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alhamdulillah alayum which means peace
be unto you thank you for tuning in to
another episode of the dean show tonight
we have a very special guest to cover a
very important topic we're going to help
you for those of you that are confused
you're just at the border possibly
hopefully God willing about to accept
the there's only one God you're ready to
worship him alone without any Partners
you're ready to do what God wants you to
do but you know what you're confused
about some things youve seen some things
blowing up out there You' seen Islam
being associated with terrorism so you
know what my next guest that I'm going
to bring out he's going to help clear up
some of these misconceptions I'm very
excited he almost didn't make it today
but he's here tonight get ready for our
special guest sh w b here on the dean
show you don't go nowhere we'll be right
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back there's only one God and muhamad is
his messenger
Allah
Allah there's only one God Jesus was his
messenger
Allah
I don't know why I did that maybe maybe
it's just to break the
ice sh I'm very excited me too Eddie um
just you know uh we almost didn't have
this uh meeting but you uh committed and
you made it even though you were
teaching all day yeah I've been teaching
actually the last two days from 10 to 8
yeah but um and also traveling all this
traveling and and teaching and helping
educate the the people and you made it
I'm very excited uh I'm glad to be here
and and my family by the way watch your
show all the time they talk about it so
there my daughter are excited about this
episode in particular I guess let her
know I'm excited to have you here we
just for the most of the uh Muslims know
about you but we tried to cater to a lot
of the non-muslims because we want them
to know that Islam is for everybody
Islam is for the whole of mankind and we
want them to know a little bit about you
uh from what I know tell us you fill in
the blanks you have a masters in Islamic
theology yes I did I I actually finished
my bachelor degree in Islamic Studies uh
in Saudi Arabia then I finished my
masters also over there and also very to
one and a half years ago I finished my
PhD as well and all of my studies were
in theology Islamic theology also a PhD
alhamdulillah I got it you got it yeah
congratulations thank you so I
mashallah yeah so uh you're also an Imam
that's like a spiritual leader at the uh
Houston uh or clear Islamic Center yeah
click clear Islamic Center okay and it's
uh in Houston Texas that's where I I
live yeah so we're not talking to some
car mechanic about Islam we're talking
about somebody who knows Islam you know
the Quran you know the language the
original language that it was revealed
in the Arabic so you're someone who's
qualified to help clear up some of these
miscon yes all right but you know before
we start you know I was fortunate
alhamdulillah I I went to visit are you
actually from uh from Riad or from where
were you born I was born in Cairo but I
was I I res in Saudi Arabia yeah so when
I went out there I saw the you know some
of the customs and I got to uh hang out
with uh shik usest and people were
really excited about you know line up
they wanted to meet him and everywhere
we went you know they have all these uh
what do you call them they got the
chairs lined up and you can put like 50
people in a room what are those called
and they bring out these little cup like
this yeah and they have the ti so I want
to do a little something like all right
oh that sounds good everybody was how
you translate that please for our uh
what's
up and they had the dates everywhere we
went I could we had the special they had
the special coffee so yeah thank you
you're welcome you just be careful I
know one brother who was in Saudi Arabia
and he kept telling his wife oh I had a
lot of dates in Saudi Arabia she said
what said I mean dates to eat so all
right so let's get down to business now
tell
us terrorism Islam it's all over the
media CNN NBC Fox
News they're portraying one picture you
also got some Muslims who might not be
doing something that's correct talk to
us tell us about this
okay first of all I just want to say
thank you for having me in your show and
U I'm so happy to see these shows
dedicated to educate non Muslims about
Islam as you said this religion is meant
for everybody there's every everybody
should benefit from the teaching of our
Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wasallam as Allah himself
said oh Muhammad we have sent you as a
Mercy to Mankind not to certain race not
to certain group not for certain time
it's for mankind all the time people
should benefit from his teaching and one
of the things that the prophet Muhammad
sallam emphasized on it so much and he
gave even a special segment of his last
ceremony that he addressed the Muslims
in general when he performed Hajj just
right before his death he talked to
Muslim and he warned them from extremism
he
said be aware of extremism because that
concept of being extreme OV excited it
was exist in all nations before Islam as
a prophet as a messenger who' been told
by God about previous Nations what kind
