them killing Christians is going to get
them 72 virgins in heaven. That Islam is
public enemy number one against Christ.
>> Is the fastest growing religion in the
US. Like it or lump it. You know, you're
talking about serious millions.
>> Through many of these occurrences and
events, people come to Islam.
>> Message that all the prophets brought
was that we should worship God alone.
>> That's where the topic of hijra comes
in.
>> With Jake Lang and these other
Islamophobe try to start Fitna. Wherever
you go in the world, you will find
Muslims.
>> A lot of people feel quite confused when
it comes to the trinity.
>> The Old Testament, Muhammad Sallallahu
Alaihi Wasallam is mentioned by name in
>> the
Alhamdulillah. Asalam alaikum. Greetings
of peace. Now, here are some facts you
don't hear often. Muslims helped build
America. This is not an opinion. It's an
historical fact. From the very beginning
of this country, enslaved Muslims were
brought to America, practiced Islam, and
left behind documented writings,
letters, and autobiographies
with historians placing the number as
high as 30% in certain regions and
possibly more since many were forced to
conceal or abandon their faith under
Christian slavery, justifying it with
the Bible. Unfortunately, this is also
documented. There's also documented
historical evidence and scholarly
research discussing Muslims presence in
the Americas prior to Columbus.
Prior to Columbus, Muslims have been
part of America since its earliest days.
Help build it with their labor,
intellect, and faith. Islam submission
to the creator, not the creation.
and our Americans, past, present, and
future. Yet today, many hate provocators
are openly calling for Muslims to be
kicked out of America. It's
unbelievable, a country Muslims helped
build. And that's why my next guest is
asking a very serious question. Is it
time to make Hijra?
Joining us today is Dr. Bal Phillips,
founder of IOU University, renowned
scholar, author, chancellor and
international speaker. Dr. Bala, welcome
to the show along with Abdul Rahman.
Salam alaikum.
>> Salam.
>> How are you, Shay? How's everything with
you?
>> I am fine. Alhamdulillah. It's good to
see you again and join you on the Dean
Show. You know, I've uh I've been around
since the founding of the Dean Show
along with you.
>> Yes, you have.
>> And uh
>> Yes, you have.
>> Mashallah.
uh it's really blossomed and grown and
developed
uh globally
and um alhamdulillah it's it's it's very
good for us to uh link up again and um
do some things together for the sake and
the pleasure of Allah.
>> Now you heard me open the show and I was
talking about the Muslim presence in
America past, present and future. And
then I'm going to get into this video
now because unfortunately as Muslims
many have don't study history, you know,
they're not aware of these facts. And
now the situation here in America is
that some are calling for Muslims to
leave. And that's where the topic comes
into hijra because you're not actually
saying stay. You're like, it might be
time to go. So, but let let's get into
this uh clip here and I want to get your
guys' reaction.
>> If you're not in your word, you don't
understand that Islam is public enemy
number one against Christ. Islam goes
against everything Christ teaches. I
don't care how this makes you feel. If
you're uncomfortable with this, that
just means you're uncomfortable with the
truth that Christ came here to teach.
Islam does not worship God. Quote
unquote. Islam worships Satan. Look at
the Quran. Look at what they're
teaching. Look at what's going on in
Africa right now. They are killing these
people because that's what they're
supposed to do. They are killing
Christians because that's what their
Quran tells them to do. That's what
Allah tells them to do. In their mind,
them killing Christians is going to get
them 72 virgins in heaven. That's what
that's what we're dealing with right
now. That is what is coming to our front
door if we don't stand firm in the
truth.
>> All right.
>> Amen. Now, you used to be a Christian
also and you your story is out there. I
don't know Abdman. Welcome to the show.
How are you,
brother Eddie and Dr. B Phillips. It's a
pleasure to be here.
>> You're also from the IOU University.
>> Alhamdulillah. I'm here as the US
representative for IOU.
>> Are you also a convert to Islam?
>> Not me, but both of my parents. My
father from Colombia originally and my
mother who's American.
>> Now, tell me what are your guys'
thoughts when you see this police person
who's in a uniform. He's supposed to be
upholding the constitution. He's calling
Islam evil. He's talking about Islam
goes against everything Christ teaches.
