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and he is is I brother I think he's
there with us already brother are you
there absolutely I'm here brother you
know I really enjoyed it when you were
in town last time we had a great time
how you been I loved it you know I just
wish I was in town this time but you
know we're over the this time so
alhamdulillah but should I give him the
good news absolutely go for it you know
that he's coming back inshallah is that
right insh we're going to plan that and
uh and do it right all right
alhamdulillah but today we're going to
be discussing a a serious topic and
we're going to get straight into it like
we always do here on the dean show radio
show a a sister uh sh came out she wrote
in and and she had a question or no this
is actually a brother who wrote in I'm
sorry I apologize I'm going to read the
question and then we can go ahead and
discuss this are you ready sure go ahead
this is from a brother who's writing in
and it goes a little something like this
he said assalam Alum which means peace
be with you he says I'm a 20-year-old
man and yesterday was the worst day of
my life I let my desires take control
and I committed the grave sin of
Zena I've never felt this shame before
he's says it's so powerful I can barely
cope with it I feel embarrassed getting
into the details so we're not going to
get into any details
here and he says I don't know how to
repent correctly so he's wondering how
he can repent now and he needs some
advice he needs some help so we wanted
to talk about this because this is
something prevalent nowadays this is
something that you know it seems like
it's kind of normal so talk to us what
do you what what what what does Islam
have to say about this and let's get
into this uh topic uh K all right okay
very good first of all let me Begin by
saying uh you know it's a very saddening
email and it's like you're saying you
know very serious topic and you can see
the brother how he is say I can barely
cope with with the power of this shame
you know it's a it's a really bad Sin
but a lot of times you find people
asking questions like how do I repent
correctly from Zena or how do I repent
correctly from any other sin more or
less there's certain basic guidelines
that are the same no matter what the sin
is and the first thing for the correct
repentance there are three specific
things the first thing is to give up the
sin immediately give it up and the and
yeah and these are just very natural
things I mean you can't for example stop
stealing while you're stealing you have
to give up the sin right that's the
first thing and so inshallah that is the
case you can tell in with the brother
because of the shame and the guilt that
he felt that he stopped the sin that's
the first thing the second is to have
regret about doing it and have remorse
in your heart you feel bad that you did
it because I'm sure you know Ed how some
people they they do a sin and it's like
nothing happened no regret whatsoever
you know even if they say I'm not going
to do it again no regret and that's not
a good sign so so this is a good thing
that he said that this was the worst day
of my life this absolutely if he felt
that he just you know you know did
something good and he he had an
accomplishment then that is something
that's that's makes the sin even worse
because some people some people after
this happens to them they they buoyantly
happily say that you know this was the
best day of my life exactly and these
are actually some of the worst people in
the um the prophet wasam said these are
the worst people because Allah conceals
their their sin and they come and reveal
it to people is not I mean that's one of
the worst thing ever so it's very so
first thing you give up the sin second
thing you regret and you have remorse
that it happened and and then the third
thing is that you resolve to never go
back to it again all right now for the
like I said for the most part most sins
that's the way you repent from them and
sometimes the scholars add that if it's
if it's someone that you wronged then
you would go and also either seek their
forgiveness or you fix what you have
done wrong to that person
all right but for the most part these
are the three things a lot of times
people say how do I repent from Z or I
did something how do I repent besides
these three things you know or the
fourth if if you know if you do
something wrong to to someone then it's
just the same um and just let me say
this in case a lot of people are
thinking it a lot of times when people
sin or they do something where there is
a a prescribed punishment in an Islamic
State right which we don't have that
obviously yes so they feel that well the
prescribed punishment in involved a
physical punishment and now I can't get
the physical punishment because I live
in America or Canada or the UK or
Australia so what do I do well what you
do is you repent that's it you repent
give it up uh regret that you did it and
resolve to never go back to it and
that's so there's hope it's not the end
of the world now absolutely and Allah
subh will forgive any sin as long as
even shik which is the worst sin
worshiping something besides Allah Allah
will forgive that so long as you repent
before you die so even if sh is going to
be forgiven then no doubt even things
like murder alcohol stealing and Zena
which is fornication or illicit sexual
behavior will be forgiven as well but
the question is we don't know this is
the difference between Islam and other
religions no one can tell you go you
have been forgiven so you keep doing
good deeds you keep making Dua you keep
repenting because we're not sure we're
forgiven or not there there's not a man
in a box that you can go see and tell
him look look this is what happened give
him the details and then he'll give you
a prescription of what to do and then
say hey go have a nice day never never
you cannot go to that guy and that guy
