and that I will faithfully discharge the
duties. And that I will faithfully
discharge the duties.
>> How do you swear allegiance to America
from a Quran?
>> They believe that he's a righteous
teacher. They're actually more in line
with Islam.
>> This guy, Ma'am Danny, we are in
trouble. We're letting our city go to
hell.
>> They found Muslim courts were providing
better justice for them. Ironically,
Christianity, you couldn't even get
divorced.
>> That's how Protestantism started, right?
>> Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
>> Nope. Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
>> No.
>> One religion is going to take over the
other. They're both like like we're
going to destroy you and you're going to
destroy us and vice versa. The number
one cause of terrorism in America Muslim
this they they put it but then when a
Christian does something they don't put
the Christian in the title.
>> Alhamdulillah. Asalamkum. Greetings of
peace. There's a lot of people upset
because Mani's
swearing in on the Quran. Let's have a
look.
>> I have a quick question for you guys to
work on while I'm uh eating my dinner.
How the you get sworn in as an American
as an American mayor in an American
city, New York on a Quran?
How do you swear allegiance to America
from a Quran? How do you do that?
Somebody tell me. Is it even legal?
>> All right, we're here with Dr. Rammy,
speaker, financial advisor, medical
doctor, more peace be with you.
>> How you doing, Ramy?
>> Alhamdulillah.
>> Dr. Rammy, how you been?
>> Good.
>> Good. Good. Alhamdulillah.
Alhamdulillah. Um, so your thoughts.
What do you think? We want to in this
episode, we want to dispel many of the
myths that are surrounded about the
verbatim word of God Almighty, the
Quran, what is the Quran? How do we know
it's from the Almighty, from Allah, the
creator? And somebody's swearing in on
it. He could be swearing in on the
Bible, but he swear on on the Quran.
Doesn't mean we endorse his politics and
everything. But now it's it's always
seems like there's an excuse to go ahead
and push more anti-Muslim propaganda and
hate. What are your thoughts when you
saw that?
>> There's a lot to unpack on that. Um, for
starters, a lot of people forget the
strong um Islamic heritage of this
nation when it was founded. Whether that
be from some of the ideals that uh the
founding fathers had. Thomas Jefferson
famously had a Quran himself,
>> didn't he?
>> Yeah.
>> Thomas Jefferson, one of the founding
fathers.
>> Yes. Yes. Had a Quran. Um obviously back
then they were called Muhammadans, but
um there's positive comments about um
his
>> but we don't worship Muhammad.
>> No, we [laughter] don't. This is like
you know orientalist term, etc. But um
so there's there's there's that and
there's a lot of um rules and
regulations that you know ascribe from
Islam in of itself. So a lot of the
modern day uh laws in the west are
pulled from French law and French law is
heavily in influenced by Islamic law.
That's for starters.
>> Oh, that's a good point. French law is
influenced by Islamic law.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Takes a lot of the rules.
Like for example, where do you get
illegal search and seizure? This is an
Islamic moral uh uh idea where
who you know famously um heard uh
couldn't hear people inside the house
cuz it was his nightly kind of um
inspections in the town and then he had
heard people I think it was like they're
drinking or whatever inside and uh he
confronted them and they're like what
right do you have to come into our
privacy because it's very different in
Islam if you do something publicly
outward versus you do something haram
privately we don't encourage it but
there's limits to what the state can do
about it um and so a lot of these these
rules and regulations come from that and
then also the backbone of this country
is built by Muslims. I think they say up
to a third of the Muslims in the slave
trade who came here or a third of the
slaves that came on ships were Muslim
help build this country.
>> Yeah. Like the most famous you know like
Yeah. A lot of them were like
>> he's saying Allah Allah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of Muslims
there. There's Muslim writings etc.
Unfortunately a lot of them either just
from lack of any support to continue
their Islam or the forced conversions
etc. That's been lost. But there's some
writings that are here and there. But
there's a very strong Islamic history to
this. There's a lot of cities that were
founded. The name, you can't come up
with these names other than from like
Muslim names. Um because Muslims were
here, the Chinese were here way before
the British uh and you know, the
founding fathers were um there was a
thriving tra trade, you know, for
centuries here. So
>> um so I I think that's kind of a
misnomer to look at is like how can he
do that? And I I don't believe he's the
first person to be sworn in the Quran
either as well. We've had a I I want to
say congressman I I believe it is
>> Keith Nelson.
>> Yeah, Keith Nelson. And then uh you know
there's there's the choice of the book.
Um the point for for I think as a if you
look at it from a western perspective
for an American
>> you'd want someone to saying hey listen
whatever book I'm swearing on it's
something they actually believe in
because I'm promising you something.
Like I would if if I took myself out of
the you know out of the Islamic
perspective just as like a western
American I don't want someone swearing
onto something they don't believe in cuz
then I can't trust that that swore. I
will support the Constitution of the
United States,
>> the Constitution of the State of New
York,
>> the Constitution of the State of New
York,
>> and the charter of the city of New York.
>> And that I will faithfully discharge the
duties
>> And that I will faithfully discharge the
duties
>> of the office of the mayor of the city
of New York.
>> of the office of the mayor of the city
of New York.
>> according to the best of my ability.
>> So help me God.
>> So help me God. If they're swearing on
something that's holy to them, something
that they believe in, then I would
expect them to be like, "Oh, you know
what? Then maybe this guy's going to be
honest."
>> Solid point. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. He can be pulling a Mavavelian,
right?
>> Yeah. Like obviously that makes
>> that's what the the majority of
politicians, they reading that Mcavelian
book and they're
>> justify the means and you know, yeah, as
long as we get to the the end route, it
doesn't matter which way we take it.
Obviously, in Islam, it's we're probably
the opposite where the ends, don't worry
about the ends. That's from Allahh,
right? That we're not in control. The
one thing we're not in control of is the
the result. What we're 100% control on
is the methodology that we use.
>> That's a good point, Thomas Jefferson.
And you also had and we I spoke about
this with a scholar who was a DD doctor
in divinity and we talked about was
America founded as a Christian nation
and he said absolutely not.
>> He used to be a Christian deacon and he
brings academic resources and he talks
about the founding fathers. They were
deas u many didn't believe in the
trinity and I forget which one it was
was it John Adams or one of them said I
wish that these Muhammadans I wish they
would come over here and share with us
gradas some of some of their basically
teachings and we'd give them a pulpit to
go ahead and share basically Islam I'm
paraphrasing have you heard this
>> yeah I I don't even think like I mean
obviously in Islam we're all big on like
steadily come up with a delete the proof
right so academics part is good but like
it's essentially common knowledge If you
add social studies in this country,
>> go to Chad GBT, you can find his stuff.