Islam does not worship God. What else
did the Islam Islam Islam worship Satan?
Look at the Quran. Uh the teachings uh
calls to go after Christians and what's
happening in Africa. You spent a lot of
time in Africa. Sheh uh Dr. Bal
Phillips, you're one of our scholars.
What do you say when you see this, when
you hear this? What is your response to
this uh this police officer?
>> Well, he's obviously ignorant. He
doesn't know what the teachings of Islam
are.
and he's heard propaganda,
you know, by
ignorant missionaries,
you know, who have tried to uh promote
Christianity
uh in at the expense of Islam or at the
expense of Muslims
or denigrating Muslims.
This is not new. It's been around
uh people in ignorance.
You know, it's not uncommon to hear them
say things like he said, "May God guide
him.
Forgive him for his ignorance."
But um the fact of the matter is that
Islam is the fastest growing religion in
the US.
like it or lump it, you know, that's the
reality.
And um every time new incidents occur
globally
in the Muslim world, etc., and
non-Muslims
go to try to find out what is this
Muslim country, you know, what is Islam
and so and so, then a new wave of people
join Islam. You know this is the the
worst incidents that you could think of.
You know 911 for example you know the
number of thousands of people who
accepted Islam after 911 you know speaks
to the the facts about the truth not
that 911 was an act that made people
accept Islam. No it was an evil act.
Islam doesn't support it.
However, the fact of the matter is that
Islam does not call to killing innocent
people.
Of course, if there is war and one has
to fight to defend oneself, then that's
reality. No matter how much a person
might think that they are um
they are Christian and they don't kill
others etc etc but when war comes you
know how many people died in World War I
and World War II you know you're talking
about serious millions
you know so uh really you know the
Christian world that have fought the
world wars
you
in Nagasaki and Hiroshima where tens of
thousands of people were killed in
instance.
Explosion of atomic bombs, people just
dying,
not people who are necessarily fighting
or anything. Innocent people, completely
innocent, killed, wiped out, you know.
And the people who did this were
Christians.
So, so is that what Christianity
teaches? No, of course not. No, that's
not what the teachings of Jesus was
about.
But ignorant people, you know, who
don't have knowledge of the true
teachings that are at the foundation of
what we now know today as Christianity.
The teachings which Jesus brought which
were in fact from the Muslim belief
Islamic teachings. There's no difference
between what Jesus taught and what Jesus
practiced and what Muslims believe and
what Muslims practice. You know, it's
it's a continuation.
So when he says that Islam
goes against everything Christ teaches,
what does that actually mean? Because
it's a part of
>> it means he doesn't know what Christ
taught.
>> That's what that's what it means
fundamentally.
>> He doesn't have any idea. He just hears
what's said, you know, by this preacher
and that preacher and the other. He's
not gone through and studied, you know,
Christianity. I mean how is it that we
have people who are priests, nuns, you
know, from the the the the church
accepting Islam? We have larger
proportions of
trained and scholarly
Christians who have accepted Islam.
You know where you you won't find any
trained scholarly Muslim accepting
Christianity
though they recognize Jesus as a prophet
of God and all Muslims are required to
recognize Jesus as a prophet of God.
that we don't pray to him or pray
through him. We pray to God as he prayed
to God.
>> What was the other? Islam does not
worship God. Islam that was one of his
other statements. Islam does not worship
God.
>> That that's a clear evidence of
ignorance. Serious ignorance, you know.
And of course, when you're ignorant, you
can say anything.
>> Anything. Yeah. It's unbelievable.
It's it's unbelievable the kind of
things that And he's hearing a lot of
this stuff. U later on it goes on seems
like from his church and his pastor uh
Islam worships Satan. That's one of the
things he said. Islam worship Satan.
>> This is of course totally
absurd. Muslims recognize Satan and the
satanic
world
as the enemy of
God and human beings.
So, and as Islam teaches us to
keep
satanic
uh forces at bay, we don't allow them to
take over
the world.
We struggle with them collectively and
along with all others who struggle
similarly.
So that this world can be a better place
in which God alone is worshiped. From
God alone
success
will come at the end of this world.
>> Abd Rahman, what are what are your
thoughts? What are your thoughts? Um
reacting to this uh police officer, some
of the comments that he made in uniform.