of problems that they had he was also
inform about this as one of the problem
that might this um face in future so he
warned his companions and his followers
from thus it's it is something the prop
emphasized on it in that speech so much
he
said uh and also in several occasions he
talked about it to warn up from being
extreme in our views extreme in the way
we U understand or practice the religion
or practice the
religion so unfortunately today there is
a picture been drawing in the media
about Islam and Muslims um I think there
is exaggeration as somebody said it or
put it he said I believe not all Muslims
are terrorists but all terrorists are
Muslims I think that's exaggerated
that's not true there's a lot of extreme
group out there who are not Muslims yes
I agree there is is um increasing the
trend of um groups and certain
individuals who happen to be Muslims
they carrying views uh which is
considered extreme violence that they
carry out to the society but I think
this need to be studied to be analyzed I
don't think the religion is that
necessarily the religion itself is what
led to it Islam is one of the religion
that the issue of spreading corruption
in Earth which it means destructions
killing innocent people or destroying
societies uh being unsil this is
something totally against the teaching
of Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam
as a matter of fact the prophet sallam
came to a society they used to fight
over silly things over a camel 40 years
they fighting each other over a camel uh
people will easily walk out and kill
somebody because they don't like him or
because a Revenge because that person
talked bad to My Tribe or about my tribe
the prophet forbid such things and build
a civil society to the extent one time a
man came to the prophet and said if I
see my woman fornicating with a man and
I kill him would you kill me he said yes
you will be killed because he cannot
take law by your own hand that Prophet
who came to establish a society which is
in in Arabia in that time they don't
know what law means and they basically
fight of everything as I just said to
build a civil society they respect a law
and there's a law and order ruling them
and to listen to a ruler this is what
something new for them the prophet in
Medina build a society where basically
they have law can basically manage them
uh Governor them and there is a governor
that they listen and they obey uh the
prophet s so many times people um come
with extreme ideas or views and theam
will warn against that the prophet said
that I will always choose what is easy
what is easy in people the prophet
respect the soul of people for any
reason he can sallallah alhi wasallam
protect the life of any human he will do
it sallallahu alaih wasallam it is the
prophet who said that there is a woman
enter Hellfire because she killed a cat
so would you imagine the same person
will in carriage and basically from his
teaching you will imagine that it is
allowed for you to go and kill innocent
people innocent humans once the prophet
s wasam was sleeping and one of the his
enemies sneak inside the muslim's camp
and managed to get a a sword and
basically he woke up the prophet s
wasallam by putting the edge of the
sword to the prophet throat and he said
yah Muhammad tell me who can save you
from me now then he said Allah when he
said that his hand start shaking and the
sword fall off his hand he picked The
Sword and the prophet sallam pointed the
sword and he said and who can protect
you from me
now what's God that you believe in can
protect you nobody did the prophet
sallam kill him excute him order His
companion to put him in jail no he let
him go so there's so many incident like
that where the Prophet s through his
teaching through his actions he proved
to his campaign he taught the umah the
Muslims umah that they should be far
away from label as Extreme as a people
who thirsty for killing or for killing
uh people or attacking other nations
that's never been the case in the
history of Islam tell us is there
anything in Islam that allows or
condones someone to hijack a plane
someone to go up and uh bomb a building
where there's civilians in it is there
anything that would give someone some
kind of authority from the verbatim word
of God the Quran or some of the sayings
of authentic sayings from the prophet
Muhammad peace be upon that would allow
such
things absolutely not there is actually
a fatwa which is a ruling been issued by
the senior schars in Saudi Arabia 30
years ago before 911 before all these
happened signed by they condemn these
things and he said specifically that it
is forbidden it is illegal there is
nothing can justify th that to
specifically mention hijacking airplanes
attacking urban areas uh civilians and
bombing them uh like what you hear the
you somebody go and blow up himself
inside uh a pizza store or a train or
bus or airplanes all this there's
nothing can justify that I I can't see
anything in religion can justify that
when people use any evidence to justify
themselves to testify for themselves
doing this actually they Twisted the
verses you know what but they will do
that without any verses in the Quran in
