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reflecting
upon thinking really about something
more serious some of you might have just
you know flipped the channels and you
were watching Justin beaver and he's
breaking down you know you're part of
the Bieber team and you just you know
getting fed up it's not bringing
satisfaction to the heart mind body and
soul so people are looking for purpose
what's the purpose of life and we're
going to be really tackling this topic
and helping you develop a better
understanding and then at the end you
can decide if you want to really
continue to be a a Berber Bieber fan or
whoever else is out there that's filling
your mind and the way that you're
intoxicating yourself with things that
really have no benefit or you can
benefit from the things that we're going
to say on this week's show and take it
implement it live with it and you can
have that peace that you've been looking
for we'll be right back with our special
guest talking about purpose purpose of
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the peace be with you how are you yes
sir how's it going Imam web how are you
thank you for being with us on Dean show
it's great to be here it's a pleasure
how have you been everything is good
everything is wonderful everything's
good in the hood as they say I think
so I don't mean to pick on nobody we
want the best for all of mankind and we
want the best for uh what's it name
Justin Bieber right uh the reason I
mention him is because people really a
lot of days you'll see like uh right now
we're showing a
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me of these women they're going
hysterical they're crying they're
pulling their hairs out and even why
what happened they someone died uh no no
one died but people just really they
they've taken him as some oh they're
pulling their H for Justin Bieber yeah
they really you know and he's he's on a
breakdown and stuff so you know um he's
breaking down he's breaking down we see
a picture of him here in the court right
now he's got uh arrested for DWI du yes
un we want we want and the show is about
helping people really live beyond just
you know satisfying the Flesh and the
desire so you know how would you if
tomorrow you you I don't know you're at
a restaurant maybe you had a meeting
with Justin beaver he came into your
community center how would you uh open
up a dialogue to really talk about
purpose purpose of life with this young
man well that's very interesting first
of all it's great to be on your show
thank you you're doing a wonderful job
and you know may Allah continue to bless
a mean thank you show and then you just
had a baby boy mallah so everybody out
there I think people don't realize we're
humans so may Allah bless your son I
mean thank you and and and make him
someone who lives a purpose me Driven
Life uh and the right purpose um you
know it's been a while man so it's good
that we're back together it's like the
Muslim kid in
play yeah so you know that's interesting
because my own daughter um you know one
day about four years ago I came home and
she had purple on purple hijab and
everything and I and this was in Egypt
and she said I'm a
believer I'm a Believer right so she was
a fan of Justin Bieber and I actually
said to her why do you like him what
about and she went to an Islamic school
and everything so um I actually sat down
and kind of listened to some of his
songs with her mhm and just ask her do
you think this is appropriate or not and
you know she said no right C there was
one song he had about pray it was pretty
nice about Dua but overall it was just
kind of you know bubble gum music they
say but I think I was very similar to
Justin Bieber in the sense of course I
wasn't famous but when I was young um I
made three records hip-hop albums listen
to the names of these groups you ready
yeah please tell cocaine crew yeah the
cocaine crew it's a really wonderful
name isn't it wow second was uh Mafia
style and the third group I djed and
produced with them was called
aksa and there's a picture of me on my
Facebook wall when I was young and out
there and and I was friends with a group
called color me bad if you remember
those guys yeah yeah there's a that's a
boy band right they're like a you know
kind of a Man Band Man Band they're a
little bit after the boy band off the
okay yeah somewhat of somewhat of a boy
band and um I was headed in that
trajectory um and really into music had
a great love for music and was St
starting to go out on the road with
people and you know I was DJing clubs
when I was young and I I would maybe ask
him what I asked myself um I saw a guy
get shot um when I was 17 he got his
chest blown out and that kind of hit me
like you know no matter how shiny this
world is no matter how beautiful this
world is it's the greatest lie ever told
and the LIE is that we believe that this
world is going to last forever
right that's the lie that I'm talking
about and then the Quran it
says you know what's with God lasts so I