So,
>> Subhan Allah, it's very shocking that
the people entrusted to protect the
people of the United States under this
constitution are saying things uh in
this regard. It's absolutely
unacceptable. And what we will find what
Dr. Bilal has just mentioned is the
reoccurrence of this throughout history
and this will continue to happen has
been happening since the beginning of
this um and what we will find is that
our responsibility as Muslims
is that when these events happen yes
they are tragedies and they are terrible
many of them but there is a slight
blessing in disguise that many of
through or through many of these
occurrences and events people come to
Islam and it our responsibility as
Muslims to know how to respond to people
when they say things like this. And
unfortunately, it's very sad that people
in masses are coming out in masses are
coming out and saying that Muslims are
not uh you know, they're not able to
intertwine with our American and Western
values,
which is not something necessarily that
we want to do. But to say that we are
incompatible with living with people in
the west and non-Muslims is very far
from the truth. And alhamdulillah we can
see that the legacy
uh in the foundation of international
open university brings about a world
where alhamdulillah anyone anywhere can
get Islamicized higher education and
learn about the dean and be able to
respond properly in the way allahel and
his messenger sallallahu alaihi wasallam
obligated for us to and I think that is
the thing that I would bring to the in
this situation is that I hope and I pray
that more of us Muslims take up the
stand and learn the dean in the way that
we should so that we are able to
navigate not only these situations
but able to bring people to Islam
through them.
>> He mentioned Dr. Bal he mentioned Africa
and that the Quran is what's happening
in Africa. You spent a lot of time in
Africa haven't you? And he's trying to
he's trying to use the Quran that it's
saying that the Quran is calling the
Muslims to oppress the Christians and
that's why things are happening the way
they're happening negatively against
Christians from Muslims due to the Quran
calling Muslims to go ahead and oppress
Christians.
>> Of course, that's again an expression of
ignorance. you know, so we feel sorry
for him and we ask Allah to guide him,
God.
>> Amen.
>> Almighty.
>> Uh
the reality of course in terms of
what the message of Islam is is is is
that of
worshiping one God.
the God of Adam
and the God of all of the prophets
between Adam and the last of the
prophets, Muhammad, may God's peace and
blessings be on all of them. The message
that all the prophets brought was that
we should worship God alone. We should
not worship along with God other
demigods.
We shouldn't uh worship
instead of God the one true God
other gods by other names
from other
ways in which human beings have deviated
from worshiping the one true God.
There's only one God.
There's only one human race.
There's only one religion
which God
created for human beings.
It's this oneness
that unites human beings on earth.
And
it is through implementing this oneness
in our lives. Oneness of worshiping God
meaning worshiping the commands of God
along with God.
Because if we worshiping God, whatever
he commands us to do, we should also do
it. So it's worshiping God and living a
life in accordance with the commands
which God has revealed for his
prophets that he has sent to human the
human race, human beings in different
parts of the earth earth. And we believe
that prophets were sent as we were told
to all nations and tribes across the
earth. Now tell me
this is the kind of thing the rhetoric
that we're hearing and this is causing a
lot of people to fear Muslims in Islam
and they become victims to the hate
propaganda
and many because of that fear are
talking about get Muslims out of here
get them you know kick them out of
America etc etc now that's where the
topic of hijra comes in this concept of
of hijra can can You talk about this uh
Dr. Bala and Abdman. This is the the
situation now that's happening and
instead of saying stay, you're
suggesting possibly is it time to leave?
Well, the principle of immigration of
leaving the land that you're in and
going to another land
is something which existed
from the earliest of times in the time
of Prophet Muhammad. May God's peace and
blessings be upon him.
his
companions
who were suffering in Mecca.
A number of his companions immigrated to
Abbasinia because it was revealed to the
prophet that there was a ruler in
Abbascinia who worshiped the one true
God and
came to their support
when they immigrated
to Abisinia.
And that process of immigrating
is what is called hijra in
uh Islamic Arabic in you may hear it
used in different occasions. And this is
what it refers to. refers to leaving
either a a land of disbelief and going
to the land of Islam
or it could be from a land of
innovation.