>> The the the founding fathers, they left
uh the Brit Britain for many reasons,
but one of the main reasons was this
religious persecution or difference of
opinion that was not something they
could reconcile. And so their mindset
was we do not want to put ourselves in
the same position that we had in
Britain. And so they came here and they
wanted to establish the freedom of
religion. They wanted to establish a
different um kind of perspective on
religion. Yes. So they said they're
deists. believe in God, but they didn't
want to enforce that down anyone's
throat. And that's why the actual
constitution has foundations in it to
fundamentally provide the religion of
freedom for all versus they could have
easily made it a Christian state. It it
that was done by design uh like it
wasn't done by design to provide a safe
haven for all religions and minorities.
>> Treaty of Tripoli says that this
Americas is not founded as a Christian
nation.
>> Yep.
>> It's very clear.
>> Yep. So there's the Christian slant. is
a Christian you know or or a deist
belief you know on God we trust and the
money etc there it's a believing state
but that doesn't mean it's like it's for
Christians by Christians etc only
>> you know when when when I was going over
this with Dr. Gerald Dirks when we were
when I was listening to him I was like a
lot of they actually were more in line.
Obviously there are things I mean
obviously people are going to make up
stuff because they don't have the the
Quran the yes
>> the um statements of prophet Muhammad
there to differentiate but they were
actually closer to Islam
>> actually because they were rejecting the
trinity and they were more towards many
of them unitarians. I was going to say
unarian. There's there's Unitarians here
for a very long time. I mean, famously,
I think is it Utah, if I'm not mistaken,
has a large Unitarian population in
there.
>> Um there's a there's a that Unitarian
belief is, you know, we feel very close
and very um uh a very friendly attitude
with them, a very um almost like
brotherly thing because we're all seeing
God, the creator, Allahh in the same
light. Um there's obviously different
credo differences, etc., But it's very
different than say someone who looks at
um God is the triune trinity etc. or you
know things for us as Muslims that make
a very big difference a a a core like it
can invalidate your dogmatic beliefs as
a whole when you start thinking well God
gets tired God forgets God mistakes God
makes mistakes God uh um is not
infallible
this these these issues Lyn how can you
trust anything in your religion right um
the whole point of worshiping Allahh is
he's the best he's the greatest he's
perfect he needs nothing he is you know
unlike his creation etc. So these things
it's it's it's it's great that there's
um a lot of people who still have old
school that unitarian kind of belief um
which I think uh obviously our argument
is that's what one of the competing
theories or or or schools of thought
were in Christianity early on which led
to the schism and 323 or 325 or the
council of Nika etc when they were
debating which you know which way we're
going to go and then a lot of people you
know these theologians not not real
theologians because theologians will
agree in this. But modern day people
will say, "No, no, no. Where you getting
this from? There's no evidence for
this." Yeah, cuz you killed the
supporters of Unitarianism and you
burned the books. But there are some,
you know, remnants showing that this
wasn't a competing theory that Jesus was
a prophet. He was special, but he wasn't
the son of God. He wasn't God incarnate,
etc. And so um it's it's that kind of
schism where we went into like the whole
trinitarian thing and then the
unitarianism became uh uh a smaller
portion because that was not the popular
uh religion or mindset that the uh that
the empire wanted to take at that point.
And if you look at this is really right
now statistics we can show it up here
that you have 50% of Christians I
believe it's 30% of evangelicals don't
believe Jesus is God. They believe he's
a prophet. They believe that he's a
righteous teacher. They're actually more
in line with Islam. It just people get
stuck on this word though. But I
guarantee if you go look into what Islam
means, what Muslim means, if you look at
the meaning, I think any God-conscious
person who claims that they fear or love
God, they would be in line with Islam.
>> Yeah. And you can even pose the, you
know, a friendly challenge to
Christians. So, um, if we care so much
about what Jesus said, why don't you
look, there's certain Bibles where
actually they'll, um, highlight what
Jesus said himself, not ascribed to him
in red.
>> Red letter. Yeah.
>> Yes. The red letter, uh, Bibles. And if
you look at those there's not you know
these and this is not my words but
there's you know from like uh um many of
the brothers famous dies they'll tell
you there's not a single unequivocal
verse in which Jesus himself calls
himself to be worshiped or that he is
God or that he does anything other than
himself etc. So it's like you tell me do
I want hearsay talk about what someone
said about someone else or do I want to
the source take it from and we don't say
in negative way but the horse's mouth as
they say you know colloally what did
Jesus himself say about himself
>> and and I think a very other important
argument too is if Allahh doesn't change
we know what the nature of God is right
Allah tells us about himself the message
been the same the same the same the same
the same one oneness oneness oneness
oneness oneness and All of a sudden,
even between the Old Testament and the
New Testament, and we don't believe this
what happened, but you know, from from
the changes, all of a sudden the message
came completely different. Hold on. Hold
on. Abraham never talked about more than
one God. Didn't talk about the triun.
Didn't talk about the Triny. Didn't
about son of God. Uh Moses didn't talk
about this. And then all of a sudden,
Jesus talking about this. You took off
ramp, bro. Like we're we're on a totally
different phase. So, how can you
reconcile that you have a completely
It's not like a new law or changing. No,
this is a completely new dogmatic idea
that all of a sudden came up between the
time of the Old Testament to the New
Testament. And there's no way to
reconcile between those two because all
of your other prophets and messengers
never call for that. They didn't know
that about God. They didn't um ascribe
that to God. So then all of a sudden
this becomes the belief. And that's
where it's like, hey, listen, you really
need to do some introspective thinking
about your own belief and see.
>> Let's go ahead and take a break. Um it
reminds me of an old saying. It says if
you want to make a man hate hate you
make him think. So we're making a lot of
people think which we right back here on
the dean show say he is Allah God the
one and only the absolute the eternal he
is not the father of anyone nor is he
father and there is nothing comparable
to him. Islam is about granting the
rights to everybody irrespective of
their religion.
>> This is the book of guidance sure
without doubt for those who fear Allah.
>> Islam has changed William in the most
amazing ways. Most amazing ways. I'm I'm
devastated by what I've seen here. I'm
absolutely devastated. And thank you for
hosting [music] this. Thank you for
doing this.
[music]
>> Welcome back to the Dean Show. I'm here
with Dr. Ramy. Let's get into another
clip
>> of another person. There's many of
these. We'll go through one more of just
people freaking out because Mami, you
voted for him. No, you're here in
California. [laughter] I'm
>> from New York.
Let's go ahead and uh watch this.
>> So this way I hope you can stuff it down
my throat come December 31, 2026 and
tell me how wrong I was. But as of right
now, I put all my money on the fact that
this guy Mam Danny will be the biggest
story of 2026.