my in in my opinion by looking and
seeing those people how they act they
don't care for a long time and one of
the things I would like to say here the
people not doing this today they've been
doing this for years and years and years
as a specialist as a person who study
Theology and the history of Islam and I
can tell you for the longest time we
have example of people killed not nonm
Muslim the most righteous Muslims like
and they will kill him and they will
believe
or the third C the one of the companions
of Companions of the Prophet yeah they
will kill them and they will believe
that they did the most righteous things
in the world and they will justify this
for themselves by verses here or or
Hadith there so I don't think we should
and this is an advice for my uh friends
the non Muslims friend don't ever be
fool or basically uh believe anybody
just come and said oh God said kill the
disbelievers or do this and do that
because the person that person who
already made that decision he's not
really waiting for a verse or a Hadith
most of them they motivated really
motivated by either Revenge social
problem political Pro politically the
motivated against uh uh others and some
of them religiously be misled
religiously been misled and that's why
we need a lot of Education to those
people a lot of people to debate with
them to talk to them especially before
the reach the L would could be turned to
soldiers one important thing and that's
kind of advise to any Muslim who who who
hear me today to tell there is a stage
the person goes through it first stage
he's thinking about it he hear all this
debate then after a while the person
transfer from being just a citizen to be
a militant to be a person carrying
weapon so whenever you hear the bomb you
hear the pullet been shot that's not the
first stage that's the last stage we
have to deal with it from the from the
basically the roots and to prevent this
from happening and no doubt going back
to the teaching of the Prophet sallam
going back to the verses of the Quran
you will see clearly there is nothing
can justify what you see a group people
like this doing to die uh on in the name
of Islam in the name of Islam that's I
can't see as specialist I can say
anything can justify these actions tell
us because I have a lot of points I want
to cover and if you can put some of
these verses that I'm going to bring up
in context because I'll get certain
people that will uh try to communicate
to me and they'll quote me certain
verses and say look this is what your
book teaches this is what your Prophet
teaches for instance uh Surah 9 verse 5
how would you comment on this okay uh
you know there is a we cannot end this
this short period or this episode to go
over every single verse or evidence that
he might do what I want us to know give
us a formula I want us to know
especially the the the non-muslims who
are not familiar with the system of
Islam there is a common sense it's a
between Islam and any other religion any
academic person or any person who want
to who research for the truth he should
follow that method which is you cannot
ever take one single evidence and you
base your whole argument on it you have
to bring all related evidence to the
subject so you cannot pick one verse
from the Quran and you forgot about the
verse before it and after for instance
that particular verse that you CAU in
Surah 9 verse
5 inba Allah specifically talking about
uh the kufar of quray the pagans of
Mecca who were in war with the Prophet
wasam The Prophet s wasallam had a deal
with them then that deal that treaty
came into an end and now Allah ordered
the prophet to fight those mush and to
basically not to accept uh from them any
treaty okay that exact same verse let's
see how the prophet applied in real life
that verse that we talk about the
prophet Muhammad conquered Mecca when he
conquered Mecca he didn't have a big
fight by the way just maybe for a few
hours just the fight took place and
after that they surrender all those
pagans that the verse said kill them
kill the pagans kill those infidels as
some people might say those people they
were lying up front to the prophet did
the prophet wasam kill them all no the
prophet said you are free to go he took
over his this town which is has the
house of Allah which is meant to be a
pure place to worship Allah alone after
he conquered that he let them go he
didn't kill them so if somebody today
say this verse it kill them why the
proph didn't kill them the prop didn't
do that because that not what it meant
it me we have to understand the religion
in the light of we have to understand
the religion in the light of the how the
Prophet appli this also you take this
verse and compare it to the other verses
what Allah subhana said that you fight
those who are fighting you the people of
Mecca they tried to kill the prophet
sallam they killed his companions they
decare war against him so that's normal
for you to fight them back the people in
the north of Arabia they declare war
against the prophet s wasallam by the
help of the Romans in the north of
Arabia the prophet sallam fought them
back and sent the armies to
them said that the prophet never ever
start a war against anybody actually we