You know they're Muslims there but they
have gone off the path and and got
involved in in heresies practices which
are what they call in Arabic bid you
know innovation which
happens to religions after prophets die
you know their followers it's not
uncommon
uh historically that the followers have
deviated from the original teachings
or it could be leaving a land which is
dominated
by haram.
You know that the haram being what is
forbidden by God, what God has
forbidden. But if if haram things become
dominant in that land that Muslims are
encouraged to leave that area if they're
not able to change it.
If they're able to change it, then of
course it's better to stay and try to
change it to correct the situation. But
if they're unable, then it's better for
them to leave and go to a place where
they can practice the teachings of
Islam,
the teachings of true worship of God
without fear.
And it could be hijra could be also for
uh people looking to improve the quality
of their life. You know, they're from
other countries where the quality of
life is is low. Um
they want to improve
for themselves and their families.
So they go to other countries where the
economies are better and they are able
to then benefit their family
and
even
on a
theoretical perspective, a non tangible
perspective
where we're talking about believing
whatever God as forbidden the the
process of doing that
is itself also considered to be hijra.
So hijra can take a number of different
forms.
And in the US,
uh, many have left the US and moved to
Muslim countries in other parts of the
world because they feel pressure from
the society
uh to conform to certain norms and
accepted practices in the US which go
against the teachings, you know, of
Islam.
So
a person has to look at their individual
situations and decide whether it's time
for them to immigrate to another country
where they can better practice Islam in
safety and in peace
as an option
for a better life. Abd Rahman, your your
your comments because you're actually
from America. You were born in America.
>> That's correct. Yes. You're in Dallas,
Texas.
>> What are your thoughts? You understand
the climate and what's happening now.
Are you feeling it? And what are your
reflections and thoughts on everything?
>> Subhan Allah. I'm sure you've heard
about what happened at Epic Masid. It's
been very popular here with Jake Lang
and these other Islamophobes who decided
to come down here and try to start Fitna
to terrorize the Muslim community
uh to sort of bring about an image that
Muslims are taking over even though we
make up less than 1% or so of the
population. Subhan Allah. What I find is
that in these moments, you know, from
here on forward, it's only going to get
hotter. And we might be living in the
times where the prophet sallallahu
alaihi wasallam said that, you know,
holding on to your dean will be like
burning coals in your hand, holding on
to burning coals. And if we're not
there, then we're getting close to
there. And we find that this movement uh
this Islamophobic movement, this push to
remove Muslims,
thirdworlders, anyone who is not pure,
maybe white and Aryan is the way they
like it uh from the country is
absolutely wrong on every single level.
And we as Muslims have to stand up for
not only our rights but what's true and
what's correct. And what Dr. was just
saying is the fact that there are
different forms of hijra and sometimes
we're not able to make the biggest form
of hijra and there's different forms of
it. One of those forms is preparing
yourself by removing the and the evil
the fna and moving towards that which is
good. So I encourage everyone whether or
not they have the ability or they make
the choice to make hijra there are
smaller hij that we can make and
sometimes it's not best to take the
biggest step first but to take the
smaller steps that will eventually lead
you to being su successful in taking
that big step.
>> I want to go ahead and take a minute and
bring out someone who's uh reached out
ML Paneer. He's actually from uh born in
South Africa. He's a Christian from New
Zealand and he has some questions about
Islam. He wanted to ask some questions
and we have Dr. Balo Phillips here who
can inshallah go ahead and help us uh to
answer some of these questions. How are
you Emil? Is that you Emil?
>> Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for
having me on. I really appreciate it.
>> How are you? So you're originally from
South Africa?
>> Yes. And raised in New Zealand and
currently living in Australia. So it's a
bit of a mixed bag.
>> Uh we have Dr. Bal Phillips here and we
have Abdul Rahman is um from the IOU
University and myself. So please you
said you had some some questions some
basic questions about uh Islam. What
what made you interested to to learn
more about Islam?
Well, um, a friend from South Africa who
was in, um, primary school with me, uh,
just about two years ago, um, converted
over to Islam. He had moved to New
Zealand as well. And sort of amongst the
group of people that I was raised with
and so on, that was kind of unheard of
cuz we're we're all Christian, you know.
