you studied uh medicine in Damascus with
Assad with Assad how they took out Assad
I don't know man this and look you're
already seeing Christians getting
freaking crucified we're going to be
screwed you're pushing this how many
Christians have seen this there there
you go that's what you get for for
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seconds of the video but I can already
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this video of them those aren't
Christians even so those are not so you
can confirm right now as someone who's
born in Damascus they they're
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you assalam alaykum welcome back to the
dean show thank you guys for tuning in
it's a very happy day but also very
confused day for many people uh many
many people out there are wondering
what's going to happen next in Syria so
my next guest is not only a Emergency
Physician a doctor he also 12 years ago
got into humanitarian work born in
Damascus so let's get to finding out the
reality horror stories on the ground so
we can have a better perspective on
what's really happening in Syria I want
to start off with this very sad story
American citizen look he went to Syria
also a doctor and this is just one ex
example of what has happened to people
even American citizens who go down who
want who've gone down there and just
went missing so let's get into the story
and we'll react to it and and unpackage
some more so you can get better
acquainted on what's happening what's
been happening in
Syria this is the the
this is
the
thean thean ma kamam was detained in
Syria's capital in 2017 now since then
his daughters aula and Mary um have been
working quietly with the state
department to find their father maaj
camel maaz a 61-year-old therapist and
grandfather was last seen in war torn
Syria while crossing a government
checkpoint where he was detained how are
youum do good so this is an old video an
old story but this is not something
that's uncommon this is something can
you I was just learning about this story
I mean this is American citizen who went
down you personally know him I know his
son you know his son can you fill us in
on um any latest developments now that
the U the um had a breakthrough now with
the removing of this uh pharaoh of our
time and now the famous uh prison that
that that thousands were held in it's
been people been freed from there yeah
yeah Subhan Allah there is a large net
that the um the regime was casting like
any glimpse of you might not be excited
about being in the side of the regime is
a crime if you are in humanitarian work
if you're helping people who have been
evicted from their homes that is a crime
um uh this brother here this doctor
actually I I don't know him personally
but I know his son and I I know a lot of
people who knew him personally that he
was doing some work as a therapist
actually helping people who've been
traumatized with the war so going to
Lebanon trying to help a lot of people
free of charge donating his time and
then he went to Syria and then he was
captured there because if you're trying
to help people who are refugees then you
are on the bad side he was kidnapped so
right so at a checkpoint he disappear
and this is kind of the system you
disappear nobody knows where you are
they won't even tell any body you won't
know at which location he is um
sometimes the person would die and
nobody would hear now I give like I I've
had a lot of stories while I was growing
up in Damascus and of things people like
one one example um I had um actually
classmate who he told me like a story of
his brother he his brother was a student
college student who had no problems
except for that he he was
uh like a good person who like he would
pray and whatever so that that was one
of the crimes like if you pray then you
probably is um that that you're doing
enough to get captured so he was taken
out one day um going to um his college
disappeared for two and a half years and
then one day the family get a call that
come over they tried to find him they
didn't they couldn't they called they
asked they paid money they couldn't find
where their son is and after two and a
half years they got a call that your son
is at this location you can come and
take him so they start decorating the
place they celebrating they went to take
him and there was they were given the
dead body so they weren't even told that
the person was dead and um so this is
like one of a lot of stories but some
people disappeared 20 years ago and
nobody knows if they're alive or or dead
or where they're at um they don't know
their like why they disappeared you know
some people disappear from 4 30 years
and they don't know what they did um but
it is a trying to terrorize people so
nobody will will object nobody will talk
nobody will say anything so you're a
board certified medical doctor board
certified Internal Medicine correct what
got you into 12 it's been 12 years now
you decided to do this humanitarian work
correct what led you down that path yeah
yeah actually when the revolution in
Syria started back in
2010 um you can see like all the images
of the people who are harmed in tortured
and and people displaced and that's
where we felt the need especially with
people becoming refugees living in areas
with with like where even the basics of
Life do not exist and the Heartbreakers
for my wife and I was the orphans the
little kids who are left without a
parent and they are
left with no help with no assistance not
the extended family they are in remote
places um and there is nobody to take
care of them and felt like we need to do