I I really had kind of a breakdown um
even though I had a lot of external
pleasure as far as the typical young
lifestyle um smoking copious amounts of
weed clubbing girls I was I had a record
out I was a sophomore in high school wow
so arrogant very arrogant and and full
of myself and then seeing someone die
and then I had a Muslim friend named
Daryl who also is dead uh may Allah have
mercy on
him who really there were events Life as
a teacher and then there were friends
and they made me really think about how
these things are not going to last so I
think that might be my conversation with
JB you know we pray for him we should
pray for these people man the crator
guides them right yeah right not just
you know diss them and make fun of them
I mean it's hard and and and then try to
ask him to help me think about what life
means to him instead of just telling him
what life is yeah and then maybe
building kind of a conversation we say
in the Quran like a shared conversation
between the two of us that maybe will
direct us to understanding the real
meaning of life is to live beyond this
life why why do you why do you think
look a person will have money they'll
have Fame they'll have all the Delights
of this life but obviously you see like
when they um arrested him he was on on
um some um prescription pills like like
a Xanax or something like that I don't
know exactly what it's called but you
see a lot of the celebrities they're on
anti-depressants they're on some sort of
pill some volumes they're turned into
drugs I mean people think okay if I
achieve this that's it I'm happy but
we're seeing the opposite yeah I don't I
don't think it's just celebrities I have
a I have a television show um that I do
in Malaysia and I film sometimes you
know 39 episodes in 7 Days mhm 39
episodes in 7 days and
I was telling a friend of mine the
second season of that show called
Reflections it's hard man I mean it's a
it's a very physically draining type of
job so I can only imagine what real
celebrities go through in the sense of
that sense of the word and I said to my
friend you know if I didn't have Salah
and Iman I'd probably be smoking weed
dude just to deal with the the pressure
and the pain kind of that you put
yourself through and then you go outside
in Malaysia people take my picture they
stop me that happens to you here I'm
sure and it's not comparable to what
those people are going through but it's
it's stressful so I think when people
don't have Avenues right towards things
that are Beyond this world because at
the end of the day right we know that
all the money we have is going to go we
know that the shirt we have is going to
fade we know the nice car we have is
going to get scratched up so we're
actually banking on something that we
know is finite right it's not infinite
and that's where that sadness comes in
like I'm banking on things that aren't
going to stay with me forever yeah so I
think redirecting people to as the
Prophet said you know what laib said the
most intelligent thing anyone ever said
outside of the Quran of course he said
the most intelligent thing poets ever
said was that there's no life except the
life of the Hereafter that's what that
meant cuz obviously this life is going
to end sooner or later young people die
old people a short-term investment short
term yeah how about the purpose of
because uh okay someone says look I'm
sitting in my basement I'm not harming
nobody because you get all sorts of um
answers to what the purpose of life is
so the purpose he's like uh or whoever
it is they're sitting in the basement
playing Xbox they said I'm not harming
nobody I'm smoking my weed I even you
know out of respect for my parents I
open up the window so it you know
doesn't bother them and that's it I'm
living my purpose I'm happy what would
you say to this person is that really
what purpose what the purpose of life is
about people have a right to declare
their own happiness right but I think I
would respond to them and
say you being happy with those things
you're not really fulfilling your
purpose mhm it's like when you train
somebody and they want to stay at a
brown belt and you know that they can go
to be black belt or someone stays at a
white belt and you know that they can
move forward I think sometimes one of
the things that modern society has
reinforced is that human beings aren't
really that important right although we
have this human rights um kind of
movement you know which seems to care
about human beings but in reality people
care about like people talk about the
economy like it's a person the economy
is sick right iPads are beautiful but
those are adjectives that should never
be be used for things that aren't human
so so I would talk to him about you know
you've you've adopted a set of values
that hasn't allowed you to really
explore the potential that you have as a
human being don't use your place there
we're going to be right back we got to
go to break they signaling and we'll be