So, um, so at the very first moment, uh,
I was first pulled back a little bit cuz
I was like, what's happening? This is my
mate. I've known him for since since we
were seven, you know, and, um, all of a
sudden he converts over to Islam. But
then I actually called him up and I
said, "Hey, bro, why why did you convert
over?" Instead of uh, being like pushed
away, I was like, "He is my mate. He's
my brother. Let's let's hear him out.
let's hear what he's got to say. And so
the big thing there, what happened was
he didn't started expressing that he was
reading through the Bible.
Whole bunch of things didn't really make
sense to him. And then he started
reading the Quran and he felt that the
Quran made a lot more sense. And so he
he then started asking me a whole bunch
of questions about my own faith. And so
first off, um, you you feel a little
uncomfortable when being asked, but then
I thought, no, this is really good. This
is a very good dialogue. And then I
remembered I'd been watching Christian
apologists and everything. And a lot of
them actually mentioned you, Eddie, and
they all everybody always said he's very
honorable. He always he always hears
somebody out. He will always have a chat
if he gets the opportunity. So then I
thought I'd reach out and um so I'm very
appreciative that you gave me the time.
>> Thank you. You you're welcome. And I
thought it's a good opportunity because
uh we have uh Dr. Balah Phillips. We
don't have him on every day. He's also a
former Christian. He's somebody who is
very wellversed um in comparative
religion. So uh if we could be of help,
please go ahead and ask away.
So I guess um I guess one of my uh basic
questions uh or I think it's both basic
but also deep is uh why would you say
people are so um at this stage anyway so
attracted to Islam because the more and
more I speak to people the more and more
even with an age gear I have found that
there's a lot of people from a Catholic
background that has started moving
towards Islam And I just wanted to know
what what what would you guys say is the
attraction towards Islam.
>> Did you hear his question Dr. Balo?
>> Yes, I heard it. And uh it's a common
question. A lot of people when you see
people who are your friends or whatever
you know moving in that direction you
want to know
what's motivating them you know what's
what are the factors and uh and there
are a variety of different reasons why
people have converted to Islam and
continue to convert this it's the
fastest growing religion globally
understood
and Um
even myself as you mentioned you know I
was raised in a Christian family. My
grandfather was a
minister in the Presbyterian church in
Jamaica
and uh you know Jamaica is a Christian
country for the most part. So
that's my origins.
But uh I chose Islam
for reasons that were
related to my individual personal
growth. uh
>> and um and you'll find that many people
who convert to Islam in the west do so
on that basis also you know that
individually they're seeking they didn't
find what they wanted in in Christianity
or in Hinduism or Buddhism or other isms
and uh they found the answers
uh that for what they were looking in
Islam.
This is uh quite common.
So,
alhamdulillah,
I glad to hear our guest uh sharing his
own experiences and his surprise at
these friends.
converting to Islam and wanting to know
more. And uh as Muslims, we try to be as
open as possible and share, you know,
what we have, what knowledge, what
information we have with others.
>> Abd Rahman, is there anything you wanted
to add to that? I wanted to add, you
know, subhan Allah, wherever you go in
the world, you will find Muslims and you
will find the trend, the exact same
trend, people moving to Islam. And in my
own family, you know, my my grandfather,
my mother's father, he was the deacon of
the church in their community.
And my father also came from a very
religious Catholic family. And you'll
find that a lot of times people who I've
spoken to growing up uh in these faiths
have found that they had questions that
were never answered. And similarly like
Dr. Bil said is a lot of people come
they simply read the Quran and they find
that many of those questions
that they've been looking for over their
lifetime are simply answered like that.
And I think that's the simple path, the
straight path. And I think that everyone
who's truthful and has the desire to
connect with allahel
with the lord and creator will find it.
>> Emil, is it Emil?
>> Yes. Yes. Emil. Yeah.
>> Emil. Yes.
>> Did they answer your question?