something and step in and help these
people how much was your religion a
motivating factor behind this yeah I
would say I mean the religion is
definitely a key now we are commanded as
Muslims that we have to help people in
need it is it is a duty it is a
commitment it's not like something you
do when you feel like it it is something
that you have to do it's part of being a
Muslim that you have to help everybody
in in need of help you have to protect
people who need to be protected ected
you have to take care of kids who who
don't have anybody to take care of them
providing Medical Care um at the highest
standard you can possibly deliver is
part of our Dean if you're not
performing to the best you possibly can
then you're not a good Muslim tell us
growing up now you were born in Damascus
so we have someone from Assyria born in
Assyria and Damascus is the that's
that's the capital so you're born in the
capital of Syria tell us a little bit
about life what was life like growing up
in Syria yeah now now life the people
are very good and I would say like it is
mixture it is mixture like we have the
Muslims we had some Christian Friends
Christian neighbors
um we we had no like you know that they
are Christian you respect what they
believe in they respect what you believe
in we visit them they visit us we give
each other gifts during their holiday
our holiday we never felt like you know
they hate us or we hit them you know
this this was never the situation
and in in Syria like I mean this has
been applied for centuries and I would
say like Muslims have been in Syria for
long time and if Christians were not
feeling safe there they would have left
but the fact that you have some Churches
there that are hundreds of years you
know in age and whatever since the
time for over a thousand years and these
people did not leave if they if they
felt threatened in their religion or or
for their safety or something they would
have left but um but that that is not
the situation so a lot of Testaments
about what's in the real life but I
would say it all comes from the teaching
of our Dean I mean our our religion
prohibit us from hurting others
regardless of what the religion is there
is a saying for Prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam that
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says whoever and whoever harm a person
of the booki is a person of the book
which is Christian or je who lives among
among Muslim people M so those are like
people who have Covenant with Muslims by
virtue of them existing Among Us whoever
hurt AI or you know a person of the book
who's living among Muslims Prophet
Muhammad sallahu alaihi wasallam
says I am his enemy on the day of
judgment so on the day of judgment the
one who be against you is the prophet of
Allah Muhammad sah alaihi wasallam there
is no chance you can win if Prophet
Muhammad is against you so it is
prohibiting people at the very highest
level not to hurt non-muslims who are
living among you where do you think
people got this fear this trepidation
now that they're thinking right now you
have a people out there Christians and
on the Christian Broadcast Network and
and other mainstream Christians here in
America they're repeating much of this
that be careful Christians are about to
be slaughtered in Syria where do you
think they're getting this from yeah I
think a lot of people are misinformed
and I think some people are intention
spelling propaganda to create fear among
among people from each other and create
divisions um for different levels of
interest but you know as I said
like um if a Muslim does something
harmful and Justified harmful to to
other people to Christians or Jews or
living among us then he is going against
his de so he's not being a good Muslim
and now are there bad people existing
among Muslims or Christians are there
bad apples somewhere I think there are
some bad apples but they are against the
mainstream and if you allow freedom to
Prevail then Freedom would prevent those
bad apples from having their way uh now
if we go back I mean this is um you can
go there's layers and layers to this I
know but if we if we go back to let's
say
1916 when you had the
the Sykes peacock agreement is this
where now it started where you had the
British and the FR French coming in to
go of Just Cause haak and and and divide
the country right divide and conquer so
Britain France Italy they came and like
okay let's they drew a line this country
belongs to you and we'll call it this
this country belongs to me and call it
this really divided countries some some
families were split against at the
border between like Lebanon and Syria um
and and it was in interest it is
Colonials a
colonial project at at its
base uh if you go back we know that
Jerusalem there would be no Jews in
Jerusalem if the Muslims didn't go ahead
and open the doors like you know when
the Christians had driven out the um the
Jews when the second caleff of Islam
Omar on he came and he said where the
Jews you have like University American
professors who are narrating the story
we know this history and then Omar came
and he said he brought he what was it
like 70 80 Jewish families brought them
back and we know the diversity there
that there was relative peace that Jews
and Christian Muslims were Liv in peace
the the key to the holy sepra the most
um holiest place for the Christian was
in the hands of the Muslims is there a
similar contrast now to the story of how
Jews and Christians were treated in a
majority Muslim country like Damascus be
before now the 196 before the colonizers
came in how what was the situation of
Christians there and Jews in Damascus in