doesn't know he doesn't even have any
guarantee that that you've been forgiven
but so so we don't have none of that so
you just it's between you and Allah and
there is no one to come between between
you and Allah or intercede between you
and Allah you just keep asking
forgiveness and keep doing good deeds to
make up for the bad deed and that's it
tell us tell us let's back it up a
little bit because some of our brothers
in humanity that we want to be our
brothers in faith okay they might drop
in sometimes and we encourage them to
come visit us here at the dean show all
the time all right good now they might
say you know what we agree okay you know
what I like what the Muslims are saying
worship the one God the Creator alone
without any Associates this makes a lot
of sense let me see all the other things
that you know you have to do here in
Islam and now they say well what's the
big deal they might be listening to this
and say well in the back of their head
because it's a programming that you know
we're used to we get desensitized to a
lot of these things so they say is this
really a big deal to consenting adults
it's a it's they're not hurting anybody
right exactly and and that's what not
just do they not only do they say to
Consulting consenting adults but also
they'll add things like uh you know
they'll they'll add euphemisms you know
it's a nice sounding word to make
something bad sound good so they won't
even say fornication I mean you don't
find high school kids saying I
fornicated no you don't find grown men
saying I had uh I committed adultery
they say what I had an affair and it
sounds so much nicer they say you know
sleeping together they say they have so
many kinds of words I mean I'm sure in
the slang there are like tons of these
words that make it sound like something
really simple and innocent and if you're
too Consulting consenting adults then
what's the problem with that and that's
where we see the effects of of Zena on
society there's so many bad things that
happen as a result of Zena but most
important thing def definest word you
just said Zena what does that mean yeah
so basically Zena is is Arabic so it
means the fornication it's when two
people who are not married nor is there
any doubt that they're like married or
misunderstanding that they're married of
they're married or not can perform like
or have illicit sexual intercourse and
they're not married this is um what we
refer to in Arabic as Zen or in English
as fornication and so it has become so
common that most people don't say say
anything wrong with it if the woman was
consenting the man was consenting then
there's no problem and of course the big
problem is that is that this is not
accepted by Allah so so if two people
agree to do something doesn't make it
okay because it's not okay in the sight
of Allah subhana tala that's the big
problem so you you've got to come to a
level of realization that look you
didn't just pop out of nowhere somebody
created you and there's a law he wants
you to live by you first have to come to
that realization before you get into
some of these things because if you're
living according to your whims and
desires then this really you know
there's we got to back it up even
further then right and this is why
people really need Allah and they really
need religion because by themselves you
know a society can pick any set of
values and say this is okay this is
acceptable this is permissible and it's
not acceptable in the sight of Allah and
you know there many things that have
been and there have been Societies in
the past where you know um you know
sodomy was accepted you know or kind of
a pedophilia type of thing was accepted
and and it was okay for them but it
doesn't mean it's okay in the S of Allah
and that's why we always need to go back
to Allah to tell us right from wrong
what is acceptable what is not
acceptable who is Allah and Allah of
course is God or the name of God in
Arabic and he's the god of Moses the god
of Abraham the god of Jesus and the god
of Muhammad sallahu alaihi wasallam so
to the Creator this is not acceptable is
this
categorized as a major law break sin
absolutely this is one of the major sins
you know the there's a Hadith the saying
of the Prophet Muhammad Sall alhi
wasallam where he says that the one who
the so because the scholars would always
ask which is worse you know wine or like
consuming alcohol or committing Zena
fornication and so they said the Hadith
says that the one who consumes alcohol
he will come on the day of judgment as
if was an idol worshipper like he will
he's SE it's so serious what he did that
he will come at the level or the degree
of an idol worshipper on the day of
judgment that is really really bad this
is an alcohol addict right but Allah
subh in the Quran whenever he mentions
sh which is the worst sin murder the
third one is what Zena so that's why the
scholar say Zena is worse fornication is
worse even than alcohol because Allah
mentions it right after sh worshiping
other Idols or things besides Allah two
murder and three Zen so Zen is very very
serious even if it's rampant in society
even you know every other movie has
either a mention or indication of Zena
or a scene with Zena in it magazines
mentioning Zena they sell the from the
cover there's always a mention of Zena
on it and that's how they sell it
internet one of the biggest uses of the
Internet is just Zen so uh it's so
common on all over the place that most
people don't say anything wrong with it
anymore just like you were saying yes
tell us before we go into I'm going to
ask you a little bit about the history
of this but I want to know and I want
the viewers to know what we're striving
for what our
main agenda is we as Muslims ones who
have taken this free choice that we have
in life either to submit to our desires
or to submit to the one that created us
we've chosen to do that so we worship