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's um it's sort of
interesting what our brother said here
about um just uh you you find it to be
quite clear when you're reading the
Quran. Um for for me like because of my
friend I s sort of started reading the
Quran a little bit myself. Uh wouldn't
wouldn't be close to an expert or
anything on it. But um
it actually sort of leads into my next
question. I I was watching a video of
yours, Dean, where it's probably about
14 years ago this one, but where there
was a man on I can't I don't really want
to butcher names or anything, but uh
when he when he was speaking, he said
that uh it it was actually you that
first said
um once you start reading the Quran, uh
it actually clarifies things and God is
not a god of confusion and where you see
you ended up expressing that when it
comes to something like the Trinity that
a lot of people feel quite confused when
it comes to the Trinity. Um
what what I found though is uh I guess
when I'm reading the Quran a little bit
and please uh if I'm saying anything
that um sounds like strange or anything,
please just stop me and so on. Like I
don't I'm not I'm not here to try and
offend anybody or anything. So, um, so I
I felt a little bit confused when I was
reading the Quran and when it was, um, I
guess the most common verses that
Christians will generally bring up and
so on. And uh so I don't want to try and
be too common and bore you guys with
these, but when it says things such as
uh people of the book, if you are in in
doubt uh or Muhammad, uh like I said,
you can correct me on the verse. I don't
mind. Muhammad, if you're in doubt, go
to the people of the book. And it seems
like it usually points to the Torah and
the Injil. And every time I like look at
these arguments that goes on online,
then there's like a big argument as to
what what exactly is the Torah, what
exactly is the injeal, and what do they
exactly mean about going to the people
of the book? And so I felt very confused
with that. And so uh I wouldn't mind
some clarification. Ju, uh I get it's a
very big topic. So, I'm not uh asking
for you guys to have an uh perfect
answer here, but just some
clarification. I wouldn't mind.
>> Dr. Bala,
>> did you hear his question?
>> Yeah, I got it. Um, in terms of people
of the book, you know, this is in
reference to the previous books of
Revelation
which God revealed to some of his
prophets.
uh not all of the prophets received
books. Some of the prophets
continued with the book of the previous
prophets.
You know, it depends on the
circumstances. In some cases, the books
were distorted, changed, etc. So when
God ro rose up from among the people
>> a new prophet
he would reveal a new book to that
prophet.
So it is our basic belief that
prophets were sent to all the major
nations
and and tribes across the earth.
124,000
prophets.
We don't know the names of the vast
majority of them. Maybe their books,
even the books that came are not around
anymore.
or messages that they had evolved and
turned into
other things which were maybe even
against the original teachings.
Now, so all of that is out there. But
the essential message
if we considered Adam to be the first
prophet
of God and that is our belief. The first
human being was also the first prophet
of God in the sense that he was given
revelation
and
he
guided the first generation of human
beings
and
possibly the second. We don't have the
details to go back and say how many
generations he lived but uh he was the
prophet of that first batch of human
beings and God revealed to him
right and wrong who he should worship
and what he should not worship
how he should worship
and the commandments maybe it wasn't the
ten commandments at that time it became
ten commandments in the time of Moses
you know uh it's commandments in the
Quran also but they're not been given
numbers specific numbers so
the point is that God created human
beings and didn't leave them to find
their own way
he knew his creation
was in need of
human beings kings who would also guide
them as well as books of revelation to
further guide them to be be amongst them
be they would have access to it and be
able to benefit from it. But the
essential message is that God alone
should be worshiped and the essence of
worshiping God
is
doing
whatever God has commanded us to do.
Because he creating human beings knows,
the laws,
the rules that human beings need to
maintain
a healthy
society, a healthy community, a healthy
uh environment.
And
this was the
principle followed
generation after generation down to our
generation
and uh the essence of it all is guidance
of for human beings. The human beings
were created are not left to figure out
things themselves
because we are one human race
created by one God.
We don't need multiple messages
to go figure out for ourselves how
things should be and that no we the
essential
way of God
has been
laid out for us by messengers of God
that God sent to guide human beings till
the end of this world. So that's the
basic picture of human beings
and God and the message of God.
>> Emil,
>> yes.
>> All right, we got time for one more
question and we're going to start to go
ahead and wrap up. Do you have any more
question? One more.
