well would all the violence and conflict
in the Middle East evaporate if Israel
simply cease to exist my next guest says
Israel is not only breaking Jewish law
with its military strikes against the
terrorist group Hezbollah but that the
state of Israel itself should not even
exist in the first place what you may
find more shocking is that the person
saying that is a rabbi he is yra from
Jews United against Zionism uh Rabbi yes
pretty strong words yes but uh this is
the view uh that was shared by all
religious leaders throughout uh I mean
the last 100 years when the Zionism was
the whole movement of Zionism was
created the concept the ideology of
transforming Judaism from spirituality a
religion into a materialism a
nationalistic goal to have a piece of
land all the rabinal authorities said
this is uh antithetical with what
Judaism is all about expressly forbidden
in the Torah because we are in exiled by
God have a state you shouldn't have a
country you shouldn't have a government
we shouldn't have a state we should be
living amongst all the nations as the
Jews were doing for 2,000 years as loyal
citizens uh people who are serving God
emulating God with compassion and the to
the T States clearly that if we will
attempt to uh breach these Oaths of God
of trying to leave Evar it will just
bring to death and D catastrophic
results for the truth we find that since
the Inception of Zionism the state of
Israel uh there's uh River an Endless
River of suffering for the Jews and
non-jews alike and contrary to what
people believe that there it's a
religious conflict we have been living
for hundreds of years amongst the
Muslims and Arab communities without any
un humanites groups to watch so life let
me ask you this Rabbi was life better
for the Jews prior to the creation of
the Jewish state of Israel 100% in
Palestine we have the testimony of the
Jewish community living there and other
lands that they were living in Harmony
and they pleaded with the United Nations
in the documents we have the chief Rabbi
of Jerusalem said we do not want a
Jewish State the Muslims Christians and
the Jewish inhabitants were ignored with
the creation of the state is POL
nevertheless you might not have had a
country per se but you were not a
stranger to being abused or or or
slaughtered uh over the millenniums
right in particularly as recently as 50
60 years ago there is an issue of being
killed because of anti semitism and then
there's another issue where you
antagonize and you create your
anti-Semitism through anti through
Zionism doing that in other words it's
not a freefor you'll knock out your
neighbor's windows and then yell
anti-Semitism now I know you are an
orthodox Jew what do traditional Jews
think of that position well this is and
was this was the mainstream view of
world's Jewish people worldwide whether
it was well I know it was it isn't now
so what do they tell you now well they
what they've done is they've let's talk
about the religious point of view
because we're talking about the Judaism
not people who have left the Falls of
Judaism the Jewish view is that uh the
mainstream view would be that true we
shouldn't be having a state but once
it's created the Zionist uh propaganda
that the Arabs want to throw every Jew
into the ocean and there's an ingrained
hate against the Jews which they've
convinced many Jews to believe this is
why they are fearful of returning the
land most well you can't blame them
right I mean you have the president of
Iran who says the Holocaust never
existed if he had his brothers he'd
destroy Israel and all the Jews that's
also patent we fall he has a Jewish
community in Iran and they haven't
murdered them when they had the
opportunity so you take him you don't
take him out his word that he would try
to kill J he he would he would want to
uh the the dismantling of the political
state of Israel in fact we were in we
went a whole group of rabbis this last
year to visit Iran and we were taken up
by the leaders we met with the vice
president he was in Venezuela at the
time we met with the religious leaders
all of them
stated that unequivocally that they
don't have a conflict with the religion
so as long as Israel exists Rabbi you
think just itching for trouble Jews are
suffering the Palestinians the Lebanese
are we pray for the speedy and peaceful
dismantlement of the state it's
interesting RAB you don't hear that view
often thank you for stopping by thank
you very much