the country and put everything under siege. 734 00:15:17,189 --> 00:15:17,199 country and put everything under siege. 735 00:15:17,199 --> 00:15:19,590 country and put everything under siege. More than likely, the vision of that's 736 00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:19,600 More than likely, the vision of that's 737 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,750 More than likely, the vision of that's coming is one where you have tools like 738 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:21,760 coming is one where you have tools like 739 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,670 coming is one where you have tools like drones or something like bombing a 740 00:15:23,670 --> 00:15:23,680 drones or something like bombing a 741 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,790 drones or something like bombing a mosque by going in it and large amounts 742 00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:26,800 mosque by going in it and large amounts 743 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,470 mosque by going in it and large amounts of people and you only require one or 744 00:15:28,470 --> 00:15:28,480 of people and you only require one or 745 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,949 of people and you only require one or two people to do that or even a machine. 746 00:15:30,949 --> 00:15:30,959 two people to do that or even a machine. 747 00:15:30,959 --> 00:15:33,110 two people to do that or even a machine. Right? So in other words, I think people 748 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:33,120 Right? So in other words, I think people 749 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,509 Right? So in other words, I think people are, let's just say, engaging with large 750 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:35,519 are, let's just say, engaging with large 751 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:37,590 are, let's just say, engaging with large amounts of cognitive dissonance when 752 00:15:37,590 --> 00:15:37,600 amounts of cognitive dissonance when 753 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,870 amounts of cognitive dissonance when they look at what's happening and they 754 00:15:38,870 --> 00:15:38,880 they look at what's happening and they 755 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,389 they look at what's happening and they say none of this could ever happen again 756 00:15:40,389 --> 00:15:40,399 say none of this could ever happen again 757 00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:43,030 say none of this could ever happen again or it's not possible. I look at just 758 00:15:43,030 --> 00:15:43,040 or it's not possible. I look at just 759 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,030 or it's not possible. I look at just evidence at hand, like just things that 760 00:15:45,030 --> 00:15:45,040 evidence at hand, like just things that 761 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,670 evidence at hand, like just things that I'm noticing, same as Beck noticed it. 762 00:15:47,670 --> 00:15:47,680 I'm noticing, same as Beck noticed it. 763 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,150 I'm noticing, same as Beck noticed it. And I don't think his his gut roll 764 00:15:50,150 --> 00:15:50,160 And I don't think his his gut roll 765 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,110 And I don't think his his gut roll feeling is this is bad. This is bad red 766 00:15:53,110 --> 00:15:53,120 feeling is this is bad. This is bad red 767 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,870 feeling is this is bad. This is bad red flags. And I would I would agree with 768 00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:54,880 flags. And I would I would agree with 769 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,710 flags. And I would I would agree with him. I I think you have to look at these 770 00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:56,720 him. I I think you have to look at these 771 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,110 him. I I think you have to look at these things as incredibly dangerous 772 00:15:59,110 --> 00:15:59,120 things as incredibly dangerous 773 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,069 things as incredibly dangerous precedents as the Overton window so to 774 00:16:02,069 --> 00:16:02,079 precedents as the Overton window so to 775 00:16:02,079 --> 00:16:04,870 precedents as the Overton window so to say keeps moving towards making another 776 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:04,880 say keeps moving towards making another 777 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,030 say keeps moving towards making another acceptable and you have to look at also 778 00:16:07,030 --> 00:16:07,040 acceptable and you have to look at also 779 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,590 acceptable and you have to look at also Serb relation with right-wing movements 780 00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:09,600 Serb relation with right-wing movements 781 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,550 Serb relation with right-wing movements across Europe which are all anti-Muslim 782 00:16:12,550 --> 00:16:12,560 across Europe which are all anti-Muslim 783 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,710 across Europe which are all anti-Muslim right like all of them are and they're 784 00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:14,720 right like all of them are and they're 785 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,790 right like all of them are and they're trying to gain support across the board 786 00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:16,800 trying to gain support across the board 787 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,590 trying to gain support across the board with those people and I I bet you they 788 00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:19,600 with those people and I I bet you they 789 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,590 with those people and I I bet you they also want them to come and fight on 790 00:16:21,590 --> 00:16:21,600 also want them to come and fight on 791 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,670 also want them to come and fight on their side if there is another meaning 792 00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:23,680 their side if there is another meaning 793 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,310 their side if there is another meaning to draw a lot the fighters from Western 794 00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:26,320 to draw a lot the fighters from Western 795 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,470 to draw a lot the fighters from Western Europe, they just want to Muslims 796 00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:28,480 Europe, they just want to Muslims 797 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,790 Europe, they just want to Muslims because if that opens up in Bosnia, 798 00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:30,800 because if that opens up in Bosnia, 799 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,389 because if that opens up in Bosnia, their next thing in their mind is going 800 00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:32,399 their next thing in their mind is going 801 00:16:32,399 --> 00:16:33,910 their next thing in their mind is going to be, well, once we get rid of all the 802 00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:33,920 to be, well, once we get rid of all the 803 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,990 to be, well, once we get rid of all the Bosnjaks and kill the 2 million of them, 804 00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:36,000 Bosnjaks and kill the 2 million of them, 805 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,590 Bosnjaks and kill the 2 million of them, we can go ahead and move and kill the 806 00:16:37,590 --> 00:16:37,600 we can go ahead and move and kill the 807 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,509 we can go ahead and move and kill the rest of the Muslims in all of Europe. 808 00:16:39,509 --> 00:16:39,519 rest of the Muslims in all of Europe. 809 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:40,949 rest of the Muslims in all of Europe. You have to understand how these people 810 00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:40,959 You have to understand how these people 811 00:16:40,959 --> 00:16:42,949 You have to understand how these people think. And the idea that this can't 812 00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:42,959 think. And the idea that this can't 813 00:16:42,959 --> 00:16:45,430 think. And the idea that this can't happen or won't happen is just is is 814 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:45,440 happen or won't happen is just is is 815 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,749 happen or won't happen is just is is just cognitive dissonance. It's meaning 816 00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:47,759 just cognitive dissonance. It's meaning 817 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:50,870 just cognitive dissonance. It's meaning like your brain is telling you uh that 818 00:16:50,870 --> 00:16:50,880 like your brain is telling you uh that 819 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,350 like your brain is telling you uh that things are better than they seem to be 820 00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:53,360 things are better than they seem to be 821 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,509 things are better than they seem to be and you're essentially engaging in 822 00:16:55,509 --> 00:16:55,519 and you're essentially engaging in 823 00:16:55,519 --> 00:16:58,069 and you're essentially engaging in self-d delusion that this could happen, 824 00:16:58,069 --> 00:16:58,079 self-d delusion that this could happen, 825 00:16:58,079 --> 00:17:01,110 self-d delusion that this could happen, right? And and in Bosnia, this will 826 00:17:01,110 --> 00:17:01,120 right? And and in Bosnia, this will 827 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,030 right? And and in Bosnia, this will affect everybody. It's not just the 828 00:17:03,030 --> 00:17:03,040 affect everybody. It's not just the 829 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,110 affect everybody. It's not just the Muslims of Bosnia. It's anybody that has 830 00:17:05,110 --> 00:17:05,120 Muslims of Bosnia. It's anybody that has 831 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:06,949 Muslims of Bosnia. It's anybody that has a name that sounds like they may be a 832 00:17:06,949 --> 00:17:06,959 a name that sounds like they may be a 833 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:09,350 a name that sounds like they may be a Muslim. Anybody that lives in the areas 834 00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:09,360 Muslim. Anybody that lives in the areas 835 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:11,189 Muslim. Anybody that lives in the areas where there's Muslim majority 836 00:17:11,189 --> 00:17:11,199 where there's Muslim majority 837 00:17:11,199 --> 00:17:13,669 where there's Muslim majority population, like if you're a Serb that's 838 00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:13,679 population, like if you're a Serb that's 839 00:17:13,679 --> 00:17:15,029 population, like if you're a Serb that's still in Sieo and believes in 840 00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:15,039 still in Sieo and believes in 841 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:16,710 still in Sieo and believes in multi-thnic Bosnia, you're going to get 842 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:16,720 multi-thnic Bosnia, you're going to get 843 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,270 multi-thnic Bosnia, you're going to get targeted too. Or Croat that believes in 844 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:19,280 targeted too. Or Croat that believes in 845 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,630 targeted too. Or Croat that believes in multi-thnic Bosnia, you're going to get 846 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:20,640 multi-thnic Bosnia, you're going to get 847 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,110 multi-thnic Bosnia, you're going to get targeted too. So, so again, people have 848 00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:23,120 targeted too. So, so again, people have 849 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:24,870 targeted too. So, so again, people have to understand that this is a just a 850 00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:24,880 to understand that this is a just a 851 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,630 to understand that this is a just a frozen situation which is currently in 852 00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:26,640 frozen situation which is currently in 853 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,669 frozen situation which is currently in stage 10 denial of genocide has 10 854 00:17:29,669 --> 00:17:29,679 stage 10 denial of genocide has 10 855 00:17:29,679 --> 00:17:32,070 stage 10 denial of genocide has 10 stages, right? Right now, it's in stage 856 00:17:32,070 --> 00:17:32,080 stages, right? Right now, it's in stage 857 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,230 stages, right? Right now, it's in stage 10 denial of the last and it's probably 858 00:17:34,230 --> 00:17:34,240 10 denial of the last and it's probably 859 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,070 10 denial of the last and it's probably in stage four or five of the next. 860 00:17:36,070 --> 00:17:36,080 in stage four or five of the next. 861 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,750 in stage four or five of the next. That's where we're at. 862 00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:37,760 That's where we're at. 863 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,470 That's where we're at. >> You said there's 10 and we're in what? 864 00:17:42,470 --> 00:17:42,480 >> You said there's 10 and we're in what? 865 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,870 >> You said there's 10 and we're in what? >> I think in as far as the last the one 866 00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:44,880 >> I think in as far as the last the one 867 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,510 >> I think in as far as the last the one from 1992 to 1995, we're in stage 10 of 868 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:47,520 from 1992 to 1995, we're in stage 10 of 869 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,390 from 1992 to 1995, we're in stage 10 of it, which is denial, meaning erasure of 870 00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:50,400 it, which is denial, meaning erasure of 871 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,590 it, which is denial, meaning erasure of evidence, a cover up of what happened. 872 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:53,600 evidence, a cover up of what happened. 873 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,830 evidence, a cover up of what happened. And we have many many examples of that. 874 00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:55,840 And we have many many examples of that. 875 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,070 And we have many many examples of that. I could write 10 books on examples of 876 00:17:58,070 --> 00:17:58,080 I could write 10 books on examples of 877 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,909 I could write 10 books on examples of how the has been covered up. 878 00:17:59,909 --> 00:17:59,919 how the has been covered up. 879 00:17:59,919 --> 00:18:00,310 how the has been covered up. >> Mhm. 880 00:18:00,310 --> 00:18:00,320 >> Mhm. 881 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,549 >> Mhm. >> Right. And then there's also you can 882 00:18:02,549 --> 00:18:02,559 >> Right. And then there's also you can 883 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:05,430 >> Right. And then there's also you can look at the next coming as a separate 884 00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:05,440 look at the next coming as a separate 885 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,150 look at the next coming as a separate just for sake of argument and say that 886 00:18:08,150 --> 00:18:08,160 just for sake of argument and say that 887 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,070 just for sake of argument and say that we're probably in in stage four or five 888 00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:10,080 we're probably in in stage four or five 889 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,190 we're probably in in stage four or five of that meaning we're in the 890 00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:11,200 of that meaning we're in the 891 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,510 of that meaning we're in the dehumanization stage. We just haven't 892 00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:13,520 dehumanization stage. We just haven't 893 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,350 dehumanization stage. We just haven't gotten to the stage where we're fully 894 00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:15,360 gotten to the stage where we're fully 895 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:17,909 gotten to the stage where we're fully now ramping up like paramilitary units 896 00:18:17,909 --> 00:18:17,919 now ramping up like paramilitary units 897 00:18:17,919 --> 00:18:20,070 now ramping up like paramilitary units or whatever plan is going to be to fully 898 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:20,080 or whatever plan is going to be to fully 899 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,430 or whatever plan is going to be to fully annihilate everybody. But that could 900 00:18:21,430 --> 00:18:21,440 annihilate everybody. But that could 901 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,270 annihilate everybody. But that could happen very quickly in this day and age. 902 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:23,280 happen very quickly in this day and age. 903 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,990 happen very quickly in this day and age. We have to understand that in 1991 1992 904 00:18:25,990 --> 00:18:26,000 We have to understand that in 1991 1992 905 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,350 We have to understand that in 1991 1992 Bosnia it went from a stable state to 906 00:18:29,350 --> 00:18:29,360 Bosnia it went from a stable state to 907 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:31,669 Bosnia it went from a stable state to essentially dark ages within a few 908 00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:31,679 essentially dark ages within a few 909 00:18:31,679 --> 00:18:34,470 essentially dark ages within a few months and in in Sievo it felt like that 910 00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:34,480 months and in in Sievo it felt like that 911 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,750 months and in in Sievo it felt like that was more like 2 weeks. 912 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:35,760 was more like 2 weeks. 913 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,870 was more like 2 weeks. >> So that's that answers my my next 914 00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:38,880 >> So that's that answers my my next 915 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,390 >> So that's that answers my my next question. Sorry to cut you off is that 916 00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:40,400 question. Sorry to cut you off is that 917 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,310 question. Sorry to cut you off is that people will say well there's so much 918 00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:42,320 people will say well there's so much 919 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,270 people will say well there's so much investment going on in in Bosnia. It's 920 00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:45,280 investment going on in in Bosnia. It's 921 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,870 investment going on in in Bosnia. It's growing the economy. People wouldn't be 922 00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:46,880 growing the economy. People wouldn't be 923 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,390 growing the economy. People wouldn't be investing. 924 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:48,400 investing. 925 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,590 investing. >> But uh what would you say to that? 926 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:51,600 >> But uh what would you say to that? 927 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,830 >> But uh what would you say to that? I think that's delusional thinking 928 00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:53,840 I think that's delusional thinking 929 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,669 I think that's delusional thinking because you have to understand where the 930 00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:55,679 because you have to understand where the 931 00:18:55,679 --> 00:18:57,830 because you have to understand where the priority list is for these people. The 932 00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:57,840 priority list is for these people. The 933 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,390 priority list is for these people. The priority is to get to their ethnostate. 934 00:19:00,390 --> 00:19:00,400 priority is to get to their ethnostate. 935 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,630 priority is to get to their ethnostate. They will sacrifice massive amounts to 936 00:19:02,630 --> 00:19:02,640 They will sacrifice massive amounts to 937 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,390 They will sacrifice massive amounts to get their ethnostate. You have to 938 00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:04,400 get their ethnostate. You have to 939 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,110 get their ethnostate. You have to understand that last time around 25,000 940 00:19:07,110 --> 00:19:07,120 understand that last time around 25,000 941 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:11,350 understand that last time around 25,000 Serbs died as soldiers in that they gave 942 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:11,360 Serbs died as soldiers in that they gave 943 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:13,510 Serbs died as soldiers in that they gave their life away in order to accomplish 944 00:19:13,510 --> 00:19:13,520 their life away in order to accomplish 945 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,350 their life away in order to accomplish their ethnost state. That's still their 946 00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:15,360 their ethnost state. That's still their 947 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,190 their ethnost state. That's still their goal. So the idea that they're building 948 00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:17,200 goal. So the idea that they're building 949 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,029 goal. So the idea that they're building a house or building a factory, you're 950 00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:19,039 a house or building a factory, you're 951 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:21,750 a house or building a factory, you're building a building, that is far less 952 00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:21,760 building a building, that is far less 953 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,909 building a building, that is far less important than accomplishing the ethnost 954 00:19:23,909 --> 00:19:23,919 important than accomplishing the ethnost 955 00:19:23,919 --> 00:19:26,470 important than accomplishing the ethnost state. So people have to understand that 956 00:19:26,470 --> 00:19:26,480 state. So people have to understand that 957 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,150 state. So people have to understand that they're willing to sacrifice everybody 958 00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:28,160 they're willing to sacrifice everybody 959 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,549 they're willing to sacrifice everybody and their mom as long as they get the 960 00:19:30,549 --> 00:19:30,559 and their mom as long as they get the 961 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:32,390 and their mom as long as they get the goal that they have at the end. And the 962 00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:32,400 goal that they have at the end. And the 963 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,110 goal that they have at the end. And the goal is to have an ethnically pure 964 00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:35,120 goal is to have an ethnically pure 965 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:38,150 goal is to have an ethnically pure ethnostate. And the idea is these people 966 00:19:38,150 --> 00:19:38,160 ethnostate. And the idea is these people 967 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,390 ethnostate. And the idea is these people think long term. Even if they lose every 968 00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:40,400 think long term. Even if they lose every 969 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,909 think long term. Even if they lose every single business they built, even if they 970 00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:41,919 single business they built, even if they 971 00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:43,590 single business they built, even if they lose every single building they built or 972 00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:43,600 lose every single building they built or 973 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,029 lose every single building they built or whatever investment they made in a 974 00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:45,039 whatever investment they made in a 975 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:47,510 whatever investment they made in a country, once they get their ethnostate, 976 00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:47,520 country, once they get their ethnostate, 977 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,750 country, once they get their ethnostate, they think long term. We will rebuild 978 00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:49,760 they think long term. We will rebuild 979 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,669 they think long term. We will rebuild and in a 100 years our ethnostate is 980 00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:51,679 and in a 100 years our ethnostate is 981 00:19:51,679 --> 00:19:53,110 and in a 100 years our ethnostate is going to be successful. That's how they 982 00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:53,120 going to be successful. That's how they 983 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:55,669 going to be successful. That's how they think, right? The reality may dictate 984 00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:55,679 think, right? The reality may dictate 985 00:19:55,679 --> 00:19:57,909 think, right? The reality may dictate things very differently. But this idea 986 00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:57,919 things very differently. But this idea 987 00:19:57,919 --> 00:19:59,430 things very differently. But this idea that because they're investing, they're 988 00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:59,440 that because they're investing, they're 989 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,270 that because they're investing, they're not interested. That is just complete 990 00:20:01,270 --> 00:20:01,280 not interested. That is just complete 991 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,350 not interested. That is just complete delusional thinking. That is not based 992 00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:03,360 delusional thinking. That is not based 993 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:06,310 delusional thinking. That is not based by any any fact. And in fact, find me 994 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:06,320 by any any fact. And in fact, find me 995 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,029 by any any fact. And in fact, find me one case of anywhere and people trying 996 00:20:09,029 --> 00:20:09,039 one case of anywhere and people trying 997 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:11,110 one case of anywhere and people trying to build an ethnostate where they where 998 00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:11,120 to build an ethnostate where they where 999 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:13,270 to build an ethnostate where they where their business interest supersedes the 1000 00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:13,280 their business interest supersedes the 1001 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,630 their business interest supersedes the ethnostate. That's not the way it works. 1002 00:20:16,630 --> 00:20:16,640 ethnostate. That's not the way it works. 1003 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,029 ethnostate. That's not the way it works. Tell me, we don't hear much about u 1004 00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:19,039 Tell me, we don't hear much about u 1005 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:20,630 Tell me, we don't hear much about u religion mentioned here. When it comes, 1006 00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:20,640 religion mentioned here. When it comes, 1007 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,070 religion mentioned here. When it comes, we hear ethnostate, we hear um uh Serb 1008 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:24,080 we hear ethnostate, we hear um uh Serb 1009 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,029 we hear ethnostate, we hear um uh Serb extremist, we hear the term chutnik, but 1010 00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:27,039 extremist, we hear the term chutnik, but 1011 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:29,190 extremist, we hear the term chutnik, but uh from looking into it deeper, people 1012 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:29,200 uh from looking into it deeper, people 1013 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,789 uh from looking into it deeper, people have seen that many of these priests 1014 00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:30,799 have seen that many of these priests 1015 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:33,590 have seen that many of these priests were blessing the guns. We see that and 1016 00:20:33,590 --> 00:20:33,600 were blessing the guns. We see that and 1017 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,510 were blessing the guns. We see that and I'm not trying to in any which way blame 1018 00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:35,520 I'm not trying to in any which way blame 1019 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,870 I'm not trying to in any which way blame Christianity but what religion were 1020 00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:38,880 Christianity but what religion were 1021 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,669 Christianity but what religion were ratum ladich these war criminals we see 1022 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:41,679 ratum ladich these war criminals we see 1023 00:20:41,679 --> 00:20:44,149 ratum ladich these war criminals we see them in church we see them uh if you 1024 00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:44,159 them in church we see them uh if you 1025 00:20:44,159 --> 00:20:46,549 them in church we see them uh if you were to ask many of these people that 1026 00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:46,559 were to ask many of these people that 1027 00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:48,630 were to ask many of these people that you talk about what religion would they 1028 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:48,640 you talk about what religion would they 1029 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,470 you talk about what religion would they identify with and this is in no way 1030 00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:50,480 identify with and this is in no way 1031 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,310 identify with and this is in no way blaming the religion but I'm just asking 1032 00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:52,320 blaming the religion but I'm just asking 1033 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,630 blaming the religion but I'm just asking because we anytime a nut job does 1034 00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:54,640 because we anytime a nut job does 1035 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,630 because we anytime a nut job does something and just because his name 1036 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:56,640 something and just because his name 1037 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,430 something and just because his name might be you know connected to an Arabic 1038 00:20:59,430 --> 00:20:59,440 might be you know connected to an Arabic 1039 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,230 might be you know connected to an Arabic name or something Islam is like put 1040 00:21:02,230 --> 00:21:02,240 name or something Islam is like put 1041 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,149 name or something Islam is like put under the microscope. But what religion 1042 00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:04,159 under the microscope. But what religion 1043 00:21:04,159 --> 00:21:06,470 under the microscope. But what religion would these people identify with? 1044 00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:06,480 would these people identify with? 1045 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,909 would these people identify with? >> So I'll answer that question in two 1046 00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:07,919 >> So I'll answer that question in two 1047 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:10,310 >> So I'll answer that question in two parts. I'm going to put as as a preface 1048 00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:10,320 parts. I'm going to put as as a preface 1049 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,590 parts. I'm going to put as as a preface to my answer. I think if B if Bosnjaks 1050 00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:13,600 to my answer. I think if B if Bosnjaks 1051 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,430 to my answer. I think if B if Bosnjaks were Buddhist, the same would happen. If 1052 00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:15,440 were Buddhist, the same would happen. If 1053 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,750 were Buddhist, the same would happen. If Bosnjaks were Jewish, same would happen. 1054 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:17,760 Bosnjaks were Jewish, same would happen. 1055 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,750 Bosnjaks were Jewish, same would happen. If Bosnjaks were any religion, the same 1056 00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:19,760 If Bosnjaks were any religion, the same 1057 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,710 If Bosnjaks were any religion, the same would happen. So I'm going to put that 1058 00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:20,720 would happen. So I'm going to put that 1059 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,669 would happen. So I'm going to put that as a as a as a preface to this answer. 1060 00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:23,679 as a as a as a preface to this answer. 1061 00:21:23,679 --> 00:21:26,870 as a as a as a preface to this answer. The idea here was that uh uh there is 1062 00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:26,880 The idea here was that uh uh there is 1063 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,149 The idea here was that uh uh there is the the Serb ethnost state that that 1064 00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:30,159 the the Serb ethnost state that that 1065 00:21:30,159 --> 00:21:32,070 the the Serb ethnost state that that that Serb extremists wanted to build. 1066 00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:32,080 that Serb extremists wanted to build. 1067 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,590 that Serb extremists wanted to build. That does not include all Serbs. There 1068 00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:33,600 That does not include all Serbs. There 1069 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,510 That does not include all Serbs. There were Serbs that fought uh in a Bosnian 1070 00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:35,520 were Serbs that fought uh in a Bosnian 1071 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,870 were Serbs that fought uh in a Bosnian army. There were Serbs that were against 1072 00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:36,880 army. There were Serbs that were against 1073 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,310 army. There were Serbs that were against the ethnostates. I'm saying the 1074 00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:38,320 the ethnostates. I'm saying the 1075 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,669 the ethnostates. I'm saying the extremists. They are highly entrenched 1076 00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:41,679 extremists. They are highly entrenched 1077 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:45,270 extremists. They are highly entrenched with the the Orthodox Church of Serbia, 1078 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:45,280 with the the Orthodox Church of Serbia, 1079 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,270 with the the Orthodox Church of Serbia, which by and large probably yet a 1080 00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:47,280 which by and large probably yet a 1081 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,070 which by and large probably yet a massive percentage uh has supported 1082 00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:50,080 massive percentage uh has supported 1083 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,990 massive percentage uh has supported them. There's of course exceptions to 1084 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:52,000 them. There's of course exceptions to 1085 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,789 them. There's of course exceptions to that. There are Serb Orthodox priests 1086 00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:54,799 that. There are Serb Orthodox priests 1087 00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:56,630 that. There are Serb Orthodox priests which are against the ethnostate. But by 1088 00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:56,640 which are against the ethnostate. But by 1089 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,470 which are against the ethnostate. But by and large, this has been an an 1090 00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:58,480 and large, this has been an an 1091 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,029 and large, this has been an an institution that brainwashes people 1092 00:22:01,029 --> 00:22:01,039 institution that brainwashes people 1093 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:04,070 institution that brainwashes people along with any other uh institution in 1094 00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:04,080 along with any other uh institution in 1095 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,750 along with any other uh institution in Serbia that was controlled by the Serb 1096 00:22:05,750 --> 00:22:05,760 Serbia that was controlled by the Serb 1097 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,350 Serbia that was controlled by the Serb extremists. It's just another 1098 00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:07,360 extremists. It's just another 1099 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:08,870 extremists. It's just another institution controlled by Serbic 1100 00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:08,880 institution controlled by Serbic 1101 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,870 institution controlled by Serbic extremists and they use religion as a 1102 00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:12,880 extremists and they use religion as a 1103 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,110 extremists and they use religion as a way to spurn it. So meaning like to 1104 00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:15,120 way to spurn it. So meaning like to 1105 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:16,870 way to spurn it. So meaning like to motivate people to get into it is partly 1106 00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:16,880 motivate people to get into it is partly 1107 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,950 motivate people to get into it is partly to scare them to say that you know these 1108 00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:18,960 to scare them to say that you know these 1109 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,990 to scare them to say that you know these Catholic croats are coming to kill us. 1110 00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:22,000 Catholic croats are coming to kill us. 1111 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,510 Catholic croats are coming to kill us. For example, as it was in eastern 1112 00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:23,520 For example, as it was in eastern 1113 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,909 For example, as it was in eastern Croatia, southern and Delatia when in 1114 00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:25,919 Croatia, southern and Delatia when in 1115 00:22:25,919 --> 00:22:28,230 Croatia, southern and Delatia when in 1991 they were committing all sorts of 1116 00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:28,240 1991 they were committing all sorts of 1117 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,390 1991 they were committing all sorts of uh attacks and and genocide. One could 1118 00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:30,400 uh attacks and and genocide. One could 1119 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,149 uh attacks and and genocide. One could argue in some cases in Croatia they uh 1120 00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:34,159 argue in some cases in Croatia they uh 1121 00:22:34,159 --> 00:22:36,230 argue in some cases in Croatia they uh used religion there as a as a way to 1122 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:36,240 used religion there as a as a way to 1123 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,710 used religion there as a as a way to motivate people, right? To scare them to 1124 00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:38,720 motivate people, right? To scare them to 1125 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,230 motivate people, right? To scare them to say there's these other people with 1126 00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:40,240 say there's these other people with 1127 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,990 say there's these other people with other religion. But the Bosnia was a 1128 00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:42,000 other religion. But the Bosnia was a 1129 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,830 other religion. But the Bosnia was a major major goal for them because they 1130 00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:43,840 major major goal for them because they 1131 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,430 major major goal for them because they were entrenched across most of the 1132 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:45,440 were entrenched across most of the 1133 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,270 were entrenched across most of the country. So if they were going to 1134 00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:47,280 country. So if they were going to 1135 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,270 country. So if they were going to accomplish the greater Serbia 1136 00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:49,280 accomplish the greater Serbia 1137 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,190 accomplish the greater Serbia ethnostate, the Bosnia was their best 1138 00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:51,200 ethnostate, the Bosnia was their best 1139 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,190 ethnostate, the Bosnia was their best chance to do that. 1140 00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:53,200 chance to do that. 1141 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,430 chance to do that. >> And because they existed practically 1142 00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:55,440 >> And because they existed practically 1143 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,190 >> And because they existed practically they had pockets of extremists 1144 00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:57,200 they had pockets of extremists 1145 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,590 they had pockets of extremists everywhere in the country. So who was 1146 00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:59,600 everywhere in the country. So who was 1147 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,190 everywhere in the country. So who was who was going to be their number one 1148 00:23:01,190 --> 00:23:01,200 who was going to be their number one 1149 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,549 who was going to be their number one target? Well, it was going to be the 1150 00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:02,559 target? Well, it was going to be the 1151 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,549 target? Well, it was going to be the Muslims or the Bosnjaks. Majority of 1152 00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:04,559 Muslims or the Bosnjaks. Majority of 1153 00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:06,789 Muslims or the Bosnjaks. Majority of Bosnjaks are Muslims because they're the 1154 00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:06,799 Bosnjaks are Muslims because they're the 1155 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:09,029 Bosnjaks are Muslims because they're the largest population that you have to in 1156 00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:09,039 largest population that you have to in 1157 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:10,950 largest population that you have to in order to get the atan state and in order 1158 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:10,960 order to get the atan state and in order 1159 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,549 order to get the atan state and in order to clear, you know, keep them in the 1160 00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:12,559 to clear, you know, keep them in the 1161 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,430 to clear, you know, keep them in the areas which Serbs had split population 1162 00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:15,440 areas which Serbs had split population 1163 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,430 areas which Serbs had split population in. Like for example, Podrinia, which is 1164 00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:17,440 in. Like for example, Podrinia, which is 1165 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,350 in. Like for example, Podrinia, which is the eastern Bosnia, was about equally 1166 00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:19,360 the eastern Bosnia, was about equally 1167 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:21,990 the eastern Bosnia, was about equally split population between Muslims and 1168 00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:22,000 split population between Muslims and 1169 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,270 split population between Muslims and Serbs, right? Or Bosnjaks and Serbs. And 1170 00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:25,280 Serbs, right? Or Bosnjaks and Serbs. And 1171 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,070 Serbs, right? Or Bosnjaks and Serbs. And of course, you're going in order to 1172 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:28,080 of course, you're going in order to 1173 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,230 of course, you're going in order to ethnically remove everybody from that 1174 00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:30,240 ethnically remove everybody from that 1175 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,750 ethnically remove everybody from that area except for the Serbs, you're going 1176 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:31,760 area except for the Serbs, you're going 1177 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,590 area except for the Serbs, you're going to use something as a motivating factor. 