>> Yes. Yes. Uh th this one was the one I
found quite interesting was I um I had
my friend and a few others that I've
spoken to say that u Muhammad is
mentioned in the Bible. Um and I was
trying to find out where those passages
were. Now once again you can tell me yes
or no or or just tell me where you uh
see them in scripture. It' be quite good
for me while I'm doing my studies to go
look that up and just read a bit further
if if you don't mind. Well, personally,
I haven't
memorized
the verses and the numbers, you know, to
give you that information, but we'll
pass that information on to Eddie if
Eddie doesn't have it himself because in
in your context, I'm sure you've run
into this question, you know, more than
once. Uh so uh inshallah you can either
tell him now if you've got it memorized
you remember it or we can get it for
you. you know uh the there is
a
couple of verses in the Bible in the Old
Testament where
Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam is
mentioned by name in in Hebrew right
it's in Hebrew Muhammadim
it's not a Muhammad as we know it
exactly but it's very close to it
muhamadim
So that reference is there. The actual
um
scripture and and verse number etc. I
don't recall it but there is argument
for it. There are other verses which you
know describe
the prophets hijra from Mecca to Medina
you know uh move moving from one part of
Arabia to another part of Arabia it's
mentioned in there without a name being
put on it there vague uh references you
could say or or pointers towards
you know, but
essentially
the
the the Bible does contain much of the
message of the Bible uh in terms of the
earlier prophets etc. the worship of one
God, you know, not worshiping idols and
God's creation and other human beings.
No, this has been conveyed in the Bible
itself and it is conveyed in the Quran
from beginning to end.
>> Emil
>> I don't know our brother Abdman Abdman
Abdman Riv
>> I believe Dr. Bal explained properly and
thoroughly um what we believe on this
point and of course he explained that
those words Muhammaden are in the Hebrew
Bible and so simply all we would need to
do is have that transferred over to you
inshallah and that's what we will do
>> Emil. Yes,
>> thank you very much. You know, you know,
usually what I the advice I give to
people is I mean it's very simple. It's
a part of a longer a kootsie hadith and
she dralo you can go ahead and expound
on this if you want as we u depart with
our guest but I usually with all the
confusion out there you know something
that's very simple I leave people with
homework that God almighty the creator
law is saying that all of my slaves are
misguided all of us unless I guide them.
So ask me for my guidance. This is
something where I leave people something
very simple is to ask the creator of the
heavens and the earth alone. You don't
have to call him Allah. You can call him
the one who created me to guide me,
guide me, guide me. If these Muslims,
these Muslims, if this Quran is from
you, God almighty. If this the one who
created me, then guide me to the truth.
It's very straightforward and simple.
It's the It's the test I think um any
believer likes to give uh somebody that
doesn't believe as well. So
>> yeah. No, thank you very much.
>> Thank you for reaching out. Let's stay
in touch. I'll get you this and uh if
you have any other questions, please uh
stay in touch and we'll we'll try to
help you along your way.
>> Okay. No, thank you very much. I
appreciate it.
>> You're welcome.
>> Okay. See you.
>> See you. Bye.
>> Bye. It's a pleasure.
>> All right. So as
>> to see you again
>> as as we wrap up now knowledge is so
important. This is something that um we
stress very much so and we have the
chancellor the founder of the Islamic
IOU University. Let's let's spend the
remaining um few minutes that we have
directing people how they can go and
take their knowledge to the next level.
They've just accepted Islam
as
Email joined us. He's Christian. His
friends are accepting Islam. He wants to
know more. And hopefully he comes to the
realization that this is indeed the
truth. Someone there's many people like
him who are taking their shahada,
testifying that there's nothing worthy
worship except the creator of the
heavens and earth, Allah, and Muhammad
is the final messenger. And now it
doesn't stop there. It's a lifetime of
learning. If you've you've spent your
your life, Dr. Balo
uh on this journey and you've you've
you've simplified it for people in a
structured way. Let's talk about the IOU
>> university.
>> The international open university.
>> Yes, international open university.
>> The IOU was officially founded
in 2010.
launched
it had precursors. I started from the
year 2000 trying to set up a university
online but it took me 10 years for it to
materialize
you know after a number of different
efforts
and the goal of the IOU
or
should I let uh
>> Abdman
>> because you're the representative in
America. No, you know what people
usually ask etc. You you want to share
it or you want me to go ahead
>> please? It would be my honor. Dr. Bil
>> go ahead.
So, alhamdulillah as Dr. Bilal was just
saying. Subhan Allah. We've been around
for almost 25 years now.