always
saying if they want to have a treaty
with you open the door for them to live
in peace Islam always promote that
people will live in peace Islam is one
of the first oh it's the first religion
as far as I know
that taught his people to accommodate
people from other Faith it's a very
founded in our religion that Christian
and Jews and through the history can
witness for us that through the history
Jewish they could find more safer place
for them more than the muslim's country
to live in it when they've been
basically attacked and killed in Europe
they migrated to that the turkey married
to Morocco married to North Africa to
the Muslims land Christians they've they
also admit and they know that when the
Crusader themselves walk into Jerusalem
and they kill their own the people who
Christians like them but they don't
share with them maybe the same exact
branch of Christianity they never been
treated like this by Islams by the hand
of Islams Christians lived in in in
Egypt and in in north of Africa and all
over the Muslim world and their rights
protected if this been said nobody can
say that it has to be an ideal we don't
live in Ideal World MH Muslims are not
perfect Muslims are like any other
Nation you know there is a difference
between religion and the people who
follow the religion I'm not saying every
state in this history of Islam was a
perfect State there is bad examples and
every in every nation and every
generation you mentioned those examples
what I want to go into next briefly
because we're almost out of time is that
so this would be the defect in the human
being that individual because we can
give examples for instance from people
who were supposed Christian Hitler was
Christian he went out killing a lot of
people uh because they thought he
thought that you know they killed his
God is this correct yeah so we can give
some example KKK they were uh you know
thought they were doing some good stuff
by lynching people uh is there any other
examples that you know of that uh of
other faiths that uh or people in a
faith Tim theic V went up and blew up
some uh building and uh so we want to
separate the actions of individuals from
the whole Christianity Judaism or Islam
I think that's a common sense I don't I
don't need even these examp I don't need
these examples to for me as a Muslim I
really care about my Muslims my my
Muslim brothers and sister I make sure
that they don't cross the lines I I I
really that's my that's my nature I
don't give myself the authority to point
finger to other religions and you have
this happen to you for me I think that's
fine that can be said in examples but I
think that's not the point the point
everybody agree there's a that there is
no uh perfect uh uh human you know
everybody has problems and mistakes yes
maybe some Muslim done something wrong
but look at the benefits that the
Muslims uh have brought to the word as
well look at the the society that we're
living in there's a lot of things we
enjoy today modern science started by a
lot of Muslim scientists Muslim
civilizations have contributed to it and
the Muslims were world today are part of
this uh basically uh globalization that
we're living in and we have to figure a
way for Muslims and non-muslims to
coexist together in peace and we all
line up against those minorities which
is the extreme group I think they are
minority but they are loud and I think
one of the biggest mistake that the
media triy to do is try to make them big
try to basically make them bigger than
what they really are and try to label
Muslim there is 1 billion Muslim the
face of the Earth you cannot label
Muslims you cannot uh basically say all
Muslims or most of them are like that
and those people are minorities and they
are isolated but they are loud and
sometimes we give them the
excuse we give them the excuse to do
what they doing by
basically not practicing what we believe
uh if I may say something here one of
the biggest problem I see in what So-Cal
war against terrorism um that a lot of
people who declare that they are not
sincere in this mhm they do it for
political reasons yeah or for economic
reasons to make money out of it they're
not really sincere about it and that's
one of the biggest problem for Muslims
especially the Muslim Scholars they are
sincere about fighting terrorism and
extremism because one of my goal those
people who are extremes I want to save
them from the Hellfire as well I want to
reach my hand to them to save them I'm
not their enemy in a sense I also one
person who want to give them dawa I want
to give I want to guide them I want them
to uh leave this path that they have
taken and go back to the society and be
part of the society I think if we are
sincere about it I think we will succeed
more than what we are doing right now so
tell us the main uh Message of Islam now
we have we we've clearly stated the
facts that Islam condemns killing
innocent uh women children it doesn't
give authority to go hijack a plane bomb
a building I mean you have a right to
defend yourself is this clear somebody
trying to come in your house come and
force you out of you know your home you
have a right like anybody to defend
yourself but there's a line that you