1178 00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:33,600 to use something as a motivating factor. 1179 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,590 to use something as a motivating factor. Of course, religion was used and there's 1180 00:23:35,590 --> 00:23:35,600 Of course, religion was used and there's 1181 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,310 Of course, religion was used and there's a long set of myths going all the way 1182 00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:38,320 a long set of myths going all the way 1183 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,990 a long set of myths going all the way back to to Ottoman times when Serbs lost 1184 00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:42,000 back to to Ottoman times when Serbs lost 1185 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,310 back to to Ottoman times when Serbs lost the battle of Kasovo. Of course, they 1186 00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:44,320 the battle of Kasovo. Of course, they 1187 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,789 the battle of Kasovo. Of course, they never talk about the fact that Bosnjaks 1188 00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:46,799 never talk about the fact that Bosnjaks 1189 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:49,669 never talk about the fact that Bosnjaks were part of the the battle of Kasovo. 1190 00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:49,679 were part of the the battle of Kasovo. 1191 00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:51,909 were part of the the battle of Kasovo. They fought on the same side as Serbs 1192 00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:51,919 They fought on the same side as Serbs 1193 00:23:51,919 --> 00:23:54,149 They fought on the same side as Serbs and Albanians were in the battle of 1194 00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:54,159 and Albanians were in the battle of 1195 00:23:54,159 --> 00:23:56,950 and Albanians were in the battle of Kasovo also fought alongside Serbs 1196 00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:56,960 Kasovo also fought alongside Serbs 1197 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,909 Kasovo also fought alongside Serbs against the Ottomans. But now all the 1198 00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:59,919 against the Ottomans. But now all the 1199 00:23:59,919 --> 00:24:02,870 against the Ottomans. But now all the sort of mythology stemming from Ottoman 1200 00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:02,880 sort of mythology stemming from Ottoman 1201 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,470 sort of mythology stemming from Ottoman Empire is aimed at any other population 1202 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:06,480 Empire is aimed at any other population 1203 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,510 Empire is aimed at any other population in the region that's not the Serbs. 1204 00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:09,520 in the region that's not the Serbs. 1205 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,390 in the region that's not the Serbs. My concern this time which what makes 1206 00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:12,400 My concern this time which what makes 1207 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,990 My concern this time which what makes this one a little different than the 1208 00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:14,000 this one a little different than the 1209 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,950 this one a little different than the previous is that this time the amount of 1210 00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:16,960 previous is that this time the amount of 1211 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,149 previous is that this time the amount of Croatian extremists is even bigger. And 1212 00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:20,159 Croatian extremists is even bigger. And 1213 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:21,750 Croatian extremists is even bigger. And th those are the guys that are saying, 1214 00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:21,760 th those are the guys that are saying, 1215 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,029 th those are the guys that are saying, "Look, if we're going to split up 1216 00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:23,039 "Look, if we're going to split up 1217 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:24,789 "Look, if we're going to split up Bosnia, why don't we just split it up in 1218 00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:24,799 Bosnia, why don't we just split it up in 1219 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:28,630 Bosnia, why don't we just split it up in two crotz will take one chunk of Bosnia, 1220 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:28,640 two crotz will take one chunk of Bosnia, 1221 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,070 two crotz will take one chunk of Bosnia, Serbs will take the other chunk of 1222 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:30,080 Serbs will take the other chunk of 1223 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,310 Serbs will take the other chunk of Bosnia." So now what you're seeing a lot 1224 00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:32,320 Bosnia." So now what you're seeing a lot 1225 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,190 Bosnia." So now what you're seeing a lot is Croatian extremists also demonizing 1226 00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:35,200 is Croatian extremists also demonizing 1227 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,870 is Croatian extremists also demonizing the Bosnjaks 1228 00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:36,880 the Bosnjaks 1229 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,269 the Bosnjaks who they actually share an area in 1230 00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:39,279 who they actually share an area in 1231 00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:41,110 who they actually share an area in Bosnia with which is the Federation. The 1232 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:41,120 Bosnia with which is the Federation. The 1233 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:43,350 Bosnia with which is the Federation. The entity is a shared entity between the 1234 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:43,360 entity is a shared entity between the 1235 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,669 entity is a shared entity between the two. But there's a lot of propaganda 1236 00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:45,679 two. But there's a lot of propaganda 1237 00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:48,070 two. But there's a lot of propaganda saying, you know, crotz in Bosnia are 1238 00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:48,080 saying, you know, crotz in Bosnia are 1239 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,909 saying, you know, crotz in Bosnia are endangered because of the dangerous 1240 00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:49,919 endangered because of the dangerous 1241 00:24:49,919 --> 00:24:52,549 endangered because of the dangerous Muslims, right? We recently saw a 1242 00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:52,559 Muslims, right? We recently saw a 1243 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:57,029 Muslims, right? We recently saw a situation where a a Roman Catholic uh uh 1244 00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:57,039 situation where a a Roman Catholic uh uh 1245 00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:01,590 situation where a a Roman Catholic uh uh uh w woman who was a nun in in you may 1246 00:25:01,590 --> 00:25:01,600 uh w woman who was a nun in in you may 1247 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,110 uh w woman who was a nun in in you may have heard of this. There was a nun in I 1248 00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:03,120 have heard of this. There was a nun in I 1249 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:04,470 have heard of this. There was a nun in I think it was in Zagreb where this 1250 00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:04,480 think it was in Zagreb where this 1251 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,710 think it was in Zagreb where this happened where she came to a hospital 1252 00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:06,720 happened where she came to a hospital 1253 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,110 happened where she came to a hospital and she said a couple of Muslims stabbed 1254 00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:09,120 and she said a couple of Muslims stabbed 1255 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:11,110 and she said a couple of Muslims stabbed me and she was blaming a couple of 1256 00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:11,120 me and she was blaming a couple of 1257 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:12,630 me and she was blaming a couple of people from the Middle East right that 1258 00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:12,640 people from the Middle East right that 1259 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,710 people from the Middle East right that had stabbed her. Later on they found out 1260 00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:14,720 had stabbed her. Later on they found out 1261 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,310 had stabbed her. Later on they found out that she actually lied and she admitted 1262 00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:16,320 that she actually lied and she admitted 1263 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,470 that she actually lied and she admitted later to have lied. She faked the 1264 00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:18,480 later to have lied. She faked the 1265 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,549 later to have lied. She faked the stabbing in order to blame the Muslims. 1266 00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:20,559 stabbing in order to blame the Muslims. 1267 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:22,549 stabbing in order to blame the Muslims. You guys I mean everybody who's paying 1268 00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:22,559 You guys I mean everybody who's paying 1269 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:24,070 You guys I mean everybody who's paying attention to this and looks at these 1270 00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:24,080 attention to this and looks at these 1271 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,350 attention to this and looks at these situations has to understand that 1272 00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:25,360 situations has to understand that 1273 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:27,669 situations has to understand that they're not isolated incidents. These 1274 00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:27,679 they're not isolated incidents. These 1275 00:25:27,679 --> 00:25:29,669 they're not isolated incidents. These are organized incidents part of an 1276 00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:29,679 are organized incidents part of an 1277 00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:32,149 are organized incidents part of an ideology and the ideology that's now 1278 00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:32,159 ideology and the ideology that's now 1279 00:25:32,159 --> 00:25:33,990 ideology and the ideology that's now occurring in Bosnia is not just greater 1280 00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:34,000 occurring in Bosnia is not just greater 1281 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,230 occurring in Bosnia is not just greater Serbia ethnostate ideology. There's also 1282 00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:36,240 Serbia ethnostate ideology. There's also 1283 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,190 Serbia ethnostate ideology. There's also greater Croatia ethnostate ideology. And 1284 00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:39,200 greater Croatia ethnostate ideology. And 1285 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,430 greater Croatia ethnostate ideology. And who stands to lose in that whole deal? 1286 00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:41,440 who stands to lose in that whole deal? 1287 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,350 who stands to lose in that whole deal? It's going to be the Bosnjaks because 1288 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:43,360 It's going to be the Bosnjaks because 1289 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:45,430 It's going to be the Bosnjaks because they're in between those two in the 1290 00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:45,440 they're in between those two in the 1291 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,269 they're in between those two in the regions they would like to control in 1292 00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:47,279 regions they would like to control in 1293 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,190 regions they would like to control in the cities and the remote regions and 1294 00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:49,200 the cities and the remote regions and 1295 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,029 the cities and the remote regions and the villages and everything else that 1296 00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:51,039 the villages and everything else that 1297 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:53,669 the villages and everything else that that those guys want to control. So in 1298 00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:53,679 that those guys want to control. So in 1299 00:25:53,679 --> 00:25:56,230 that those guys want to control. So in other words, if another happens, this is 1300 00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:56,240 other words, if another happens, this is 1301 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,710 other words, if another happens, this is going to be a twosided 1302 00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:58,720 going to be a twosided 1303 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,269 going to be a twosided how many twoside genocides have we seen 1304 00:26:01,269 --> 00:26:01,279 how many twoside genocides have we seen 1305 00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:04,230 how many twoside genocides have we seen really ever, right? So it's shaping up 1306 00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:04,240 really ever, right? So it's shaping up 1307 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,269 really ever, right? So it's shaping up to be a total situation and 1308 00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:07,279 to be a total situation and 1309 00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:09,269 to be a total situation and unfortunately a lot of Bosnjaks are 1310 00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:09,279 unfortunately a lot of Bosnjaks are 1311 00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:11,269 unfortunately a lot of Bosnjaks are mired in cognitive dissonance, meaning 1312 00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:11,279 mired in cognitive dissonance, meaning 1313 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:13,430 mired in cognitive dissonance, meaning they're not understanding their their 1314 00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:13,440 they're not understanding their their 1315 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,310 they're not understanding their their geopolitical positions correctly in a 1316 00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:16,320 geopolitical positions correctly in a 1317 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,789 geopolitical positions correctly in a way that for example Kosavars are much 1318 00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:18,799 way that for example Kosavars are much 1319 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:20,390 way that for example Kosavars are much more in tune with their geopolitical 1320 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:20,400 more in tune with their geopolitical 1321 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,549 more in tune with their geopolitical position. Albanians happen to be much 1322 00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:22,559 position. Albanians happen to be much 1323 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:24,230 position. Albanians happen to be much more in tune with their geopolitical 1324 00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:24,240 more in tune with their geopolitical 1325 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,710 more in tune with their geopolitical position. Bosnjaks are like we nothing 1326 00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:26,720 position. Bosnjaks are like we nothing 1327 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,830 position. Bosnjaks are like we nothing will happen. Everything's going to be 1328 00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:27,840 will happen. Everything's going to be 1329 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,269 will happen. Everything's going to be fine. The same attitude they had in 1330 00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:29,279 fine. The same attitude they had in 1331 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:31,750 fine. The same attitude they had in 1991. And people have to understand that 1332 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:31,760 1991. And people have to understand that 1333 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,430 1991. And people have to understand that is the way their trauma has expressed 1334 00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:33,440 is the way their trauma has expressed 1335 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,350 is the way their trauma has expressed which is cognitive dissonance. And that 1336 00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:35,360 which is cognitive dissonance. And that 1337 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,909 which is cognitive dissonance. And that cognitive dissonance in a situation will 1338 00:26:37,909 --> 00:26:37,919 cognitive dissonance in a situation will 1339 00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:40,390 cognitive dissonance in a situation will get you period. 1340 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:40,400 get you period. 1341 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,909 get you period. >> You've been documenting so many 1342 00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:41,919 >> You've been documenting so many 1343 00:26:41,919 --> 00:26:43,430 >> You've been documenting so many different stories. I even talked to 1344 00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:43,440 different stories. I even talked to 1345 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,029 different stories. I even talked to yesterday had a conversation with 1346 00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:45,039 yesterday had a conversation with 1347 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:48,310 yesterday had a conversation with someone from SVO who was there also. He 1348 00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:48,320 someone from SVO who was there also. He 1349 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,269 someone from SVO who was there also. He was a survivor and some of the stories I 1350 00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:51,279 was a survivor and some of the stories I 1351 00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:54,390 was a survivor and some of the stories I mentioned that you talk about he didn't 1352 00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:54,400 mentioned that you talk about he didn't 1353 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,110 mentioned that you talk about he didn't even know about. So I was like wow 1354 00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:57,120 even know about. So I was like wow 1355 00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,510 even know about. So I was like wow there's so many of these stories. Uh let 1356 00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:59,520 there's so many of these stories. Uh let 1357 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,870 there's so many of these stories. Uh let let's share some of those. One of them 1358 00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:00,880 let's share some of those. One of them 1359 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,149 let's share some of those. One of them that come to mind when you talk about 1360 00:27:02,149 --> 00:27:02,159 that come to mind when you talk about 1361 00:27:02,159 --> 00:27:03,909 that come to mind when you talk about the programming the conditioning you 1362 00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:03,919 the programming the conditioning you 1363 00:27:03,919 --> 00:27:06,630 the programming the conditioning you think you know how can a mother a mother 1364 00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:06,640 think you know how can a mother a mother 1365 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,430 think you know how can a mother a mother who's the mer the mercy towards that 1366 00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:09,440 who's the mer the mercy towards that 1367 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,789 who's the mer the mercy towards that child. But then you mentioned a 1368 00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:10,799 child. But then you mentioned a 1369 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:12,710 child. But then you mentioned a 15-year-old steepo 1370 00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:12,720 15-year-old steepo 1371 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,269 15-year-old steepo >> this story about steo 1372 00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:15,279 >> this story about steo 1373 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,350 >> this story about steo >> and what was that about? Please uh fill 1374 00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:17,360 >> and what was that about? Please uh fill 1375 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:20,549 >> and what was that about? Please uh fill us in about this. Um even uh you 1376 00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:20,559 us in about this. Um even uh you 1377 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,669 us in about this. Um even uh you couldn't even trust your own mother. 1378 00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:23,679 couldn't even trust your own mother. 1379 00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:25,430 couldn't even trust your own mother. >> Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, it's one of 1380 00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:25,440 >> Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, it's one of 1381 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,029 >> Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, it's one of the there are many crazy stories, but 1382 00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:27,039 the there are many crazy stories, but 1383 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:28,310 the there are many crazy stories, but that's one of the craziest, right, that 1384 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:28,320 that's one of the craziest, right, that 1385 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,669 that's one of the craziest, right, that I've heard, which was there was a guy 1386 00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:29,679 I've heard, which was there was a guy 1387 00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:31,669 I've heard, which was there was a guy called Stipa Variota who was a 1388 00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:31,679 called Stipa Variota who was a 1389 00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:34,549 called Stipa Variota who was a 15year-old disabled child in Sieo. He 1390 00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:34,559 15year-old disabled child in Sieo. He 1391 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:37,990 15year-old disabled child in Sieo. He was had me cognitive disabilities, okay? 1392 00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:38,000 was had me cognitive disabilities, okay? 1393 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,310 was had me cognitive disabilities, okay? And he was in the home for disabled. And 1394 00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:40,320 And he was in the home for disabled. And 1395 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,350 And he was in the home for disabled. And when Sieo started to descend into what 1396 00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:43,360 when Sieo started to descend into what 1397 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:45,510 when Sieo started to descend into what it descended into, which is just dark 1398 00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:45,520 it descended into, which is just dark 1399 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,549 it descended into, which is just dark ages, right at the beginning, they let a 1400 00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:48,559 ages, right at the beginning, they let a 1401 00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:51,190 ages, right at the beginning, they let a lot of kids out of that school for 1402 00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:51,200 lot of kids out of that school for 1403 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,510 lot of kids out of that school for disabled that whose parents were further 1404 00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:53,520 disabled that whose parents were further 1405 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,149 disabled that whose parents were further away from the city, maybe in villages or 1406 00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:56,159 away from the city, maybe in villages or 1407 00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:57,750 away from the city, maybe in villages or towns away. And he happened to be from 1408 00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:57,760 towns away. And he happened to be from 1409 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,029 towns away. And he happened to be from Kalenovique, which is a basically a town 1410 00:28:01,029 --> 00:28:01,039 Kalenovique, which is a basically a town 1411 00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:03,909 Kalenovique, which is a basically a town that's an hour away from Sievo. He was 1412 00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:03,919 that's an hour away from Sievo. He was 1413 00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:05,750 that's an hour away from Sievo. He was under Serb control, all right, at that 1414 00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:05,760 under Serb control, all right, at that 1415 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,990 under Serb control, all right, at that time. and he went back to his mom and 1416 00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:08,000 time. and he went back to his mom and 1417 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,350 time. and he went back to his mom and his mom was this Bosnian Serb woman and 1418 00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:11,360 his mom was this Bosnian Serb woman and 1419 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:14,070 his mom was this Bosnian Serb woman and his dad was a Bosnian Serb crot and he 1420 00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:14,080 his dad was a Bosnian Serb crot and he 1421 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,549 his dad was a Bosnian Serb crot and he was born out of wedlock 1422 00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:16,559 was born out of wedlock 1423 00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:18,950 was born out of wedlock and his father and mother had separated 1424 00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:18,960 and his father and mother had separated 1425 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,029 and his father and mother had separated and he went back to his mother's house 1426 00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:21,039 and he went back to his mother's house 1427 00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:22,950 and he went back to his mother's house and when Serbs showed up and started to 1428 00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:22,960 and when Serbs showed up and started to 1429 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,510 and when Serbs showed up and started to organize in Kalanovik meaning to get all 1430 00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:25,520 organize in Kalanovik meaning to get all 1431 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,190 organize in Kalanovik meaning to get all the local Serbs to join the Serb 1432 00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:27,200 the local Serbs to join the Serb 1433 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,190 the local Serbs to join the Serb extremist forces 1434 00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:29,200 extremist forces 1435 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,510 extremist forces they came to her and she agreed to join 1436 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:31,520 they came to her and she agreed to join 1437 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,549 they came to her and she agreed to join them I believe as a nurse in that case 1438 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:34,559 them I believe as a nurse in that case 1439 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:37,269 them I believe as a nurse in that case and uh as part of that because they were 1440 00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:37,279 and uh as part of that because they were 1441 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:39,669 and uh as part of that because they were doubtful of her. She was they were like, 1442 00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:39,679 doubtful of her. She was they were like, 1443 00:28:39,679 --> 00:28:42,950 doubtful of her. She was they were like, "You had sex and produced a child with 1444 00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:42,960 "You had sex and produced a child with 1445 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,110 "You had sex and produced a child with somebody who's not a Serb. You need to 1446 00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:45,120 somebody who's not a Serb. You need to 1447 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,990 somebody who's not a Serb. You need to prove yourself that you are loyal to the 1448 00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:48,000 prove yourself that you are loyal to the 1449 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,669 prove yourself that you are loyal to the Serbs." So, she actually ended up 1450 00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:49,679 Serbs." So, she actually ended up 1451 00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:51,110 Serbs." So, she actually ended up telling them, "You could take my 1452 00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:51,120 telling them, "You could take my 1453 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,389 telling them, "You could take my disabled child and take him away. That's 1454 00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:54,399 disabled child and take him away. That's 1455 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:55,990 disabled child and take him away. That's going to be my way of proving my 1456 00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:56,000 going to be my way of proving my 1457 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,990 going to be my way of proving my loyalty." So, you have to understand how 1458 00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:58,000 loyalty." So, you have to understand how 1459 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,990 loyalty." So, you have to understand how deeply entrenched that ideology is to 1460 00:28:59,990 --> 00:29:00,000 deeply entrenched that ideology is to 1461 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,230 deeply entrenched that ideology is to get somebody to do that. Mhm. 1462 00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:02,240 get somebody to do that. Mhm. 1463 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,470 get somebody to do that. Mhm. >> And not it was it wasn't like that she 1464 00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:04,480 >> And not it was it wasn't like that she 1465 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,710 >> And not it was it wasn't like that she was a straight psychopath. 1466 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:06,720 was a straight psychopath. 1467 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,389 was a straight psychopath. Uh that just shows you just how 1468 00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:08,399 Uh that just shows you just how 1469 00:29:08,399 --> 00:29:09,990 Uh that just shows you just how brainwashed people get and what they're 1470 00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:10,000 brainwashed people get and what they're 1471 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,389 brainwashed people get and what they're willing to do and and that is a story 1472 00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:12,399 willing to do and and that is a story 1473 00:29:12,399 --> 00:29:14,789 willing to do and and that is a story I've heard thousands of times during the 1474 00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:14,799 I've heard thousands of times during the 1475 00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:16,870 I've heard thousands of times during the last 1476 00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:16,880 last 1477 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,590 last there's also another story that this one 1478 00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:19,600 there's also another story that this one 1479 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,590 there's also another story that this one I is the one I particularly shared that 1480 00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:21,600 I is the one I particularly shared that 1481 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,710 I is the one I particularly shared that you talk about where you had a mass 1482 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:24,720 you talk about where you had a mass 1483 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:32,149 you talk about where you had a mass grave in Sanski Mos and of 124 men uh 1484 00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:32,159 grave in Sanski Mos and of 124 men uh 1485 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:34,789 grave in Sanski Mos and of 124 men uh that were thrown into this woods like a 1486 00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:34,799 that were thrown into this woods like a 1487 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,909 that were thrown into this woods like a hole but not Not only did they uncover 1488 00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:37,919 hole but not Not only did they uncover 1489 00:29:37,919 --> 00:29:40,149 hole but not Not only did they uncover those later because of a survivor, you 1490 00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:40,159 those later because of a survivor, you 1491 00:29:40,159 --> 00:29:43,830 those later because of a survivor, you had bones dating back to like 1944. 1492 00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:43,840 had bones dating back to like 1944. 1493 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,830 had bones dating back to like 1944. There was a before that that happened. 1494 00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:45,840 There was a before that that happened. 1495 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,230 There was a before that that happened. Can you just summarize that story and 1496 00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:48,240 Can you just summarize that story and 1497 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,029 Can you just summarize that story and where that happened? 1498 00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:49,039 where that happened? 1499 00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:49,510 where that happened? >> Yes. 1500 00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:49,520 >> Yes. 1501 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,149 >> Yes. >> And then one key one key thing I really 1502 00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:52,159 >> And then one key one key thing I really 1503 00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:54,070 >> And then one key one key thing I really want people to really reflect the 1504 00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:54,080 want people to really reflect the 1505 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,990 want people to really reflect the perpetrators you talk about, they're 1506 00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:56,000 perpetrators you talk about, they're 1507 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,230 perpetrators you talk about, they're still roaming around free. 1508 00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:58,240 still roaming around free. 1509 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,389 still roaming around free. >> Yes. As they did during Yugoslavia. 1510 00:30:00,389 --> 00:30:00,399 >> Yes. As they did during Yugoslavia. 1511 00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:01,909 >> Yes. As they did during Yugoslavia. That's the thing. During Yugoslavia in 1512 00:30:01,909 --> 00:30:01,919 That's the thing. During Yugoslavia in 1513 00:30:01,919 --> 00:30:03,750 That's the thing. During Yugoslavia in between the attitude. 1514 00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:03,760 between the attitude. 