right back with more talking about
purpose purpose of life here on the dean
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go to a break but please continue on no
I think that's all that needs to be said
is that you know when people are you
know sitting around like Muslims man
it's Muslims sit around and waste time
the prophet said
that right there's two things that most
people lose out on one of them is time
and and the prophet uh said uh in a
beautiful Hadith that you know the feet
of the sons of Adam of people won't move
on the day of judgment until they're
asked about four things one of them is
our time MH and that's why you know the
the the depletion of Youth people don't
use their youth anymore man and and and
really people wasting time right they
ask uh you know people who commit crime
young people a lot of them said
boredom right so I think people have
forgotten modern postmodern Society has
taken meaning out of life man because
you know before the Industrial Age
people identified themselves basically
through God all over the world through
different Traditions but there was a
purpose to that transcended this world
when science became religion right now
science is telling people that you
really have no purpose you know you came
from an animal background and you're
going to die as an animal right that
creates a problematic reality because
number one people have no purpose and we
have no purpose we're just going to
waste our time and sit around and do do
very little with our time um and then
thirdly it opens up to really like a
form of heathenism and we see that now
in popular culture big time yeah yeah
and and and religion is saying if
science is the language of the elements
if grammar is the language of words then
Islam right or religion is the language
of the spirit of the Soul right so
without that Soul Man what do you have
you have a mannequin mhm and if you put
the nicest things on a mannequin what
does it matter you understand what I'm
saying yeah but if you have you know
there was a really really powerful
documentary on happiness and they went
to this guy in India who lives in a
shack and he has like a a plastic bottle
as his lamp like the sun goes through it
and it shines in the house and he was
the happiest man in his village and
they're like why are you happy he's like
I got this new plastic bottle for a lamp
he's like I see my kids every
day right I have three walls instead of
two in my house he was crying out of
Happiness right then you go to someone
there was a man they interviewed he used
to be a former Hollywood producer and
and he said the moment I moved into this
63 room Mansion I became depressed wow
cuz I had no one to share it
with so there's a need spiritually to be
connected to a higher power right in our
case it's Allah subhana wa tala we
believe is the only true God right and
our our language or our vehicle for
traveling to him is what the prophet
taught us peace be upon him and that
helps us fulfill the meaning of worship
right that we believe our purpose is
worship so that's my next question I was
going to ask ask you you um you it's two
forward question because some people
okay many of the not yet Muslims you
mentioned Prophet okay so please when
you explain to us what what are you
talking about the you me what prophet
are you talking about and second is what
is what is the purpose of life so we ask
obviously it's not to sit in a basement
playing Xbox maybe some people say it's
just to have a family raise some kids or
this is all you got so go kick it hang
out and just get all you can money
material things because your die TR
exactly so what's the purpose of life
and you know um and there's nothing
wrong like I'll play some Xbox you know
with my my son or my daughter
Battlefield he loves this game called
battlefield um but I think that what
happens is is now Xbox is playing us oh
yeah you know we're not playing it's
playing us right it controls us so who
holds the joystick is it the game or the
person and and that's the danger now
when I was saying earlier of we're using
you know terms to describe in am at
objects that should really only be used
for people
and and then look how people are
described so you could like you'll be in
a restaurant and people will be eating
like rare meat and hear about a massacre
of human beings and just keep
eating you know but then they'll find
out that you know Apple's going to
release ios8 and everybody stops oh
really I get this upgrade on my phone so
what matters to us is very frightening
I'm not against technology I just think
that I don't want to be I want to hold
the
joystick right I don't want to be the
one that's controlled by the joystick
that makes sense yes so when we're
talking about uh Islam I mean our core
tenants are belief in God angels
prophets books day of judgment and
everything that happens for ordainment
is by the will of God right we call
Allah subhana tala um we're talking
about the prophet and I think this is a
very important point to make we're