For somebody who's swearing in on a
Quran to take over the largest city in
the world, once the greatest city in
America, we are in trouble. If this man
is allowed to run wild and change New
York City, which is already halfway
there, but completely change it into an
Islamic Mecca, we can guarantee that the
rest of our cities will follow suit. And
instead of dividing our states by red
and blue states, the future will be, do
you live in a Christian state or an
Islamic state? Do you live in Florida
where freedom rings or do you live in
Minnesota where it is Sharia law is
taking place? You may think this is
crazy, but did you ever think this guy,
20 plus years after 9/11, would even
have a snowballs chance in hell? We're
letting our city go to hell. We're
letting our country go to hell. We have
to stop all immigration into the United
States of America until we can catch our
breath and see what's going on. And I
would hope that the president and his
administration will do a heavy heavy
background check on this guy and all.
>> Okay. Um I don't know. [laughter]
There's a lot to unpackage here, but I
don't know. I mean, I believe I invited
this guy Dennis Mitchell here to come on
and talk. I think um we reached out over
on X and other people like this we see
we see this I'll see this I say man
these people many of them are become
victims to the hate propaganda I don't
know if many also just jump on jump on
the bandwagon of hate because it's
financially an incentive they get more
clicks likes the algorithm is pushing
this fear cells huh it's like a horror
movie now that they're creating what are
your thoughts
>> like it's I think it's comedy sketch
really if you ever think about it number
one like and this is not a knock on
mandani but if you think he's going to
be the guy that's going to set up
[laughter] like Islamic like this is not
going to happen. I don't I don't think
you know the guy, right? So he he he
tells you he's hardcore democratic
socialist. He has some very very very
liberal values that fall way way beyond
the pale of Islam in terms of like you
know prostitution and LGBTQ whatever. So
I I don't think you need to be worried
about that. But ironically it's like
what do you have to fear? Number one,
generally speaking, uh the one of the
greatest things about this country has
been because it has been a hub for
immigrants. Immigrants have poured um
their um uh all what they bring into the
table from other cultures and uh systems
to make this place better. So, you're
actually shooting yourself in the foot.
And another thing too is um you know I'm
not saying that we're pushing for this
to be like an Islamic state or whatever
but it's ironic if you actually study
history just you know open a book or two
or something and you'll see that um
Christians and Jews even Jews and I'm
going to emphasize even Jews used to go
to Islamic courts when they lived in
Muslim lands because they found Muslim
courts were providing better justice for
them. So quick 30 second background.
Islam gives you a proof point that that
you guys are arguing about um that the
under the Islamic at state, you had
Christian courts and Jewish courts set
up in the Islamic state. Why? Because
we're not going to force our religion
upon other people. Wow, that's amazing.
I never heard that before, right? And so
Christians could go and rule um between
their their issues or their quarrels
through Christian courts. Jews could do
the same thing. And a lot of times, and
there's YouTube videos about this, where
the Jews would say, "Hey, we would
actually prefer going to the Islamic
courts." because they were providing
better justice for us. So if you're
afraid about it, history says you're
probably going to get pretty darn good
justice if we have that system. But no
one's out trying to do that. It's more
of like you have so many things in this
infrastructure which are preferences.
They're not like core dogmatic uh
religious ideas from this country. Like
for example, ironically, Christianity,
you couldn't even get divorced for the
longest time, right? That that ch it was
a schism. I think it was like what is
it? Henry the eighth or something, you
know, I'm a little hazy on it, but like
in terms of like allowing divorce, etc.
So, what difference does it make to you?
Here's the irony. Let's say
>> I believe that's how Protestantism
started, right? That's
>> protesting, but
>> he wanted to get divorced. He couldn't.
So, now
>> look how foolish this is. So, uh 50/50
is the way it goes right now. You can go
to a mediator and be like, "Hey, listen.
We sat down, we discussed, we
arbitrated, whatever. I'll give her
this, this, this. She'll keep this,
this, this, and we agree. Great. Stamp
of approval. No problem. But if you say
those laws are based on Sharia, that's
scary. Now that's just silly. So that
that's really what it is. It's
>> what does it mean? What does Sharia
mean?
>> Sharia is just a system of way of
governance of finding justice between us
and everything else, between us and God,
between us and our environment, us our
neighborhoods, us and our family, us and
ourselves, our health, etc. It's just a
system to live a better life. It's not a
It's a scary term and that's by design
uh because of western uh uh denotations
versus the connotations of it. But like
it it's literally just hey we you guys
have rules, we have rules too and they
can coexist and they have coexisted in
the Islamic model for a very long time.
Maybe here's my challenge. Before you go
and you call out Sharia, why don't we
look at some of the issues you have and
let's look at the pros and cons and tell
me if they're good or bad. Tell me if
they would make society better. You tell
me like we couldn't do the prohibition
and we we tried for how many years and
we caused so many problems. Wouldn't
that be better for this country if we
weren't spending, you know, I'm a
physician, right? You talked about that.
You know how much money this country
spends on alcohol and alcohol-related
illnesses and deaths and injuries and
car accidents and uh uh uh what's it
called? Um legal issues or enormous
amounts, drug problems. Alhamdulillah,
we don't have those drug problems. Um
there there's there's so many things
that Islam offers the solution for that
you just can't find in modern day
society. These things can really help
provide us with solutions. If they don't
like it, no problem. But like there are
this is a system where uh the whole
point of democracy ironically is hey
let's come up with the best thing
whatever people want they can do it. So
if some people in a certain area are
comfortable with a rule and it doesn't
violate or threaten who we are and the
nature of the country is or why not just
let let be and let and let be. Why why
is that such an issue? I don't
understand it. But it's fear-mongering.
It's just trying to trying to say that
oh they're coming for us. They're going
to do this. No one's trying to impose
anything here.
That was uh actually King Henry who
broke who broke away.
>> He ruled in England in 1509 to 1547 and
then the the church didn't let him
divorce and that's how it kicked off.
Yeah.
>> So that's interesting. I always like to
uh unpackage that law. So that's the
divine law that was at the same time
during Moses's time ten commandments.
Sharia, right? Divine law.
>> You have when I spoke to a rabbi, I had
him on the show. I said, "You guys got
your version of Sharia, right? You got
Jewish Sharia." Said, "Yeah."
>> Yeah. They don't call it Sharia, but it
is Sharia, right?
>> You had canon law, Christian Sharia.
>> So, it's And Arabs who are Christians in
the Bible, there's Sharia like 200 times
in the Bible,
>> and they use the word Allah.
>> Yeah. And Allah is
>> Yeah. I'm from Egypt. And you ask them
God, they say Allah. That's the word in
the Bible there in their Coptic Bible.
And it's it's Allah.
>> Mhm.