Syria yeah yeah actually you know as I
said like really it stems from the
teaching of our religion um you know for
and I encourage everyone who from
Christian background or so to actually
don't just believe the media open the
Quran and read the chapter of Mary um
Quran has a chapter that speaks
specifically and named after Mary the
mother of Jesus peace be upon him as a
matter of fact like we Muslims we're we
we feel like it's inappropriate it's not
acceptable for us to just say Jesus
without saying peace be upon him out of
respect and and regard we believe in his
Miraculous Creation like he was born
with no father we believe in the
Miracles he did we believe in um
actually we believe in some Miracles
that are me in the Bible and two
Miracles that are not even mentioned in
the bible so say like if Muhammad peace
be upon him was coming up with this why
would he um put on his shoulder to
testify to the truth of the message of
Jesus peace be upon him and his miracles
and the one thing that a lot of people
don't U also don't know that we believe
in the um final coming of Jesus be be
upon him that he will come down and we
know we have scripture telling us that
he will come down in a place in Damascus
called the white minate and we're
commanded when Jesus be SP upon him to
follow him and support him this is deep
now we have it in our in Islam
describing the end of times and in some
of those report you have Jesus peace be
upon him uh coming back uh in Damascus
correct this is very Damascus actually
has has something to do with Jesus peace
be upon him and and the connection is
very strong
yeah uh what else can you can you tell
us now so after 1916 divide and conquer
and now is this where this Assad family
took over after that how long was their
reign yeah actually now they've been in
power for about 54 years uh the father H
Assad was first and then he he prepared
his son to take over his son is actually
was studying medicine in was two years
ahead of me in medical school so I know
him from Medical School actually and he
used to be much nicer person back in the
days until he you met him yeah you met a
met I met so you actually met a I met
him he wasn't friend of mine like a
personal friend but we met multiple
times like you met multiple times wow I
didn't even know this you this is just
Revelation right now you're wow and
there there are some of my friends
actually who live here they were his
classmate in the same group like
studying together where was this this
was in yeah and I can name few few guys
who were in the same group where was in
damasc school you studied medicine in
Damascus with Assad with Assad wow yeah
so tell us more please keep going yeah
so I mean back in the days I mean he was
he was a student now there there always
been something people in power they will
come to the medical school or university
with bodyguards in protection and you
can talk to them I mean he he was not as
bad as some of the other people that
were like their parents in the security
services whatever but um um this is
before he ended up uh becom taking over
taking power right okay yeah and he he
went to England where he actually
studied Opthalmology so became an
opthalmologist and came back and he was
his older brother basil was the one who
was being prepped to become the next
president but uh he died in a car
accident and then the next one in turn
was Bashar who who was then pushed to
the plate and um and made the next
president people have compared
rightfully so his father and then him
because when you and we encourage
non-muslims not yet Muslims to open up
the Quran and see the story of pharaoh
right right to see he was uh someone who
was um doing all sorts of evil
corruption on corruption and then to be
compared to that I mean it just
um it's it's the worst comparison you
could make so his father can you give us
an idea what was it like hearing from
your father and then your grandfather
living under this oppressive ruler yeah
yeah actually the the the whole system
was built on fear trying to make people
fearful of talking behaving doing
anything even contempt if you if you're
not in favor if you don't show like if
if the name of the president is
mentioned and you don't express your joy
then you are considered to be um a bad
person and and that might be a grounds
for you to be arrested uh if you say
something if you criticize anything that
pertain to them that that is a good
ground for the person to disappear and
there are like no protection for rights
that people can can go and ask for
rights and this actually for Muslims
Christians and everyone and actually one
of you know one of the things that you
know will U dispute this meth about
Christians being scared and slaughtered
I mean you can see the celebrations of
our Christian Brothers in Lebanon in
Beirut who were not even immediately
under the rule of of Assad but they a
lot of Christians were persecuted and
pressured in to the point where they say
like we welcome this I mean if this
becomes whatever you're trying to scare
us with this kind of new rule um this is
something liberating us and they
celebrating and they did fireworks in
Beirut and other things and now be happy
to share videos showing what they are
saying and how they are ecstatic about
the change of the so you have Christians
in Lebanon now this is also much
propaganda that they're they're saying
how Christians are are oppressed by
Muslims in Lebanon but we're hearing now
opposite you know from someone it's a
neighbor Syria to Lebanon that
Christians are actually say it again
they what they they're celebrating the
end of the Assad rule I mean the the