1515 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,990 between the attitude. So this is another story that sounds 1516 00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:06,000 So this is another story that sounds 1517 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,590 So this is another story that sounds crazy. It actually happened but 1518 00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:07,600 crazy. It actually happened but 1519 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,870 crazy. It actually happened but basically uh they took a group of men 1520 00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:10,880 basically uh they took a group of men 1521 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,909 basically uh they took a group of men from Omar concentration camp in Pedor 1522 00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:13,919 from Omar concentration camp in Pedor 1523 00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:15,750 from Omar concentration camp in Pedor and they took them to an execution site 1524 00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:15,760 and they took them to an execution site 1525 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,430 and they took them to an execution site which is close to Sanskos a different 1526 00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:17,440 which is close to Sanskos a different 1527 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,350 which is close to Sanskos a different town and they executed in there and then 1528 00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:21,360 town and they executed in there and then 1529 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,430 town and they executed in there and then some years later somebody gave away the 1530 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:23,440 some years later somebody gave away the 1531 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,590 some years later somebody gave away the location. So they it was actually a 1532 00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:25,600 location. So they it was actually a 1533 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,669 location. So they it was actually a survivor that had lived long enough to 1534 00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:27,679 survivor that had lived long enough to 1535 00:30:27,679 --> 00:30:29,830 survivor that had lived long enough to tell the story and then somebody was 1536 00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:29,840 tell the story and then somebody was 1537 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,669 tell the story and then somebody was able to kind of coordinate that story to 1538 00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:31,679 able to kind of coordinate that story to 1539 00:30:31,679 --> 00:30:33,269 able to kind of coordinate that story to a particular spot. So they found this 1540 00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:33,279 a particular spot. So they found this 1541 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:35,110 a particular spot. So they found this this mass grave. So they found all these 1542 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:35,120 this mass grave. So they found all these 1543 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,870 this mass grave. So they found all these bodies and it there's actually horrific 1544 00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:36,880 bodies and it there's actually horrific 1545 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,750 bodies and it there's actually horrific image of it. You could see where it's a 1546 00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:39,760 image of it. You could see where it's a 1547 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,750 image of it. You could see where it's a room full of bones because it was in a 1548 00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:41,760 room full of bones because it was in a 1549 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,310 room full of bones because it was in a little cavern that it got thrown in from 1550 00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:44,320 little cavern that it got thrown in from 1551 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,029 little cavern that it got thrown in from the top. So it was just a pile of bones 1552 00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:47,039 the top. So it was just a pile of bones 1553 00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:50,070 the top. So it was just a pile of bones at the bottom. And when they took all 1554 00:30:50,070 --> 00:30:50,080 at the bottom. And when they took all 1555 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,950 at the bottom. And when they took all these bones out, two of the skeletons 1556 00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:52,960 these bones out, two of the skeletons 1557 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,190 these bones out, two of the skeletons were very odd. Like their bones were 1558 00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:55,200 were very odd. Like their bones were 1559 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,110 were very odd. Like their bones were very porous. They didn't look right to 1560 00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:57,120 very porous. They didn't look right to 1561 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,950 very porous. They didn't look right to to the investigators. So they found out 1562 00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:58,960 to the investigators. So they found out 1563 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,870 to the investigators. So they found out that these two were actually two 1564 00:31:00,870 --> 00:31:00,880 that these two were actually two 1565 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,909 that these two were actually two Bosnjaks executed that went missing but 1566 00:31:03,909 --> 00:31:03,919 Bosnjaks executed that went missing but 1567 00:31:03,919 --> 00:31:07,269 Bosnjaks executed that went missing but were executed there in 1943 I believe. 1568 00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:07,279 were executed there in 1943 I believe. 1569 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:10,870 were executed there in 1943 I believe. And uh so what's the story there? The 1570 00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:10,880 And uh so what's the story there? The 1571 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,710 And uh so what's the story there? The locals in in the 1940s also were 1572 00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:14,720 locals in in the 1940s also were 1573 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,950 locals in in the 1940s also were conducting a genocide of the Bosnjaks 1574 00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:16,960 conducting a genocide of the Bosnjaks 1575 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,269 conducting a genocide of the Bosnjaks and they these two men and kept it a 1576 00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:19,279 and they these two men and kept it a 1577 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:22,230 and they these two men and kept it a secret for 48 years. Nobody knew that 1578 00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:22,240 secret for 48 years. Nobody knew that 1579 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,990 secret for 48 years. Nobody knew that they were thrown into those into that 1580 00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:24,000 they were thrown into those into that 1581 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,870 they were thrown into those into that cavern. And then in 1992 when they 1582 00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:26,880 cavern. And then in 1992 when they 1583 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,230 cavern. And then in 1992 when they continued they resumed the the same 1584 00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:30,240 continued they resumed the the same 1585 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,269 continued they resumed the the same locals told the Serb army we have this 1586 00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:33,279 locals told the Serb army we have this 1587 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:36,070 locals told the Serb army we have this great location for you guys to execute a 1588 00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:36,080 great location for you guys to execute a 1589 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,549 great location for you guys to execute a large amount of people and they knew 1590 00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:38,559 large amount of people and they knew 1591 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:41,590 large amount of people and they knew that because they two people 48 years 1592 00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:41,600 that because they two people 48 years 1593 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,750 that because they two people 48 years earlier and not a single person out of 1594 00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:43,760 earlier and not a single person out of 1595 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,190 earlier and not a single person out of that village that was near that 1596 00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:45,200 that village that was near that 1597 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,669 that village that was near that execution site had ever spoken up about 1598 00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:47,679 execution site had ever spoken up about 1599 00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:49,269 execution site had ever spoken up about it or let anybody know that those two 1600 00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:49,279 it or let anybody know that those two 1601 00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:52,230 it or let anybody know that those two bodies were in it. So in 1992 they 1602 00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:52,240 bodies were in it. So in 1992 they 1603 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,750 bodies were in it. So in 1992 they execute 14 124 more people and then in 1604 00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:55,760 execute 14 124 more people and then in 1605 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,909 execute 14 124 more people and then in 1998 they pull all those bodies out and 1606 00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:57,919 1998 they pull all those bodies out and 1607 00:31:57,919 --> 00:31:59,669 1998 they pull all those bodies out and realize that this is actually a sheer 1608 00:31:59,669 --> 00:31:59,679 realize that this is actually a sheer 1609 00:31:59,679 --> 00:32:03,430 realize that this is actually a sheer massive mass grave between two. But 1610 00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:03,440 massive mass grave between two. But 1611 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,830 massive mass grave between two. But what's in common? What's in common is 1612 00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:05,840 what's in common? What's in common is 1613 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,230 what's in common? What's in common is the perpetrators. What's also in common 1614 00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:08,240 the perpetrators. What's also in common 1615 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,549 the perpetrators. What's also in common is the victims. Perpetrators there 1616 00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:10,559 is the victims. Perpetrators there 1617 00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:12,230 is the victims. Perpetrators there Serbic extremists. The victims are 1618 00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:12,240 Serbic extremists. The victims are 1619 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,590 Serbic extremists. The victims are Bosnjaks. 1620 00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:13,600 Bosnjaks. 1621 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,909 Bosnjaks. >> Where was this located this town? What 1622 00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:15,919 >> Where was this located this town? What 1623 00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:18,950 >> Where was this located this town? What is it called? So Sanski Mos is the 1624 00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:18,960 is it called? So Sanski Mos is the 1625 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,470 is it called? So Sanski Mos is the region where 1626 00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:20,480 region where 1627 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,789 region where >> is where this grave is in. But there's a 1628 00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:22,799 >> is where this grave is in. But there's a 1629 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:24,470 >> is where this grave is in. But there's a little village called Pod Vidacha which 1630 00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:24,480 little village called Pod Vidacha which 1631 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,230 little village called Pod Vidacha which is avid 1632 00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:26,240 is avid 1633 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,149 is avid >> a little Serb village that have been a 1634 00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:28,159 >> a little Serb village that have been a 1635 00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:30,870 >> a little Serb village that have been a Serb village for a long time. And they 1636 00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:30,880 Serb village for a long time. And they 1637 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,789 Serb village for a long time. And they uh basically had quote unquote 1638 00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:32,799 uh basically had quote unquote 1639 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,029 uh basically had quote unquote ethnically cleansed. I don't like that 1640 00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:35,039 ethnically cleansed. I don't like that 1641 00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,029 ethnically cleansed. I don't like that term ethnically cleansed. That's what 1642 00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:37,039 term ethnically cleansed. That's what 1643 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:40,070 term ethnically cleansed. That's what they like to say. They the Bosnjaks out 1644 00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:40,080 they like to say. They the Bosnjaks out 1645 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,789 they like to say. They the Bosnjaks out of that region mostly 1940s. 1646 00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:42,799 of that region mostly 1940s. 1647 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:44,789 of that region mostly 1940s. But they kept all the secrets a lot of 1648 00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:44,799 But they kept all the secrets a lot of 1649 00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:46,950 But they kept all the secrets a lot of that meaning they did not share where 1650 00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:46,960 that meaning they did not share where 1651 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,789 that meaning they did not share where they disposed the bodies. So we now 1652 00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:48,799 they disposed the bodies. So we now 1653 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:50,389 they disposed the bodies. So we now found out one of those places. 1654 00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:50,399 found out one of those places. 1655 00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:51,909 found out one of those places. >> Help us understand where is this? Is 1656 00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:51,919 >> Help us understand where is this? Is 1657 00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:54,870 >> Help us understand where is this? Is this by Fcha? Is this by Gage? Where is 1658 00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:54,880 this by Fcha? Is this by Gage? Where is 1659 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,230 this by Fcha? Is this by Gage? Where is this uh this town? 1660 00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:56,240 this uh this town? 1661 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,110 this uh this town? >> This is in so this Sanskimos area is 1662 00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:59,120 >> This is in so this Sanskimos area is 1663 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,110 >> This is in so this Sanskimos area is basically in the very northwest of 1664 00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:01,120 basically in the very northwest of 1665 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,750 basically in the very northwest of Bosnia. So in Kina which is the region 1666 00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:03,760 Bosnia. So in Kina which is the region 1667 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,830 Bosnia. So in Kina which is the region on the very 1668 00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:05,840 on the very 1669 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,669 on the very >> towards which way is it? 1670 00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:07,679 >> towards which way is it? 1671 00:33:07,679 --> 00:33:09,350 >> towards which way is it? >> Towards Croatia. So if you look at the 1672 00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:09,360 >> Towards Croatia. So if you look at the 1673 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,149 >> Towards Croatia. So if you look at the Basian map, west is towards Croatia, 1674 00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:12,159 Basian map, west is towards Croatia, 1675 00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:16,549 Basian map, west is towards Croatia, east is towards Serbia. So the 1940s and 1676 00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:16,559 east is towards Serbia. So the 1940s and 1677 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:19,190 east is towards Serbia. So the 1940s and the 1990s happened in all those regions. 1678 00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:19,200 the 1990s happened in all those regions. 1679 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,509 the 1990s happened in all those regions. It happened in China on the in the west, 1680 00:33:21,509 --> 00:33:21,519 It happened in China on the in the west, 1681 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:23,350 It happened in China on the in the west, in the north, in the east and in the 1682 00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:23,360 in the north, in the east and in the 1683 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,190 in the north, in the east and in the south. Same regions that were in 1940s 1684 00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:27,200 south. Same regions that were in 1940s 1685 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,029 south. Same regions that were in 1940s were again in 1990 1686 00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:29,039 were again in 1990 1687 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:30,789 were again in 1990 >> because people often what just passed 1688 00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:30,799 >> because people often what just passed 1689 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:33,509 >> because people often what just passed the July 11th remembrance of so people 1690 00:33:33,509 --> 00:33:33,519 the July 11th remembrance of so people 1691 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:35,269 the July 11th remembrance of so people uh who don't know they restricted just 1692 00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:35,279 uh who don't know they restricted just 1693 00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:36,870 uh who don't know they restricted just to that. But you just mentioned there's 1694 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:36,880 to that. But you just mentioned there's 1695 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,509 to that. But you just mentioned there's like all over it was happening. 1696 00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:39,519 like all over it was happening. 1697 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:43,509 like all over it was happening. >> Yes. So before before 78 ever happened 1698 00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:43,519 >> Yes. So before before 78 ever happened 1699 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:46,789 >> Yes. So before before 78 ever happened >> 23,000 people had already been executed 1700 00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:46,799 >> 23,000 people had already been executed 1701 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,110 >> 23,000 people had already been executed across the whole country. So in other 1702 00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:49,120 across the whole country. So in other 1703 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,710 across the whole country. So in other words started in April on April 1st of 1704 00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:52,720 words started in April on April 1st of 1705 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,389 words started in April on April 1st of 1992 1706 00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:54,399 1992 1707 00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:58,470 1992 is when Bina was attacked and 1708 00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:58,480 is when Bina was attacked and 1709 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,590 is when Bina was attacked and so once that attack happened the attacks 1710 00:34:01,590 --> 00:34:01,600 so once that attack happened the attacks 1711 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,750 so once that attack happened the attacks began across the entire country where 1712 00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:03,760 began across the entire country where 1713 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,430 began across the entire country where they put essentially villages under 1714 00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:05,440 they put essentially villages under 1715 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,990 they put essentially villages under siege and started eradicating village by 1716 00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:08,000 siege and started eradicating village by 1717 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,069 siege and started eradicating village by village and people were forced to flee 1718 00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:10,079 village and people were forced to flee 1719 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:11,510 village and people were forced to flee and people that survived were people 1720 00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:11,520 and people that survived were people 1721 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,349 and people that survived were people that were able to flee across mountains 1722 00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:13,359 that were able to flee across mountains 1723 00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:17,030 that were able to flee across mountains and and and forests and so on. Thousands 1724 00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:17,040 and and and forests and so on. Thousands 1725 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,430 and and and forests and so on. Thousands of people flee that way. For example, in 1726 00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:19,440 of people flee that way. For example, in 1727 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,909 of people flee that way. For example, in Kina, which is close to uh where this 1728 00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:21,919 Kina, which is close to uh where this 1729 00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:25,589 Kina, which is close to uh where this story took place with 124 executed men, 1730 00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:25,599 story took place with 124 executed men, 1731 00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:28,310 story took place with 124 executed men, they all hid into Bhaj. Bhaj was a 1732 00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:28,320 they all hid into Bhaj. Bhaj was a 1733 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,030 they all hid into Bhaj. Bhaj was a little town uh basically next to 1734 00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:31,040 little town uh basically next to 1735 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,589 little town uh basically next to Croatian border and that town was put 1736 00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:33,599 Croatian border and that town was put 1737 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:35,270 Croatian border and that town was put under siege. And the reason why people 1738 00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:35,280 under siege. And the reason why people 1739 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,950 under siege. And the reason why people in it survived is because the siege 1740 00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:36,960 in it survived is because the siege 1741 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,869 in it survived is because the siege didn't collapse. If the siege had 1742 00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:38,879 didn't collapse. If the siege had 1743 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:40,710 didn't collapse. If the siege had collapsed, we're talking tens of 1744 00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:40,720 collapsed, we're talking tens of 1745 00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:42,950 collapsed, we're talking tens of thousands of people dead there. Sieo had 1746 00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:42,960 thousands of people dead there. Sieo had 1747 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,550 thousands of people dead there. Sieo had several hundred thousand people under 1748 00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:44,560 several hundred thousand people under 1749 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,550 several hundred thousand people under siege. If that fell, that's hundreds of 1750 00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:46,560 siege. If that fell, that's hundreds of 1751 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,550 siege. If that fell, that's hundreds of thousands of people dead right there. 1752 00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:48,560 thousands of people dead right there. 1753 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,190 thousands of people dead right there. >> Monstar was under siege. If Monar siege 1754 00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:51,200 >> Monstar was under siege. If Monar siege 1755 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,669 >> Monstar was under siege. If Monar siege fell, that would have been 100,000 1756 00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:53,679 fell, that would have been 100,000 1757 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,190 fell, that would have been 100,000 people right there. So, we have to 1758 00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:55,200 people right there. So, we have to 1759 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,550 people right there. So, we have to understand that the reason why numbers 1760 00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:56,560 understand that the reason why numbers 1761 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,550 understand that the reason why numbers are even not much higher is because 1762 00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:58,560 are even not much higher is because 1763 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,470 are even not much higher is because those people fought for their very lives 1764 00:35:00,470 --> 00:35:00,480 those people fought for their very lives 1765 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,470 those people fought for their very lives under siege in order to survive. 1766 00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:02,480 under siege in order to survive. 1767 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,150 under siege in order to survive. >> Do you know anything about the t town 1768 00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:04,160 >> Do you know anything about the t town 1769 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,494 >> Do you know anything about the t town called Chinicha? 1770 00:35:06,494 --> 00:35:06,504 called Chinicha? 1771 00:35:06,504 --> 00:35:06,550 called Chinicha? [clears throat] 1772 00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:06,560 [clears throat] 1773 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,349 [clears throat] >> Of course. Chiniche is a little town 1774 00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:09,359 >> Of course. Chiniche is a little town 1775 00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:12,310 >> Of course. Chiniche is a little town between Fcha. Technically, if you draw a 1776 00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:12,320 between Fcha. Technically, if you draw a 1777 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,829 between Fcha. Technically, if you draw a line, it's between Fchae and Vishagrad. 1778 00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:15,839 line, it's between Fchae and Vishagrad. 1779 00:35:15,839 --> 00:35:18,310 line, it's between Fchae and Vishagrad. And Chiniche was a little town that was 1780 00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:18,320 And Chiniche was a little town that was 1781 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,630 And Chiniche was a little town that was in 1940s and was then again in 1990s. 1782 00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:22,640 in 1940s and was then again in 1990s. 1783 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,790 in 1940s and was then again in 1990s. Actually, quite effectively, I think not 1784 00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:24,800 Actually, quite effectively, I think not 1785 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,190 Actually, quite effectively, I think not a single Bosnjak had remained in China, 1786 00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:27,200 a single Bosnjak had remained in China, 1787 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,190 a single Bosnjak had remained in China, I believe, after 1992. So, they were 1788 00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:29,200 I believe, after 1992. So, they were 1789 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,230 I believe, after 1992. So, they were pretty much entirely those that survived 1790 00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:32,240 pretty much entirely those that survived 1791 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,230 pretty much entirely those that survived escaped out of China on foot in the 1792 00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:34,240 escaped out of China on foot in the 1793 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,390 escaped out of China on foot in the forests and ended up making their way to 1794 00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:36,400 forests and ended up making their way to 1795 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,630 forests and ended up making their way to uh if I'm not mistaken, Gage. [snorts] 1796 00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:38,640 uh if I'm not mistaken, Gage. [snorts] 1797 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,230 uh if I'm not mistaken, Gage. [snorts] So again, the reason why they survived, 1798 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:40,240 So again, the reason why they survived, 1799 00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:41,910 So again, the reason why they survived, the few that survived is they made their 1800 00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:41,920 the few that survived is they made their 1801 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,630 the few that survived is they made their way to uh under siege city managed to 1802 00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:44,640 way to uh under siege city managed to 1803 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,150 way to uh under siege city managed to break through the siege from the other 1804 00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:46,160 break through the siege from the other 1805 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,870 break through the siege from the other end and and save their lives that way. 1806 00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:48,880 end and and save their lives that way. 1807 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,829 end and and save their lives that way. So yeah, China is one of many many 1808 00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:51,839 So yeah, China is one of many many 1809 00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:53,990 So yeah, China is one of many many hundreds of towns that could. 1810 00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:54,000 hundreds of towns that could. 1811 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,190 hundreds of towns that could. >> Now I'm going to show you this next 1812 00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:55,200 >> Now I'm going to show you this next 1813 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,950 >> Now I'm going to show you this next video and I'm surprised it's still up. 1814 00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:56,960 video and I'm surprised it's still up. 1815 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,790 video and I'm surprised it's still up. It's been viewed, I believe, over 5 1816 00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:58,800 It's been viewed, I believe, over 5 1817 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,910 It's been viewed, I believe, over 5 million times. And I want people to just 1818 00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:01,920 million times. And I want people to just 1819 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,750 million times. And I want people to just picture if this video was talking about 1820 00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:05,760 picture if this video was talking about 1821 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,550 picture if this video was talking about the people who were exterminated by the 1822 00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:10,560 the people who were exterminated by the 1823 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,870 the people who were exterminated by the Nazis and praising the Nazis of that 1824 00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:12,880 Nazis and praising the Nazis of that 1825 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,109 Nazis and praising the Nazis of that time. [snorts] What would happen with 1826 00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:15,119 time. [snorts] What would happen with 1827 00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,030 time. [snorts] What would happen with this video? And I want to get your take 1828 00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:17,040 this video? And I want to get your take 1829 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,470 this video? And I want to get your take on this. See if you've uh listened to 1830 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:18,480 on this. See if you've uh listened to 1831 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,710 on this. See if you've uh listened to this before. You could translate it. And 1832 00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:20,720 this before. You could translate it. And 1833 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:22,790 this before. You could translate it. And it goes into this ideology and this 1834 00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:22,800 it goes into this ideology and this 1835 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,030 it goes into this ideology and this boldness. It's it's really disturbing. 1836 00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:27,040 boldness. It's it's really disturbing. 1837 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,910 boldness. It's it's really disturbing. >> What were they saying for people that 1838 00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:29,920 >> What were they saying for people that 1839 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,990 >> What were they saying for people that It's basically a song that was made post 1840 00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:34,000 It's basically a song that was made post 1841 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,829 It's basically a song that was made post and the song says uh proudly my dad is a 1842 00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:37,839 and the song says uh proudly my dad is a 1843 00:36:37,839 --> 00:36:39,910 and the song says uh proudly my dad is a war criminal. So he's saying this is a 1844 00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:39,920 war criminal. So he's saying this is a 1845 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,910 war criminal. So he's saying this is a Serb extremist saying my dad is a war 1846 00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:41,920 Serb extremist saying my dad is a war 1847 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,870 Serb extremist saying my dad is a war criminal and nobody has the balls to 1848 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:44,880 criminal and nobody has the balls to 1849 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,190 criminal and nobody has the balls to take him to court and basically they're 1850 00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:47,200 take him to court and basically they're 1851 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,950 take him to court and basically they're saying with impunity come take him to 1852 00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:48,960 saying with impunity come take him to 1853 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,310 saying with impunity come take him to court. Go ahead. Come on come come on 1854 00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:50,320 court. Go ahead. Come on come come on 1855 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,750 court. Go ahead. Come on come come on over. Essentially we're very proud of 1856 00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:51,760 over. Essentially we're very proud of 1857 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,270 over. Essentially we're very proud of everything we did. We like the fact that 1858 00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:53,280 everything we did. We like the fact that 1859 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,589 everything we did. We like the fact that we raped and killed and murdered and and 1860 00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:55,599 we raped and killed and murdered and and 1861 00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:58,150 we raped and killed and murdered and and you know threw babies into caverns which 1862 00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:58,160 you know threw babies into caverns which 1863 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,390 you know threw babies into caverns which is what happened in Bosnia and come on 1864 00:37:00,390 --> 00:37:00,400 is what happened in Bosnia and come on 1865 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,390 is what happened in Bosnia and come on come on come and come and grab us and 1866 00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:02,400 come on come and come and grab us and 1867 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,910 come on come and come and grab us and take us to court if we got the you know 1868 00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:03,920 take us to court if we got the you know 1869 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,630 take us to court if we got the you know the balls to do that but um that is 1870 00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:06,640 the balls to do that but um that is 1871 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,390 the balls to do that but um that is really comes to uh symbolize the entire 1872 00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:10,400 really comes to uh symbolize the entire 1873 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,470 really comes to uh symbolize the entire impunity right and ideology that's 1874 00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:12,480 impunity right and ideology that's 1875 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,670 impunity right and ideology that's happening there which is that they were 1876 00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:13,680 happening there which is that they were 1877 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,670 happening there which is that they were never really punished for what they did. 1878 00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:15,680 never really punished for what they did. 1879 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,829 never really punished for what they did. the punishment was very uh let's just 1880 00:37:17,829 --> 00:37:17,839 the punishment was very uh let's just 1881 00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:20,150 the punishment was very uh let's just say a slap in the wrist in the context 1882 00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:20,160 say a slap in the wrist in the context 1883 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,550 say a slap in the wrist in the context of the and they're now saying uh well 1884 00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:22,560 of the and they're now saying uh well 1885 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,990 of the and they're now saying uh well now that we can get away with all that 1886 00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:24,000 now that we can get away with all that 1887 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,310 now that we can get away with all that we did you know we'd love to do it again 1888 00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:26,320 we did you know we'd love to do it again 1889 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,790 we did you know we'd love to do it again and they will try to do it again I was 1890 00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:28,800 and they will try to do it again I was 1891 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,349 and they will try to do it again I was sitting with a person who is u bringing 1892 00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:31,359 sitting with a person who is u bringing 1893 00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:33,670 sitting with a person who is u bringing the story to light you talked about it 1894 00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:33,680 the story to light you talked about it 1895 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,230 the story to light you talked about it and reminded me it was a few weeks back 1896 00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:36,240 and reminded me it was a few weeks back 1897 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,630 and reminded me it was a few weeks back actually last month and he's actually 1898 00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:38,640 actually last month and he's actually 1899 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,190 actually last month and he's actually from the town of Arnold Schwarzenegger 1900 00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:41,200 from the town of Arnold Schwarzenegger 1901 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,030 from the town of Arnold Schwarzenegger what was his friend that Arnold 1902 00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:43,040 what was his friend that Arnold 1903 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,990 what was his friend that Arnold Schwarzenegger considered this man 1904 00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:46,000 Schwarzenegger considered this man 1905 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,349 Schwarzenegger considered this man I believe his name was Fikaret. And the 1906 00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:49,359 I believe his name was Fikaret. And the 1907 00:37:49,359 --> 00:37:50,710 I believe his name was Fikaret. And the person that was telling me about the 1908 00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:50,720 person that was telling me about the 1909 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,069 person that was telling me about the story, he wanted to create awareness of 1910 00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:52,079 story, he wanted to create awareness of 1911 00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:53,349 story, he wanted to create awareness of it and he was bringing it to my 1912 00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:53,359 it and he was bringing it to my 1913 00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:55,349 it and he was bringing it to my attention. Then I saw you talking about 1914 00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:55,359 attention. Then I saw you talking about 1915 00:37:55,359 --> 00:37:56,870 attention. Then I saw you talking about it. Can you talk about Arnold 1916 00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:56,880 