>> That's the name they used. It it's
amazing how just like you know if you
were saying people would say Muslims
greeting salamkum and they freak out oh
they said something when you define the
word peace dua for you bro you're making
supplications I'm saying nice kind
things for you I'm wishing good day for
>> but that is that just the epitome of
ignorance how ignorant people are you
know at such a level but if somebody's
truly you know sincere genuine I mean in
the day this day and age of technology
of information you can easily go look up
these terms and words and see what they
But they don't want that. That's that's
that's contrary to the whole thing. The
whole thing there's a famous quote and I
don't know it's I think it's
Shakespearean quote that's talking about
like getting the people to move to the
drum of war etc. And it's it's all about
like I can look it up later if you like
but it's essentially
>> you want people think. You don't want
people to think. People thinking becomes
a threat to the status quo. So you want
you just want to motivate people make
them scared. They're coming for you.
They're coming this. they're going to do
this where and then people act out of
emotion and they're responsive rather
than retrospect or um uh being um
purposeful and and reflective. Um, and
so that's what we should do. And as
Muslims is we think, we stop, we pause,
we ponder, we question. Even when it
comes to our religion, we qu There's
nothing wrong with asking the question
why. Even the angels, subhan Allah, the
angels ask Allahh, right? The angels,
even though they don't have a right to
to say no, right? They can't disobey
Allah. But even the angels ask
questions. They say, "Allah, why are you
going to create Adam that's going to do
this?" They're curious. There's nothing
wrong with asking the question and then
looking. And alhamdulillah in Islam, we
believe that every single time you get
asked a question, you're gonna find not
just an answer, not just a good answer,
but a perfect answer. But this is the
the encouragement is before people, you
know, uh do this kind of uh scary, oh,
you know, Islam's come just have you met
your Muslim neighbor? Have you talked to
them? Did you know that like the vast
majority like whatever hospital you go
to, I don't care what part you live in.
I used to work in this like remote area
of South Dakota. Like it was essentially
like a Native American uh reservation.
Huge Muslim population there. There's
Muslims everywhere. And chances are you
got a Muslim doctor. Chances are you
have a Muslim engineer. Chances are you
you you have Muslims in your community
that you don't know about that do good
services for you. Um it's just more of
it's easier to control people through
fear than it is through education. And
that's why like in slavery times, what
was illegal? Reading. Couldn't read.
>> Mhm.
>> That's punishable. It could be a
disaster. Why? Because you don't want
people educated. Then it it challenges
the status quo. That's the whole point.
If you keep people fighting, then the
the the 1% can keep doing what they
want. But if you and I get to know each
other, we sat down, we talk, we exchange
bread, we're enjoying ourselves, we get
to know, hey, you're not so bad. Oh, we
have a lot in common, whatever. And and
all of a sudden, we're working together
to fix our problems. Then what do we
need the 1% for? Then you have a power
issue. then you have a big problem. And
that's just this basic, you know,
societal methodology.
>> Speaking of Jesus, now I want you to
have a look at this.
>> Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
>> No. I thought he'd died.
>> Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
>> You recording right now? Yeah.
>> I'll be happy to tell you if you stop
recording.
>> Just some average Americans on the
street.
>> Do you guys believe in Jesus Christ?
>> No, son.
>> Do you believe in Jesus Christ, by the
way?
>> Uh, nope. And I cut it a long time ago.
You
>> believe in Jesus Christ?
>> Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
>> Nope. Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
>> No. Do
>> you guys believe in Jesus Christ?
>> No.
>> Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
>> No.
>> Do you guys believe in Jesus Christ?
>> Um, no.
>> Do you guys believe in Jesus Christ?
>> Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
>> Do you believe in Jesus Christ? Do
>> you guys believe in Jesus Christ?
>> Have a good night.
>> Do you guys believe in Jesus Christ by
any chance?
Do you guys believe in Jesus Christ?
>> Yes.
>> Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
Do you guys believe in Jesus Christ?
>> We're good today. Thanks.
>> Do you guys believe in Jesus Christ?
>> No.
>> Do you guys believe in Jesus Christ?
>> Oh, thanks.
>> Do you guys believe in Jesus?
>> Not right now, but thank you.
>> Do you believe in Jesus?
>> Yes.
>> Do you believe in Jesus?
>> Yes. As a prophet.
>> Do you believe in Jesus?
>> Yes. One of the mightiest prophets of
God, peace be upon him.
>> Do you believe in Jesus?
>> Yes, as a prophet.
>> You can watch the rest of the video on
our channel, but I mean, you can see how
it's going. It just keeps going like
that. They're asking random people, what
do you think? I mean, we're somehow the
enemy. But then you have this coalition,
this alliance, my bestie over here that
we won't have to mention who they are.
If you have another religion now, if you
mention Jesus, they spit at you. They
will [snorts] say he's burning in the
hellfire. But Muslims are so close now
believe he's the Messiah. He was born
immaculate the conception. His rever
him. Exactly. The list goes on. We love
Jesus, but somehow we're the enemy. So,
it's funny because I want to touch on
that. That was like one of the points
was this um I don't know this invention
of the Judeo-Christian, you know, uh uh
belief because the two are so far apart
it's not even funny, but you know there
there's other forces there other you
know secondary benefits for why that was
done. And you could see that today with
like the I I don't want to get too much
into this, but like if you ask the the
evangelicals um what their true beliefs
are of the um the apocalypse and what's
going to happen and you ask uh like
hardcore Zionist what they believe in
that as well. Um Jewish Zionist, they
both believe in it, but they believe
that like one religion is going to take
over the other. They're both like like
we're going to destroy you and you're
going to destroy us and vice versa.
Convert or die. Yeah. So it's very like
they don't have much in common in terms
of that. It's very ironic, but that's
kind of glossed over. But the other two
points that really were salient to me,
number one was it's sad because
we want people to actually believe in
the religion, right? Like like that's a
really big problem in society. If you I
I'm a big proponent of saying this many
many times. If you cannot ascribe your
morals and your beliefs to something
that is unshakable, something is 100%
true in fact, you don't have morals. You
just have opinions. That's a problem.
Why? Why do you choose something as
right or wrong? Because unless you can
take it back to say this is correct
because of you know as like for example
Muhammad Abra let's say first principles
or whatever but the point is you have to
have an a ruler you know I'm not going
to come tell you this is an inch or what
or a foot or a mile unless I have
something I can tell you exactly what is
it based off and then the other part
that's really really painful is I think
a lot of those people are saying no
because they don't want to get advice
unsolicited advice oh you're going to
talk to me about Jesus whatever I don't
want to deal with that but you know what
they came up to and they said, "Hey, do
you want a dollar? Do you want $5? 30
seconds and I'll tell you how to make a
million dollars." People are like,
"What? How? What? You What's that video?
I'm sure you've seen it. There's this
young guy, like 20ome year old guy. He's
like a millionaire himself just by going
up to going to some of the 1 percenters
telling him, could I just get five
minutes? Tell me how you made your
millionaire, how you so successful,
whatever." And he does this and people
watch it. Why? Because they see success
and they want that. And somehow we have
allowed because I don't think inshallah
we haven't done it but we have allowed
decoupling of success in the success in
the if we don't recognize that the
ultimate success it doesn't mean live
poor and have nothing and be hungry all
the time. No, you can have
don't forget your portion in this world.