Assad rule had had a lot of influence in
Lebanon um there were bombardments there
were control of the government and
whatever and actually as we see the
people who are being relieved from jail
being freed a lot of them are Lebanese
some of them been there for 20 30 years
Lebanese also that Slaughter House of a
prison right Lebanese there were some
people who disappeared in Lebanon and
they don't know where they went now they
showed up actually in a Syrian prison
human slaughter house that's what they
call itely absolutely unbelievable so
all right so now this is his father how
did his father become the ruler now who
put him in place so the father actually
became a ruler he was in the military
and he did the coup and took over the to
took over the government and then all
the opposition um like were captured put
in jail or killed or something like that
and then they claim that he's there to
liberate and free the country and and it
kind of went downhill from there and
Bashar kind of when he first started it
was supposed to be like a relief a
better um situation from his father then
it diverted to where like it is the very
same scenario same movie and more
oppression and oppression feeds
oppression people show contempt people
are not happy um especially when the
revolution like the peaceful Uprising
started where people just demonstrating
in the streets that you know we want
democracy we want freedom and the answer
was with bullets and tanks
and explosives now some people just to
clear any any uh confusion they were a
part of this
alawite uh religion which has this is
not they're not Muslim is this correct
yeah well I mean I'm not a scholar
Islamic scholar but I mean there are
classifications some some people will
consider them like a a sect that it is
like diverted from Islam in a lot of
things and some some consider them like
they they diverted enough that they're
no longer Muslims but but in essence
like really there was no issue between
the sunnis or alawites I mean we have we
had friends studying with us in school
the issue is came when the government
when the rule of Assad wanted to use
them as tools to make a strong
foundation for them so they put them in
in powerful places and use them to
terrorize people and then needlessly
obviously like oh that's interesting
point so even before they got in at
least okay um they deviated from Islam
but there was still you guys were able
to live together and function properly
but then he got and then used this to
divide and put them in position used
them to oppress the people and that's
where like so if and and and use the
Discrimination so there is a class of
Alo white who are connected to the
president and the class of everybody
else and if you're Alo then you can take
the rights of anybody else you
can commit crimes and get away with it
you can hurt people and get away with it
um you can be uh promoted to the highest
level um without being qualified and
somebody else who's qualified to be
kicked out because he's not El white so
that's that's kind of what created more
of the Divide is how the government
treated the people there's a a video
going viral it's out there and it's
showing what appears to be syrians
syrians and then are stepping on the
necks of what they're saying are
Christians how can people how I analyze
this is like how do you know those are
those are Muslims you have alawites that
could be alawite step how do you know
even those are Christians like how do
you because and and video I don't know
if you've seen that video uh where maybe
we can find it we can I can show it to
you um let me show yeah so you can get
it Muslims stepping on Christians I have
not seen a video like that so so it's
and I've seen thousands of videos and
it's not Islamic actually not Islamic
Behavior as a matter of fact even now
we're prevented in terms of like if you
capture a criminal we still like you
know those the criminals who've been
torturing people in s NAA and like you
know if somebody was torturing your
father or tortured your son to death
what are you going to do with them but
we have to be according to our Islamic
teachings you catch them you bring them
to justice but we're still not allowed
to torture them even though they were
torturing us so even in spite of
everything you have to give them your
right you cannot take their rights and
if somebody didn't if somebody didn't
commit a crime you know we have in Islam
this so if if a person was killing
Muslims and then you catch his brother
or torturing them and you catch his
brother you cannot punish the brother
for the sin of his brother everyone is
responsible for his own acts here I'll
get you reaction to this this shows that
video that I'm talking about how they
took out Assad I don't know man this and
look you're already seeing Christians
getting freaking crucified we're going
to be screwed the Christians there are
going to get effed over okay these are
Christians by the way over there Rob if
you this clip so he's saying I just saw
them executing Christians all right so
don't forget that point there there you
go that's what you get for for loving
Jesus
Christ and they love this regime right
United States is like yeah he's better
than
Assad yeah guess what's going to happen
to these guys after that video so what
were they saying what do you think this
is what uh is going rout they're sharing
this uh in in their WhatsApp groups and
they're saying look like what he's
saying repeating Christians about to get
slaughtered here come the Muslims and
the fierce to develop what do you think
about this video well I mean I was I
watch only few seconds of the video but
