Hey Christians, yeah, you you don't
follow Jesus and you can't.
Hey Christians, yeah, you you don't follow Jesus and you can't. You follow
someone's version of Jesus.
We have what appears to be an ex pastor
warning Christians. We'll have a
discussion around that.
Here are the facts. Jesus never
discussion around that. Here are the facts. Jesus never wrote
anything down. We have no direct words
from him, only stories written decades
later by people
from him, only stories written decades later by people who never met him.
We'll also be discussing this viral
video.
America is
video. America is a Christian nation. So those
terrorist Muslims give off to any of the
57 Muslim
terrorist Muslims give off to any of the 57 Muslim nations
of a Christian lady burning the Quran
with a former Christian.
This is
time for the
People,
are you ready for the
[Music]
My next guest accepted
[Music] My next guest accepted Islam at the age
of 19 and soon after began his life
journey
of 19 and soon after began his life journey of seeking knowledge with over
25 years of teaching, experience, and
countless less
25 years of teaching, experience, and countless less life lessons. He has much
wisdom to share with us. And today we'll
hear his
wisdom to share with us. And today we'll hear his journey, his story along with
the warning from the Christian pastor,
the Christians,
the warning from the Christian pastor, the Christians, and also the circus
clowns burning the Quran. We got a lot
to talk about with
clowns burning the Quran. We got a lot to talk about with my next guest, Sheh
Khaled.
And we didn't just have an average
person accept
And we didn't just have an average person accept Islam. We had the legend
po Gracie
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Ashadu
Ashu Ashadu alah
Illah
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Illah Most of you out there know our brother
Habib. Now beforeh Khabib there was Hois
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Gracie there wouldn't be no UFC. What's the moral of the story? that if we can
have people like Hois Gracie, the
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have people like Hois Gracie, the legendary Bruce Lee of our time, come
and visit the dean center and not only
visit but take
and visit the dean center and not only visit but take his shahada. Imagine all
of the other people who know zero to
nothing about
of the other people who know zero to nothing about Islam will able to come in
and learn and inshallah go from being
Abu Jah to
and learn and inshallah go from being Abu Jah to potentially Abu Talibs or
even like Ho Gracie accepting Islam. And
that's where you guys come in. help us
to get up open and running.
How are you doing?
Alhamdulillah.
We thank Allah subhana wa tala.
Alhamdulillah.
I'm going to um dig into your story. I
want to get right into this video and
I'm sure it's going to because you come
from a Christian background.
Yes.
Yeah. So, this is a this is an
ex-Christian pastor that we're going to
show and then we're
ex-Christian pastor that we're going to show and then we're going to answer some
of those points and connect it to your
show story before we get into the circus
clown.
Sounds good.
All right.
Hey, Christians. Yeah, you
All right. Hey, Christians. Yeah, you you don't
follow Jesus and you can't. You follow
someone's version of Jesus.
follow Jesus and you can't. You follow someone's version of Jesus. Here are the
facts. Jesus never wrote anything down.
We have no direct words from him. Only
stories written decades later by people
who never met him. The earliest gospel,
Mark, was
who never met him. The earliest gospel, Mark, was written around 40 years after
his supposed life based on oral
traditions that change over time
his supposed life based on oral traditions that change over time and are
shaped by the biases of storytellers.
The authors of the gospels are
completely
The authors of the gospels are completely anonymous. The names Matthew,
Mark, Luke, and John were attached later
by church tradition.
Mark, Luke, and John were attached later by church tradition. Then centuries
after that, councils of men decided
which books would be even in
after that, councils of men decided which books would be even in your Bible
and which books they would call heresy.
This means that every single verse
and which books they would call heresy. This means that every single verse that
you read is passed down through the
filter of human decision-making. And
today,
filter of human decision-making. And today, there are over 45,000 Christian
denominations, each with different
today, there are over 45,000 Christian denominations, each with different ideas
of who Jesus is and what he meant. Which
one is right? You can't know.
of who Jesus is and what he meant. Which one is right? You can't know. So, no,
you don't follow Jesus. You follow an
interpretation that
you don't follow Jesus. You follow an interpretation that was built, edited,
debated, and sold by human beings for
the last 2,000 years.
All right. Sh. So, did you know these
things that the um I guess this is an
pastor
things that the um I guess this is an pastor giving warning to Christians?
What goes through your mind when you
hear this?