it. Can you talk about Arnold 1917 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,030 it. Can you talk about Arnold Schwarzenegger's friend and what 1918 00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:59,040 Schwarzenegger's friend and what 1919 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,030 Schwarzenegger's friend and what happened to him 1920 00:38:01,030 --> 00:38:01,040 happened to him 1921 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,069 happened to him in the town of 1922 00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:04,079 in the town of 1923 00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:06,870 in the town of >> So this was basically a guy born in 1924 00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:06,880 >> So this was basically a guy born in 1925 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,430 >> So this was basically a guy born in Keani which is in Pedor in Bosnia which 1926 00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:09,440 Keani which is in Pedor in Bosnia which 1927 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,550 Keani which is in Pedor in Bosnia which is also an area in uh the northwest side 1928 00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:12,560 is also an area in uh the northwest side 1929 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,310 is also an area in uh the northwest side of Bosnia close to Sanskos where the 1930 00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:14,320 of Bosnia close to Sanskos where the 1931 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,109 of Bosnia close to Sanskos where the other event happened. Uh so he was 1932 00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:17,119 other event happened. Uh so he was 1933 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:19,430 other event happened. Uh so he was actually a one of the most successful 1934 00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:19,440 actually a one of the most successful 1935 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,910 actually a one of the most successful athletes in ex Yugoslavia. People that 1936 00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:21,920 athletes in ex Yugoslavia. People that 1937 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,349 athletes in ex Yugoslavia. People that don't know Bosnia was part of 1938 00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:23,359 don't know Bosnia was part of 1939 00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:25,750 don't know Bosnia was part of Yugoslavia. was unified into this larger 1940 00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:25,760 Yugoslavia. was unified into this larger 1941 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,790 Yugoslavia. was unified into this larger country after World War II. Uh, and he 1942 00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:28,800 country after World War II. Uh, and he 1943 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,310 country after World War II. Uh, and he was one of the biggest athletes. He was 1944 00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:30,320 was one of the biggest athletes. He was 1945 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,990 was one of the biggest athletes. He was actually the bodybuilding champion of 1946 00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:32,000 actually the bodybuilding champion of 1947 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,910 actually the bodybuilding champion of Yugoslavia for 15 years straight. I 1948 00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:33,920 Yugoslavia for 15 years straight. I 1949 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,430 Yugoslavia for 15 years straight. I think between 1976 and 1991, 1950 00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:37,440 think between 1976 and 1991, 1951 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,870 think between 1976 and 1991, he had held that title and he was also 1952 00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:40,880 he had held that title and he was also 1953 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,030 he had held that title and he was also competing internationally and he had he 1954 00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:43,040 competing internationally and he had he 1955 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,510 competing internationally and he had he was third place Mr. Universe and anybody 1956 00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:45,520 was third place Mr. Universe and anybody 1957 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,030 was third place Mr. Universe and anybody that knows about Mr. universe is the 1958 00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:47,040 that knows about Mr. universe is the 1959 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,430 that knows about Mr. universe is the largest bodybuilding uh prize in the 1960 00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:49,440 largest bodybuilding uh prize in the 1961 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,390 largest bodybuilding uh prize in the world and it's the one that 1962 00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:50,400 world and it's the one that 1963 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,430 world and it's the one that Schwarzenegger had won several times 1964 00:38:53,430 --> 00:38:53,440 Schwarzenegger had won several times 1965 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,870 Schwarzenegger had won several times and it's actually what made him famous 1966 00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:54,880 and it's actually what made him famous 1967 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,349 and it's actually what made him famous as a young man and when uh Fikret was 1968 00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:59,359 as a young man and when uh Fikret was 1969 00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:00,870 as a young man and when uh Fikret was competing for those titles 1970 00:39:00,870 --> 00:39:00,880 competing for those titles 1971 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,430 competing for those titles internationally eventually he met Arnold 1972 00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:03,440 internationally eventually he met Arnold 1973 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,670 internationally eventually he met Arnold Schwarzenegger and they became friends 1974 00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:05,680 Schwarzenegger and they became friends 1975 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,069 Schwarzenegger and they became friends and actually when Fikrret was killed in 1976 00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:08,079 and actually when Fikrret was killed in 1977 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:10,790 and actually when Fikrret was killed in Pedor in 1992 was actually executed by 1978 00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:10,800 Pedor in 1992 was actually executed by 1979 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,710 Pedor in 1992 was actually executed by some of his own students from his from 1980 00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:12,720 some of his own students from his from 1981 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:15,910 some of his own students from his from his uh bodybuilding gym Uh 1982 00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:15,920 his uh bodybuilding gym Uh 1983 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,710 his uh bodybuilding gym Uh Schwarzenegger heard about the death of 1984 00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:18,720 Schwarzenegger heard about the death of 1985 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:21,190 Schwarzenegger heard about the death of Figret and he sent this letter pretty 1986 00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:21,200 Figret and he sent this letter pretty 1987 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,589 Figret and he sent this letter pretty much right away to his wife really to 1988 00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:23,599 much right away to his wife really to 1989 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:28,310 much right away to his wife really to his child to his son uh Je uh and he 1990 00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:28,320 his child to his son uh Je uh and he 1991 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,630 his child to his son uh Je uh and he wrote to him essentially he wanted to 1992 00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:30,640 wrote to him essentially he wanted to 1993 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,109 wrote to him essentially he wanted to encourage him not to give up cuz he knew 1994 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:33,119 encourage him not to give up cuz he knew 1995 00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:35,349 encourage him not to give up cuz he knew what this meant that his father died and 1996 00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:35,359 what this meant that his father died and 1997 00:39:35,359 --> 00:39:37,109 what this meant that his father died and that his family would have to rebuild 1998 00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:37,119 that his family would have to rebuild 1999 00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,190 that his family would have to rebuild from scratch. So there's this letter, 2000 00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:39,200 from scratch. So there's this letter, 2001 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,829 from scratch. So there's this letter, you can read it, uh it's online, where 2002 00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:41,839 you can read it, uh it's online, where 2003 00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:43,829 you can read it, uh it's online, where he encouraged them not to give up and to 2004 00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:43,839 he encouraged them not to give up and to 2005 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:45,829 he encouraged them not to give up and to have a constructive life and to take 2006 00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:45,839 have a constructive life and to take 2007 00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:47,510 have a constructive life and to take care of his mother, which is 2008 00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:47,520 care of his mother, which is 2009 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,349 care of his mother, which is unfortunately what happened with a lot 2010 00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:49,359 unfortunately what happened with a lot 2011 00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:51,670 unfortunately what happened with a lot of people is the executions were largely 2012 00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:51,680 of people is the executions were largely 2013 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,550 of people is the executions were largely focused on men in Bosnia. It was it was 2014 00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:54,560 focused on men in Bosnia. It was it was 2015 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,750 focused on men in Bosnia. It was it was large percentage of those that were men 2016 00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:57,760 large percentage of those that were men 2017 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,510 large percentage of those that were men uh that were taken away to concentration 2018 00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:59,520 uh that were taken away to concentration 2019 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,670 uh that were taken away to concentration camps often and executed and often the 2020 00:40:01,670 --> 00:40:01,680 camps often and executed and often the 2021 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,829 camps often and executed and often the women would be left uh that that were 2022 00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:03,839 women would be left uh that that were 2023 00:40:03,839 --> 00:40:05,190 women would be left uh that that were able to survive would be left with 2024 00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:05,200 able to survive would be left with 2025 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,069 able to survive would be left with children basically without the dad. So 2026 00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:08,079 children basically without the dad. So 2027 00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:10,230 children basically without the dad. So that letter was in in many ways was a 2028 00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:10,240 that letter was in in many ways was a 2029 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,069 that letter was in in many ways was a letter to basically all children that 2030 00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:12,079 letter to basically all children that 2031 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:13,190 letter to basically all children that were in that position. But it was 2032 00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:13,200 were in that position. But it was 2033 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,550 were in that position. But it was through a guy that he knew was a friend 2034 00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:14,560 through a guy that he knew was a friend 2035 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:15,910 through a guy that he knew was a friend of his. So 2036 00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:15,920 of his. So 2037 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,310 of his. So >> So what's happening now is I want people 2038 00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:18,320 >> So what's happening now is I want people 2039 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,710 >> So what's happening now is I want people to imagine if you had let's say some 2040 00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:20,720 to imagine if you had let's say some 2041 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:23,510 to imagine if you had let's say some really radical extreme individual out 2042 00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:23,520 really radical extreme individual out 2043 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,310 really radical extreme individual out there and uh the whole world knows about 2044 00:40:26,310 --> 00:40:26,320 there and uh the whole world knows about 2045 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,750 there and uh the whole world knows about him. Uh he's he's some Islam let's say 2046 00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:29,760 him. Uh he's he's some Islam let's say 2047 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,790 him. Uh he's he's some Islam let's say Muslim extremist. Okay. And now you have 2048 00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:32,800 Muslim extremist. Okay. And now you have 2049 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,829 Muslim extremist. Okay. And now you have whole countries who are parading him. 2050 00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:35,839 whole countries who are parading him. 2051 00:40:35,839 --> 00:40:38,310 whole countries who are parading him. Can we say this is people who are 2052 00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:38,320 Can we say this is people who are 2053 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,310 Can we say this is people who are convicted war criminals, perpetrators of 2054 00:40:42,310 --> 00:40:42,320 convicted war criminals, perpetrators of 2055 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,870 convicted war criminals, perpetrators of the greatest after World War II 2056 00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:44,880 the greatest after World War II 2057 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,190 the greatest after World War II celebrated as national heroes? Is is 2058 00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:47,200 celebrated as national heroes? Is is 2059 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,390 celebrated as national heroes? Is is this what is happening? And children in 2060 00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:50,400 this what is happening? And children in 2061 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,069 this what is happening? And children in the schools are being taught the a 2062 00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:54,079 the schools are being taught the a 2063 00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:56,069 the schools are being taught the a fictional version of history like this 2064 00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:56,079 fictional version of history like this 2065 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,470 fictional version of history like this never actually happened. 2066 00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:58,480 never actually happened. 2067 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,390 never actually happened. >> That's right. So in in 48 49% of Bosnia 2068 00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:02,400 >> That's right. So in in 48 49% of Bosnia 2069 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,230 >> That's right. So in in 48 49% of Bosnia there's active denying of right and part 2070 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:06,240 there's active denying of right and part 2071 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:08,950 there's active denying of right and part of that denial of is to have the school 2072 00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:08,960 of that denial of is to have the school 2073 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,950 of that denial of is to have the school systems 2074 00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:10,960 systems 2075 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,470 systems present at the best they were criminals 2076 00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:14,480 present at the best they were criminals 2077 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,790 present at the best they were criminals in in in in okay light like okay they 2078 00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:16,800 in in in in okay light like okay they 2079 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,589 in in in in okay light like okay they were just fighters for our homeland but 2080 00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:19,599 were just fighters for our homeland but 2081 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,190 were just fighters for our homeland but in many cases it's like these were 2082 00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:21,200 in many cases it's like these were 2083 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,750 in many cases it's like these were actual like heroes you know that did the 2084 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:23,760 actual like heroes you know that did the 2085 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,270 actual like heroes you know that did the right things and because the entire 2086 00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:25,280 right things and because the entire 2087 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,069 right things and because the entire world is against us all the courts that 2088 00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:28,079 world is against us all the courts that 2089 00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:29,990 world is against us all the courts that these people were taken to were were 2090 00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:30,000 these people were taken to were were 2091 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,069 these people were taken to were were rigged and you know this is because the 2092 00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:32,079 rigged and you know this is because the 2093 00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:33,990 rigged and you know this is because the entire world is against us right which 2094 00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:34,000 entire world is against us right which 2095 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,309 entire world is against us right which you could hear from any uh supremacist 2096 00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:36,319 you could hear from any uh supremacist 2097 00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:38,790 you could hear from any uh supremacist ideology they always say the same thing 2098 00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:38,800 ideology they always say the same thing 2099 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,790 ideology they always say the same thing which is the entire world is against us 2100 00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:40,800 which is the entire world is against us 2101 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,309 which is the entire world is against us you know but the the reality is in in 2102 00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:44,319 you know but the the reality is in in 2103 00:41:44,319 --> 00:41:47,109 you know but the the reality is in in Serbia and in the Serb entity in Bosnia 2104 00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:47,119 Serbia and in the Serb entity in Bosnia 2105 00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:49,510 Serbia and in the Serb entity in Bosnia and actually in Serbian diaspora as well 2106 00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:49,520 and actually in Serbian diaspora as well 2107 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,550 and actually in Serbian diaspora as well largely is that uh these guys like Karaj 2108 00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:54,560 largely is that uh these guys like Karaj 2109 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,349 largely is that uh these guys like Karaj like Madic who were you know either 2110 00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:57,359 like Madic who were you know either 2111 00:41:57,359 --> 00:41:59,510 like Madic who were you know either given orders murders or some cases 2112 00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:59,520 given orders murders or some cases 2113 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,150 given orders murders or some cases carrying out the murders themselves 2114 00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:02,160 carrying out the murders themselves 2115 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,950 carrying out the murders themselves uh are celebrated as heroes like their 2116 00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:04,960 uh are celebrated as heroes like their 2117 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,670 uh are celebrated as heroes like their acts of murdering uh Muslims but not 2118 00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:07,680 acts of murdering uh Muslims but not 2119 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,510 acts of murdering uh Muslims but not just Muslims meaning Bosnjaks 2120 00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:11,520 just Muslims meaning Bosnjaks 2121 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,190 just Muslims meaning Bosnjaks or anybody else is viewed as as an act 2122 00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:15,200 or anybody else is viewed as as an act 2123 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,750 or anybody else is viewed as as an act of heroism because they're helping us 2124 00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:17,760 of heroism because they're helping us 2125 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,470 of heroism because they're helping us establish our state. It's always about 2126 00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:20,480 establish our state. It's always about 2127 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,950 establish our state. It's always about the ethnostate, right? In supremacist 2128 00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:22,960 the ethnostate, right? In supremacist 2129 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,270 the ethnostate, right? In supremacist ideologies, it's always about creating 2130 00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:25,280 ideologies, it's always about creating 2131 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,589 ideologies, it's always about creating an ethnostate. So anybody that's that 2132 00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:27,599 an ethnostate. So anybody that's that 2133 00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,309 an ethnostate. So anybody that's that that's helping do that doesn't matter 2134 00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:30,319 that's helping do that doesn't matter 2135 00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:31,990 that's helping do that doesn't matter what they do it can never be wrong. And 2136 00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:32,000 what they do it can never be wrong. And 2137 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,630 what they do it can never be wrong. And in fact the worst that they transgress 2138 00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:34,640 in fact the worst that they transgress 2139 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,790 in fact the worst that they transgress the more of a hero they are. And that is 2140 00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:36,800 the more of a hero they are. And that is 2141 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,190 the more of a hero they are. And that is definitely the true in terms of Serbia. 2142 00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:39,200 definitely the true in terms of Serbia. 2143 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,030 definitely the true in terms of Serbia. There's some people that haven't even 2144 00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:41,040 There's some people that haven't even 2145 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,069 There's some people that haven't even gotten their uh uh chance to be called a 2146 00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:44,079 gotten their uh uh chance to be called a 2147 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:45,430 gotten their uh uh chance to be called a hero because they simply just didn't 2148 00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:45,440 hero because they simply just didn't 2149 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,589 hero because they simply just didn't have enough people. You know, if you 2150 00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:47,599 have enough people. You know, if you 2151 00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,910 have enough people. You know, if you killed only quote unquote 200 people, 2152 00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:49,920 killed only quote unquote 200 people, 2153 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,910 killed only quote unquote 200 people, well, you're just not on level of ladage 2154 00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:51,920 well, you're just not on level of ladage 2155 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,550 well, you're just not on level of ladage who killed at least 8,372 2156 00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:56,560 who killed at least 8,372 2157 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,589 who killed at least 8,372 people in Sanita, right? But uh he 2158 00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:59,599 people in Sanita, right? But uh he 2159 00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:01,190 people in Sanita, right? But uh he killed way more than that because he 2160 00:43:01,190 --> 00:43:01,200 killed way more than that because he 2161 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,349 killed way more than that because he gave orders and and and commanded 2162 00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:03,359 gave orders and and and commanded 2163 00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:04,950 gave orders and and and commanded attacks that killed way more people than 2164 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:04,960 attacks that killed way more people than 2165 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,990 attacks that killed way more people than that. But by by sheer numbers and the 2166 00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:08,000 that. But by by sheer numbers and the 2167 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,750 that. But by by sheer numbers and the amount of crimes he committed, he's of 2168 00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:09,760 amount of crimes he committed, he's of 2169 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,589 amount of crimes he committed, he's of course the hero number one. And if you 2170 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:11,599 course the hero number one. And if you 2171 00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:13,510 course the hero number one. And if you were to remove one person out of 2172 00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:13,520 were to remove one person out of 2173 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,470 were to remove one person out of equation, which is NovakJokovic, right, 2174 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:16,480 equation, which is NovakJokovic, right, 2175 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,470 equation, which is NovakJokovic, right, who who is a tennis player in Serbia and 2176 00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:20,480 who who is a tennis player in Serbia and 2177 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,550 who who is a tennis player in Serbia and he has he commands a certain amount of 2178 00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:22,560 he has he commands a certain amount of 2179 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,390 he has he commands a certain amount of fandom because he's a tennis player, 2180 00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:24,400 fandom because he's a tennis player, 2181 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,470 fandom because he's a tennis player, right? If you were to remove him out of 2182 00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:26,480 right? If you were to remove him out of 2183 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,510 right? If you were to remove him out of equation, the number one unquestionably 2184 00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:29,520 equation, the number one unquestionably 2185 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,510 equation, the number one unquestionably hero in Serbia would be Rat Kumad. 2186 00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:33,520 hero in Serbia would be Rat Kumad. 2187 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,390 hero in Serbia would be Rat Kumad. Wow. And where does Nobo Jacage, the 2188 00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:36,400 Wow. And where does Nobo Jacage, the 2189 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,750 Wow. And where does Nobo Jacage, the tennis player, where does he stand with 2190 00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:37,760 tennis player, where does he stand with 2191 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,510 tennis player, where does he stand with all this? Are there people like him? And 2192 00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:39,520 all this? Are there people like him? And 2193 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,589 all this? Are there people like him? And like our religion, I mean, Islam doesn't 2194 00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:41,599 like our religion, I mean, Islam doesn't 2195 00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:43,589 like our religion, I mean, Islam doesn't teach us to hate someone because they're 2196 00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:43,599 teach us to hate someone because they're 2197 00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,950 teach us to hate someone because they're actually Islam saved the and according 2198 00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:46,960 actually Islam saved the and according 2199 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,109 actually Islam saved the and according to David Warrenstein, the academics, you 2200 00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:49,119 to David Warrenstein, the academics, you 2201 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:51,030 to David Warrenstein, the academics, you know, Islam saved the jury. You, we 2202 00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:51,040 know, Islam saved the jury. You, we 2203 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,230 know, Islam saved the jury. You, we don't have to go into that history now, 2204 00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:52,240 don't have to go into that history now, 2205 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,470 don't have to go into that history now, but they fled persecution of Christians 2206 00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:54,480 but they fled persecution of Christians 2207 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,710 but they fled persecution of Christians over to Albania, to Baza, to Turkey, and 2208 00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:56,720 over to Albania, to Baza, to Turkey, and 2209 00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:58,790 over to Albania, to Baza, to Turkey, and the list goes on. Same thing. We don't 2210 00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:58,800 the list goes on. Same thing. We don't 2211 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,190 the list goes on. Same thing. We don't hate people because they're Serbian, but 2212 00:44:01,190 --> 00:44:01,200 hate people because they're Serbian, but 2213 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,790 hate people because they're Serbian, but um are there people on the ground from 2214 00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:04,800 um are there people on the ground from 2215 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,750 um are there people on the ground from Serbs and others who are trying to push 2216 00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:07,760 Serbs and others who are trying to push 2217 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,870 Serbs and others who are trying to push back against is Novo Javovich and others 2218 00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:10,880 back against is Novo Javovich and others 2219 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,829 back against is Novo Javovich and others who have a role to play as people who 2220 00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:13,839 who have a role to play as people who 2221 00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:15,829 who have a role to play as people who are influencers, people who people look 2222 00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:15,839 are influencers, people who people look 2223 00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:18,390 are influencers, people who people look up to, they're national heroes. What are 2224 00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:18,400 up to, they're national heroes. What are 2225 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,630 up to, they're national heroes. What are their thoughts on this? 2226 00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:20,640 their thoughts on this? 2227 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,349 their thoughts on this? Well, some of them ended up uh being, 2228 00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:23,359 Well, some of them ended up uh being, 2229 00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:25,270 Well, some of them ended up uh being, for example, supporters of Bosnian 2230 00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:25,280 for example, supporters of Bosnian 2231 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,349 for example, supporters of Bosnian soccer team in a World Cup and they got 2232 00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:27,359 soccer team in a World Cup and they got 2233 00:44:27,359 --> 00:44:29,270 soccer team in a World Cup and they got attacked for doing that. Like in his 2234 00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:29,280 attacked for doing that. Like in his 2235 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,430 attacked for doing that. Like in his case, he showed up physically at to the 2236 00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:31,440 case, he showed up physically at to the 2237 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,870 case, he showed up physically at to the game against Italy when Bosnia was 2238 00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:34,880 game against Italy when Bosnia was 2239 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,550 game against Italy when Bosnia was fighting for its life to make it to the 2240 00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:36,560 fighting for its life to make it to the 2241 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,910 fighting for its life to make it to the cup, right? It was the qualification 2242 00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:37,920 cup, right? It was the qualification 2243 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,589 cup, right? It was the qualification game and he showed up and he actually 2244 00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:39,599 game and he showed up and he actually 2245 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:43,670 game and he showed up and he actually got blasted by Serb extremists for doing 2246 00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:43,680 got blasted by Serb extremists for doing 2247 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,309 got blasted by Serb extremists for doing that. So essentially yes there of course 2248 00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:46,319 that. So essentially yes there of course 2249 00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:48,950 that. So essentially yes there of course there are people who are not in favor of 2250 00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:48,960 there are people who are not in favor of 2251 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,190 there are people who are not in favor of the ethnost state and there are people 2252 00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:51,200 the ethnost state and there are people 2253 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,870 the ethnost state and there are people who are basically uh trying to uh have 2254 00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:54,880 who are basically uh trying to uh have 2255 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,630 who are basically uh trying to uh have like spread the ideas that there needs 2256 00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:56,640 like spread the ideas that there needs 2257 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,230 like spread the ideas that there needs to be like reconciliation and 2258 00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:58,240 to be like reconciliation and 2259 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,710 to be like reconciliation and cooperation between the countries and so 2260 00:45:00,710 --> 00:45:00,720 cooperation between the countries and so 2261 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:02,950 cooperation between the countries and so on. But you have to understand that that 2262 00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:02,960 on. But you have to understand that that 2263 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,069 on. But you have to understand that that the people that are controlling the 2264 00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:04,079 the people that are controlling the 2265 00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:06,870 the people that are controlling the levers of power are the extremists. And 2266 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:06,880 levers of power are the extremists. And 2267 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,109 levers of power are the extremists. And anybody that steps out of line is going 2268 00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:09,119 anybody that steps out of line is going 2269 00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:11,910 anybody that steps out of line is going to be at best attacked publicly for 2270 00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:11,920 to be at best attacked publicly for 2271 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,109 to be at best attacked publicly for doing so like Jookovic was. Right. But 2272 00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:15,119 doing so like Jookovic was. Right. But 2273 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:16,309 doing so like Jookovic was. Right. But there's going to be also some people 2274 00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:16,319 there's going to be also some people 2275 00:45:16,319 --> 00:45:18,710 there's going to be also some people that are just outright killed for trying 2276 00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:18,720 that are just outright killed for trying 2277 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,470 that are just outright killed for trying to do the right thing. And in fact, I 2278 00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:20,480 to do the right thing. And in fact, I 2279 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,390 to do the right thing. And in fact, I have a whole series that I do as part of 2280 00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:22,400 have a whole series that I do as part of 2281 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,470 have a whole series that I do as part of my project which is called the great 2282 00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:24,480 my project which is called the great 2283 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,710 my project which is called the great Serb heroes series. And I tell stories 2284 00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:26,720 Serb heroes series. And I tell stories 2285 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:28,390 Serb heroes series. And I tell stories of all these Serbs that did these 2286 00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:28,400 of all these Serbs that did these 2287 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,430 of all these Serbs that did these incredibly righteous things during the 2288 00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:31,440 incredibly righteous things during the 2289 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,270 incredibly righteous things during the where they risk their lives lives of 2290 00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:33,280 where they risk their lives lives of 2291 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,750 where they risk their lives lives of their family where they gave up their 2292 00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:35,760 their family where they gave up their 2293 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,910 their family where they gave up their life in order to try to stop the so yeah 2294 00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:39,920 life in order to try to stop the so yeah 2295 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,109 life in order to try to stop the so yeah I think demonizing an entire nation 2296 00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:43,119 I think demonizing an entire nation 2297 00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:45,510 I think demonizing an entire nation based on the acts of extremists is just 2298 00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:45,520 based on the acts of extremists is just 2299 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,430 based on the acts of extremists is just wrong. There's lots of people who are 2300 00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:47,440 wrong. There's lots of people who are 2301 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,270 wrong. There's lots of people who are not extremists and who actually in fact 2302 00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:49,280 not extremists and who actually in fact 2303 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,910 not extremists and who actually in fact gave up their life. But with that being 2304 00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:51,920 gave up their life. But with that being 2305 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,750 gave up their life. But with that being said, the extremists are in control of 2306 00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:53,760 said, the extremists are in control of 2307 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,589 said, the extremists are in control of everything. And the the system that they 2308 00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:55,599 everything. And the the system that they 2309 00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:57,670 everything. And the the system that they run is such that if you step out of 2310 00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:57,680 run is such that if you step out of 2311 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,430 run is such that if you step out of line, your life is going to become 2312 00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:59,440 line, your life is going to become 2313 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,790 line, your life is going to become miserable and you're going to be 2314 00:46:00,790 --> 00:46:00,800 miserable and you're going to be 2315 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,230 miserable and you're going to be excommunicated. You're going to be 2316 00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:02,240 excommunicated. You're going to be 2317 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:03,750 excommunicated. You're going to be blacklisted. 