the one God alone without any co-equal
co-partners and we're doing all the good
that he told us to do we're trying
humbly to do that because we want to be
in Paradise we know that death is
approaching at any
time teens die babies die old people die
whites die blacks die yellow people die
brown people die pink people die people
die every day we know that so we're not
trying to get attached to this life
we're trying to be the best in this life
so we can have the best in the next life
so we want paradise and we want to avoid
the Hellfire can you just take a minute
and describe give the Glad
Tidings of this beautiful reward that is
awaiting the one who lives a wholesome
organic life according to how the
Creator wants him or her to live EXC
describe par Hellfire what we're trying
to avoid please excellent no problem you
know uh let let me start by saying
saying this okay I mean first of all
there there's a all of us every
believing man woman their their ultimate
goal should be to enter paradise and we
shouldn't lose sight of that but the
problem is Allah described this world
that it's full of glitter it's full of
lights and it's full of things that
distract us from that goal and so if
there wasn't you know any of the
distractions in the D we would all be
100% focused on the next life which is
the whole point of this life is to get
it to the right place in the next life
but because the world is full of
destructions uh destructions could be
gold it could be wealth it could be
children it could be just amassing
luxuries and all kinds of other things
of the material world or also the
prophet wasallam said the biggest test
for men would be women so it could be a
woman that leads someone astray or puts
them away from their religion and things
of that sort so the believer is the one
who focuses on their goal properly their
goal is to make it into paradise and
Paradise it's been surrounded with
things that are difficult to do so
basically it means in order to get to
Paradise you have to go through
difficulty and make it over obstacles
the Hellfire on the other hand it's been
surrounded by desires so it's been
surrounded by all the things that people
desire and want to do whether they're
prohibited or not and so they want to do
the if you do these things they will
lead to the
Hellfire now of course in anything that
you want that is great you have to work
for it you know those who want you know
a big house house they work for it those
who want a great degree they have to
work for it so those who want Jen they
need to work for it and they work for it
because it is fantastic there is I mean
it's eternal life if if that was the
only description we gave eternal life in
just Bliss and happiness and and no
worries and no pain and no then that
would just by itself be enough but
beyond that the prophet sallallahu
alaihi wasallam described that in it is
what no eye has ever seen and not only
that but what not what has not even
occurred to anyone's imagination me and
you Eddie right now mhm if we start this
trying to create or imagine a new color
our mind is limited I mean we will only
think of a color that's a variation of
existing colors right yes but you might
go walk into J and you see colors that
you never even imagined were possible
tastes things that you could taste and
smell that you could never even imagine
were possible and then you this life
where you don't uh get tired you don't
sleep you don't sweat even you don't
feel any pain you don't have to pay rent
you don't have to run around to get your
food you don't have any kind of not even
the slightest type of discomfort or
fatigue not the slightest type of
discomfort I mean not even the
discomfort where you see someone who has
something better than you that type of
jealousy any kind of discomfort doesn't
exist now imagine you can live this life
for all eternity boredom doesn't doesn't
exist boredom doesn't it nothing I mean
of any the slightest discomfort exists
not even for example the discomfort
associating with with with waiting for
something you don't have to wait for a
meal there you don't have to wait
for sorry traffic you don't have to wait
for traffic you don't have to even wait
for your plants to grow because in Jenna
some people feel like planting something
you don't even have the pain of waiting
for okay when is it going to sprout
every no kind of discomfort whatsoever
and this life being Eternal then who on
Earth then would not want to be in that
place but the problem is like we said
the world has its glitter you know if I
can bring this to back to our topic of
Zena if you look at one of the rewards
also of staying away from Zen you know
the Hadith when Allah subh mentions or
the prophet mentions how they will be on
the day of Resurrection when everyone's
resurrected billions of people standing
on Earth the Sun will be brought down
just a mile away from people heads
really really I mean it's millions of
miles away now and it's so hot so it'll
be only a mile away from people's heads
and there will be only seven types of
people who will be under the shade of
the Throne of Allah subhana tal on that
day and in that extreme heat and people
will wait for 50,000 years with the with
the sun right on top of their heads but
one of the the types of people that will
be under the shade of the Throne of
Allah is a young man who was offered Zen
or a woman of stature status and Beauty
offered the or called the man to elicit
sexual relations and he said no he said
in I fear Allah the lord of the worlds
the interesting thing here is that he
doesn't go to her out of fear of Allah
he doesn't say oh I'm afraid we might
get caught that's why I can't go any of
that sort so he actually did it out of
fear of Allah he gets his fantastic
reward on the other hand the prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam in one of his
dreams and he and it's known that the
dream of the Prophet is true right yes