There's nothing wrong with that. But
that's not the goal. That's a means to
the end, right? But we have to have the
end goal as this in sight. So if someone
is coming up to you and saying hey
brother I just want to give you some
advice about something
a natural thing you know typically it's
like get off me man why you tell me this
what the brother loves you someone who's
giving you advice loves you even if the
advice is bad but he's got good
intentions he loves you why because he's
giving you advice to make you better
says
religion is advice that's what it is so
when someone's giving you advice I love
this I I I say this a lot is like it's a
win-win situation if you come and give
me advice advice and I'm right and
you're wrong, I'll go back and check it
then alhamdulillah I know for sure what
I was doing was right and I've corrected
you and if I find out I'm wrong one up
awesome you corrected me and you saved
me from doing this issue so it's a
win-win but we like inshallah we don't
be in this situation where people ask us
and want to tell us something about to
help save us from the hellfire has an
amazing hadith one time you know you
have a barbecue it's nice fire and
he'mor'ores and all this kind of stuff
whatever paints a picture of this fire
and he's like you see these bugs they're
attracted to the light and they're they
don't re recognize that it's fire they
think it's just light a source right and
so they keep on falling into it and
burning and dying he's like I am like
that person who's trying to protect you
from you jumping into the fire I'm
trying to protect you from doing that
you think the fire looks good looks it's
a veneer it's it's a outward mirage you
think it's good for you and you're
trying to jump into it and I'm trying to
protect you hold you back and that's
what the for Islam is all about. If
people really knew what Muslims are, all
we are, we're trying to please Allahh.
We're trying to achieve justice between
us, between our society, between
everything
>> through what we believe firmly is the
correct and only one solution, which is
Islam.
>> Mhm.
>> It's just wanting a better, better life,
better situation. That's why I go back
to that second video. Cool, bro. Let's
go. Let's talk about it. Let's I I
accept that challenge. What points do
you think are issues in in Islam that
would make this country worse? Unless
unless you're talking about purely from
a worldly perspective, right? From from
uh not getting fat stacks and filling
your bank account, whatever. But if
we're going to talk about like pros and
cons, I remember I did a a paper in high
school, I think it was, or college, I
can't remember. Um comparing and
contrasting the penal code in America
versus the Islamic penal code. I got
news for you. Islamic penal code, we
don't got repeat offenders. You know
what's cruel cruel and usual punishment?
I would say this hands down. Cruel
unusual punishment is you have someone
that you know raped or killed or
whatever does some time gets out and
goes and does it again. That's cruel and
usual punishment. You allow not that
family to suffer but also another family
to suffer. If you have a dog and I'm
sorry to use this example, if you have a
dog that that tastes blood, what do you
do? You got to put him down cuz what?
He's going to come back for it again.
Allah is telling us if you have a human
that cannot control himself and puts
himself where now he's a danger to
society capital punishment. That's what
we believe, right? We don't
>> Trump is trying to bring that back now.
>> Yeah. We don't repeat offenders. That is
that is a a a corrective measure to
protect the whole. You're looking at the
the rights of the one person who has
already transgressed other people's
rights. We're trying to protect protect
society as a whole. So you may look at
oh this this is I tell you I get into
these discussions a lot and a lot of
people are like man I would move to
Muslim country for that. I believe in
that system. Why? Because they've seen
the the huge injustice in this country
of a penal system that provides no real
uh uh rehabilit rehabilitation. It
doesn't provide a real incentive not to
do things. Um, it's just a it's a not
only is it a a burden on the the people
financially, it's a money maker for the
1enters. Again, like
institutionalization of primarily
African-Americans, they make money off
them. Cheap labor. Um, it's a for-profit
system in the prison. That's a totally
different, you know, discussion. But
yeah, like modern slavery. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Again, like this is the thinking.
The thinking again. So, yeah, it's just
subhan Allah. Like if we uh that's a
debate that most people do not want to
have cuz you will lose that debate if
you look at Islam on its merits and not
on the so-called fears whatever you'll
see that we have a lot to offer. And not
just that we have solutions to problems
you cannot fix otherwise.
>> What if they say okay you guys are
talking about Islam but look what's
happening in Minnesota. Look what you
Muslim Muslims are doing over there.
>> Sure. Sure. No problem. Right. I I can
come up with two white dudes or two
black dudes or two whatever dudes insert
or whoever you want they do everywhere
statistically speaking this is I think
it's like the was it the FBI database or
whatever but like some federal
government dat have the reference on me
right now but the number one cause of
terrorism in America homegrown homegrown
it's not uh from Muslims or for
immigrants or whatever that's what's
happening I I I live in this country
born and raised you know what I'm I'm
worried I'm not worried about someone
coming over from overseas doing
something. I'm worried about someone
shooting up his kids at the school, an
American from here. This is this country
is like out of control. We we don't want
to address this. Like it's it's ser it's
a serious problem. Every 3 4 days
there's a shooting. Statistically, I
think sometimes even they say like last
year or the year before every two to
three days there's a mass shooting. A
mass shooting.
>> Nobody's talking about their religion.
Nobody's talking about uh
>> um this being the problem. But somehow
Muslims if we get rid of the Muslims,
the Muslims, then we're going to be
okay. But the Muslims are the ones that
cleaning up the streets, cleaning up the
cities, you know, they're they're
talking about like Malcolm X. I I was
watching a clip about this the other
day. They they write out Malcolm X from
from the history books. And then they
always talk about like uh Martin Luther
King. Martin Luther King was talking
about like pacifism and turn the other
cheek and love your enemy, etc. And by
the way, who's pro- Zionist as well. And
Malcolm X is like, "No, stand tall.
Defend your own. Be right." Not not
proviolence. No, but like if someone's
not going to protect you, you protect
yourself. You stand your own. Um,
obviously we don't believe in black
nationalism, but the idea behind it of
like owning your own stores and having
your own economy, keeping the dollar
circulating in your your own committee
for you, by you, etc. That's very very
important thing, but that's a really big
dangerous um uh threat to the status quo
again. And so these are these type ideas
that we need to like really think about
in in in terms of empowering the the the
local community. Um I remember uh uh
Immus
I don't know what that means. That's
like a bunch of garbage. That's like
saying like I wanted you to get in
trouble but you didn't get in trouble.
So did you get in trouble or not? No.