2318 00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:03,760 blacklisted. 2319 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,349 blacklisted. You're going to be attacked, potentially 2320 00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:05,359 You're going to be attacked, potentially 2321 00:46:05,359 --> 00:46:07,750 You're going to be attacked, potentially murdered, and you you have no option 2322 00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:07,760 murdered, and you you have no option 2323 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,829 murdered, and you you have no option than than to leave the country in order 2324 00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:09,839 than than to leave the country in order 2325 00:46:09,839 --> 00:46:11,270 than than to leave the country in order to go somewhere else in order to 2326 00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:11,280 to go somewhere else in order to 2327 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,150 to go somewhere else in order to survive. Right? So you have to, I guess, 2328 00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:14,160 survive. Right? So you have to, I guess, 2329 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,990 survive. Right? So you have to, I guess, understand that first and foremost, an 2330 00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:16,000 understand that first and foremost, an 2331 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,230 understand that first and foremost, an extre extremist in Serbia are holding 2332 00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:18,240 extre extremist in Serbia are holding 2333 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:21,030 extre extremist in Serbia are holding Serbs hostage. they're holding any Serb 2334 00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:21,040 Serbs hostage. they're holding any Serb 2335 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,589 Serbs hostage. they're holding any Serb that disagrees hostage and in fear and 2336 00:46:23,589 --> 00:46:23,599 that disagrees hostage and in fear and 2337 00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:25,990 that disagrees hostage and in fear and in a potential threat for to for their 2338 00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:26,000 in a potential threat for to for their 2339 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,109 in a potential threat for to for their life. So, um yeah, that's an important 2340 00:46:29,109 --> 00:46:29,119 life. So, um yeah, that's an important 2341 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:31,190 life. So, um yeah, that's an important point to state that really it's we 2342 00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:31,200 point to state that really it's we 2343 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,950 point to state that really it's we should not paint with broad brush 2344 00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:32,960 should not paint with broad brush 2345 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,630 should not paint with broad brush strokes. We should understand that 2346 00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:34,640 strokes. We should understand that 2347 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,630 strokes. We should understand that there's a system in place that's there 2348 00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:36,640 there's a system in place that's there 2349 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,150 there's a system in place that's there to uh discourage, threaten, intimidate 2350 00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:40,160 to uh discourage, threaten, intimidate 2351 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,230 to uh discourage, threaten, intimidate anybody that has any other opinion and 2352 00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:42,240 anybody that has any other opinion and 2353 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:43,910 anybody that has any other opinion and that wants any other future for the 2354 00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:43,920 that wants any other future for the 2355 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,510 that wants any other future for the region. 2356 00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:45,520 region. 2357 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,309 region. So you did answer the question earlier 2358 00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:48,319 So you did answer the question earlier 2359 00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:51,670 So you did answer the question earlier and we'll conclude with that that it it 2360 00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:51,680 and we'll conclude with that that it it 2361 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,670 and we'll conclude with that that it it will happen. I asked you are they 2362 00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:53,680 will happen. I asked you are they 2363 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,510 will happen. I asked you are they planning a an attack like they did 2364 00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:57,520 planning a an attack like they did 2365 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,710 planning a an attack like they did before. You're saying it it is eminent 2366 00:47:00,710 --> 00:47:00,720 before. You're saying it it is eminent 2367 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,430 before. You're saying it it is eminent and let me ask you what's the timeline 2368 00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:03,440 and let me ask you what's the timeline 2369 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,870 and let me ask you what's the timeline if you were going to prophesize if you 2370 00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:04,880 if you were going to prophesize if you 2371 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,069 if you were going to prophesize if you are someone who's going to predict if 2372 00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:06,079 are someone who's going to predict if 2373 00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:07,750 are someone who's going to predict if you're going to predict what do you 2374 00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:07,760 you're going to predict what do you 2375 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,829 you're going to predict what do you think how long? 2376 00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:09,839 think how long? 2377 00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:13,030 think how long? Well, in our region, uh seems to happen 2378 00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:13,040 Well, in our region, uh seems to happen 2379 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,589 Well, in our region, uh seems to happen every about 40 to 50 years. So, we're in 2380 00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:17,599 every about 40 to 50 years. So, we're in 2381 00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:21,910 every about 40 to 50 years. So, we're in year 31 now since the end of right since 2382 00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:21,920 year 31 now since the end of right since 2383 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,230 year 31 now since the end of right since 1995. Well, I was I should say it's not 2384 00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:24,240 1995. Well, I was I should say it's not 2385 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,109 1995. Well, I was I should say it's not the end of it's this when we cross into 2386 00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:27,119 the end of it's this when we cross into 2387 00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:29,349 the end of it's this when we cross into stage 10 meaning stage 10 is the denial 2388 00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:29,359 stage 10 meaning stage 10 is the denial 2389 00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:32,950 stage 10 meaning stage 10 is the denial stage. The murders stopped but the 2390 00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:32,960 stage. The murders stopped but the 2391 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,750 stage. The murders stopped but the denial continues. Right? So, if and that 2392 00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:35,760 denial continues. Right? So, if and that 2393 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,190 denial continues. Right? So, if and that happened in Yugoslavia too. there was 2394 00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:37,200 happened in Yugoslavia too. there was 2395 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,390 happened in Yugoslavia too. there was denial of everything that happened in 2396 00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:38,400 denial of everything that happened in 2397 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,150 denial of everything that happened in World War II uh by the state too. Uh so 2398 00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:42,160 World War II uh by the state too. Uh so 2399 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,829 World War II uh by the state too. Uh so basically if we were to just follow the 2400 00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:43,839 basically if we were to just follow the 2401 00:47:43,839 --> 00:47:45,990 basically if we were to just follow the timeline I would say people should be 2402 00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:46,000 timeline I would say people should be 2403 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,990 timeline I would say people should be very worried about what may happen in 2404 00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:48,000 very worried about what may happen in 2405 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,349 very worried about what may happen in the next say uh within like 10 years to 2406 00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:51,359 the next say uh within like 10 years to 2407 00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:53,430 the next say uh within like 10 years to about at most 20 years. But I should I 2408 00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:53,440 about at most 20 years. But I should I 2409 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,750 about at most 20 years. But I should I should also say something there's always 2410 00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:55,760 should also say something there's always 2411 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,670 should also say something there's always events that play a role in this right 2412 00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:57,680 events that play a role in this right 2413 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,030 events that play a role in this right right now there's a lot of 2414 00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:59,040 right now there's a lot of 2415 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,109 right now there's a lot of dehumanization and radicalization 2416 00:48:01,109 --> 00:48:01,119 dehumanization and radicalization 2417 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:03,829 dehumanization and radicalization happening. Usually there's a catalyst 2418 00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:03,839 happening. Usually there's a catalyst 2419 00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:06,710 happening. Usually there's a catalyst for when things really kick off. And I 2420 00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:06,720 for when things really kick off. And I 2421 00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:08,870 for when things really kick off. And I would be very concerned especially in 2422 00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:08,880 would be very concerned especially in 2423 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,790 would be very concerned especially in this region if there's any kind of a big 2424 00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:10,800 this region if there's any kind of a big 2425 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,430 this region if there's any kind of a big destabilizing war somewhere that happens 2426 00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:13,440 destabilizing war somewhere that happens 2427 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,270 destabilizing war somewhere that happens and then the effects of that reach 2428 00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:15,280 and then the effects of that reach 2429 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,069 and then the effects of that reach Balkans or if there's a huge economic 2430 00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:18,079 Balkans or if there's a huge economic 2431 00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:20,309 Balkans or if there's a huge economic crisis that happens and then the effects 2432 00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:20,319 crisis that happens and then the effects 2433 00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:22,309 crisis that happens and then the effects of it reach Balkans because those are 2434 00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:22,319 of it reach Balkans because those are 2435 00:48:22,319 --> 00:48:24,069 of it reach Balkans because those are the kind of like seismic events which 2436 00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:24,079 the kind of like seismic events which 2437 00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:27,510 the kind of like seismic events which could quickly tip things over into 2438 00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:27,520 could quickly tip things over into 2439 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,230 could quickly tip things over into again. So, uh, as much as I could 2440 00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:30,240 again. So, uh, as much as I could 2441 00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:32,630 again. So, uh, as much as I could predict maybe when could this happen, 2442 00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:32,640 predict maybe when could this happen, 2443 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,950 predict maybe when could this happen, again, I always preface when I say 2444 00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:34,960 again, I always preface when I say 2445 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,069 again, I always preface when I say anything is I want to be wrong when I 2446 00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:38,079 anything is I want to be wrong when I 2447 00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:39,670 anything is I want to be wrong when I make these predictions. I want to say 2448 00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:39,680 make these predictions. I want to say 2449 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,670 make these predictions. I want to say that things that that when things don't 2450 00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:41,680 that things that that when things don't 2451 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,109 that things that that when things don't happen, I'm going to say that's 2452 00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:43,119 happen, I'm going to say that's 2453 00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:44,710 happen, I'm going to say that's fantastic. 2454 00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:44,720 fantastic. 2455 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,430 fantastic. I'm just I'm just pressing the alarm 2456 00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:47,440 I'm just I'm just pressing the alarm 2457 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,349 I'm just I'm just pressing the alarm button because I'm compelled to press 2458 00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:49,359 button because I'm compelled to press 2459 00:48:49,359 --> 00:48:51,109 button because I'm compelled to press the alarm button because of the proof on 2460 00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:51,119 the alarm button because of the proof on 2461 00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:52,630 the alarm button because of the proof on sort of the proofs in the pudding. And 2462 00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:52,640 sort of the proofs in the pudding. And 2463 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,750 sort of the proofs in the pudding. And what I'm seeing as red flags is highly 2464 00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:55,760 what I'm seeing as red flags is highly 2465 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,430 what I'm seeing as red flags is highly uh uh dangerous things that are shaping 2466 00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:57,440 uh uh dangerous things that are shaping 2467 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,190 uh uh dangerous things that are shaping up, right? So all I'm going to say is 2468 00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:59,200 up, right? So all I'm going to say is 2469 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,710 up, right? So all I'm going to say is like if things don't happen, that'd be 2470 00:49:00,710 --> 00:49:00,720 like if things don't happen, that'd be 2471 00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:03,030 like if things don't happen, that'd be amazing. I I I you know, pray things 2472 00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:03,040 amazing. I I I you know, pray things 2473 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,190 amazing. I I I you know, pray things don't happen. But I'm going to say based 2474 00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:05,200 don't happen. But I'm going to say based 2475 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,510 don't happen. But I'm going to say based on all the evidence, things will happen 2476 00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:07,520 on all the evidence, things will happen 2477 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,750 on all the evidence, things will happen >> and things could happen much faster if 2478 00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:09,760 >> and things could happen much faster if 2479 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,829 >> and things could happen much faster if there's a destabilization. But what I'm 2480 00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:11,839 there's a destabilization. But what I'm 2481 00:49:11,839 --> 00:49:13,349 there's a destabilization. But what I'm seeing now is a ramp up of 2482 00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:13,359 seeing now is a ramp up of 2483 00:49:13,359 --> 00:49:16,230 seeing now is a ramp up of dehumanization. When that reaches the 2484 00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:16,240 dehumanization. When that reaches the 2485 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:17,750 dehumanization. When that reaches the point where people are getting executed 2486 00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:17,760 point where people are getting executed 2487 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,910 point where people are getting executed on the street, even if it's one or two 2488 00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:19,920 on the street, even if it's one or two 2489 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,510 on the street, even if it's one or two people somewhere or three people 2490 00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:21,520 people somewhere or three people 2491 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,390 people somewhere or three people somewhere, that is the next stage, 2492 00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:24,400 somewhere, that is the next stage, 2493 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,589 somewhere, that is the next stage, that's when you cross from 2494 00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:25,599 that's when you cross from 2495 00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:27,990 that's when you cross from dehumanization to now executions. And as 2496 00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:28,000 dehumanization to now executions. And as 2497 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,829 dehumanization to now executions. And as as soon as you start getting into the 2498 00:49:29,829 --> 00:49:29,839 as soon as you start getting into the 2499 00:49:29,839 --> 00:49:31,910 as soon as you start getting into the execution stage of things, you are 2500 00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:31,920 execution stage of things, you are 2501 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,430 execution stage of things, you are moving the orbit window to make it 2502 00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:33,440 moving the orbit window to make it 2503 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,150 moving the orbit window to make it acceptable to execute. So in other 2504 00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:36,160 acceptable to execute. So in other 2505 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,390 acceptable to execute. So in other words, people should not engage in 2506 00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:38,400 words, people should not engage in 2507 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,309 words, people should not engage in cognitive dissonance and say no things 2508 00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:40,319 cognitive dissonance and say no things 2509 00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:41,829 cognitive dissonance and say no things are going to work out fine. things are 2510 00:49:41,829 --> 00:49:41,839 are going to work out fine. things are 2511 00:49:41,839 --> 00:49:44,230 are going to work out fine. things are not going to work out fine. 2512 00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:44,240 not going to work out fine. 2513 00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:45,990 not going to work out fine. >> If they work out fine, it's because 2514 00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:46,000 >> If they work out fine, it's because 2515 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,069 >> If they work out fine, it's because things have moved massively in the other 2516 00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:48,079 things have moved massively in the other 2517 00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:49,510 things have moved massively in the other direction because of some positive thing 2518 00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:49,520 direction because of some positive thing 2519 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:50,790 direction because of some positive thing that has happened. But that means 2520 00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:50,800 that has happened. But that means 2521 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,950 that has happened. But that means there's an action that was taken and 2522 00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:52,960 there's an action that was taken and 2523 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,950 there's an action that was taken and things are not just on their own going 2524 00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:54,960 things are not just on their own going 2525 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,870 things are not just on their own going to turn out okay. It's just not going to 2526 00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:56,880 to turn out okay. It's just not going to 2527 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,230 to turn out okay. It's just not going to happen that way. What's going to happen 2528 00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:58,240 happen that way. What's going to happen 2529 00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:00,069 happen that way. What's going to happen is they will they will keep pushing the 2530 00:50:00,069 --> 00:50:00,079 is they will they will keep pushing the 2531 00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:03,990 is they will they will keep pushing the boundaries uh theers right people that 2532 00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:04,000 boundaries uh theers right people that 2533 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,270 boundaries uh theers right people that want to j they'll keep pushing the 2534 00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:05,280 want to j they'll keep pushing the 2535 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,630 want to j they'll keep pushing the boundaries till they get what they want. 2536 00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:06,640 boundaries till they get what they want. 2537 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,910 boundaries till they get what they want. And one of those boundaries is going to 2538 00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:07,920 And one of those boundaries is going to 2539 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,270 And one of those boundaries is going to be stepping into executions and then 2540 00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:09,280 be stepping into executions and then 2541 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,630 be stepping into executions and then going from executions to wholesale 2542 00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:10,640 going from executions to wholesale 2543 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,630 going from executions to wholesale executions, which is what happened in 2544 00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:12,640 executions, which is what happened in 2545 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,270 executions, which is what happened in 1999, 1991, 1992. They were executions 2546 00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:15,280 1999, 1991, 1992. They were executions 2547 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,829 1999, 1991, 1992. They were executions of Bosnia in 1990. But they were 2548 00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:17,839 of Bosnia in 1990. But they were 2549 00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:19,990 of Bosnia in 1990. But they were isolated events 2550 00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:20,000 isolated events 2551 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,750 isolated events and uh people didn't pay attention to 2552 00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:21,760 and uh people didn't pay attention to 2553 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,950 and uh people didn't pay attention to that that much. They were like, "Ah, 2554 00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:22,960 that that much. They were like, "Ah, 2555 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,470 that that much. They were like, "Ah, well, it's an isolated event." No, it's 2556 00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:24,480 well, it's an isolated event." No, it's 2557 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,790 well, it's an isolated event." No, it's not an isolated event. It is a stage 2558 00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:26,800 not an isolated event. It is a stage 2559 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,150 not an isolated event. It is a stage that's going to lead to the next stage, 2560 00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:28,160 that's going to lead to the next stage, 2561 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,069 that's going to lead to the next stage, which is wholesale murder. 2562 00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:30,079 which is wholesale murder. 2563 00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:32,069 which is wholesale murder. >> What's the benefit? You always hear uh 2564 00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:32,079 >> What's the benefit? You always hear uh 2565 00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:33,750 >> What's the benefit? You always hear uh never forget. And the Holocaust is 2566 00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:33,760 never forget. And the Holocaust is 2567 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,309 never forget. And the Holocaust is always always always um [snorts] talked 2568 00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:36,319 always always always um [snorts] talked 2569 00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:37,990 always always always um [snorts] talked about in a certain community. They 2570 00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:38,000 about in a certain community. They 2571 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,510 about in a certain community. They really don't want you to forget. What's 2572 00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:39,520 really don't want you to forget. What's 2573 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,470 really don't want you to forget. What's the benefit of do you feel Bosnian the 2574 00:50:42,470 --> 00:50:42,480 the benefit of do you feel Bosnian the 2575 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,270 the benefit of do you feel Bosnian the Muslims and Bosnians Bosnjaks are kind 2576 00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:45,280 Muslims and Bosnians Bosnjaks are kind 2577 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,750 Muslims and Bosnians Bosnjaks are kind of uh forgetting about this and what's 2578 00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:47,760 of uh forgetting about this and what's 2579 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,030 of uh forgetting about this and what's the benefit of us uh talking about it? 2580 00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:51,040 the benefit of us uh talking about it? 2581 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,710 the benefit of us uh talking about it? >> Absolutely. They're forgetting about it 2582 00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:52,720 >> Absolutely. They're forgetting about it 2583 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:54,069 >> Absolutely. They're forgetting about it because and I'll tell you where you 2584 00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:54,079 because and I'll tell you where you 2585 00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:56,470 because and I'll tell you where you could clearly see that when you go to 2586 00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:56,480 could clearly see that when you go to 2587 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,790 could clearly see that when you go to the different commemorations around the 2588 00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:58,800 the different commemorations around the 2589 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,030 the different commemorations around the country there are commemorations to the 2590 00:51:01,030 --> 00:51:01,040 country there are commemorations to the 2591 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,870 country there are commemorations to the murders of thousands of people. I mean 2592 00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:02,880 murders of thousands of people. I mean 2593 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,630 murders of thousands of people. I mean you look at an example of pedor for 2594 00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:04,640 you look at an example of pedor for 2595 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,950 you look at an example of pedor for example or kujanskimo is just as few 2596 00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:06,960 example or kujanskimo is just as few 2597 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,549 example or kujanskimo is just as few areas where thousands of people were 2598 00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:08,559 areas where thousands of people were 2599 00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:11,109 areas where thousands of people were executed across those areas. Uh I was at 2600 00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:11,119 executed across those areas. Uh I was at 2601 00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:12,790 executed across those areas. Uh I was at some commemorations where like 10 to 20 2602 00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:12,800 some commemorations where like 10 to 20 2603 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,470 some commemorations where like 10 to 20 people show up. So they can't even get 2604 00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:14,480 people show up. So they can't even get 2605 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,549 people show up. So they can't even get one person to show up per person killed. 2606 00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:16,559 one person to show up per person killed. 2607 00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:18,630 one person to show up per person killed. Right? So in other words people are 2608 00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:18,640 Right? So in other words people are 2609 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,950 Right? So in other words people are disengaging from the memory of it. And 2610 00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:20,960 disengaging from the memory of it. And 2611 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,950 disengaging from the memory of it. And also like a lot of the Bosnian diaspora, 2612 00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:22,960 also like a lot of the Bosnian diaspora, 2613 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,710 also like a lot of the Bosnian diaspora, they don't speak the language. So their 2614 00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:24,720 they don't speak the language. So their 2615 00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:26,309 they don't speak the language. So their children don't read about what happened, 2616 00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:26,319 children don't read about what happened, 2617 00:51:26,319 --> 00:51:27,589 children don't read about what happened, which is why I started doing this 2618 00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:27,599 which is why I started doing this 2619 00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:28,950 which is why I started doing this project in English. So they can 2620 00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:28,960 project in English. So they can 2621 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,069 project in English. So they can understand what happened in each 2622 00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:30,079 understand what happened in each 2623 00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:32,630 understand what happened in each village, in each area. So each of their 2624 00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:32,640 village, in each area. So each of their 2625 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,309 village, in each area. So each of their families was affected by the they 2626 00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:34,319 families was affected by the they 2627 00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:36,309 families was affected by the they wouldn't be in St. Louis, United States 2628 00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:36,319 wouldn't be in St. Louis, United States 2629 00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:38,069 wouldn't be in St. Louis, United States of America, unless they were pushed out 2630 00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:38,079 of America, unless they were pushed out 2631 00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:39,589 of America, unless they were pushed out of Bosnia. They probably were not just 2632 00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:39,599 of Bosnia. They probably were not just 2633 00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:41,510 of Bosnia. They probably were not just going to get up and go to St. Louis. 2634 00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:41,520 going to get up and go to St. Louis. 2635 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,109 going to get up and go to St. Louis. They ended up there because they 2636 00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:43,119 They ended up there because they 2637 00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:44,950 They ended up there because they probably had to escape for their very 2638 00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:44,960 probably had to escape for their very 2639 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,589 probably had to escape for their very lives. So the idea that you that your 2640 00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:47,599 lives. So the idea that you that your 2641 00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:50,150 lives. So the idea that you that your child should forget about that is crazy. 2642 00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:50,160 child should forget about that is crazy. 2643 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,990 child should forget about that is crazy. that like if you forget about it, it is 2644 00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:52,000 that like if you forget about it, it is 2645 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,589 that like if you forget about it, it is basically a betrayal of everybody who 2646 00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:53,599 basically a betrayal of everybody who 2647 00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:55,990 basically a betrayal of everybody who died and everybody who suffered and it's 2648 00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:56,000 died and everybody who suffered and it's 2649 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,510 died and everybody who suffered and it's also a betrayal of the people who are 2650 00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:57,520 also a betrayal of the people who are 2651 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,510 also a betrayal of the people who are coming who could potentially fall under 2652 00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:59,520 coming who could potentially fall under 2653 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,030 coming who could potentially fall under another. 2654 00:52:01,030 --> 00:52:01,040 another. 