I can already dispute half of the
information half of it right away yeah
the the one I mean like in Arabic if you
can say like he was telling
them meaning speak with your with your
with this is this is something that's
talked to the Alat not to Christians
Christian don't speak with the AL ala
speak using the letter so a lot of the
things so this is their accent so when
it's telling them then he is dealing
with Al he's not those aren't Christians
even so those are notr you can confirm
right now someone who's born in Damascus
lived in Syria you actually went to
school with Assad yeah uh you're telling
us now that this is not these are not
Christians these are not Christians
these are Elites yeah because I mean the
way that he's talking to them he said is
telling me so he these are and I tell
you like what's happening now and like
they are captured in the people who who
were torturing people they I mean these
people were torturing you know Muslims
Christians and even aloise but these
were in power and that's why they they
they caught them and they kind of taken
them for punishment whatever no so these
are the people behind the torture that
was done uh absolutely those those are
not innocent Christians those are not
Christians are not Christian in the
first place but these are not even
innocent Eloise come on Vinnie come on
BBD I mean this is uh this is like you
guys don't want to be suckers now you
need to verify you need to confirm he's
saying some really outlandish things and
now we have a Syrian here a Syrian here
from Damascus who just by you listening
you can go ahead and detect 100% this
these are not Christians absolutely
absolutely it's so evident I mean
actually it's it's not doesn't need
investigations yeah and we we it doesn't
even need an investigation it's that
self-evident this is yeah and actually I
mean I can tell you the culture I mean
being somebody who lived in Syria for
for 25 years the culture there does not
accept a person coming and torturing or
humiliating a Christian or a non-muslim
whatever because because he's a
Christian or he's non-muslim um and and
even the alawi now the Ala now you know
I say like they were used as a tool for
oppressing the rest of the country and
they are in in their regions now they're
not being attacked they not being harmed
the people particularly going after only
the alais or the non Alois who are
sunnis who were the tools for torture so
a lot of actually the people who the
government or regime used for torture
were even Muslim sunnis who were
benefiting from the rule and the people
are going after this as well so it
doesn't matter whether you're Christian
you're ala you're sin um you're safe
you're protected you're respected your
rights are protected the only thing is
if you were a criminal if somebody was a
serial killer if you were in a torture
Camp if you if you were in those I don't
know if people watch some of the videos
but one of the videos a woman was
talking about the rape projects in the
in the prison where like there is a room
like this size with like more than 30
women and every day like they're stacked
on top of each other they said like they
can't even lay on the ground at the same
time so some people will be standing
some people will be laying because so
packed and then people from the regime
they will come in the room they will
choose every day they will choose which
woman they they would like to rape and
they Place her in front of all the women
they'll start one person after another
trying to rape her and until she's like
in in a bad situation and I mean there
are stories on stories and videos on
videos but now this person here now
after he after the regime collapse and
this person is free what do you like to
do with them so that's this these people
the people are angry about these people
if somebody has been raping women like
this what do you think his punishment
should be and and that's that's what the
movie is talking about the video that we
watch arresting the people who are
committing the torture and the crimes
and the and the massacres there are a
lot of kids who were born in
prisons and grew up in prison now there
is there is one story I don't know it's
like it really short but the person who
who went into a prison um and like
a like a to to talk to the people and he
he found like a 5-year-old person there
so he felt really bad and he sat with
him starting to talk to him so he said
look I'm going to tell you a story there
was once a bird and the child look at
him and tell him what is the bird you
know the child was born in prison never
seen a bird and then the guy asked him
well the bird that you know that little
creature that flies and stand on a tree
and he said what is the tree so the
little the little child 5-year-old has
not seen a bird has not seen a tree has
not seen a sky he doesn't know what the
sun looked like and and those are kids
so can you imagine this video that's
been doing its round this is a huge I
met Vinnie actually down Fort Lauderdale
see like a nice guy and Patrick but you
got to be more accountable I mean for
and and verify things because now you
have a
responsibility uh you're pushing this
how many Christians have seen this and
right away not only is the distaste
towards Muslims but hate to think like
okay Muslims want to kill all that just
false uh propaganda lies absolutely and
when you put it in context when you just
evaluate uh from what they're saying the
dialect and what not you're like this
doesn't need to be investigated you have
just um debunked this video of them now
these being Christian these are not