Okay then get out of here. But mah like
on the streets what do they do? Just
like in the before with the Nation of
Islam. I'm not saying he's part of that
but they stand on the streets. There's
no alcohol here. No drugs. Get out of
you you you got to you got to take a
walk. This is a Muslim block. We're
clean here. We don't do these type of
things. like Islam when whenever
statistically speaking when Muslims
migrate to an area they typically
improve the situation they're in scores
like SAT scores standardized scores go
up the economy improves the
professionalism that go there the the
crime rate goes down this is borne out
by statistics on the whole we provide a
service
if you went if you came to my house one
time and you got bit by a mosquito and I
made a poster out of it every single
time you know that there was a mosquito
that came versus you went to the lake
and you get bit by 50 mosquitoes and
that happens every single time. Which
are you more cognizant of? The poster
cuz you see it and that's what the media
does. They come to the one or two. I'm
sorry.
>> Exactly. No, that's the point. Yeah.
>> They put a magnifying glass and it
becomes and and the wording the wording
is everything too. Like this is so
purposeful like you know this is not the
same topic but like for example with
Gaza and what's going what they'll say
like Israelis murdered or killed or an
active verb, right? and then
Palestinians found dead. Like they just
magically happen the same thing. So
they'll blur the lines. They'll say like
um Muslim extremist, Muslim
fundamentalist, Muslim this. They they
put it. But then when a Christian does
something,
>> they don't put the Christian in the
title. They don't put fun. I remember I
can't remember that guy's name. Um uh in
in one of the European countries went
out in like mass shooting bunch of kids.
I believe it was. He wrote a Christian
manifesto. I I don't want to say
Christian isn't it's a tribute to but
like you know that's his belief right he
wrote a man he was not hailed as a
Christian supremacist or extremist or
whatever every single time someone does
something Muslim extremist Muslim this
Muslim and and like even I was watching
Pierce Morgan and they use the word
fundamentalist in a dirty way I've been
saying this you know whatever I've been
saying it then and I'm going to say it
now I've been saying it for 30 years
there's nothing wrong with
fundamentalism fundamentalism means what
you follow the fundamentals the basics
of religion I would argue If you don't
follow the fermentas of religion, you
are not religious. Don't come and tell
me you're religious. But they try and
dirty the water the the word and make it
synonymous with extremism. No. In Islam,
we have extremism. Both sides, right?
Super liberal or super extreme, right?
But fundamentals mean I believe in
just like if a Christian actually
believes in what the the Bible teaches,
that is a fundamentalist. Someone who
actually believes in religion or someone
who wants orthodoxy. That's what we are.
>> But that is not something to be fearing.
What you fear is a person who doesn't
have morals, doesn't have laws, doesn't
have uh something to hold him back,
doesn't have a higher purpose. Someone
who like if you give him the chance,
he's going to do me and for me only and
forget you. The one who goes to sleep.
I'll give you a colloial example. Tupac,
there's a famous clip from long time
ago. I think he called that Trump if I'm
not mistaken. But the point is he was
like how you gonna tell me uh I'm
paraphrasing. I don't remember. But like
you got like 10 rooms in your house. 10
rooms in your house. You make this this
this and then there's people sleeping in
the street and they don't have food. You
got like two fridges. You got this. Like
this is a problem. Don't tell me America
is a country. America is not a country.
We do not have a society here. We just
have a bunch of people out for their
own. And then some people are trying to,
you know, make it work together. But we
don't have a cohesive country. If we
did, we would definitely not be spending
the money we are to kill people and let
people in our own country die. We
shouldn't we shouldn't the the capital
richest country in the world. Shouldn't
have people sleeping in the sewers in
30°ree uh weather every single day. We
shouldn't have homelessness all the
time. We should have unemployment all
the time. We shouldn't have a drug
problem we can't fix. We should have all
these things. Like I I uh forgive me,
stop me point, but like we get in
discussion sometimes at work and I tell
them like, "You know what? Here's this
is my idea. And a lot of times people
like, "Oh, if you run for president, I'm
gonna I'm gonna vote for you." It's a
simple idea. I'm not for a welfare
state. I don't I'm not going to give
handouts for nothing, but I'm totally
fine if someone needed some help. They
got into situation. You know what? Let's
put them up. Let's pay for room and
board. Let's pay for them some
education. Let's find out some aptitude
test. Let's cover their expenses for
like 6 months. We'll get you into like,
you know, give you some testing. He'd be
like, "Well, these are three job
opportunities. What do you want? This,
this, this. Cool." And then you know
what after that based on this you have
to keep this job for the next like year
or two or whatever and if you don't
you're off the the support system but I
am investing I'm actually investing into
my citizens to provide a service to the
community. Likewise I would think that
citizenship not well born whatever I
think should be based on what you
contribute to society. What do you bring
to the table? Are you like a 20
yearear-old who's got chronic back
problems and you're on percoet all say
all day long and getting unemployment
versus you may be an undocumented
someone who's been here for 30 years.
You're paying taxes, social security
which you're never going to see money
out of and you're providing a valuable
service to this country and you're doing
things. That's someone who's got merit,
who's got work ethic, that wants to do
something with them, then doesn't have
one job, doesn't have two jobs,
sometimes three jobs like like we have
so we have a a ton of resources in this
country that we can actually make this
country great if the people in power
actually wanted to make it better if
they wanted to solve the problems.
>> But it's a lot easier to run things when
it's divide and conquer and
>> Yeah, exactly. It's easy to point over
here, use Muslims as a scapegoat. And
just one more point on that. If you look
at any community, if you go into because
you got a lot of um Somalians who are
doing a lot of good, but now you're
trying to paint everybody with the same
brush. Obviously, they don't represent
Islam and they're not the best of us,
but you have Italians like if we look at
the Italians and we try to paint
everyone as the Italian mafia or you
have hundreds, you have hundreds of
thousands right now cases on priests
molesting boys. It's open. It's
happening. We don't say that all
Christians are like that or that's what
Christianity
>> but just right now if you go ahead and
you start to just highlight that like
you were talking about those mosquitoes
just that's it you highlight it I mean
nobody would go to a Catholic church
again they won't leave their kids at all
>> and this is the idea of social
constructionism is like you can create
reality based on a social con uh uh
construct is if you say something enough
times the lie starts to become believed
and then sometimes the people themselves
that are saying it start to believe it
right and So this is very dangerous
because Muslims we are going to we need
to look at things and analyze things for
what they are not what we people are
telling us they should be or we we you
know other people are trying to make it
into what is the reality in the
situation that's the important thing and
so it's very important to stay true
again this goes back to thing you have
to have the ruler you have to have the
yard stick you have to have the measure
stick you have the you have to have
something that you can go back to and
reference is this is true and based on
this or this is right this is wrong and
that's I think a core issue. If we can
agree on right and wrong, we can work
together. Even if we have fundamental
differences other things, we can work
together. Right? You you believe in
this, I believe in this, but you know
what? We both believe. Let's fix uh this
homelessness problem. Let's fix this
this uh um legal issue. Let's fix um uh
food insecurity. Let's fix these broken
homes. There's so many problems we can
fix. And the the weird thing is if we
fix these problems, this country would
naturally prosper.