talking about Prophet Muhammad actually
we're talking about all prophets because
the prophet
Muhammad he said in that the prophets
are brothers and their religion is one
so when we're talking about Prophet
Muhammad we're talking about the truth
of every Prophet that came before him so
he embodies the true teachings of Jesus
they're two true teachings of Moses
they're true so actually the prophet
Muhammad and that's what makes him the
greatest Prophet is a vessel that
contains Muhammad right I'm saying this
metaphorically and then all of the
prophets right so when we believe in
Prophet Muhammad we don't pick and
choose so we say the prophet we're
talking about Prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam peace be upon
him who we believe teaches says how to
get in a car turn it on and drive right
how to take that course to live that
purpose um the purpose that he taught us
is to worship and we believe that if we
don't worship God we'll worship
something else and I've been there where
I believe I was worshiping something
else not necessarily another deity but
drugs clothes money Fame myself being
lazy um and and and and we we'll
continue maybe to talk about how he
expanded the concept of worship not just
to be in the mosque not just to be in
the church or the synagogue but that how
serving Society right is one of the
ultimate acts of worship before we go to
break the brother says look look I'm
going to get money or die trying like
you said what's your response well die
trying you know many people have done it
and and at the end of the day I mean if
that's what's going to make you happy
you're responsible for yourself but I
think that that attitude is is is very
carnivorous what's the difference
between that person and like the tiger
who jumps in the jungle and just wants
to eat everything thing and we see where
the attitude is getting us look at the
objectification of women on television
man just to get money what people will
do to themselves to get money right and
they know that that money you know now
the the bit coin issue on it's showing
us how really fragile money ish so what
are you chasing what's going to matter
and we can talk about a beautiful Hadith
of the Prophet about that maybe in the
future we're going to come right back
here to wrap it up on the dean show
don't go anywhere
it's like when did you think that you
had no
purpose are you
worthless the value comes from
purpose your purpose in life is to
worship the Creator not worship your
desires and self not worship social
pressure the celebrity culture but
worship the thing that's much higher and
Transcendent above and beyond by
worshiping God and seeking his pleasure
you get pleased so you have double
pleasure back here on the dean show and
we're talking about meaning a meaningful
a very important topic because like you
mentioned earlier when you're talking
about we talking about Justin beaver
death I mean that's a reality you know
and people die you saw your friend die
this kind of really woke you up so
before we went to break you mentioned a
Hadith a saying of the last and final
messenger Prophet Muhammad peace be upon
can you go ahead and you ask me what I
would say to someone who their attitude
was and and unfortunately we find this
in the Muslim Community too right look
how look how young Muslims are forced to
be doctors and Engineers MH and the
driving edifice behind that is not that
anyone cares what they're going to be
happy doing it's this is what's going to
get you
paid honestly and and I don't I'm I'm
sure if we ask most of the people in our
community who are doctors and Engineers
I'm sure that's a great thing to be a
doctor most of the scholars wanted to be
doctors CU they were doctors of the
hearts and they also want to be doctors
of the limbs yeah um
but at the same time like people who
don't want to do that are forced to do
it and the edifice pushing that is money
right the factors that are pushing money
so I would remind them of a beautiful
Hadith of our beloved Prophet Muhammad
and a Hadith is something he said or did
or taught us um is
that three things follow the dead person
to the Grave right his family right his
deeds and his money or her family her
deeds and her money he said two of them
leave and one of them stays the two that
leave are the money and the family but
as soon as the person is put in that
grave what stays are what kind of
imprint they left on this world exactly
yeah another thing I would tell them
there's a really beautiful story that
happened in the time of one of um the
kings of you know ancient days in the
Muslim World M um a scholar this King
had a massive Kingdom so a scholar ask
him how valuable is your kingdom to you
how valuable is this this Get Rich or
Die try and kind of yeah he said you
know it's it's the greatest Kingdom in
the world it has no value no one has
seen a kingdom like this as of yet so he
said if I if I had you in the desert and
you had you were dying of thirst what
would you give me for a glass of water