2655 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,349 another. So you you cannot forget I mean 2656 00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:03,359 So you you cannot forget I mean 2657 00:52:03,359 --> 00:52:05,990 So you you cannot forget I mean forgetting is just crazy exercise and 2658 00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:06,000 forgetting is just crazy exercise and 2659 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,750 forgetting is just crazy exercise and really it dooms you essentially to 2660 00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:07,760 really it dooms you essentially to 2661 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,309 really it dooms you essentially to sleepwalk into another genocide and as I 2662 00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:10,319 sleepwalk into another genocide and as I 2663 00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:13,270 sleepwalk into another genocide and as I say sleepwalked into a mass grave. Uh 2664 00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:13,280 say sleepwalked into a mass grave. Uh 2665 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,109 say sleepwalked into a mass grave. Uh and we have done this several times now 2666 00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:15,119 and we have done this several times now 2667 00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:18,470 and we have done this several times now as Bosnjaks. We did this in 1800s in 2668 00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:18,480 as Bosnjaks. We did this in 1800s in 2669 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,829 as Bosnjaks. We did this in 1800s in 1941 to 45 and now we did it in 1992 to 2670 00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:21,839 1941 to 45 and now we did it in 1992 to 2671 00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:23,510 1941 to 45 and now we did it in 1992 to 1995. So I always called this the 2672 00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:23,520 1995. So I always called this the 2673 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,030 1995. So I always called this the Bosnjak 2674 00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:25,040 Bosnjak 2675 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,030 Bosnjak culture of amnesia like we engage 2676 00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:27,040 culture of amnesia like we engage 2677 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,710 culture of amnesia like we engage constantly in culture of amnesia and 2678 00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:28,720 constantly in culture of amnesia and 2679 00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:30,390 constantly in culture of amnesia and that is a trauma response. Like the way 2680 00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:30,400 that is a trauma response. Like the way 2681 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,470 that is a trauma response. Like the way we deal with trauma is like to say ah 2682 00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:32,480 we deal with trauma is like to say ah 2683 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:33,750 we deal with trauma is like to say ah let's forget about it nothing will 2684 00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:33,760 let's forget about it nothing will 2685 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,390 let's forget about it nothing will happen. We forgive we forget. You can't 2686 00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:36,400 happen. We forgive we forget. You can't 2687 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,549 happen. We forgive we forget. You can't do that because the people that are that 2688 00:52:38,549 --> 00:52:38,559 do that because the people that are that 2689 00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:40,390 do that because the people that are that did that to you are not forgetting 2690 00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:40,400 did that to you are not forgetting 2691 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,069 did that to you are not forgetting anything. They're pushing the same 2692 00:52:42,069 --> 00:52:42,079 anything. They're pushing the same 2693 00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:43,670 anything. They're pushing the same agenda now. Like they're like the 2694 00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:43,680 agenda now. Like they're like the 2695 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,750 agenda now. Like they're like the terminator. like they're basically 2696 00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:45,760 terminator. like they're basically 2697 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,910 terminator. like they're basically pre-programmed to get their atnost state 2698 00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:47,920 pre-programmed to get their atnost state 2699 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,109 pre-programmed to get their atnost state and they're going to keep pushing 2700 00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:49,119 and they're going to keep pushing 2701 00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:50,710 and they're going to keep pushing regardless of what generation of these 2702 00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:50,720 regardless of what generation of these 2703 00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:53,030 regardless of what generation of these guys it is. They were doing it six 2704 00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:53,040 guys it is. They were doing it six 2705 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,309 guys it is. They were doing it six generations ago and they're still doing 2706 00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:54,319 generations ago and they're still doing 2707 00:52:54,319 --> 00:52:56,390 generations ago and they're still doing it now. They're not going to give up the 2708 00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:56,400 it now. They're not going to give up the 2709 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,870 it now. They're not going to give up the atma state. So if you're not ready to 2710 00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:58,880 atma state. So if you're not ready to 2711 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,309 atma state. So if you're not ready to defend yourself and defend your 2712 00:53:00,309 --> 00:53:00,319 defend yourself and defend your 2713 00:53:00,319 --> 00:53:02,150 defend yourself and defend your position, you're going to eventually get 2714 00:53:02,150 --> 00:53:02,160 position, you're going to eventually get 2715 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,390 position, you're going to eventually get killed or you're going to get expel 2716 00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:04,400 killed or you're going to get expel 2717 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,710 killed or you're going to get expel expelled out of the region forcefully, 2718 00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:06,720 expelled out of the region forcefully, 2719 00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:07,990 expelled out of the region forcefully, which is what essentially happened to 2720 00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:08,000 which is what essentially happened to 2721 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,230 which is what essentially happened to half the Bosnjaks. Half the Bosnjaks 2722 00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:10,240 half the Bosnjaks. Half the Bosnjaks 2723 00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:13,750 half the Bosnjaks. Half the Bosnjaks left Bosnia. like it was 50% of the 2724 00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:13,760 left Bosnia. like it was 50% of the 2725 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,910 left Bosnia. like it was 50% of the population from 1991 2726 00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:15,920 population from 1991 2727 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,030 population from 1991 was left after 1995 meaning they left to 2728 00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:19,040 was left after 1995 meaning they left to 2729 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,470 was left after 1995 meaning they left to western Europe they left to Australia 2730 00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:20,480 western Europe they left to Australia 2731 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,069 western Europe they left to Australia they left to America they left to Canada 2732 00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:22,079 they left to America they left to Canada 2733 00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:23,270 they left to America they left to Canada and all these other places where they 2734 00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:23,280 and all these other places where they 2735 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,750 and all these other places where they left to right some even ended up in Iran 2736 00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:25,760 left to right some even ended up in Iran 2737 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,150 left to right some even ended up in Iran and places like that like and most of 2738 00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:28,160 and places like that like and most of 2739 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,790 and places like that like and most of them never came back right so in other 2740 00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:30,800 them never came back right so in other 2741 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,990 them never came back right so in other words were 50% successful that's the way 2742 00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:34,000 words were 50% successful that's the way 2743 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,390 words were 50% successful that's the way to look at it last time and if they look 2744 00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:36,400 to look at it last time and if they look 2745 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:37,430 to look at it last time and if they look at those percentages they're going to be 2746 00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:37,440 at those percentages they're going to be 2747 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,109 at those percentages they're going to be like well we just need one more and we 2748 00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:39,119 like well we just need one more and we 2749 00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:40,390 like well we just need one more and we can get rid of them that's their 2750 00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:40,400 can get rid of them that's their 2751 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,270 can get rid of them that's their mentality 2752 00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:41,280 mentality 2753 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,950 mentality and the rest of the Bosniaaks are like, 2754 00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:42,960 and the rest of the Bosniaaks are like, 2755 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,390 and the rest of the Bosniaaks are like, "Well, I hope it's not going to happen." 2756 00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:44,400 "Well, I hope it's not going to happen." 2757 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,390 "Well, I hope it's not going to happen." And they still think like the outside 2758 00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:46,400 And they still think like the outside 2759 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,390 And they still think like the outside world will come and help them. Bosnia 2760 00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:48,400 world will come and help them. Bosnia 2761 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,990 world will come and help them. Bosnia was for all intents and purposes a live 2762 00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:50,000 was for all intents and purposes a live 2763 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,150 was for all intents and purposes a live streamed for all intents and purposes. 2764 00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:52,160 streamed for all intents and purposes. 2765 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,950 streamed for all intents and purposes. You can find all those videos of Sieo 2766 00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:54,960 You can find all those videos of Sieo 2767 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,870 You can find all those videos of Sieo massacres, right? And children dying out 2768 00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:56,880 massacres, right? And children dying out 2769 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,870 massacres, right? And children dying out in the street. Nobody cared about that. 2770 00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:58,880 in the street. Nobody cared about that. 2771 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,309 in the street. Nobody cared about that. World didn't get up and come and help 2772 00:54:00,309 --> 00:54:00,319 World didn't get up and come and help 2773 00:54:00,319 --> 00:54:02,309 World didn't get up and come and help us. UN was present to the ground and in 2774 00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:02,319 us. UN was present to the ground and in 2775 00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:03,990 us. UN was present to the ground and in fact in some cases collaborated with the 2776 00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:04,000 fact in some cases collaborated with the 2777 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,430 fact in some cases collaborated with the Serbs and murdering people. Just look at 2778 00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:05,440 Serbs and murdering people. Just look at 2779 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,910 Serbs and murdering people. Just look at what happened in Sebins, right? So in 2780 00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:07,920 what happened in Sebins, right? So in 2781 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,670 what happened in Sebins, right? So in other words, this idea that the outside 2782 00:54:09,670 --> 00:54:09,680 other words, this idea that the outside 2783 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,270 other words, this idea that the outside world will come in and save us, that is 2784 00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:11,280 world will come in and save us, that is 2785 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,349 world will come in and save us, that is just crazy. There's no proof for that. 2786 00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:13,359 just crazy. There's no proof for that. 2787 00:54:13,359 --> 00:54:15,829 just crazy. There's no proof for that. The only people that can save you is you 2788 00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:15,839 The only people that can save you is you 2789 00:54:15,839 --> 00:54:17,510 The only people that can save you is you by being organized by being well armed 2790 00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:17,520 by being organized by being well armed 2791 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,790 by being organized by being well armed and being ready for these kinds of 2792 00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:18,800 and being ready for these kinds of 2793 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,630 and being ready for these kinds of situations. Like instead of living like 2794 00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:20,640 situations. Like instead of living like 2795 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,470 situations. Like instead of living like a fool that's hoping things are going to 2796 00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:22,480 a fool that's hoping things are going to 2797 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,069 a fool that's hoping things are going to be fine. I mean, it is literally like an 2798 00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:24,079 be fine. I mean, it is literally like an 2799 00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:26,309 be fine. I mean, it is literally like an infantile childlike mentality where 2800 00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:26,319 infantile childlike mentality where 2801 00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:27,349 infantile childlike mentality where you're essentially saying, "Oh, 2802 00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:27,359 you're essentially saying, "Oh, 2803 00:54:27,359 --> 00:54:28,309 you're essentially saying, "Oh, everything's going to be fine. You 2804 00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:28,319 everything's going to be fine. You 2805 00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:29,589 everything's going to be fine. You nothing will happen, but if it happens, 2806 00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:29,599 nothing will happen, but if it happens, 2807 00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:31,109 nothing will happen, but if it happens, things people will come and support us." 2808 00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:31,119 things people will come and support us." 2809 00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:32,950 things people will come and support us." I remember like when I was a child when 2810 00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:32,960 I remember like when I was a child when 2811 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,349 I remember like when I was a child when SEO fell under siege lots of people came 2812 00:54:35,349 --> 00:54:35,359 SEO fell under siege lots of people came 2813 00:54:35,359 --> 00:54:37,510 SEO fell under siege lots of people came and told us are the war war is going to 2814 00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:37,520 and told us are the war war is going to 2815 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,510 and told us are the war war is going to be over in two months because UN will 2816 00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:39,520 be over in two months because UN will 2817 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,030 be over in two months because UN will just stop this there's going to be a 2818 00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:41,040 just stop this there's going to be a 2819 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,950 just stop this there's going to be a military intervention 2820 00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:42,960 military intervention 2821 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,710 military intervention by the west in order to stop the Bosnia 2822 00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:46,720 by the west in order to stop the Bosnia 2823 00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:48,630 by the west in order to stop the Bosnia nothing happened none of that happened 2824 00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:48,640 nothing happened none of that happened 2825 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,150 nothing happened none of that happened and in fact when people tell me like 2826 00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:50,160 and in fact when people tell me like 2827 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,829 and in fact when people tell me like what about the NATO that came in and 2828 00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:51,839 what about the NATO that came in and 2829 00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:54,870 what about the NATO that came in and bombed Serbia that was Kosovo 2830 00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:54,880 bombed Serbia that was Kosovo 2831 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,430 bombed Serbia that was Kosovo that was like 10 years worth of carnage 2832 00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:57,440 that was like 10 years worth of carnage 2833 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,750 that was like 10 years worth of carnage and murder that happened and the only 2834 00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:59,760 and murder that happened and the only 2835 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,910 and murder that happened and the only reason why they did that meaning inter 2836 00:55:01,910 --> 00:55:01,920 reason why they did that meaning inter 2837 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,430 reason why they did that meaning inter NATO interjected because United States 2838 00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:03,440 NATO interjected because United States 2839 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,309 NATO interjected because United States really needed to place a base in Kasovo. 2840 00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:06,319 really needed to place a base in Kasovo. 2841 00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:08,390 really needed to place a base in Kasovo. They saw it as an opportunity to park 2842 00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:08,400 They saw it as an opportunity to park 2843 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,950 They saw it as an opportunity to park American army in Kasovo. So they of 2844 00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:10,960 American army in Kasovo. So they of 2845 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,109 American army in Kasovo. So they of course interjected into that situation 2846 00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:13,119 course interjected into that situation 2847 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:16,230 course interjected into that situation for self selfish reasons and none of 2848 00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:16,240 for self selfish reasons and none of 2849 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:18,150 for self selfish reasons and none of them did much in Bosnia and I'm going to 2850 00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:18,160 them did much in Bosnia and I'm going to 2851 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,349 them did much in Bosnia and I'm going to come up with lots of different examples 2852 00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:19,359 come up with lots of different examples 2853 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:21,750 come up with lots of different examples where they did some quite bad things and 2854 00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:21,760 where they did some quite bad things and 2855 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,309 where they did some quite bad things and collaborated on some of the aspects of 2856 00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:24,319 collaborated on some of the aspects of 2857 00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:27,109 collaborated on some of the aspects of Right. So in other words, um this idea 2858 00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:27,119 Right. So in other words, um this idea 2859 00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:28,710 Right. So in other words, um this idea that like the UN will come to help you 2860 00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:28,720 that like the UN will come to help you 2861 00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:30,230 that like the UN will come to help you or NATO will come to help you is just 2862 00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:30,240 or NATO will come to help you is just 2863 00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:32,710 or NATO will come to help you is just madness. It's complete insanity. Uh it's 2864 00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:32,720 madness. It's complete insanity. Uh it's 2865 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:33,910 madness. It's complete insanity. Uh it's not going to happen. So in other words, 2866 00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:33,920 not going to happen. So in other words, 2867 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,829 not going to happen. So in other words, if you do not become an adult and start 2868 00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:35,839 if you do not become an adult and start 2869 00:55:35,839 --> 00:55:37,829 if you do not become an adult and start behaving like like the way we are as 2870 00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:37,839 behaving like like the way we are as 2871 00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:40,069 behaving like like the way we are as Bosnjaks is I feel like we stick our 2872 00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:40,079 Bosnjaks is I feel like we stick our 2873 00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:42,470 Bosnjaks is I feel like we stick our hand in boiling water every 50 years and 2874 00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:42,480 hand in boiling water every 50 years and 2875 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,549 hand in boiling water every 50 years and we get really badly burned and then we 2876 00:55:44,549 --> 00:55:44,559 we get really badly burned and then we 2877 00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:46,870 we get really badly burned and then we forget we stuck the hand in the boiling 2878 00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:46,880 forget we stuck the hand in the boiling 2879 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,309 forget we stuck the hand in the boiling water and that the water is boiling and 2880 00:55:48,309 --> 00:55:48,319 water and that the water is boiling and 2881 00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:50,630 water and that the water is boiling and then we stick it in there again. Like 2882 00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:50,640 then we stick it in there again. Like 2883 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:51,910 then we stick it in there again. Like you have to understand you're surrounded 2884 00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:51,920 you have to understand you're surrounded 2885 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,630 you have to understand you're surrounded by total wolves and they're treating you 2886 00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:54,640 by total wolves and they're treating you 2887 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,470 by total wolves and they're treating you like sheep and you can't afford to be 2888 00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:56,480 like sheep and you can't afford to be 2889 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,630 like sheep and you can't afford to be like a little sheep hanging around 2890 00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:58,640 like a little sheep hanging around 2891 00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:59,589 like a little sheep hanging around because you're going to get eaten 2892 00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:59,599 because you're going to get eaten 2893 00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:01,030 because you're going to get eaten eventually. And that's the problem with 2894 00:56:01,030 --> 00:56:01,040 eventually. And that's the problem with 2895 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,109 eventually. And that's the problem with Bosnjaks. They need to get over a 2896 00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:03,119 Bosnjaks. They need to get over a 2897 00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:04,710 Bosnjaks. They need to get over a problem that they have culturally of 2898 00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:04,720 problem that they have culturally of 2899 00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:06,870 problem that they have culturally of forgetting by design almost at this 2900 00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:06,880 forgetting by design almost at this 2901 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,150 forgetting by design almost at this point. They are they are wanting to 2902 00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:08,160 point. They are they are wanting to 2903 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,589 point. They are they are wanting to forget. They're wanting to pretend 2904 00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:09,599 forget. They're wanting to pretend 2905 00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:10,789 forget. They're wanting to pretend didn't happen. It's not going to happen, 2906 00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:10,799 didn't happen. It's not going to happen, 2907 00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:12,950 didn't happen. It's not going to happen, but it will. It'll happen again. How 2908 00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:12,960 but it will. It'll happen again. How 2909 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,430 but it will. It'll happen again. How many mosques were destroyed during this 2910 00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:15,440 many mosques were destroyed during this 2911 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,789 many mosques were destroyed during this um aggression that happened versus 2912 00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:18,799 um aggression that happened versus 2913 00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:21,109 um aggression that happened versus churches? 2914 00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:21,119 churches? 2915 00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:23,430 churches? >> So in the Serb controlled areas of the 2916 00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:23,440 >> So in the Serb controlled areas of the 2917 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,950 >> So in the Serb controlled areas of the country, meaning the areas that their 2918 00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:24,960 country, meaning the areas that their 2919 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,589 country, meaning the areas that their army controlled, all but one mosque was 2920 00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:27,599 army controlled, all but one mosque was 2921 00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,190 army controlled, all but one mosque was destroyed. 2922 00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:29,200 destroyed. 2923 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,430 destroyed. So that is if I'm not mistaken, I 2924 00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:31,440 So that is if I'm not mistaken, I 2925 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,710 So that is if I'm not mistaken, I believe it was like 500 some mosques 2926 00:56:34,710 --> 00:56:34,720 believe it was like 500 some mosques 2927 00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:36,710 believe it was like 500 some mosques were destroyed in Serb and then Croat 2928 00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:36,720 were destroyed in Serb and then Croat 2929 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:39,109 were destroyed in Serb and then Croat destroyed about 100 mosques as well. 2930 00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:39,119 destroyed about 100 mosques as well. 2931 00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:40,549 destroyed about 100 mosques as well. >> So 600 2932 00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:40,559 >> So 600 2933 00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:42,390 >> So 600 >> over 600. Yeah. So 2934 00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:42,400 >> over 600. Yeah. So 2935 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,470 >> over 600. Yeah. So 50 or something masks and then they also 2936 00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:44,480 50 or something masks and then they also 2937 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,910 50 or something masks and then they also destroyed all the other religious 2938 00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:45,920 destroyed all the other religious 2939 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,589 destroyed all the other religious buildings. So any other religious 2940 00:56:47,589 --> 00:56:47,599 buildings. So any other religious 2941 00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:50,390 buildings. So any other religious building like religious school uh and so 2942 00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:50,400 building like religious school uh and so 2943 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,750 building like religious school uh and so on those were all destroyed. So I think 2944 00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:51,760 on those were all destroyed. So I think 2945 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,390 on those were all destroyed. So I think the total number was something like,00 2946 00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:54,400 the total number was something like,00 2947 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,789 the total number was something like,00 Islamic objects were destroyed in 2948 00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:56,799 Islamic objects were destroyed in 2949 00:56:56,799 --> 00:56:59,430 Islamic objects were destroyed in Bosnia. Uh and also there were many 2950 00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:59,440 Bosnia. Uh and also there were many 2951 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,349 Bosnia. Uh and also there were many damaged beyond repair meaning they could 2952 00:57:01,349 --> 00:57:01,359 damaged beyond repair meaning they could 2953 00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:03,990 damaged beyond repair meaning they could not be restored back to the original 2954 00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:04,000 not be restored back to the original 2955 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,109 not be restored back to the original condition. So the numbers are actually 2956 00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:05,119 condition. So the numbers are actually 2957 00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:07,670 condition. So the numbers are actually higher. It's Florida closer to 2,000 2958 00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:07,680 higher. It's Florida closer to 2,000 2959 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,670 higher. It's Florida closer to 2,000 when you count fully destroyed and 2960 00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:09,680 when you count fully destroyed and 2961 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,150 when you count fully destroyed and partly destroyed, right? Objects. So 2962 00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:12,160 partly destroyed, right? Objects. So 2963 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,510 partly destroyed, right? Objects. So that was by design to erase any presence 2964 00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:15,520 that was by design to erase any presence 2965 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,349 that was by design to erase any presence of Muslims in the region to make it 2966 00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:19,359 of Muslims in the region to make it 2967 00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:21,430 of Muslims in the region to make it disappear. And most of those objects 2968 00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:21,440 disappear. And most of those objects 2969 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,789 disappear. And most of those objects under Serb control were not just 2970 00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:22,799 under Serb control were not just 2971 00:57:22,799 --> 00:57:24,950 under Serb control were not just destroyed. They were taken apart. The 2972 00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:24,960 destroyed. They were taken apart. The 2973 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,470 destroyed. They were taken apart. The little bits and pieces of those things 2974 00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:26,480 little bits and pieces of those things 2975 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,470 little bits and pieces of those things were moved somewhere else, thrown into 2976 00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:28,480 were moved somewhere else, thrown into 2977 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,950 were moved somewhere else, thrown into rivers, thrown into fields, other things 2978 00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:30,960 rivers, thrown into fields, other things 2979 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,950 rivers, thrown into fields, other things were built with them kind of stuff. So 2980 00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:32,960 were built with them kind of stuff. So 2981 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,630 were built with them kind of stuff. So in other words, they were erased like 2982 00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:34,640 in other words, they were erased like 2983 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,829 in other words, they were erased like they were never there. You wouldn't even 2984 00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:35,839 they were never there. You wouldn't even 2985 00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:38,950 they were never there. You wouldn't even know in most of those places. And um 2986 00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:38,960 know in most of those places. And um 2987 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,190 know in most of those places. And um that was part of I I call it the 2988 00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:41,200 that was part of I I call it the 2989 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,270 that was part of I I call it the cultural. 2990 00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:43,280 cultural. 2991 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,109 cultural. Uh and then the other part of genocide 2992 00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:45,119 Uh and then the other part of genocide 2993 00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:47,510 Uh and then the other part of genocide of course is to prohibit marking those 2994 00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:47,520 of course is to prohibit marking those 2995 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,349 of course is to prohibit marking those places meaning to say there used to be a 2996 00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:49,359 places meaning to say there used to be a 2997 00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:51,109 places meaning to say there used to be a place here or making it really hard to 2998 00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:51,119 place here or making it really hard to 2999 00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:53,430 place here or making it really hard to rebuild say a religious object which 3000 00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:53,440 rebuild say a religious object which 3001 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:54,789 rebuild say a religious object which happened in a lot of places. And in some 3002 00:57:54,789 --> 00:57:54,799 happened in a lot of places. And in some 3003 00:57:54,799 --> 00:57:56,950 happened in a lot of places. And in some places they built a church on top of a 3004 00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:56,960 places they built a church on top of a 3005 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,630 places they built a church on top of a mosque. So then you had to go through a 3006 00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:58,640 mosque. So then you had to go through a 3007 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,349 mosque. So then you had to go through a really lengthy legal process to get rid 3008 00:58:01,349 --> 00:58:01,359 really lengthy legal process to get rid 3009 00:58:01,359 --> 00:58:02,950 really lengthy legal process to get rid of that object because it was illegally 3010 00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:02,960 of that object because it was illegally 3011 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,109 of that object because it was illegally built on top of what was a mosque for 3012 00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:05,119 built on top of what was a mosque for 3013 00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:08,230 built on top of what was a mosque for 500 years. So in other words, that was 3014 00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:08,240 500 years. So in other words, that was 3015 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,990 500 years. So in other words, that was all part of the genocide. And now I 3016 00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:10,000 all part of the genocide. And now I 3017 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,270 all part of the genocide. And now I heard even another really weird thing 3018 00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:11,280 heard even another really weird thing 3019 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,950 heard even another really weird thing that's happening in Bosnia which is that 3020 00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:12,960 that's happening in Bosnia which is that 3021 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,829 that's happening in Bosnia which is that and it's specific to mosques uh mosques 3022 00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:15,839 and it's specific to mosques uh mosques 3023 00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:18,870 and it's specific to mosques uh mosques which were rebuilt in the Serb 3024 00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:18,880 which were rebuilt in the Serb 3025 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,190 which were rebuilt in the Serb part of Bosnia like the Serb uh uh 3026 00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:21,200 part of Bosnia like the Serb uh uh 3027 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,829 part of Bosnia like the Serb uh uh entities what I call it like 49% of the 3028 00:58:23,829 --> 00:58:23,839 entities what I call it like 49% of the 3029 00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:26,390 entities what I call it like 49% of the country. uh when they did rebuild the 3030 00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:26,400 country. uh when they did rebuild the 3031 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,190 country. uh when they did rebuild the masks uh when you put them on Google 3032 00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:29,200 masks uh when you put them on Google 3033 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,630 masks uh when you put them on Google search like on Google Maps, there's been 3034 00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:32,640 search like on Google Maps, there's been 3035 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,109 search like on Google Maps, there's been a lot somebody or an or like a group of 3036 00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:35,119 a lot somebody or an or like a group of 3037 00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:36,549 a lot somebody or an or like a group of organized people going around and 3038 00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:36,559 organized people going around and 3039 00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,190 organized people going around and removing any mask that's on Google 3040 00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:39,200 removing any mask that's on Google 3041 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,390 removing any mask that's on Google search 3042 00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:40,400 search 3043 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,990 search >> which makes you wonder what what's that 3044 00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:42,000 >> which makes you wonder what what's that 3045 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,589 >> which makes you wonder what what's that about? Why would they do do that? But 3046 00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:43,599 about? Why would they do do that? But 3047 00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:45,750 about? Why would they do do that? But that's part of this idea of eraser. Like 3048 00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:45,760 that's part of this idea of eraser. Like 3049 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,870 that's part of this idea of eraser. Like if we can't get rid of it in like being 3050 00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:48,880 if we can't get rid of it in like being 3051 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,390 if we can't get rid of it in like being present in a landscape, we're going to 3052 00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:50,400 present in a landscape, we're going to 3053 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,910 present in a landscape, we're going to try to do our best to get rid of it 3054 00:58:51,910 --> 00:58:51,920 try to do our best to get rid of it 3055 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,270 try to do our best to get rid of it digitally. Meaning like if people are 3056 00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:53,280 digitally. Meaning like if people are 3057 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,109 digitally. Meaning like if people are going to want going want to go visit to 3058 00:58:55,109 --> 00:58:55,119 going to want going want to go visit to 3059 00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:56,630 going to want going want to go visit to make it harder for them to visit those 3060 00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:56,640 make it harder for them to visit those 3061 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,230 make it harder for them to visit those places to find them to know that they're 3062 00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:58,240 places to find them to know that they're 3063 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,349 places to find them to know that they're even there and uh they have not marked 3064 00:59:01,349 --> 00:59:01,359 even there and uh they have not marked 3065 00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:03,910 even there and uh they have not marked any mass graves right in Serb entities. 3066 00:59:03,910 --> 00:59:03,920 any mass graves right in Serb entities. 