>> Naturally prosper.
>> It would get so much better. I want to
conclude with this uh because we started
off people freaking out about the Quran
and Madani and I want to give them a
gift at the end when we conclude. How
can people know because we know
emphatically without a doubt that the
Quran revealed over 23 years. You got
prophecies in it.
>> You have so much evidence and proof for
any sincere person asking the creator to
guide them and they read the book. They
look at the life of Prophet Muhammad not
from the hate propaganda because at the
time of Moses there was propaganda
against him. He was slandered at the
time of Jesus peace be upon them both he
was slandered and to this day he's being
slandered and the same thing is being
repeated with Prophet Muhammad. But
there's nobody who takes a scientific
analytical approach looks at the Quran
that will not walk away with this is
indeed from the creator. It's not
possible. There's a test styometric test
styometrics test that they did. This
blows my mind because what they did with
this test, they looked at the Quran and
they concluded that there's one author.
So that takes away the multi-author
theory. That's multiple people. There's
only one
>> and that the person who's writing the
Quran is not Prophet Muhammad because
they they evaluated his there's patterns
in how people write and speak. So we
have his statements in the hadith in
Bkari for example. So they're saying
they evaluate this and they evaluate the
Quran. They say it's not multi-authors,
it's one and it's not prophet Muhammad.
So who who is it?
>> Who is it? And then if you look at all
the evidences, the prophecies,
everything that's in there, the
authenticity, the I mean just the
miracle of
>> it's been unchanged and they have
original first century copies.
>> So that's how I want to leave off with
this. How can someone be convinced to
look at it as a we know it's verbatim
word of God almighty the creator Allah
as a potential book from the creator?
What do you like to tell people to
inspire them to go ahead and look and
read it sincerely?
>> The the the hardest part is you have to
be sincere. That's the first thing,
right? Because if I come to something
even, you know, ironically, even if you
come to it with an agenda, but your
brain actually still would take in new
ideas and you'll read things. Subhan
Allah. Like that's why you have you had
9/11 survivors who accepted Islam. You
have people in Guantanamo Bay from like
the the guards who accepted Islam.
That's why you find some of the
staunchest opponents of Islam who become
Islam. priest becomes there's there's so
many people who went out and they're
like hey listen I want to read this this
book about these enemies I want to kill
us because I watch news and I watch
all this and then they read and they're
like wait that makes sense wait that
makes sense and so I I think first on
sincerity just be sincere with yourself
and be like listen I just want to know
what this I'm not telling you read it to
convert that's up to you right but read
it to just look at its merits on it on
its face value and see does this make
sense does it not whatever and I'm not
talking about like Just Google someone
saying this because a lot of times when
they say things, you look up the
sources, they're not real. They're not
correct. Um I remember after September
11, someone said, "You guys have this
verse about an eagle coming into a
building." I'm like, "No, there's no
eagles mentioned." But yeah, so like
number one, be sincere. I heard a
scholar say something once and I I don't
know if it's true, but it sounds and
it's correct. And he said, "If you make
dua, if you make uh uh a prayer to Allah
to ask for ha guidance, that is one dua,
one uh prayer that is always accepted."
Why? Because there's two things that
happen with dua. Either it is accepted
or it's postponed or the the third thing
is it can be counteracting like a bad
thing that's coming to you. But if
there's no use of Allah answering that
dua in the hereafter because the haya
has to be for now. So if you truly ask
for you truly ask for god to guide you
what is true you're sincere in it Allah
will accept that and Allah gives to whom
he chooses. He is the one who provides
an open heart. So if you that's number
one you have to be sincere in what you
want. Number two read it with an open
mind and see what it says and and sure
go for the challenge. Find some
contradictions in it. Find something
that doesn't make sense. Find historical
inaccuracies. I give you a little hint.
Stood the test of time. 1400 years. No
one can do that. There's a lot of he
said, she said, and mistransations,
whatever. But every single argument
that's been made has fallen flat on its
face. Another thing is look at the
merits that you're saying. Scientific
miracles that you still can't like like
just blow your minds. historical
miracles, prophecies that come in, lack
of um any consistencies, like you know,
we respect our our our our Christian uh
brothers and sisters. Um but like if
you're reading off a manual that has
errors and inconsistencies, you really
have a hard time making an argument what
is correct and what is not. And that's
just, you know, I would tell you in
anything, right? If something you took,
you know, my pages get my book got mixed
up with your book and then the pages got
shoveled and now I don't know who wrote
what. [snorts] I'm not going to go and
execute that on like something as life
or death. I don't know which is correct
and what's not. Who's mine? Who's yours?
What Islam that hasn't happened.
Everything is perfectly per preserved
from day one. And so we need to be
mindful that I don't understand why we
don't take that scientific approach or
that um intellectual approach or that uh
you know aggressive approach with um
intellectual approach sorry when it
comes to something that's going to make
the difference between our salvation
being entering into hellfire or hell
entering into paradise eternally that's
a really long time so we should really
look at that and see and the Allahh make
the challenges the author of the Quran
makes a challenge you will never see in
any other book in the world every book
You read them especially here in America
you see them editors know if you find
this is addition please let us know
we'll update them in the second chapter
in the very beginning he says
this is the book of no doubt from the
beginning stamp I'm telling you you'll
never find inconsistency you'll never
find an error you'll never find a fault
you never something something never find
something that doesn't make sense
doesn't um uh line up with the facts
that's A that's a a bold statement to
stay. So Allahh makes the challenge.
Take them up on it. Sure, no problem.
You know, better people have tried and
they failed and then they do one of two
things. Either they say just don't
listen to Muhammad. Don't listen to
Islam. It's bad. But they can't tell you
why
>> or they say
and someone who yesterday was one of the
staunchest enemies of Islam now becomes
one of the greatest advocates for Islam.
>> Mhm. Submission to the creator, not the
creation. You've been one of the khibs.
You've come and done many here at the
Dean Center. What are your thoughts for
people who've heard about the Dean
Center and the project and now you've
seen it come from the early beginnings
to now. What are your thoughts?
>> I'm super excited. I'm really really
excited. It's it's amazing. I mean uh um
I grew up seeing your interviews for a
very long time. Mah you've been like OG
Mah doing this for quite some time. May
Allah you and and now you're coming down
here. Obviously I'm a little biased
because we're here in Tampa and and uh
we'd love to have like a da powerhouse
down here and really help the brother
and sisters and it's also helpful that
this is not in the Muslim hub. This is
not in the center of town where most of
the Muslims are. This is like average
Joemo area where we can really inshallah
try and make a positive effect or change
for the local Muslims here. Um because
like you said, I've seen the videos a
lot of times we do like what do you know
about Islam? Do you know nothing?
Nothing. And we got to put our hands up,
right? That's on us. That's on us. I
think this is a cop out somewhat, but
it's maybe a little bit of is true.