he's like I'd give you my kingdom he
said if I gave you that glass of water
and then you had to use the restroom and
I could block your urinary tract right
so you wouldn't be able to use the
restroom what would you give me to let
you used the restroom he said I'd give
you all my kingdom he said a kingdom
that you just said has no value is only
worth a glass of water and a trip to the
toilet amazing so that that really helps
us think about what we're doing there's
nothing wrong with being rich you know
I'd love to have money and wealth but
again am I holding the controller is the
controller holding me and that's the
danger of you know that problem because
the prophet Muhammad said that the best
person is the one who Allah guides and
they have means that suffice them mhm
right they have sufficent means and you
know eight of the 10 promised
Paradise were successful business people
who funds you know NOS who funds efforts
like this are are the wealthy right yeah
but there's always that danger of being
controlled by it yes and losing purpose
uh before we cut out we're almost out of
time tell us because we know in this
program is really short so we just want
to give people a nice taste but we know
that without a doubt Islam submission to
the will of the Creator not the creation
been sent throughout time through all
the messengers it's a way of life that
doesn't call you to anything that is
unnatural it's a natural way to believe
in the Creator to do good to live a
righteous wholesome Life Organic
everyone's going back to organic and
it's based on proof and evidence so for
the person that's tuning not yet Muslim
who's out there tuning in he's likes
what we have to say what guidance what
advice do you give him because now
there's all of these other religions all
of these other ways and now how can they
be sure that we're talking about that
Islam is surely the way from the Creator
is not just some madeup way of life from
Prophet Muhammad yeah most important and
I think that's a great question we
should welcome those questions right one
one of the beautiful things about our
religion is we welcome questions um so I
would say to that person number one
think about meaning right what's
meaningful to you having a relationship
directly with God not through a person
or through an authority I think that was
very powerful for me as a young person
that Islam you know it was like
immediately put me in touch with the
Creator without anything in without any
Partners right yeah then secondly is
sustainability is this religion
sustainable is it something that I can
do on the regular is it something is it
asking me when I became Muslim you know
I almost pledged a fraternity when I was
in college and instead I became Muslim
but I remember as I was about to pledge
that fraternity which was Alpha um and I
still have friends are alphas a lot of
Muslims are
alphas I remember they were telling me
like you're going to have to go through
some stuff that you're not going to like
in order to pledge right yeah so after I
became Muslim I was like when is the
weird thing gonna happen when is the
weird thing gonna happen that makes me
like an official Muslim what are they
gonna put me on the set or something and
it never happened so it was very
sustainable as an American you know I
became Muslim and I didn't have to
change too many things in my life um
pray five times a day I wanted to pray
more than that fast once a year I wanted
to do that you know get to know people
beyond their ethnicities and their
languages like I love that coming from
Oklahoma the Deep South right so I would
say that sustainability was
right you can see that Islam has been as
you said gluten-free right this is
manfree yeah and that's how you know
it's from God because it makes sense it
touches your nature and allows you still
to be who you are if you're an actor be
an actor if you're a rapper be a rapper
if you're you know Jiu-Jitsu guy be
jiujitsu guy but just tie the Earth to
the
heavens right now they're separate but
Islam helps us to tie those things
together and have purpose thank you very
much we out of time thank you for being
with us may the creat the heavens and
earth reward you thank you we started
with peace we end with peace we'll see
you next time peace be with you it's all
about peace yeah and thank you for
sitting through the dean show you got to
really just reflect think and Ponder
your life on this Earth wasn't just by
chance accident it was you're not just
an accident that happened the Creator
created you with a goal and a purpose
but do you want to know the purpose and
we really strongly recommend that you
start off by asking beseeching the
Creator the one who created you your
maker for guidance say Guide Me Guide Me
and if you're sincere and you really
want to know what the purpose of life
and you ask the one who created life he
will facilitate a away it's that easy
it's that simple so start asking
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