3067 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,670 any mass graves right in Serb entities. So all the mass graves are pretty much 3068 00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:05,680 So all the mass graves are pretty much 3069 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,109 So all the mass graves are pretty much unmarked. I think there's a couple of 3070 00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:07,119 unmarked. I think there's a couple of 3071 00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:09,910 unmarked. I think there's a couple of areas where but we're talking here about 3072 00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:09,920 areas where but we're talking here about 3073 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,789 areas where but we're talking here about thousands of you know several thousand 3074 00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:12,799 thousands of you know several thousand 3075 00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:14,950 thousands of you know several thousand mass or individual graves right that 3076 00:59:14,950 --> 00:59:14,960 mass or individual graves right that 3077 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,670 mass or individual graves right that exist and they're all out there you know 3078 00:59:17,670 --> 00:59:17,680 exist and they're all out there you know 3079 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,270 exist and they're all out there you know being unmarked. People don't know where 3080 00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:19,280 being unmarked. People don't know where 3081 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,630 being unmarked. People don't know where they are. they don't know how to go pay 3082 00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:20,640 they are. they don't know how to go pay 3083 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:21,829 they are. they don't know how to go pay respects to where the people were 3084 00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:21,839 respects to where the people were 3085 00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:23,990 respects to where the people were killed. So that's all part of this 3086 00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:24,000 killed. So that's all part of this 3087 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,510 killed. So that's all part of this eraser or denial stat side of so things 3088 00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:27,520 eraser or denial stat side of so things 3089 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,030 eraser or denial stat side of so things are happening right now that are like 3090 00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:29,040 are happening right now that are like 3091 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,109 are happening right now that are like alarming enough. I mean I'll give you 3092 00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:31,119 alarming enough. I mean I'll give you 3093 00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:34,789 alarming enough. I mean I'll give you one example uh init which we've talked a 3094 00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:34,799 one example uh init which we've talked a 3095 00:59:34,799 --> 00:59:35,990 one example uh init which we've talked a lot about compared to the rest of 3096 00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:36,000 lot about compared to the rest of 3097 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,470 lot about compared to the rest of Bosnia. There was a a large execution 3098 00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:38,480 Bosnia. There was a a large execution 3099 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,910 Bosnia. There was a a large execution site where most people were really 3100 00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:39,920 site where most people were really 3101 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,510 site where most people were really executed called Kavitz. It's a 3102 00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:41,520 executed called Kavitz. It's a 3103 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,270 executed called Kavitz. It's a warehouse. People have seen that photo 3104 00:59:43,270 --> 00:59:43,280 warehouse. People have seen that photo 3105 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,910 warehouse. People have seen that photo if they ever search murders. There's a 3106 00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:45,920 if they ever search murders. There's a 3107 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,750 if they ever search murders. There's a video of these bodies in front of a 3108 00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:47,760 video of these bodies in front of a 3109 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,349 video of these bodies in front of a warehouse. It's one of the few videos we 3110 00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:49,359 warehouse. It's one of the few videos we 3111 00:59:49,359 --> 00:59:51,030 warehouse. It's one of the few videos we have of of people that were executed 3112 00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:51,040 have of of people that were executed 3113 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,390 have of of people that were executed during that warehouse was recently 3114 00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:54,400 during that warehouse was recently 3115 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,190 during that warehouse was recently rebuilt. Not rebuilt, but like renovated 3116 00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:57,200 rebuilt. Not rebuilt, but like renovated 3117 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,710 rebuilt. Not rebuilt, but like renovated quote unquote so it can be put back to 3118 00:59:58,710 --> 00:59:58,720 quote unquote so it can be put back to 3119 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,230 quote unquote so it can be put back to use. Nobody's going to be using that 3120 01:00:00,230 --> 01:00:00,240 use. Nobody's going to be using that 3121 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,670 use. Nobody's going to be using that building. Let's make that clear. 3122 01:00:01,670 --> 01:00:01,680 building. Let's make that clear. 3123 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:02,630 building. Let's make that clear. Nobody's going to be using that 3124 01:00:02,630 --> 01:00:02,640 Nobody's going to be using that 3125 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,710 Nobody's going to be using that building. They have changed it, meaning 3126 01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:04,720 building. They have changed it, meaning 3127 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,510 building. They have changed it, meaning they've uh uh rebuilt it for intents and 3128 01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:07,520 they've uh uh rebuilt it for intents and 3129 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,190 they've uh uh rebuilt it for intents and purposes because they want to remove all 3130 01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:09,200 purposes because they want to remove all 3131 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,150 purposes because they want to remove all the bullet holes and bomb remnants and 3132 01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:12,160 the bullet holes and bomb remnants and 3133 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,069 the bullet holes and bomb remnants and other things that are in that building 3134 01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:14,079 other things that are in that building 3135 01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:15,829 other things that are in that building because it was when you passed by it, it 3136 01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:15,839 because it was when you passed by it, it 3137 01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:17,750 because it was when you passed by it, it was very clearly a place of execution. 3138 01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:17,760 was very clearly a place of execution. 3139 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,589 was very clearly a place of execution. It had like hundreds of thousands of 3140 01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:19,599 It had like hundreds of thousands of 3141 01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:21,510 It had like hundreds of thousands of bullets riddled across of it cuz they 3142 01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:21,520 bullets riddled across of it cuz they 3143 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,030 bullets riddled across of it cuz they shoved thousands of people into that 3144 01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:23,040 shoved thousands of people into that 3145 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,870 shoved thousands of people into that object and they murdered them all by 3146 01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:24,880 object and they murdered them all by 3147 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,069 object and they murdered them all by shooting at the object and throwing 3148 01:00:26,069 --> 01:00:26,079 shooting at the object and throwing 3149 01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:28,150 shooting at the object and throwing bombs into it. Right. So now they 3150 01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:28,160 bombs into it. Right. So now they 3151 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,230 bombs into it. Right. So now they rebuilt it supposedly or like renovated 3152 01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:30,240 rebuilt it supposedly or like renovated 3153 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,030 rebuilt it supposedly or like renovated it. That renovation is all about eraser 3154 01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:33,040 it. That renovation is all about eraser 3155 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,829 it. That renovation is all about eraser of a location of murder which in any 3156 01:00:35,829 --> 01:00:35,839 of a location of murder which in any 3157 01:00:35,839 --> 01:00:37,670 of a location of murder which in any other situation in any other healthy 3158 01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:37,680 other situation in any other healthy 3159 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,589 other situation in any other healthy society that is trying to have a 3160 01:00:39,589 --> 01:00:39,599 society that is trying to have a 3161 01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:42,069 society that is trying to have a reconciliation process those would be 3162 01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:42,079 reconciliation process those would be 3163 01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:43,990 reconciliation process those would be like places of visitation. like there 3164 01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:44,000 like places of visitation. like there 3165 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,150 like places of visitation. like there would be like museums, they would be 3166 01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:46,160 would be like museums, they would be 3167 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,910 would be like museums, they would be memorials where people can go and learn 3168 01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:47,920 memorials where people can go and learn 3169 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,750 memorials where people can go and learn about what had happened with the whole 3170 01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:49,760 about what had happened with the whole 3171 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,990 about what had happened with the whole never again situation, right? But in 3172 01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:52,000 never again situation, right? But in 3173 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,349 never again situation, right? But in Bosnia, those places are just 3174 01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:53,359 Bosnia, those places are just 3175 01:00:53,359 --> 01:00:54,870 Bosnia, those places are just disappearing. They're getting destroyed. 3176 01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:54,880 disappearing. They're getting destroyed. 3177 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,150 disappearing. They're getting destroyed. They're getting knocked down. They're 3178 01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:56,160 They're getting knocked down. They're 3179 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,750 They're getting knocked down. They're getting we're pretending these things 3180 01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:57,760 getting we're pretending these things 3181 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,910 getting we're pretending these things never happened. And that is a really 3182 01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:59,920 never happened. And that is a really 3183 01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:01,990 never happened. And that is a really concerted effort to erase any of that 3184 01:01:01,990 --> 01:01:02,000 concerted effort to erase any of that 3185 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,910 concerted effort to erase any of that and then when next that comes just erase 3186 01:01:03,910 --> 01:01:03,920 and then when next that comes just erase 3187 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,910 and then when next that comes just erase all these people all together then erase 3188 01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:05,920 all these people all together then erase 3189 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,430 all these people all together then erase all the places and then we'll just 3190 01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:07,440 all the places and then we'll just 3191 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,510 all the places and then we'll just pretend nothing ever happened here. What 3192 01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:09,520 pretend nothing ever happened here. What 3193 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,270 pretend nothing ever happened here. What happens uh when you have you had 3194 01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:11,280 happens uh when you have you had 3195 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,710 happens uh when you have you had conversations with someone who 3196 01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:12,720 conversations with someone who 3197 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,670 conversations with someone who identifies nationally as a Serb and 3198 01:01:15,670 --> 01:01:15,680 identifies nationally as a Serb and 3199 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,829 identifies nationally as a Serb and you're having a conversation? 3200 01:01:17,829 --> 01:01:17,839 you're having a conversation? 3201 01:01:17,839 --> 01:01:19,910 you're having a conversation? What is usually the talking points if 3202 01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:19,920 What is usually the talking points if 3203 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,549 What is usually the talking points if this comes up? Are is there regret um 3204 01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:22,559 this comes up? Are is there regret um 3205 01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:24,789 this comes up? Are is there regret um with the majority? We're sorry what 3206 01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:24,799 with the majority? We're sorry what 3207 01:01:24,799 --> 01:01:27,349 with the majority? We're sorry what happened or do you get into this denial? 3208 01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:27,359 happened or do you get into this denial? 3209 01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:29,430 happened or do you get into this denial? Like give me an experience. Have you had 3210 01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:29,440 Like give me an experience. Have you had 3211 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,670 Like give me an experience. Have you had some experience with uh some locals from 3212 01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:31,680 some experience with uh some locals from 3213 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,510 some experience with uh some locals from rep from the Republic of Serbia or any 3214 01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:33,520 rep from the Republic of Serbia or any 3215 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,349 rep from the Republic of Serbia or any that you've engaged with as a filmmaker 3216 01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:35,359 that you've engaged with as a filmmaker 3217 01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:39,750 that you've engaged with as a filmmaker and how do those conversations go? So uh 3218 01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:39,760 and how do those conversations go? So uh 3219 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,910 and how do those conversations go? So uh I'll make a preface to this that there 3220 01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:41,920 I'll make a preface to this that there 3221 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,430 I'll make a preface to this that there were a lot of Serbs that fought in the 3222 01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:43,440 were a lot of Serbs that fought in the 3223 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,270 were a lot of Serbs that fought in the Bosnian army that were in Syria during 3224 01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:45,280 Bosnian army that were in Syria during 3225 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:46,470 Bosnian army that were in Syria during war for example and so on. So there were 3226 01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:46,480 war for example and so on. So there were 3227 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,109 war for example and so on. So there were Serbs that were pro multiing Bosnia or 3228 01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:49,119 Serbs that were pro multiing Bosnia or 3229 01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:51,829 Serbs that were pro multiing Bosnia or against ethno ethnostate and fought on 3230 01:01:51,829 --> 01:01:51,839 against ethno ethnostate and fought on 3231 01:01:51,839 --> 01:01:54,470 against ethno ethnostate and fought on on together with all the Bosnjaks right 3232 01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:54,480 on together with all the Bosnjaks right 3233 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,030 on together with all the Bosnjaks right and the Muslims right and and Kats as 3234 01:01:57,030 --> 01:01:57,040 and the Muslims right and and Kats as 3235 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,510 and the Muslims right and and Kats as well. So with that being said, they did 3236 01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:59,520 well. So with that being said, they did 3237 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,390 well. So with that being said, they did a a poll in 2018. I think it was an 3238 01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:02,400 a a poll in 2018. I think it was an 3239 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,549 a a poll in 2018. I think it was an Alazer poll of the Serb entity in 3240 01:02:04,549 --> 01:02:04,559 Alazer poll of the Serb entity in 3241 01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:07,030 Alazer poll of the Serb entity in Bosnia, meaning the 49% controlled by 3242 01:02:07,030 --> 01:02:07,040 Bosnia, meaning the 49% controlled by 3243 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,589 Bosnia, meaning the 49% controlled by the Serbs in Bosnia. And they asked the 3244 01:02:09,589 --> 01:02:09,599 the Serbs in Bosnia. And they asked the 3245 01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:11,510 the Serbs in Bosnia. And they asked the question, uh, do you believe there was 3246 01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:11,520 question, uh, do you believe there was 3247 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,670 question, uh, do you believe there was in Serban? They asked the question, do 3248 01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:13,680 in Serban? They asked the question, do 3249 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,990 in Serban? They asked the question, do you believe that Rat Kumladic, who was 3250 01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:16,000 you believe that Rat Kumladic, who was 3251 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,549 you believe that Rat Kumladic, who was the butcher of Sony, is he a hero? Is 3252 01:02:18,549 --> 01:02:18,559 the butcher of Sony, is he a hero? Is 3253 01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:20,870 the butcher of Sony, is he a hero? Is Karaj who was the lead the political 3254 01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:20,880 Karaj who was the lead the political 3255 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,109 Karaj who was the lead the political leader of of Bosnian Serb extremist, is 3256 01:02:23,109 --> 01:02:23,119 leader of of Bosnian Serb extremist, is 3257 01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:25,510 leader of of Bosnian Serb extremist, is he a hero? Between all those people I 3258 01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:25,520 he a hero? Between all those people I 3259 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:30,870 he a hero? Between all those people I think on average about 74 or 5% uh said 3260 01:02:30,870 --> 01:02:30,880 think on average about 74 or 5% uh said 3261 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,270 think on average about 74 or 5% uh said that this was not a and these people are 3262 01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:33,280 that this was not a and these people are 3263 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:33,829 that this was not a and these people are heroes. 3264 01:02:33,829 --> 01:02:33,839 heroes. 3265 01:02:33,839 --> 01:02:35,510 heroes. >> What's the percentage? 3266 01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:35,520 >> What's the percentage? 3267 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:36,630 >> What's the percentage? >> 76 3268 01:02:36,630 --> 01:02:36,640 >> 76 3269 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:37,190 >> 76 >> 76 3270 01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:37,200 >> 76 3271 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,630 >> 76 >> like 75 76. So that is virtually three 3272 01:02:40,630 --> 01:02:40,640 >> like 75 76. So that is virtually three 3273 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,750 >> like 75 76. So that is virtually three four three out of four people 3274 01:02:43,750 --> 01:02:43,760 four three out of four people 3275 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,109 four three out of four people essentially subscribe to extremism. 3276 01:02:47,109 --> 01:02:47,119 essentially subscribe to extremism. 3277 01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:49,510 essentially subscribe to extremism. >> Wow. But as I always say jokingly, don't 3278 01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:49,520 >> Wow. But as I always say jokingly, don't 3279 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,829 >> Wow. But as I always say jokingly, don't let the 75% 3280 01:02:51,829 --> 01:02:51,839 let the 75% 3281 01:02:51,839 --> 01:02:54,470 let the 75% in that poll ruin the 25% that maybe are 3282 01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:54,480 in that poll ruin the 25% that maybe are 3283 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,270 in that poll ruin the 25% that maybe are not. You have to give credit either way. 3284 01:02:57,270 --> 01:02:57,280 not. You have to give credit either way. 3285 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,390 not. You have to give credit either way. People that are saying they're 3286 01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:58,400 People that are saying they're 3287 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,950 People that are saying they're extremists, believe them. People that 3288 01:03:00,950 --> 01:03:00,960 extremists, believe them. People that 3289 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,109 extremists, believe them. People that are fighting on behalf of multithnic 3290 01:03:03,109 --> 01:03:03,119 are fighting on behalf of multithnic 3291 01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:05,589 are fighting on behalf of multithnic Bosnia and do not want extremism and do 3292 01:03:05,589 --> 01:03:05,599 Bosnia and do not want extremism and do 3293 01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:09,510 Bosnia and do not want extremism and do not want uh you know to happen again, 3294 01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:09,520 not want uh you know to happen again, 3295 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,030 not want uh you know to happen again, you have to give them credit, too. You 3296 01:03:11,030 --> 01:03:11,040 you have to give them credit, too. You 3297 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,510 you have to give them credit, too. You can't just with a broad. Now, with that 3298 01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:13,520 can't just with a broad. Now, with that 3299 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,549 can't just with a broad. Now, with that being said, is there a single example of 3300 01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:16,559 being said, is there a single example of 3301 01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:18,870 being said, is there a single example of reconciliary action by criminals 3302 01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:18,880 reconciliary action by criminals 3303 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,710 reconciliary action by criminals involved with things that happened, 3304 01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:20,720 involved with things that happened, 3305 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,510 involved with things that happened, right, war criminals? No, there is none. 3306 01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:23,520 right, war criminals? No, there is none. 3307 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,430 right, war criminals? No, there is none. The closest to it was people that in 3308 01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:25,440 The closest to it was people that in 3309 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,510 The closest to it was people that in jail said, "We admit to have done it." 3310 01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:27,520 jail said, "We admit to have done it." 3311 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:28,950 jail said, "We admit to have done it." But almost all of them after they were 3312 01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:28,960 But almost all of them after they were 3313 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,430 But almost all of them after they were let out of jail reversed their position. 3314 01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:31,440 let out of jail reversed their position. 3315 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,029 let out of jail reversed their position. And they said, "The reason why when we 3316 01:03:33,029 --> 01:03:33,039 And they said, "The reason why when we 3317 01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:34,789 And they said, "The reason why when we went to the Hague, we said we did it is 3318 01:03:34,789 --> 01:03:34,799 went to the Hague, we said we did it is 3319 01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:37,430 went to the Hague, we said we did it is because we wanted a shorter sentence. 3320 01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:37,440 because we wanted a shorter sentence. 3321 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,589 because we wanted a shorter sentence. And as part of our bargaining, if we 3322 01:03:39,589 --> 01:03:39,599 And as part of our bargaining, if we 3323 01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:41,430 And as part of our bargaining, if we admitted our guilt, we were given short 3324 01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:41,440 admitted our guilt, we were given short 3325 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,109 admitted our guilt, we were given short sentence, but we really are don't 3326 01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:43,119 sentence, but we really are don't 3327 01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:45,109 sentence, but we really are don't believe in in you know what we said. We 3328 01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:45,119 believe in in you know what we said. We 3329 01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:47,670 believe in in you know what we said. We really are still ethnostatists and 3330 01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:47,680 really are still ethnostatists and 3331 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,430 really are still ethnostatists and believe in it. And you know what you 3332 01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:49,440 believe in it. And you know what you 3333 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,789 believe in it. And you know what you should believe when people tell you what 3334 01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:50,799 should believe when people tell you what 3335 01:03:50,799 --> 01:03:52,230 should believe when people tell you what they're telling you honestly, right? 3336 01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:52,240 they're telling you honestly, right? 3337 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,710 they're telling you honestly, right? When they were under pressure of court, 3338 01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:54,720 When they were under pressure of court, 3339 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,109 When they were under pressure of court, that was one thing. When they're out 3340 01:03:57,109 --> 01:03:57,119 that was one thing. When they're out 3341 01:03:57,119 --> 01:03:59,190 that was one thing. When they're out free out in the country and people 3342 01:03:59,190 --> 01:03:59,200 free out in the country and people 3343 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,549 free out in the country and people asking them questions, that's going to 3344 01:04:00,549 --> 01:04:00,559 asking them questions, that's going to 3345 01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:02,390 asking them questions, that's going to be closer to their real point of view. 3346 01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:02,400 be closer to their real point of view. 3347 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,750 be closer to their real point of view. And the real point of view is that all 3348 01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:03,760 And the real point of view is that all 3349 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,990 And the real point of view is that all these people, they have zero regret. 3350 01:04:05,990 --> 01:04:06,000 these people, they have zero regret. 3351 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,390 these people, they have zero regret. zero regret of what they did. And in 3352 01:04:08,390 --> 01:04:08,400 zero regret of what they did. And in 3353 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,470 zero regret of what they did. And in fact, I think Bosnia may be one of the 3354 01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:10,480 fact, I think Bosnia may be one of the 3355 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,950 fact, I think Bosnia may be one of the most extreme examples in all of the 3356 01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:12,960 most extreme examples in all of the 3357 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,190 most extreme examples in all of the world where you literally cannot find 3358 01:04:15,190 --> 01:04:15,200 world where you literally cannot find 3359 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,549 world where you literally cannot find reconciliatory uh uh uh action between 3360 01:04:18,549 --> 01:04:18,559 reconciliatory uh uh uh action between 3361 01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:20,710 reconciliatory uh uh uh action between victims and the perpetrators. Right? 3362 01:04:20,710 --> 01:04:20,720 victims and the perpetrators. Right? 3363 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,270 victims and the perpetrators. Right? There may be some groups ink who are pro 3364 01:04:23,270 --> 01:04:23,280 There may be some groups ink who are pro 3365 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,069 There may be some groups ink who are pro multi Bosnia. I'll give you that. That's 3366 01:04:26,069 --> 01:04:26,079 multi Bosnia. I'll give you that. That's 3367 01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:27,750 multi Bosnia. I'll give you that. That's not what I'm talking about here. I'm 3368 01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:27,760 not what I'm talking about here. I'm 3369 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,190 not what I'm talking about here. I'm talking about people that committed 3370 01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:29,200 talking about people that committed 3371 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,829 talking about people that committed crimes going back and having a 3372 01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:31,839 crimes going back and having a 3373 01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:34,470 crimes going back and having a reconciliary action with the people to 3374 01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:34,480 reconciliary action with the people to 3375 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,470 reconciliary action with the people to whom they've committed crimes to. In 3376 01:04:36,470 --> 01:04:36,480 whom they've committed crimes to. In 3377 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,950 whom they've committed crimes to. In fact, in all of Bosnia, I can find one 3378 01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:38,960 fact, in all of Bosnia, I can find one 3379 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,150 fact, in all of Bosnia, I can find one example of this happening, but it was 3380 01:04:40,150 --> 01:04:40,160 example of this happening, but it was 3381 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,150 example of this happening, but it was actually a Bosnjak who did it. In the 3382 01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:42,160 actually a Bosnjak who did it. In the 3383 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,630 actually a Bosnjak who did it. In the case of Chbichi, which was a camp held 3384 01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:44,640 case of Chbichi, which was a camp held 3385 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,150 case of Chbichi, which was a camp held by the Bosnian army where there were 3386 01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:46,160 by the Bosnian army where there were 3387 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,549 by the Bosnian army where there were some war crimes that happened, right? 3388 01:04:48,549 --> 01:04:48,559 some war crimes that happened, right? 3389 01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:51,190 some war crimes that happened, right? The guy who did it, Alandra is his name. 3390 01:04:51,190 --> 01:04:51,200 The guy who did it, Alandra is his name. 3391 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,630 The guy who did it, Alandra is his name. He was taken to court in HG was given I 3392 01:04:54,630 --> 01:04:54,640 He was taken to court in HG was given I 3393 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,630 He was taken to court in HG was given I think 10 years or 15 years whatever his 3394 01:04:56,630 --> 01:04:56,640 think 10 years or 15 years whatever his 3395 01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,150 think 10 years or 15 years whatever his sentence was. He came back he sought out 3396 01:05:00,150 --> 01:05:00,160 sentence was. He came back he sought out 3397 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,710 sentence was. He came back he sought out people who he kept prisoner and who he 3398 01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:02,720 people who he kept prisoner and who he 3399 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,950 people who he kept prisoner and who he committed uh atrocities to for 3400 01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:04,960 committed uh atrocities to for 3401 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,870 committed uh atrocities to for forgiveness and to try to help them and 3402 01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:06,880 forgiveness and to try to help them and 3403 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,349 forgiveness and to try to help them and tried to work with them. One guy who 3404 01:05:09,349 --> 01:05:09,359 tried to work with them. One guy who 3405 01:05:09,359 --> 01:05:13,270 tried to work with them. One guy who happens to be Bosnjak in all of the did 3406 01:05:13,270 --> 01:05:13,280 happens to be Bosnjak in all of the did 3407 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:14,710 happens to be Bosnjak in all of the did anything like that. And mind you, 3408 01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:14,720 anything like that. And mind you, 3409 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,510 anything like that. And mind you, Bosnian army committed less than 5% of 3410 01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:17,520 Bosnian army committed less than 5% of 3411 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,670 Bosnian army committed less than 5% of all war crimes that happened in Bosnia. 3412 01:05:19,670 --> 01:05:19,680 all war crimes that happened in Bosnia. 3413 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,430 all war crimes that happened in Bosnia. >> Less than 5%. 3414 01:05:21,430 --> 01:05:21,440 >> Less than 5%. 3415 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,190 >> Less than 5%. >> Less than 5%. 85 80 to 85% were towards 3416 01:05:25,190 --> 01:05:25,200 >> Less than 5%. 85 80 to 85% were towards 3417 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,150 >> Less than 5%. 85 80 to 85% were towards Bosnjaks mainly by Serbs. So like Serb 3418 01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:28,160 Bosnjaks mainly by Serbs. So like Serb 3419 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:29,029 Bosnjaks mainly by Serbs. So like Serb extreme, 3420 01:05:29,029 --> 01:05:29,039 extreme, 3421 01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:30,630 extreme, >> this is documented. There's receipts for 3422 01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:30,640 >> this is documented. There's receipts for 3423 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,230 >> this is documented. There's receipts for this. People can go Yeah. 3424 01:05:32,230 --> 01:05:32,240 this. People can go Yeah. 3425 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,069 this. People can go Yeah. >> Yeah. So if you search, if you go and 3426 01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:34,079 >> Yeah. So if you search, if you go and 3427 01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:38,069 >> Yeah. So if you search, if you go and search uh crimes by who did it, right? 3428 01:05:38,069 --> 01:05:38,079 search uh crimes by who did it, right? 3429 01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:41,109 search uh crimes by who did it, right? By factions. So like Serbs, Karatsu, 3430 01:05:41,109 --> 01:05:41,119 By factions. So like Serbs, Karatsu, 3431 01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:44,950 By factions. So like Serbs, Karatsu, Bosnjaks, it's something like 8055. Like 3432 01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:44,960 Bosnjaks, it's something like 8055. Like 3433 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:49,589 Bosnjaks, it's something like 8055. Like 80% Serbs, 15% Karats, 5% Bosnjaks. 3434 01:05:49,589 --> 01:05:49,599 80% Serbs, 15% Karats, 5% Bosnjaks. 3435 01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:51,910 80% Serbs, 15% Karats, 5% Bosnjaks. And the only example of reconciliation 3436 01:05:51,910 --> 01:05:51,920 And the only example of reconciliation 3437 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,990 And the only example of reconciliation that I can think of is a is a single 3438 01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:54,000 that I can think of is a is a single 3439 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,710 that I can think of is a is a single Bosnjak guy from Chileichi. 3440 01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:56,720 Bosnjak guy from Chileichi. 