We came or we raised here. We feel, you
know, um
we're a minority. We feel a little
threatened. We want to hold on to our
our faith. We don't want to be
influenced from outside. So, what's the
first thing we do? We kind of cower in
and just kind of stay away from everyone
else and, you know, stay to our own,
etc. But in Islam, that's not what the
message is about, right? The message is
about
um tell of my coming even if it's one
verse. And if you actually, you know,
claim to love people and like a people
person, you want the best for society,
you want to tell them the truth. You
want to give them that option to hear
about something that's going to improve
and better their lives. And that's the
one thing and I I think I'm sure mah you
know this better than anyone is that
there's no one like I remember one of
the brothers asking someone on one of
the podcasts he's like what's what's the
best thing give me the number one best
thing you tell people about Islam the
the the strongest proof it differs for
every single person if you're scientific
we're going to give you scientific
miracle if you're like you're
heartwarmer you want a beautiful story
about the mercy of Allahh eta if you're
someone who um uh wants the the uh um
the the the [snorts] majestic nature,
the artistic nature of the Quran would
do like things like that. So it it
speaks to different people in different
ways and our job is to go out and convey
that in the various many different ways
Allahh um has uh told us in it call
on to Allah in the best way but also the
best way and I love how you give you
know free Quran you invite but also we
have to forget we have to not forget
something we are walking talking dies
whether we like it or or not, whether we
live up to or not. And I'm putting my
hand up. I'm not like saying I'm a
better, but like, you know, I I use the
example like if you're at work and
people see you cursing and yelling and
acting bad and you're shady and you're
not.
>> Don't come and tell me you're
>> doing scams.
>> Yeah. You're you're not you're not going
to sell Islam like that, right? You're
not. But when people see, man, this
guy's different. I don't even know why.
I don't know what what is this guy like?
He's Indian or something. He's got a
weird name. I don't know who he's from.
You know, I say that because like people
just assume either like you're Spanish
or Indian, but I don't know. You're this
this. I don't know where he's from. But
he doesn't curse. Oh, he doesn't lie.
He's very honest. He shows people
respect. What? What? Why? And I I'm not
the type where like I push dawa. I I
type to take the more laid-back
approach. People know like for example,
when I'm at work, I go to go pray. I let
them know, hey, I'm going to go pray. I
don't answer questions about that much.
I let them ask the question. And when
they ask a question then you have a nice
opportunity or they're tell
why why aren't you eating I'm fasting I
say curiosity why why are you fasting
let me tell you you know and so
inquisitiveness
used to do this he ask the questions and
it's very very nice way to do that
versus like brother you need to accept
Islam you're going to hell no that's not
how you do it right you want to show the
character of Islam the Indonesia not a
single Muslim army ever set foot in
Malaysia or Indonesia and they have over
a 100 million Muslims 100 million
Muslims from trade from Muhammad from
good character that's that's da that's
Islam and action right oh I think it's
Ralph Waldo Emerson has a quote that I
love says what you are screams so loudly
in my ear that I cannot hear what you
say
>> talk is cheap show me we need to rise to
the level whether it's to the other the
non-Muslims or even like to our
children, right? I talk about this too
like I can't expect my kids to be good
Muslims if I'm not being good Muslim.
You know back in the day when we used to
have like a landline and that's the only
way and someone call and you'd be like
uh blah blah blah someone's calling for
you. What do you tell him? Uh tell him
I'm not here. You're teaching your kids
to lie and then you get angry like few
years later when he grows up and he lies
to you. So we should be if if what we
want we have to project it out on the
world we have to fix ourselves and
that's the hardest thing the hardest
thing for people is to change
>> to change but alhamdulillah the miracle
of the Quran miracle of Islam sometimes
people they don't find contentment they
don't find peace they don't find the the
solution to their problems they won't
find a reason for existence and they're
looking and they're hungry because your
stomach needs food your brain needs
needs information but your soul it needs
Islam and nothing fills that except the
of Allah and that's why Allah says
you can have 20 yachts 50 cars 30 houses
a bunch of you know whatever drugs
alcohol and then you commit suicide
because you just still can't be happy or
you're living in the need with the
needle all day long or you can have
nothing you know subhan Allah I was
watching these videos it's still like
stuck with me and it like it made me
change me these non-Muslims non-Muslims
on YouTube watching I remember this one
the one guy in in he's like what are you
complaining about they're in Jenna say
alhamdulillah and they're like washing
the body say alhamdulillah they're in
Jenna there's no problem Allah this is
the promise of Allah it reminds you of
the where Allah is telling you when the
people come and they're gathering and
they're coming for you and they're going
to destroy you And they say what
um uh
their iman increased. Why? You you're in
a fear situation. You remember this is
the promise of Allah. Allah promised. He
promised that when you do the right
things, you're going to be tested.
You're going to be challenged. I think
this is an issue that a lot of people in
western society don't understand. When
you do what God wants, you will be
tested for your faith. And the higher
your faith, the tougher the test. And so
we need to rise to that challenge and
try and do good and try to be good
Muslims. And then we understand the test
is going to become be coming. But that's
what makes it worthwhile and that's what
makes that difficulty. Inshallah that's
the price. That's the the price of
admission, right? You got you got to put
something on the table. You have to
there you got to put leave some skin in
the game. That's what it goes. And we
don't ask for for fitna. We don't ask to
be tested. But we just know that Allahh
tells us
Did people think that they'll be left
alone to declare their belief and not be
tested? We got to we got to understand
the test is coming. We do the best we
can. Inshallah we be good Muslims. We
stay on the righteous path. And
inshallah we will be given reward for
that. But we have to do our part. We
have to be trying to be good Muslims.
And like I said, the the brothers over
there look at what they're dealing with.
And then the non-Muslims watch these
videos and they're like, "These people
crazy. They [snorts] lost their mom,
dad, brother, sister, whatever,
whatever. And they're saying,
"Alhamdulillah, they're not cursing.
They're not yelling. They're they're
accepting what God said. I got to go
read this." What? What they say? I got
to go read. They non-Muslims are picking
up the Quran and reading it. And then
they're accepting it. And we we have the
Quran in our book, in our dashboard, in
our glove box, in our library, and we're
not reading it. We're not reading it.
There's a problem. There's a problem. We
want dawa. We need to be good Muslims.
When we good are good Muslims, we'll
naturally project that da. I'm not
saying that there's no place for going
out and, you know, discussing and
hosting events and debates. I love that.
That's great. But that's not all what da
is. Da also we have to walk the walk,
not just talk the talk.
>> That's right. Absolutely. Thank you, Dr.
Ramy.
>> Thank you for being with us. Thanks for
being with me. And I want to thank you
guys for tuning in.
>> And you heard about the Quran now. And I
want to give you uh
>> so sorry I I kind of I hinted at that
already.
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