Christians they are not Christians so
this is very
irresponsible uh and you come out you
look like a sucker now you've been
actually um
uh you you You' looked like a fool uh
promoting this stuff I mean this is like
my plea with everybody in the media
please verify the information please
talk to people who speak Arabic so they
can translate to you don't just take it
and say like these people are doing this
I mean please just get verifiable
information because you're really
hurting many people by doing that uh now
if Vinnie or one of these hoes they
might like to come down and see for
themselves I would love to can you
facilitate it actually like my wife is
in Syria now and I will make arrangement
for them to pick you up and show you
anywhere look look at that I mean look
at that instead of us now uh cursing you
out uh you know talking trash you're
actually look at the Muslims now we're
saying come down for a meal to Syria you
could help you guys Patrick has my
number we pick you up from Beirut
actually we don't the airport in
Damascus not working but we'll pick you
up from Beirut on our cost your stay and
we will show you around we'll go we'll
take you to the Christian places and let
you talk to them and here for yourself
what wow look at that Patrick M David
Vinnie uh the co-host the PVD gets an
invite here from my guest on The Dean
show you guys know how to get a hold of
me everything's paid for and you get to
see imagine that imagine going down to
see for yourself the Christian quarters
you'll be hosted here and well taken
care of is that right absolutely let's
make it happen Let's uh let's do it
let's see if you guys will take us up on
the invitation um I want to go ahead and
um close off with people seeing
this um I'm just uh just blown away when
you look at the videos and you
see um all the innocent human beings
that lies have been taken away and you
actually you you and this is incredible
I didn't know that you got to spend time
you a classmate of this Devil Himself
right uh there in Damascus um before
what else do you remember of what else
do you remember those years you spent um
medical school with Assad yeah I mean
it's amazing how human being can change
you know when everybody start as a child
like they're clean and they don't and
and this is a concept of Islam like all
kids are innocent no matter what they
come from original goodness born in
original goodness not original it's a
newborn child it's a young child they
are innocent no matter what they are I
mean they're Muslim they're Christian
they're atheist whatever their parents
are in our mind these are these are
innocent and if they die we believe they
will go to heaven because they're not at
the age where they are responsible so
sins are forgiven certain things are
wiped until you become an adult and an
old enough person to make those judgment
and so islamically we cannot go and you
know like they kill our kids we cannot
go and kill their kids you know you know
some of the Commendation like um abak
sik when he gave a command to the Army
that's going to fight and maybe I'll
mention this easily because he said when
he's commanding to the Army again like
they're going to fight to defend their
people he said like
don't
kill don't don't kill an old man or a
woman or a child and you will find
people worshiping in their worship
places leave them with their worship
don't har them don't bother them let
them and those are like they could be
Christian they could be Jews they could
be Buddhist you leave them with their
worship you don't bother them and then
he
said don't cut a tree
and don't kill an animal this is Prophet
Muhammad peace and blessing be so this
is the teaching
ofak is the first Khalifa yes so he told
them based on the guidance of prophet
Muhammad based on the teachings of
prophet Muhammad yes correct so you
don't you don't cut a tree now like you
know what what's happening in in places
where like they burn the whole lands to
to pressure the people they destroy the
bombard the whole city was like you
cannot cut a tree you cannot poison
water you cannot you cannot kill an
animal unless you know for a benefit but
you don't kill it to harm people so even
if it is your enemy and now I give you
one last thing and he
said don't attack them during the night
because we don't want to scare the women
and kids so you're you're fighting a
battle for God's sake but you still you
don't want to terrorize women and kids I
mean this is Islam this is the teaching
even when you're fighting you still have
to be kindful and you have to be
respectful about this before the Geneva
conventions way before actually many
argue that you got the Geneva
conventions from these teachings yeah
yeah yeah and it is it is actually no
because we Muslims believe that it is
Allah is the one who's watching it's not
your commander so if you can get away
with it and your commander didn't find
out or the government didn't find out
and you got away with it that's not
smart because you're not getting away
with it in front of Allah so we we are
commanded to follow and the one who's
watching is Allah subhana T there's a
lot of Mystery now and fear of this new
the freedom fighter who's in charge
there now what's his name and can you
tell us a little B about um about him
and what uh people are expecting and
what what are the kind of the unknowns
yeah so actually julani or his actual
name is Ahmed sh and now he gave his his
actual name when he started he did start
with Isis but he was he was a young uh
person who who who saw that they they
were there to do good things and and
protect defend Muslims uh but when he
joined them he found out that they were