Uh,
actually it goes a whole lot deeper. Um,
so when you actually get
actually it goes a whole lot deeper. Um, so when you actually get into um the
history of Christianity, I always try to
be very careful
history of Christianity, I always try to be very careful about this. Um because
human psychology whenever we are
be very careful about this. Um because human psychology whenever we are um
dealing with uh deeply rooted beliefs
right where
dealing with uh deeply rooted beliefs right where we are attaching our
personality and our understanding of our
our selfidentity
personality and our understanding of our our selfidentity right with these
beliefs if you attack them directly
our selfidentity right with these beliefs if you attack them directly then
a lot of times you're going to trigger a
defense response. So, and then
a lot of times you're going to trigger a defense response. So, and then that's
kind of like a barrier goes up and logic
kind of like goes behind the
kind of like a barrier goes up and logic kind of like goes behind the emotional,
you know, response that you're going to
you're going to get from them. But um
100% I mean it's goes a whole lot deeper
when you actually start talking about
you know the pre-existence
when you actually start talking about you know the pre-existence of
monotheistic Christianity and versus
polistic Christianity the Nian
convention uh Constantine um you know
the uh the
convention uh Constantine um you know the uh the Roman Empire the Byzantine
Empire actually making a decision as far
as what is
Empire actually making a decision as far as what is going to be the official
religion of the state because the same
thing that
religion of the state because the same thing that happened uh you know in
Europe you know when you're talking
about the King James version of the
Bible
there was a tension
Bible there was a tension that existed.
So you have this again you have this
religious belief and then
So you have this again you have this religious belief and then you have this
belief in this state right and these are
two totally different forms of
leadership.
two totally different forms of leadership. So with those two totally
different forms of leadership the
question comes is that okay
different forms of leadership the question comes is that okay if there are
contradicting orders that are given to
the people who are the masses
contradicting orders that are given to the people who are the masses going to
follow. So there was a almost like an
attempt to unify
follow. So there was a almost like an attempt to unify um these two
uh if you say variables if you will
right in the lives of the general masses
right to bring them together and um
right in the lives of the general masses right to bring them together and um thus
we get you know polistic Christianity as
the predominant form and then
monotheistic
the predominant form and then monotheistic Christianity was actually
they tried to eradicate it.
So we're
they tried to eradicate it. So we're talking about destroying
monasteries, burning books, killing
monks and everything.
monasteries, burning books, killing monks and everything. And uh Paul is
actually mentioned in the Bible in acts
he actually encounters
actually mentioned in the Bible in acts he actually encounters the the disciples
of Isaam and when this happens
he actually encounters the the disciples of Isaam and when this happens you know
he wants to change the the the laws of
Moses the laws of Mus Alam
Paul
Paul right so Paul this Paul is not the
Paul like talking about the disciples
this
Paul like talking about the disciples this Paul is Saul of Taosus and so he
was a tax collector and
this Paul is Saul of Taosus and so he was a tax collector and long story short
he's on the road to Damascus bright
light says he saw uh Jesus in a vision
he fell off his horse etc. And now all
of a sudden he comes and this is when he
encounters
of a sudden he comes and this is when he encounters he never met Isa he never met
Jesus. Then he encounters the disciples
and he starts saying, "Oh, I'm gonna
change this and I'm gonna change that."
And they're like, "Guy, who do you think
you are? Like we were the ride or die
guys with him that like we stayed with
him, right?
guys with him that like we stayed with him, right? We went through all of this
stuff with him and you come out of
nowhere, never met him, and you start
talking about you're going to change
things."
talking about you're going to change things." So, they run them off. And then
now this is where you start getting um,
you know, that's the reason why the New
Testament is mostly these uh epistles,
right? Or
Testament is mostly these uh epistles, right? Or the the letters of Paul.
That's this Paul Saul of Tarsus and he
goes on this you know mission where he
starts the absorption of the various
religions
starts the absorption of the various religions that he now encounters and
this is where you get the theory of the
trinity the theory of
this is where you get the theory of the trinity the theory of redemption etc so
on and so forth so when you're looking
at Christianity
regardless of the denomination
um it is very hard
regardless of the denomination um it is very hard for them um it is
very hard for them to academically
right? Prove their their stance and
their points. And this becomes
right? Prove their their stance and their points. And this becomes a huge
issue for them. But here's the catch.
Most of Christianity
issue for them. But here's the catch. Most of Christianity is based on
tradition which developed after the fact
which he is addressing, right?
tradition which developed after the fact which he is addressing, right? And then
it's also very much rooted in emotional
responses,
right?
responses, right? And that's where a lot of the
problems are going to come when we give
da is that it's not
problems are going to come when we give da is that it's not based on academics.
It's not based on like a a the validity
of the
It's not based on like a a the validity of the history. It is based on what they
associate their self-identity with as
far as their tradition
associate their self-identity with as far as their tradition and the emotional
responses that that correspond with
that.