don't
cross there is very important point also
for a lot of non-muslims to know they
ask me a lot about Jihad and the con
Jihad and things like that there is one
important thing that non Muslim to
understand the nature of religion Islam
is is a way of life in a sense Islam
came to teach people uh how to establish
a state so it's not like a spiritual
things you do it in the church in Sunday
or certain times or certain prayer
before you eat and or it's not like
occasional things it's not like just
very general moral system that you
follow Islam has a lot of details
related to the way you live your life
the way you live your life so part of
the teaching of Islam to live as a
community as a state the issue of
declaring war if you have a Muslim
Islamic State uh which we call the
defense Ministry today or you know we
have the six the Secretary of Defense
that position in Islam there is rulings
and there is teaching from Muhammad and
from Allah through the Quran to teach
that Secretary of Defense how to behave
in a time of War
how to that leader of the Muslim State
how to declare or how to deal with uh
those who declare war against Muslim or
they are potential enemy for Islam he
give him the guidelines these guidelines
this Constitution that Governor this
department of the Muslim state that what
you call it the chapter of a Jihad in
Islam that's basically what it does it
is everything in that chapter is in the
hand of the government the hand of the
rulers the hand of the army are the
generals who ruling the muslim's uh
basically country it's not something
left for individual to declare it's not
left to uh people to say whatever they
want no it's not like that and many
people they couldn't see that they could
understand that why these rules exist
it's ruling exist because that's how to
govern or the states that's how the
Muslim should use this teaching in their
states as a leader uh this guidelines
for them uh a couple more points we're
almost out of time there's a lot of
access to new information on the web I'm
just curious have you uh you know uh
there's things like 911 because a lot of
this stem from 9/11 which we said that
you know Islam is separate from this
there's once again uh making this a
strong point that Islam has nothing to
do with these kind of uh atrocities
Muslims died in these things in this
event also didn't they uh have you heard
of uh this program or things like 911
coincidences or any of these things have
you watched no no okay you know like a
plane is
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missing in this Photograph an astonished
onlooker sees exactly what we're seeing
the Pentagon had not yet collapsed and
again there is no sign of any wreckage
whatsoever no tail no fuselage no wings
no wheels no engines no seats no luggage
nothing on the outside of the Pentagon
how does a seven 57 fit into a 16t hole
and leave no damage or wreckage on the
outside of the Pentagon there's no plane
at the Pentagon you haven't looked into
any of these things which point totally
away from a different direction it's a
lot of facts it's just questions that
are raised there's a lot of celebrities
coming out the only you know I felt that
the only um real uh validation I needed
was just being a a taxpaying American
that loves my country done a lot of
research and it's not just me it's the
people people that have come before me
the the experts and the the uh the
engineers and the physicists and the
scientists and the scholars that that
that raised a lot of these things and I
and I and I took a look at their
research and said yeah it doesn't add up
a lot of it doesn't add up hence these
questions you know and there there's two
areas there's building seven and there's
the five frames from the Pentagon don't
listen to me do your own research you
know but I think that you know what what
what happened to a time in this country
when we were entitled when we had a
constitutional and a god-given right to
be curious about things that that didn't
make sense don't listen to me do your
own research and there was like
detonations committ at least two blocks
and we started running floor by floor
instead of popping out it was like it
was if if they
hadon they were planned to take down a
building all the way down I was and I
mean even if I'm a person who doesn't
like uh conspiracy theories I don't
believe question yes one man caretaker
William Rodriguez rescued hundreds of
people from the North Tower and it's
thought he was the last person to Get
Out Alive before it collapsed now we're
told that you rescued these people you
got out and then you went back in didn't
you why was that well three times I went
into the building because I wanted to
help the people that were actually stuck
at Windows of the world which was the
restaurant that was located on the 106th
floor of the North Tower while everybody
was running out I was running in back
and forth trying to get to them and to
help the rescue effort as he started uh
I had the only master key I work in the
building for 20 years as a janitor and I
have the only master key that was used
on 9911 can I just ask you one question
because we we we've seen there the
picture that harrowing picture two