not actually applying Islam because
Islam is is against terrorizing people
uh we you cannot kill a person for just
because you want to or because he's
different from you you cannot harm a
Christian person or even an atheist uh
you cannot hurt a child it doesn't
matter like what what the situation is
or what the motives are don't justify um
hurting other people so when he found
out like like what track Isis is taking
he diverted from them and his group HTS
was among the groups who were fighting
Isis and helped expel them out of Syria
uh so if his ideology was the Isis
ideology he would not have fought Isis
and you can understand like these people
are brutal and they can be murderous so
he risked his life to get rid of Isis
and that strong conviction that he is
not adopting the Isis mental
you won't fight them if you if you feel
that you're you said something it was a
little test run he was ruling over one
city for a few years there's Christians
there and everything and how did that go
yeah and actually the city of idlib and
and it it was about 2 million people but
with the Revolution and with uh the
regime trying to oppress the people a
lot of evacuations happened and became a
city of 6 million 6 million with a lot
of like from every city of Syria almost
from D to Damascus to hams they they
were deported and they went to idlip to
where they were concentrated and there
were a lot of Christians in that City
there is a significant minority there of
Christian and he had the control over
City for over five years and during
those five years he had a chance to hurt
Christians if he wanted to actually
there was nobody to stop him there had
you know he was governing the area and
those Christian there were protected and
their churches are protected and they
were not harmed and when the rebels
decided to actually move into alipo and
they did something that we command and
we say like this is our de this is what
we are commanded to do he sent letters
to them assuring them that they will be
safe in their churches they'll be safe
in their places uh and that the forces
of the Revolution will be personally
protecting them and guarding them and if
they if they are attacked by any
personality to contact them so we can
provide the safety but they had people
protecting the churches and like they
entered alipo maybe Thursday and um you
know or like Friday so it was like uh
you know very close to the time um you
know where the Christians our Christian
Brothers will have a mass and they had
people there actually at the churches to
guard them because of the war to make
sure nobody will come and attack them
claiming okay we are from Revolution or
from the regime or something like that
and they were passing flowers and I wish
maybe I can share a video okay um and
actually th what the Christian are
saying about how they're being treated
and how they had apprehension because of
what they hearing but now like they feel
really safe the Christians are saying
the Christians in El saying they're
feeling they feel safe and for those
years that he was governing they were
safe absolutely so now how can people uh
go ahead and and uh help you've
dedicated your life now 12 years
humanitarian work tell us about um the
work you're doing and how people can
support I'll tell you briefly about our
organization it's called best it's the
Arabic word it's a smile of Hope because
what we felt like these people who are
oppressed who are
you know um turn into refugees losing
everything the one thing that they need
most I mean they need food they need a
place to live they need everything but
the one thing they need most is hope so
we call it smile of Hope because this is
what we're trying to plan this is what
we trying to give especially those
children who lost their parents we had
children actually who lost both parents
and have nobody to take care of them you
know we have some so sponsoring orphans
is a big thing on our project educating
the kids I mean you can imagine those
kids if they don't get any education
what what's going to come out of them I
mean so so really trying to educate the
kids we have a project a medical project
people who lost their limbs I mean
amputations whether from the war or from
you know during the earthquake some
people lost both lower extremities and
these people are totally disabled and
with no way to get any help but you get
them extremities you get them wheelchair
and their life is different we we have a
project for women who've been oppressed
in jail or um or raped to rehabilitate
them and help them find jobs and work
we're trying to bring people not only
just help them but give them the dignity
that they deserve thank you thank you
very much may God Almighty Allah reward
you thank you um and let's see if uh our
friends at the pbd the Patrick B David
and them after much of the lies and
slander um against Muslims and Islam not
just this point but other programs that
we've um responded to and now they're
getting an invitation to the capital in
Syria Damascus everything will be taken
care of they'll be picked up from the
airport Dro back off and they'll be
taken to the Christian cour they can see
for themselves absolutely it's open
invitation anyone in the media who would
like to verify the information please
contact me through brother Eddie and we
are happy to make all the arrangement
and and bring you to the places that you
would like to see and make you see for
yourself this was not planned you just
surprised me with this but I think
that's a wonderful plan thank you very
much much for having me appreciate
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