He said that you
that. He said that you don't follow the
warning was you don't follow Jesus and
you can't follow Jesus. You some you
follow someone
you can't follow Jesus. You some you follow someone else's version of Jesus.
Correct. That's 100%. Because you think
about it
Correct. That's 100%. Because you think about it right. So if um we have this
huge na
about it right. So if um we have this huge na from Allah subhana wa ta'ala of
having the life of the prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam the prophet
Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam
being documented um not just documented
but then
being documented um not just documented but then we have a whole field of study
called
right the knowledge of those individuals
those men who now they actually narrated
the hadith.
those men who now they actually narrated the hadith. So now we know about their
like where they were born, who their
teachers were, what were their
strengths,
teachers were, what were their strengths, what were their weaknesses,
who were their students, you know, where
did they live even when they traveled,
when did they go for Hajj, uh who could
they have possibly encountered during
that time period. We have this very
intense understanding of not just the
history of Nabi, but now the chain of
narration
history of Nabi, but now the chain of narration that gets that history to us
today.
This is when we narrate statements
today. This is when we narrate statements from
Prophet Muhammad. This is our Islamic
tradition
and they don't have that.
Yeah. So
and they don't have that. Yeah. So now the question is is like so
how can you be so sure that you're
actually following
how can you be so sure that you're actually following Jesus? And that is a
scary question for them. It's a very
scary question for them. Now if for
those who are open to the truth
scary question for them. Now if for those who are open to the truth and
they're searching for the truth,
alhamdulillah, this is where the Quran
comes in and says, "Okay,
alhamdulillah, this is where the Quran comes in and says, "Okay, you love
Jesus. We get it." And alhamdulillah, we
do too.
We do too. Yeah.
Yeah. Absolutely. We love him arguably
more than you do because we have an
understanding
more than you do because we have an understanding of actually who he who he
was, right? We have an understanding of
his work
was, right? We have an understanding of his work and his mission, some of the
the challenges that he encountered, the
Kawari Yun, his
the challenges that he encountered, the Kawari Yun, his disciples that were with
him. So now you can actually have some
concrete
him. So now you can actually have some concrete shity as far as an
understanding of who Jesus actually was.
Now you can have all that doubt removed.
The only thing you have to do is attach
your
The only thing you have to do is attach your attach yourself with the Quran with
the the sunnah ofatam
because again it's the same me it's the
same mission it's the same message
that's the beauty
same mission it's the same message that's the beauty of it the of all the
prophets so in terms of theology
theosophy of all the
prophets so in terms of theology theosophy of all the prophets from Adam
from the beginning all the way to
Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam it
has
Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam it has never changed a lot of people don't
know this like so when you're talking
about now law
know this like so when you're talking about now law that's a different thing
the laws of Moses that's a different
thing the laws of uh uh you know
Muhammad
thing the laws of uh uh you know Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam and
Islam today that's a different thing
what we're talking about is the
explanation
what we're talking about is the explanation of truth and reality so
truth is truth all right it's concrete
the goalposts
truth is truth all right it's concrete the goalposts don't move so when we're
talking about Isaam he believed the
the goalposts don't move so when we're talking about Isaam he believed the same
thing as Abraham as Moses as Noah as
David as
thing as Abraham as Moses as Noah as David as Solomon as Adam as Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam so now we
David as Solomon as Adam as Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam so now we can
actually like help them to lock down uh
their understanding of who Jesus was
actually like help them to lock down uh their understanding of who Jesus was and
actually begin the process of of helping
them understand what
actually begin the process of of helping them understand what love itself
actually is.
He said that Jesus never wrote anything
down. That's
He said that Jesus never wrote anything down. That's fine. He said it only
started being written down by people who
never actually
started being written down by people who never actually met him. And then Mark
being the earliest of the gospels 40
years later
you start getting remnants pieces here
and there. And then he
you start getting remnants pieces here and there. And then he also talks about
how the gospel authors are just
completely anonymous. We don't know who
wrote these books. They were
conveniently given these titles. Did you
know all these things? Do you agree with
this from
know all these things? Do you agree with this from your studies? When at what
point because you used to be a
Christian, did you know this when in the
early
Christian, did you know this when in the early stages of while you were coming up
going to church? You're obviously going
to church. Uh
going to church? You're obviously going to church. Uh did you know these things?
And when did you know these things if
you didn't in the beginning? No, for me
my my personal
you didn't in the beginning? No, for me my my personal experience um
because a lot of people you know the the
big
because a lot of people you know the the big question right is uh how did you
become Muslim? It is probably the
question I get asked