so the Angels Came and they took the
prophet wasam you know to the heavens
and he saw people being punished in the
Hellfire he said We Came Upon A a tan
which is kind of like an oven in the
ground you know like in some countries
you'll find they have the heat and they
cook the things underground yes he said
we found like a like an underground oven
it's like a pit and there were people in
it and there were bad odors and
everything coming out of it and he asked
who are these people and said these are
the people who commit fornication the
fornicators yeah the fornicators it
doesn't matter if they were consenting
or not they were all thrown into this
this pit in the
Hellfire so go ahead go ahead right now
we talked about the Delights of paradise
the running for rewards and then staying
away from Zena we're going to take a
break and we're going to continue with
my brother and your brother sheal mecki
we'll be right back on the dean show
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he created the
universe to him belong the heavens and
the
Earth the ever living He is the
first he's the owner of
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Mercy he sent his
Messengers to on his
creatures of the Grave Danger
a worship in Allah than
Allah there is none
greater than the
Creator
all
Allah there is none
greater than the Creator
you have to pray as if everything
depends on Allah and it does but you
must work as if everything depends on
you and it doesn't that's my point you
see what I'm saying and I don't like
that I don't like us sitting here what
are you waiting for what are we waiting
for right now what are you waiting for
all these people to come to Islam what
are we waiting for what are we waiting
for right now when they going to come
they're going to come going to bring
these people Allah put in our hand the
ability to do it now do your
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job back here on the dean show radio
show and before we left off we talked
about that pit and this is where those
who choose not to live according to how
the crater wants them to live and in
that good old that good organic goodness
we talked about and then striving for
Paradise they choose to live according
to their whims and desires not worrying
about the ramifications continue on
please excellent you know I want to uh
to talk a little bit about how Zena or
when Zena first started in in for human
beings you know yes please tell us
because because Allah created Adam right
that's the first man the first man Adam
and was created by Allah and then Adam
had two sons and every time he actually
when Adam would give birth he would get
a boy and a girl and a boy and a girl
and obviously creation wasn't going to
continue unless there was marriage
between the children but the the the the
rule was that the boy would marry the
other twin sister not his own twin
sister the the next daughter this is the
start of the human race now exactly the
start of the human race there was nobody
so Adam gave birth and or obviously Eve
got gave birth haah and she gave birth
to a boy his name was K and then had a
sister and then later on she gave birth
again and there was another boy his name
was habil and he had a sister so this is
Cain and Abel K and Hab yes and what
happened was that uh habil was basically
he had he was a little rough um in
nature a little harsh and uh and Hab was
very
gentle the rough one he was a farmer and
the gentle one was
he dealt with sheep so start to have ill
feelings towards his brother we're not
going to get into the details behind
that there a bunch of incidents that
created this ill feeling and he started
to threaten his brother Abel or or Hab
that I'm going to kill you and and Hab
said you know if you if you attempt to
kill me I'm not going to try to kill you
back you know if that's what you want to
do yes So eventually killed him and when
he killed him he was overtaken by a
sense of guilt so he buried him and out
of Shame he couldn't meet his father the
prophet Adam he was too ashamed so he
took his wife and he went away into the
mountains and they lived there for years
and they had children and The Offspring
started to increase in the mountains
they had no shik they didn't worship
anything but besides Allah but they
start to have a lot of bad deeds and
evil things occur in the people of the
mountains in the meantime the the people
the good people so the evil people now
in the mountains The Offspring of the
good people lived on the flat lands with
Adam and the other sons of Adam yes now
uh what happened was that the people in
the mountains Allah decreed that their
men were very handsome and the women
were not beautiful and the people in the
flat lands the women were very beautiful
and the men were not attractive you see
so it's just it's just really the
opposite now so you would imagine that
these men would be attracted to those
women because they're pretty and the
women would be attracted to the handsome
men yes so now this is now the first
generation or generations of of of
people ever on the planet and the Shan
or
Satan he wanted to create FNA between
those two people notice what he does
very interesting he comes in the form of
a young boy and guess what he starts to
teach the people of the flat lands
what's that amazing he starts to teach
them music and singing and
fluts notice it's interesting he didn't
go to the evil people he went to the
good people first because the good
people had the the attractive women and
if you can attract the men to the women
then you got it that's one of the
easiest things because this is the
biggest test for a man is a woman he's
trying to start a party here exactly's
trying to start a party so you need the
you know the the music and all that
stuff yeah and so when the people of the
mountains started to hear the music in
the flat lands they became interested
and they started to draw near this was