3441 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,470 Bosnjak guy from Chileichi. So we're talking about a region not only 3442 01:05:58,470 --> 01:05:58,480 So we're talking about a region not only 3443 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,109 So we're talking about a region not only that is so steep in denial and where 3444 01:06:01,109 --> 01:06:01,119 that is so steep in denial and where 3445 01:06:01,119 --> 01:06:03,990 that is so steep in denial and where propaganda is really strong, it is an 3446 01:06:03,990 --> 01:06:04,000 propaganda is really strong, it is an 3447 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,309 propaganda is really strong, it is an unreconcilable region in the way that 3448 01:06:06,309 --> 01:06:06,319 unreconcilable region in the way that 3449 01:06:06,319 --> 01:06:07,589 unreconcilable region in the way that people have approached the sit 3450 01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:07,599 people have approached the sit 3451 01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:09,670 people have approached the sit situation. essentially saying we are not 3452 01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:09,680 situation. essentially saying we are not 3453 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,309 situation. essentially saying we are not giving up our position. We are not going 3454 01:06:12,309 --> 01:06:12,319 giving up our position. We are not going 3455 01:06:12,319 --> 01:06:13,990 giving up our position. We are not going to reconcile and we will just continue 3456 01:06:13,990 --> 01:06:14,000 to reconcile and we will just continue 3457 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,789 to reconcile and we will just continue our when the the situation presents 3458 01:06:16,789 --> 01:06:16,799 our when the the situation presents 3459 01:06:16,799 --> 01:06:19,589 our when the the situation presents itself. remember the last time couple 3460 01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:19,599 itself. remember the last time couple 3461 01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:21,510 itself. remember the last time couple years ago I was in Bosnia I did a put 3462 01:06:21,510 --> 01:06:21,520 years ago I was in Bosnia I did a put 3463 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,630 years ago I was in Bosnia I did a put together a documentary and in talking to 3464 01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:24,640 together a documentary and in talking to 3465 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,789 together a documentary and in talking to some of the survivors there exactly what 3466 01:06:26,789 --> 01:06:26,799 some of the survivors there exactly what 3467 01:06:26,799 --> 01:06:29,510 some of the survivors there exactly what you were saying that they I didn't see 3468 01:06:29,510 --> 01:06:29,520 you were saying that they I didn't see 3469 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:34,150 you were saying that they I didn't see them carrying such a hate but they were 3470 01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:34,160 them carrying such a hate but they were 3471 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,870 them carrying such a hate but they were talking as if look um we'd like to 3472 01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:36,880 talking as if look um we'd like to 3473 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,630 talking as if look um we'd like to forgive but nobody's asking for 3474 01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:38,640 forgive but nobody's asking for 3475 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,710 forgive but nobody's asking for forgiveness I remember that how can we 3476 01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:40,720 forgiveness I remember that how can we 3477 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,470 forgiveness I remember that how can we forgive if no one's even asking for 3478 01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:42,480 forgive if no one's even asking for 3479 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,789 forgive if no one's even asking for forgiveness so there there is this 3480 01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:44,799 forgiveness so there there is this 3481 01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:47,829 forgiveness so there there is this denial and people are still wandering 3482 01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:47,839 denial and people are still wandering 3483 01:06:47,839 --> 01:06:49,270 denial and people are still wandering the streets. These criminal, no one's 3484 01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:49,280 the streets. These criminal, no one's 3485 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,670 the streets. These criminal, no one's bringing them to justice. So that's the 3486 01:06:51,670 --> 01:06:51,680 bringing them to justice. So that's the 3487 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:52,309 bringing them to justice. So that's the sad part of it. 3488 01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:52,319 sad part of it. 3489 01:06:52,319 --> 01:06:55,910 sad part of it. >> No. No. And also like I think Bosnjaks 3490 01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:55,920 >> No. No. And also like I think Bosnjaks 3491 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,069 >> No. No. And also like I think Bosnjaks by nature, and I did some videos on 3492 01:06:58,069 --> 01:06:58,079 by nature, and I did some videos on 3493 01:06:58,079 --> 01:06:59,510 by nature, and I did some videos on this, by nature they're a little bit 3494 01:06:59,510 --> 01:06:59,520 this, by nature they're a little bit 3495 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,150 this, by nature they're a little bit forgiven and forget people. So I feel 3496 01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:02,160 forgiven and forget people. So I feel 3497 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,150 forgiven and forget people. So I feel like they would probably issue a lot of 3498 01:07:04,150 --> 01:07:04,160 like they would probably issue a lot of 3499 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,390 like they would probably issue a lot of uh forgiveness if if it was asked, 3500 01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:06,400 uh forgiveness if if it was asked, 3501 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,950 uh forgiveness if if it was asked, right? But I'm not so sure they should 3502 01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:08,960 right? But I'm not so sure they should 3503 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,990 right? But I'm not so sure they should because somebody asking it doesn't 3504 01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:12,000 because somebody asking it doesn't 3505 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,910 because somebody asking it doesn't really mean much. They have to engage in 3506 01:07:13,910 --> 01:07:13,920 really mean much. They have to engage in 3507 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,589 really mean much. They have to engage in meaningful reconciliation. Meaning they 3508 01:07:15,589 --> 01:07:15,599 meaningful reconciliation. Meaning they 3509 01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:17,349 meaningful reconciliation. Meaning they have to reintegrate with community and 3510 01:07:17,349 --> 01:07:17,359 have to reintegrate with community and 3511 01:07:17,359 --> 01:07:19,829 have to reintegrate with community and help community and build community and 3512 01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:19,839 help community and build community and 3513 01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:22,230 help community and build community and do all these actions to show like 3514 01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:22,240 do all these actions to show like 3515 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,069 do all these actions to show like tangibly show that they've changed and 3516 01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:24,079 tangibly show that they've changed and 3517 01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:25,589 tangibly show that they've changed and they want to make a difference and to 3518 01:07:25,589 --> 01:07:25,599 they want to make a difference and to 3519 01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:28,230 they want to make a difference and to put things into in towards positive. So 3520 01:07:28,230 --> 01:07:28,240 put things into in towards positive. So 3521 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,589 put things into in towards positive. So in other words, somebody just coming 3522 01:07:29,589 --> 01:07:29,599 in other words, somebody just coming 3523 01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:31,510 in other words, somebody just coming down and saying can you please apologize 3524 01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:31,520 down and saying can you please apologize 3525 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,270 down and saying can you please apologize that doesn't mean anything 3526 01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:33,280 that doesn't mean anything 3527 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,789 that doesn't mean anything >> right? That could be that could simply 3528 01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:34,799 >> right? That could be that could simply 3529 01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:36,710 >> right? That could be that could simply be that there as there are many examples 3530 01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:36,720 be that there as there are many examples 3531 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,789 be that there as there are many examples their child got sick and they got they 3532 01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:38,799 their child got sick and they got they 3533 01:07:38,799 --> 01:07:40,870 their child got sick and they got they suddenly are afraid of God and they want 3534 01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:40,880 suddenly are afraid of God and they want 3535 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,950 suddenly are afraid of God and they want some forgiveness or like they give away 3536 01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:42,960 some forgiveness or like they give away 3537 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,630 some forgiveness or like they give away the location of a mass grave because 3538 01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:44,640 the location of a mass grave because 3539 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,870 the location of a mass grave because they're afraid that their child is being 3540 01:07:46,870 --> 01:07:46,880 they're afraid that their child is being 3541 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,950 they're afraid that their child is being punished because of their silence. Like 3542 01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:48,960 punished because of their silence. Like 3543 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,349 punished because of their silence. Like they're even their guilt is fake. It's 3544 01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:51,359 they're even their guilt is fake. It's 3545 01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:54,630 they're even their guilt is fake. It's it's driven by selfserving like uh 3546 01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:54,640 it's driven by selfserving like uh 3547 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,630 it's driven by selfserving like uh tendencies, right? Like I'm afraid that 3548 01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:56,640 tendencies, right? Like I'm afraid that 3549 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,069 tendencies, right? Like I'm afraid that I'm getting sick. My child is getting 3550 01:07:58,069 --> 01:07:58,079 I'm getting sick. My child is getting 3551 01:07:58,079 --> 01:07:59,430 I'm getting sick. My child is getting sick. Oo, you know, I'll give you one 3552 01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:59,440 sick. Oo, you know, I'll give you one 3553 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,069 sick. Oo, you know, I'll give you one example. Funny one about that. uh not 3554 01:08:02,069 --> 01:08:02,079 example. Funny one about that. uh not 3555 01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:04,470 example. Funny one about that. uh not funny or not so funny, right? But there 3556 01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:04,480 funny or not so funny, right? But there 3557 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,430 funny or not so funny, right? But there was a mosque in Kuna which is near which 3558 01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:07,440 was a mosque in Kuna which is near which 3559 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,510 was a mosque in Kuna which is near which was bombed as the first object they 3560 01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:09,520 was bombed as the first object they 3561 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,309 was bombed as the first object they bombed when they shot rockets onto the 3562 01:08:12,309 --> 01:08:12,319 bombed when they shot rockets onto the 3563 01:08:12,319 --> 01:08:15,029 bombed when they shot rockets onto the town and they they hit the the the 3564 01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:15,039 town and they they hit the the the 3565 01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:17,669 town and they they hit the the the monara as we call it of the mosque uh 3566 01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:17,679 monara as we call it of the mosque uh 3567 01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:20,070 monara as we call it of the mosque uh the minret they hit it with rockets but 3568 01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:20,080 the minret they hit it with rockets but 3569 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,349 the minret they hit it with rockets but it wouldn't fall down. It was actually 3570 01:08:21,349 --> 01:08:21,359 it wouldn't fall down. It was actually 3571 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:24,470 it wouldn't fall down. It was actually fairly newly built mosque or rebuilt I 3572 01:08:24,470 --> 01:08:24,480 fairly newly built mosque or rebuilt I 3573 01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:26,709 fairly newly built mosque or rebuilt I should say in that case and they uh 3574 01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:26,719 should say in that case and they uh 3575 01:08:26,719 --> 01:08:28,309 should say in that case and they uh couldn't knock it down. So then when 3576 01:08:28,309 --> 01:08:28,319 couldn't knock it down. So then when 3577 01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:30,470 couldn't knock it down. So then when they the village they brought all these 3578 01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:30,480 they the village they brought all these 3579 01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:32,950 they the village they brought all these trucks and bombs and it took them like a 3580 01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:32,960 trucks and bombs and it took them like a 3581 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,110 trucks and bombs and it took them like a full day in order to knock that min 3582 01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:35,120 full day in order to knock that min 3583 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,709 full day in order to knock that min down. It was just holding up because it 3584 01:08:36,709 --> 01:08:36,719 down. It was just holding up because it 3585 01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:38,950 down. It was just holding up because it had all these like steel sports and so 3586 01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:38,960 had all these like steel sports and so 3587 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,269 had all these like steel sports and so on. And then they busted into mosque and 3588 01:08:41,269 --> 01:08:41,279 on. And then they busted into mosque and 3589 01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:43,269 on. And then they busted into mosque and started stealing stuff. So something 3590 01:08:43,269 --> 01:08:43,279 started stealing stuff. So something 3591 01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:46,390 started stealing stuff. So something really odd happened like in 1996 there 3592 01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:46,400 really odd happened like in 1996 there 3593 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:47,669 really odd happened like in 1996 there were people that were coming back after 3594 01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:47,679 were people that were coming back after 3595 01:08:47,679 --> 01:08:49,910 were people that were coming back after the uh day agreement and people were 3596 01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:49,920 the uh day agreement and people were 3597 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,070 the uh day agreement and people were reaccessing those areas. They were 3598 01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:52,080 reaccessing those areas. They were 3599 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,149 reaccessing those areas. They were survivors of Cloa. They came back to 3600 01:08:54,149 --> 01:08:54,159 survivors of Cloa. They came back to 3601 01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:55,590 survivors of Cloa. They came back to their village and they noticed something 3602 01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:55,600 their village and they noticed something 3603 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,349 their village and they noticed something really odd. All the houses were burned, 3604 01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:57,359 really odd. All the houses were burned, 3605 01:08:57,359 --> 01:08:58,950 really odd. All the houses were burned, but the mosque building was still 3606 01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:58,960 but the mosque building was still 3607 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,309 but the mosque building was still intact. Except for the minet, the 3608 01:09:00,309 --> 01:09:00,319 intact. Except for the minet, the 3609 01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:01,990 intact. Except for the minet, the building was intact. So, they went in 3610 01:09:01,990 --> 01:09:02,000 building was intact. So, they went in 3611 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,269 building was intact. So, they went in and a lot of the things were in there. 3612 01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:03,279 and a lot of the things were in there. 3613 01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:04,390 and a lot of the things were in there. And they were like, "What? How did that 3614 01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:04,400 And they were like, "What? How did that 3615 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,229 And they were like, "What? How did that happen?" Well, there was something that 3616 01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:06,239 happen?" Well, there was something that 3617 01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:07,430 happen?" Well, there was something that they noticed that was interesting. 3618 01:09:07,430 --> 01:09:07,440 they noticed that was interesting. 3619 01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:09,829 they noticed that was interesting. They'd built these little scaffolds that 3620 01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:09,839 They'd built these little scaffolds that 3621 01:09:09,839 --> 01:09:11,829 They'd built these little scaffolds that went up to the top and they were clearly 3622 01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:11,839 went up to the top and they were clearly 3623 01:09:11,839 --> 01:09:13,990 went up to the top and they were clearly stealing some stuff from the mosque from 3624 01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:14,000 stealing some stuff from the mosque from 3625 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:15,990 stealing some stuff from the mosque from like the roof of it cuz there was these 3626 01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:16,000 like the roof of it cuz there was these 3627 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,070 like the roof of it cuz there was these beautiful ornaments and stuff. 3628 01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:18,080 beautiful ornaments and stuff. 3629 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:19,990 beautiful ornaments and stuff. >> And then the locals told them one of 3630 01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:20,000 >> And then the locals told them one of 3631 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,669 >> And then the locals told them one of these guys that were stealing tripped, 3632 01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:21,679 these guys that were stealing tripped, 3633 01:09:21,679 --> 01:09:24,149 these guys that were stealing tripped, fell down, and died. And all of them got 3634 01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:24,159 fell down, and died. And all of them got 3635 01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:26,550 fell down, and died. And all of them got scared that this was like punishment 3636 01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:26,560 scared that this was like punishment 3637 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,630 scared that this was like punishment from God for stealing from the mosque. 3638 01:09:28,630 --> 01:09:28,640 from God for stealing from the mosque. 3639 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,149 from God for stealing from the mosque. So they took all the things they stole 3640 01:09:30,149 --> 01:09:30,159 So they took all the things they stole 3641 01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:32,390 So they took all the things they stole and they brought it back in bags and put 3642 01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:32,400 and they brought it back in bags and put 3643 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,070 and they brought it back in bags and put it in the haram which is the little 3644 01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:34,080 it in the haram which is the little 3645 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,910 it in the haram which is the little cemetery next to the mosque and they 3646 01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:35,920 cemetery next to the mosque and they 3647 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,829 cemetery next to the mosque and they left all those objects and they said we 3648 01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:37,839 left all those objects and they said we 3649 01:09:37,839 --> 01:09:39,749 left all those objects and they said we apologize, we apologize, we apologize. 3650 01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:39,759 apologize, we apologize, we apologize. 3651 01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:41,669 apologize, we apologize, we apologize. So like when seems something seems to 3652 01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:41,679 So like when seems something seems to 3653 01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:43,510 So like when seems something seems to suggest there's almost like a divine 3654 01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:43,520 suggest there's almost like a divine 3655 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,189 suggest there's almost like a divine intervention that's happening suddenly 3656 01:09:45,189 --> 01:09:45,199 intervention that's happening suddenly 3657 01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:47,349 intervention that's happening suddenly they're scared and they're very sorry 3658 01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:47,359 they're scared and they're very sorry 3659 01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:49,110 they're scared and they're very sorry >> like you know don't kill us for having 3660 01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:49,120 >> like you know don't kill us for having 3661 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,550 >> like you know don't kill us for having done this. So that is like another 3662 01:09:50,550 --> 01:09:50,560 done this. So that is like another 3663 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,189 done this. So that is like another example of just this sort of mentality, 3664 01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:53,199 example of just this sort of mentality, 3665 01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:54,630 example of just this sort of mentality, right? Where they have like such 3666 01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:54,640 right? Where they have like such 3667 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,110 right? Where they have like such impunity, but yeah, every so often one 3668 01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:57,120 impunity, but yeah, every so often one 3669 01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:58,790 impunity, but yeah, every so often one of them is like, "Ooh, but what if we're 3670 01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:58,800 of them is like, "Ooh, but what if we're 3671 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,790 of them is like, "Ooh, but what if we're wrong, you know? What if we're wrong?" 3672 01:10:00,790 --> 01:10:00,800 wrong, you know? What if we're wrong?" 3673 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,229 wrong, you know? What if we're wrong?" And there's something called divine 3674 01:10:02,229 --> 01:10:02,239 And there's something called divine 3675 01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:04,470 And there's something called divine judgment and punishment. Well, now we 3676 01:10:04,470 --> 01:10:04,480 judgment and punishment. Well, now we 3677 01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:06,229 judgment and punishment. Well, now we have to be careful. And sometimes we got 3678 01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:06,239 have to be careful. And sometimes we got 3679 01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:08,229 have to be careful. And sometimes we got to start try to seek apologies and other 3680 01:10:08,229 --> 01:10:08,239 to start try to seek apologies and other 3681 01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:10,378 to start try to seek apologies and other things, but it's all in bad faith. 3682 01:10:10,378 --> 01:10:10,388 things, but it's all in bad faith. 3683 01:10:10,388 --> 01:10:10,709 things, but it's all in bad faith. [snorts] 3684 01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:10,719 [snorts] 3685 01:10:10,719 --> 01:10:13,990 [snorts] >> I don't Thank you very much. Um, I was 3686 01:10:13,990 --> 01:10:14,000 >> I don't Thank you very much. Um, I was 3687 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,750 >> I don't Thank you very much. Um, I was really impressed with a lot of the 3688 01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:15,760 really impressed with a lot of the 3689 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,149 really impressed with a lot of the stories. is very sad, but I think it's 3690 01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:18,159 stories. is very sad, but I think it's 3691 01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:20,149 stories. is very sad, but I think it's something that's very important that 3692 01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:20,159 something that's very important that 3693 01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:22,070 something that's very important that they're told and you're telling uh 3694 01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:22,080 they're told and you're telling uh 3695 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,790 they're told and you're telling uh stories for victims who can't tell those 3696 01:10:24,790 --> 01:10:24,800 stories for victims who can't tell those 3697 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,270 stories for victims who can't tell those stories for themselves. So, I commend 3698 01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:27,280 stories for themselves. So, I commend 3699 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,070 stories for themselves. So, I commend you for that. God bless you and uh I 3700 01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:30,080 you for that. God bless you and uh I 3701 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,669 you for that. God bless you and uh I look forward to hopefully meeting you 3702 01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:31,679 look forward to hopefully meeting you 3703 01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:33,669 look forward to hopefully meeting you one day in person if I come down again 3704 01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:33,679 one day in person if I come down again 3705 01:10:33,679 --> 01:10:35,669 one day in person if I come down again to to Bosnia, inshallah. 3706 01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:35,679 to to Bosnia, inshallah. 3707 01:10:35,679 --> 01:10:37,590 to to Bosnia, inshallah. >> Yeah, I I'd be glad to hang out. Thank 3708 01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:37,600 >> Yeah, I I'd be glad to hang out. Thank 3709 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:38,070 >> Yeah, I I'd be glad to hang out. Thank you so much. 3710 01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:38,080 you so much. 3711 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:39,030 you so much. >> Yeah. What's the name of your 3712 01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:39,040 >> Yeah. What's the name of your 3713 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,870 >> Yeah. What's the name of your organization again? 3714 01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:40,880 organization again? 3715 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,630 organization again? So the project that I'm doing is called 3716 01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:42,640 So the project that I'm doing is called 3717 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,110 So the project that I'm doing is called the acts of rearial and it's essentially 3718 01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:45,120 the acts of rearial and it's essentially 3719 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,350 the acts of rearial and it's essentially social media campaign to educate the 3720 01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:47,360 social media campaign to educate the 3721 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,669 social media campaign to educate the world about the Bosnian all the things 3722 01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:49,679 world about the Bosnian all the things 3723 01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:52,310 world about the Bosnian all the things leading up to itself and all the post 3724 01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:52,320 leading up to itself and all the post 3725 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,270 leading up to itself and all the post genocide issues so they have a clear 3726 01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:55,280 genocide issues so they have a clear 3727 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,430 genocide issues so they have a clear understanding of what happened in Bosnia 3728 01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:57,440 understanding of what happened in Bosnia 3729 01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:00,310 understanding of what happened in Bosnia and also ideally if I'm able to every 3730 01:11:00,310 --> 01:11:00,320 and also ideally if I'm able to every 3731 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,310 and also ideally if I'm able to every single crime that I can that I have 3732 01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:02,320 single crime that I can that I have 3733 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,310 single crime that I can that I have evidence for as best as I can that is 3734 01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:04,320 evidence for as best as I can that is 3735 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,990 evidence for as best as I can that is documented so people can get almost like 3736 01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:06,000 documented so people can get almost like 3737 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,630 documented so people can get almost like a beat by beat of the entire which you 3738 01:11:08,630 --> 01:11:08,640 a beat by beat of the entire which you 3739 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,830 a beat by beat of the entire which you can't really get about any job really. 3740 01:11:11,830 --> 01:11:11,840 can't really get about any job really. 3741 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,630 can't really get about any job really. >> Yeah. Thank you very much. 3742 01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:14,640 >> Yeah. Thank you very much. 3743 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:15,270 >> Yeah. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. 3744 01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:15,280 >> Thank you. 3745 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,750 >> Thank you. >> Peace be with you. 3746 01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:17,760 >> Peace be with you. 3747 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,070 >> Peace be with you. >> Wow. Truly sad. [sighs] And this can 3748 01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:20,080 >> Wow. Truly sad. [sighs] And this can 3749 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,149 >> Wow. Truly sad. [sighs] And this can never be forgotten. Just because your 3750 01:11:22,149 --> 01:11:22,159 never be forgotten. Just because your 3751 01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:24,390 never be forgotten. Just because your head is in the sand 3752 01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:24,400 head is in the sand 3753 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,390 head is in the sand and you're caught in this delusion or 3754 01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:26,400 and you're caught in this delusion or 3755 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,550 and you're caught in this delusion or cognitive dissonance as my guest was 3756 01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:28,560 cognitive dissonance as my guest was 3757 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,630 cognitive dissonance as my guest was talking about doesn't mean this reality 3758 01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:30,640 talking about doesn't mean this reality 3759 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,790 talking about doesn't mean this reality isn't true. You're intoxicated with the 3760 01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:32,800 isn't true. You're intoxicated with the 3761 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,790 isn't true. You're intoxicated with the world. You're chasing the dunya and 3762 01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:34,800 world. You're chasing the dunya and 3763 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,510 world. You're chasing the dunya and you're not thinking of this reality. 3764 01:11:37,510 --> 01:11:37,520 you're not thinking of this reality. 3765 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,790 you're not thinking of this reality. Now, you know, as I said earlier, Islam, 3766 01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:40,800 Now, you know, as I said earlier, Islam, 3767 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,070 Now, you know, as I said earlier, Islam, submission to the creator, not the 3768 01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:42,080 submission to the creator, not the 3769 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,910 submission to the creator, not the creation, 3770 01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:43,920 creation, 3771 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,030 creation, doesn't teach us as Muslims to just hate 3772 01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:47,040 doesn't teach us as Muslims to just hate 3773 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,470 doesn't teach us as Muslims to just hate someone because they're of another 3774 01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:48,480 someone because they're of another 3775 01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:50,630 someone because they're of another religion, a ethnicity. No. I've 3776 01:11:50,630 --> 01:11:50,640 religion, a ethnicity. No. I've 3777 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,590 religion, a ethnicity. No. I've interviewed many Serbs and Croats who 3778 01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:53,600 interviewed many Serbs and Croats who 3779 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,990 interviewed many Serbs and Croats who have actually accepted this way of life 3780 01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:56,000 have actually accepted this way of life 3781 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,390 have actually accepted this way of life from the creator, Islam, submission to 3782 01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:58,400 from the creator, Islam, submission to 3783 01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,750 from the creator, Islam, submission to the will of God. But this hate, this 3784 01:12:01,750 --> 01:12:01,760 the will of God. But this hate, this 3785 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,110 the will of God. But this hate, this hate propaganda is extremely dangerous, 3786 01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:05,120 hate propaganda is extremely dangerous, 3787 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,550 hate propaganda is extremely dangerous, no matter who it comes from. And 3788 01:12:06,550 --> 01:12:06,560 no matter who it comes from. And 3789 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,189 no matter who it comes from. And unfortunately, it's among many of the 3790 01:12:09,189 --> 01:12:09,199 unfortunately, it's among many of the 3791 01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:11,910 unfortunately, it's among many of the people from this region who identify as 3792 01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:11,920 people from this region who identify as 3793 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,390 people from this region who identify as Christians. Yet, you'll never see their 3794 01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:14,400 Christians. Yet, you'll never see their 3795 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,149 Christians. Yet, you'll never see their religion being blamed. Nor do we blame 3796 01:12:16,149 --> 01:12:16,159 religion being blamed. Nor do we blame 3797 01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:18,070 religion being blamed. Nor do we blame Christianity. But that's the hypocrisy. 3798 01:12:18,070 --> 01:12:18,080 Christianity. But that's the hypocrisy. 3799 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,630 Christianity. But that's the hypocrisy. Over 600 3800 01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:20,640 Over 600 3801 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,990 Over 600 places of worship. Monotheist houses of 3802 01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:24,000 places of worship. Monotheist houses of 3803 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,550 places of worship. Monotheist houses of worship worshiping the creator were 3804 01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:26,560 worship worshiping the creator were 3805 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,510 worship worshiping the creator were destroyed while the churches in SVO like 3806 01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:29,520 destroyed while the churches in SVO like 3807 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,550 destroyed while the churches in SVO like this is the Jerusalem of Europe, they're 3808 01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:32,560 this is the Jerusalem of Europe, they're 3809 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,950 this is the Jerusalem of Europe, they're still standing. And this is because of 3810 01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:34,960 still standing. And this is because of 3811 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,229 still standing. And this is because of Islam. So this extreme nationalism as I 3812 01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:38,239 Islam. So this extreme nationalism as I 3813 01:12:38,239 --> 01:12:40,229 Islam. So this extreme nationalism as I said and my guest talks about is very 3814 01:12:40,229 --> 01:12:40,239 said and my guest talks about is very 3815 01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:43,510 said and my guest talks about is very very very dangerous. God Almighty the 3816 01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:43,520 very very dangerous. God Almighty the 3817 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,630 very very dangerous. God Almighty the creator did not create us to just hate 3818 01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:46,640 creator did not create us to just hate 3819 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,350 creator did not create us to just hate one another. He created us in different 3820 01:12:49,350 --> 01:12:49,360 one another. He created us in different 3821 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,910 one another. He created us in different nations and colors and languages so that 3822 01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:51,920 nations and colors and languages so that 3823 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,870 nations and colors and languages so that we get to know one another, not hate one 3824 01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:54,880 we get to know one another, not hate one 3825 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,910 we get to know one another, not hate one another. And whoever is preaching and 3826 01:12:57,910 --> 01:12:57,920 another. And whoever is preaching and 3827 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,870 another. And whoever is preaching and teaching this dangerous rhetoric, you're 3828 01:13:00,870 --> 01:13:00,880 teaching this dangerous rhetoric, you're 3829 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,189 teaching this dangerous rhetoric, you're in your community need to stand up and 3830 01:13:03,189 --> 01:13:03,199 in your community need to stand up and 3831 01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:04,550 in your community need to stand up and speak out against it. No matter if 3832 01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:04,560 speak out against it. No matter if 3833 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,310 speak out against it. No matter if you're Serb, Croatian, Bosnian, whoever, 3834 01:13:08,310 --> 01:13:08,320 you're Serb, Croatian, Bosnian, whoever, 3835 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,830 you're Serb, Croatian, Bosnian, whoever, this hate propaganda needs to stop. And 3836 01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:11,840 this hate propaganda needs to stop. And 3837 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,590 this hate propaganda needs to stop. And just like I went up and I interviewed 3838 01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:13,600 just like I went up and I interviewed 3839 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,550 just like I went up and I interviewed one of these uh Chutniks, I sat with him 3840 01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:16,560 one of these uh Chutniks, I sat with him 3841 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,229 one of these uh Chutniks, I sat with him and I said, "Is this what your Bible 3842 01:13:18,229 --> 01:13:18,239 and I said, "Is this what your Bible 3843 01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:19,350 and I said, "Is this what your Bible teaches you?" You can watch the 3844 01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:19,360 teaches you?" You can watch the 3845 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:20,870 teaches you?" You can watch the interview 3846 01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:20,880 interview 3847 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,709 interview where Jesus, as you call him, the prince 3848 01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:22,719 where Jesus, as you call him, the prince 3849 01:13:22,719 --> 01:13:24,229 where Jesus, as you call him, the prince of peace, who we love, by the way, is 3850 01:13:24,229 --> 01:13:24,239 of peace, who we love, by the way, is 3851 01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:25,830 of peace, who we love, by the way, is one of the mightiest messengers sent by 3852 01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:25,840 one of the mightiest messengers sent by 3853 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,910 one of the mightiest messengers sent by God, the Messiah. We believe in him, 3854 01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:27,920 God, the Messiah. We believe in him, 3855 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,229 God, the Messiah. We believe in him, love him. But are you following? That's 3856 01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:30,239 love him. But are you following? That's 3857 01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:31,590 love him. But are you following? That's what you asked him. Are you really 3858 01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:31,600 what you asked him. Are you really 3859 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,229 what you asked him. Are you really following Jesus, peace be upon him? who 3860 01:13:34,229 --> 01:13:34,239 following Jesus, peace be upon him? who 3861 01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:37,110 following Jesus, peace be upon him? who said to love your your neighbor. Are you 3862 01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:37,120 said to love your your neighbor. Are you 3863 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,790 said to love your your neighbor. Are you really following his way or are you 3864 01:13:40,790 --> 01:13:40,800 really following his way or are you 3865 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,590 really following his way or are you following the way of the devil, the 3866 01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:43,600 following the way of the devil, the 3867 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,750 following the way of the devil, the satanic forces? 3868 01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:45,760 satanic forces? 3869 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,910 satanic forces? So, never forget, don't be delusional. 3870 01:13:49,910 --> 01:13:49,920 So, never forget, don't be delusional. 3871 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,270 So, never forget, don't be delusional. Don't be in a state of cognitive 3872 01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:51,280 Don't be in a state of cognitive 3873 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,470 Don't be in a state of cognitive dissonance as my guest was explaining. 3874 01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:54,480 dissonance as my guest was explaining. 3875 01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:57,510 dissonance as my guest was explaining. Do your part now. Do your part and share 3876 01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:57,520 Do your part now. Do your part and share 3877 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,350 Do your part now. Do your part and share this. That's the least you can do to 3878 01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:59,360 this. That's the least you can do to 3879 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,149 this. That's the least you can do to create awareness so we can truly never 3880 01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:02,159 create awareness so we can truly never 3881 01:14:02,159 --> 01:14:05,669 create awareness so we can truly never forget and good will always prevail. We 3882 01:14:05,669 --> 01:14:05,679 forget and good will always prevail. We 3883 01:14:05,679 --> 01:14:07,830 forget and good will always prevail. We just got to do our part. Subscribe if 3884 01:14:07,830 --> 01:14:07,840 just got to do our part. Subscribe if 3885 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,350 just got to do our part. Subscribe if you haven't already. Hit the 3886 01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:09,360 you haven't already. Hit the 3887 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,669 you haven't already. Hit the notification bell. Many of you are 3888 01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:11,679 notification bell. Many of you are 3889 01:14:11,679 --> 01:14:13,030 notification bell. Many of you are watching our videos but you haven't 3890 01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:13,040 watching our videos but you haven't 3891 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,669 watching our videos but you haven't subscribed. Hit the subscription button. 3892 01:14:15,669 --> 01:14:15,679 subscribed. 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