planes crashed into the Twin Towers and
yet you still maintain there was a
conspiracy I believe that uh no I I
don't doubt that the I mean the planes
were there the plane H hit the building
but before and one of the experiences
that I said even when I was pulled from
the Robble or 911 is that there was an
initial explosion on the sub level
number two B2 there were six up levels
in the building before prior the plane
hitting the building and I believe that
that was an explosion set up by
explosive to actually weaken the
foundation nothing will ever change your
mind that you think I was there I saved
people I actually have the people
available for the 911 Commission that
was the commission that was created to
investigate this they were never called
not even once they're still available 5
years after and the government came out
with an official story that went against
our experience on that day question I
don't like to treat things like that but
I'll never heard of 911 coincidences
welcome ladies and gentlemen my name is
William Rodriguez I'm the last survivor
of the North Tower of the war Trade
Center and as you know I have gone
around the world talking about what
really happened on 911 and how they have
used 911 for the politics of fear
remember that well it has been worse
because last year I announced that I
became a
Muslim
so they I'd like to be
more commed at least two blocks and we
started running floor by floor instead
of popping out it was it was if they
hadon were plan to take down a building
boom bo all the way down I was question
I don't like to treat things like that
but I'll tell you never heard of 911
coincidence I heard about this argument
but I don't believe it's correct I
believe it's happened I believe it's
happened I believe um generally what we
hear in the news it's it's that's what I
think it happened but for me it's not
far from the truth you for some people
some Muslims said oh Muslim cannot do
that why it's possible it's possible for
them to do that you know what I I don't
I don't I I I was not shocked I was not
surprised when this happened because
those people who carried that attack
against uh United States is the same
people who carry attacked in Riyad
attacked in Egypt in Algeria I mean they
don't they not hesitant to do like this
and worst to their own people so I
wouldn't surprised if they do that to
America or to to England or Spain or
anywhere in the world I'm not surprised
in so I don't need even to go through
that to say oh they didn't do it I
whatever you know I'm not going to go
into the details of of proving it happen
or not but I would like to live in peace
and I don't like to think much of the
conspiracy theory speaking of peace now
Islam somebody who's out there and now
they've gotten to hear that Islam
condemns uh these kind of Acts Islam is
clear of these kind of events Islam is
about submission and surrender to one
God doing what he wants you to do and
living in peace with the Creator with
yourself and Society absolutely give us
some more details describing what
somebody now would have to do to accept
Islam and to live Islam talk about this
briefly before we come to an end I just
want to say very simple message to all
my brother and sisters who out there
watching us tonight or today whatever
time you have now uh Islam is about
worshiping Allah subhana alone the one
who created you the one who created all
this universe for you he deserved to be
worshiped alone not to ass any other
with him a human or any other creation
you submit yourself to your lord he
created you as he
said I have created man and Jin for no
reason but to worship me alone as much
you submit yourself to him you thank him
you basically believe that he is your
lord and you obey what he uh order you
to do obeying him that's the real
meaning of worship that's the real
message the essential message of
Muhammad alaih wasallam you know don't
confuse yourself with all these details
and talk that's what going to make you
survive in the day of judgment to know
why he created you why you are there why
you are been created is to worship him
to know him and without realizing this
fact the persons live this life lost may
Allah to guide all of us and thank you
very much for having me tonight thank
you sh for being with us and I'd like to
thank you for tuning in to another
episode of the dean show come back every
week visit us and we hopefully clear
some of this junk that's out there so
you can see the truth and hopefully you
accept the truth that there's only one
God he created you he took care of you
when you're in your mother's womb he's
there ready to forgive you all you got
to do is accept him as your creator the
last and final messenger the prophet
Muhammad peace be upon Him Islam is not
a new religion it's the same way of life
that was brought by all the
messengers so when you're ready to do
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help you you're are brothers in humanity
but take that next
step except that there is only one God
you're ready to do what he wants you to
do on his terms and then you be our
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you
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