the time of a prophet called sheath or
in English Seth and and in the in the
Shar in the law of the Prophet she it
was forbidden for the sons of Hab to mix
with the sons of so the people of the
mountain it was forbidden for them to
mix with the people of the flat lands
but one day a man one man it just
started off with one man from the
mountains went down and he mixed with
the people of the flat lands and he saw
how attractive their women were he went
back told his people they all came down
to see the women on the on the day ofid
in which the women were or you know
adorned and beautified themselves and
that's when the first sin of Zena
occurred but what's interesting in the
story is that you know uh first of all
music was one of the things used to
facilitate Zen yes and that's one of the
names used to give it and he also went
to the good people first so it's not
that a lot of times people are very
confident um when it comes to their IM
you know what I'm talking about like yes
they like a man will be talking to a
woman and they might even be alone he
said no I'll just test my IM inshallah
nothing will happen why do people do
that I still don't have the answer for
that you know but people don't test
anything else that's valuable to them
you know if you love your laptop you
don't leave it in a in in a public place
just to see if it'll be okay because you
love it you don't test it you don't
leave the keys in your car in a bad
neighborhood to test if it's going to be
okay but people test their Iman a lot
you know people will start praying with
the television on to test if they can
have if they can have the proper Focus
or not or people will sit and talk to
girls and women and might even enter a
party and see in nothing will happen I'm
going to test myself don't test yourself
don't test your IM the prophet warned us
of intermingling he said the woman is
the biggest test so for the male don't
test yourself when it comes to women and
for the woman the same thing don't test
yourself when it comes to that is is
this for the betterment of society we
love our sisters we love
them very much and we want the best for
our brothers and sisters but we want the
best but Allah the creator of the
heavens and the Earth he knows the best
and he obviously wants the best so is
this for the betterment of the human
race and Society absolutely one one of
the things what the scholars did they
looked at all the rules of Islam right
every Rule and law that's in Islamic
Shar that was revealed by Allah or
taught by the prophet s wasallam and
they categorized them and they that all
of these laws they come for with six
specific aims so the laws came to
protect human life very simply by saying
you can't kill anybody right and
prohibiting anything that will endanger
your life so suicide murder drugs all
these things endanger your life right
yes so Islam prohibited anything that
will danger endanger the life Islam
wanted to protect your wealth for
example so it made stealing Haram it
made the strong punishment for stealing
it made usury Haram it put so many rules
on business dealings why to protect
people's wealth one of the things Islam
came to protect was the family people's
lineage so everyone would know who their
father is protect the family the
structure of the family in order to do
that they had to be strict laws on
illicit sexual relationship outside of
marriage and at the same time Islam made
marriage so easy in order to avoid Zena
and when what the effects of Zena are a
whole list of those things how they
affect society how they affect women how
they affect individuals how do they
affect children Zena has so many bad
effects so it's Way Beyond you saying
you know what as long as they're two
cons consenting adults it's actually far
worse than that when we look into that
inshallah give the viewers some
excitement and motivation because we're
going to have to have this program going
into part two so get them excited to
come back next week and give us kind of
some little flashes of what you're going
to be talking about okay next week's
show I'll tell you something interesting
okay I'm going to link Zena fornication
to many of the problems that creates in
society now I tell you most of us know
there's one problem of Zena illegitimate
children in society people not knowing
who their father is there's AIDS and
other kinds of veneral sexually
transmitted diseases right we know all
that but I'm also going to link Zena to
rape all right I'm going to link Zena to
homosexuality how is that going to
happen well we're going to have to wait
and see yeah we're going to link Zen to
all kinds of other things that you won't
you wouldn't even expect we're going to
link it to serial killers for example
yes and and there's a strong link behind
that and we find that Zena creates more
Zena in society once people start
fornicating more people start
fornicating we're going to look at some
studies that talk about what you know
when people fornicate what's the effect
it has on the siblings effect effects it
has on the Father the parents I mean
just unbelievable things so and it's
just such a long list that when you
cannot never after this list say well
you know what uh it's just to consenting
adults it's beyond that and of course
there also you know severe punishments
for it in the next life as we looked at
but we also want to talk about how Islam
puts ways for you to prevent yourself
from falling into zen and that's very
important for our listeners so we don't
fall into that and we don't even test
ourselves when it comes to that area
we're going to continue God willing
inshallah with part two thank you for
helping us cover this and we look
forward to continuing on with you next
week brother all right thanks for having
me thank you sh and we call you come
back to come back next week here on the
dean show radio show we'll have sh Kamal
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