>> Not officially 25 years has been the
process of Dr. Bilal working towards
this vision of providing Islamicized and
secular education to our brothers and
sisters worldwide.
from a fully accredited
university which alhamdulillah after all
of this struggle from something very
small has now become the largest Islamic
online university in the world
providing
what no one else has been able to
provide and that's fully accredited
Islamicized
degree programs with the secular aspects
also fully involved
for a price that no one else can offer.
All of this straight to your fingertips
in the comfort of your home. And subhan
Allah, only a thousand years ago, our
same brothers and sisters, our ancestors
were traveling through the deserts and
across the land for one or two hadith.
And subhan Allah, allahel has made it so
that now we have the ability
to learn our dean
very simply and easily anywhere at any
time completely asynchronously. So, not
not only did we want to provide
something that is Islamicized
and something that people can use to get
their higher education, but we wanted to
provide it to everyone whether they have
time or not, whether they have the
financial ability or not, and whether or
not they're in the right place at the
right time. None of those are factors
that will stop you from increasing your
education whether that be the dean or
your secular studies here at IOU.
Alhamdulillah. And that's what we are
here to offer the Muslim ummah and I ask
allahel to allow us to continue doing so
and to increase the number of students
that we have here in the United States
and worldwide so that we are able to
make a change through taking action. You
know, subhan Allah, we see, brother
Eddie, what's going around in the Muslim
um and what's going around here in the
United States.
Sometimes we look down our phones and
it's unbelievable. It's unfathomable.
But this is the test and the way to get
through this test whether it be the
immense amount of fitna immense amount
of tribulations that will always be
there and allahel told us it'll be there
not only in the world around us but in
our families in our wealth in our health
within our own selves
lays the tests and we cannot pass the
tests within our own lives let alone
alone worry about the tests of the ummah
without first learning our dean and
being able to understand and see through
these tests and navigate our way through
them staying steadfast on the straight
path.
>> And this is all from the convenient of
your own home. You can go to what's
what's the the website URL?
>> ioou.edu.gm.
That'll be ioou.edu.gm
>> and you can sign up today and from the
convenience of your home office,
wherever you're at, from your computer,
if you got one, that's all you need.
Wi-Fi connection, you can get started
right now.
>> That's all you need. Subhan Allah. Last
year, I also want to bring up our
audited programs. For those who are
maybe not interested or already have a
degree, we have programs for them as
well. For those who are maybe not
interested in the stress that comes with
the test and the quizzes of going
through a degree program, have our
audited programs. The same exact degree
programs, whether it be diplomas,
associates, bachelors, or master's
degrees in Islamic studies, Arabic
education, psychology,
IT, and much more. They have the option
to do it straight at home. And subhan
Allah, our next semester is going to be
starting on March 1st, right during
Ramadan. We have a 20% discount going
now for anyone who's eligible to enroll.
So for anyone who wants to jump into
those degree programs and get an
accredited degree in whatever it may be,
whether it be it or Islamic studies can
do so by simply going on ou.edu.gm,
GM creating an account uploading their
information so that they can get
admission and from there enrolling in
our degree programs.
>> And now those are the degree programs.
You also have the other certificate
programs right that are not degree
related.
>> Certificates not degree related. You can
take the degree programs through our
audited choice which allows you to not
have to go through any of the tests or
quizzes. So it's simply just the course
material, the videos and the modules and
all the information. Now for example
like for the brother we just had on, we
have an entire other part of our
university, the general diploma
aspect of our university which is
completely free and it goes over
Quran hadith Arabic salah everything a
new Muslim would need or want to know
completely provided for free for them.
>> Thank you. Thank you again for being
with us Dr.
any anything else you would like to
leave us with before we conclude?
>> It's been an honor to have you on again.
Uh
my pleasure to be here and uh I welcome
all the viewers who are taking in this
session and uh we hope that you would
follow the dean show on a regular basis
because a lot of knowledge is being uh
shared through it
and we will be coming on from time to
time uh sharing different topics etc.
It's been a while since our last visit,
>> but inshallah we hope to be in closer
contact in the future. And um you know
as the prophet sallallaihi wasallam had
said
knowledge
is obligatory on every Muslim.
You know, we are not coming from a
religious foundation where we're telling
people, you know, don't read the holy
books, the scriptures, just listen to
the priest. You know, this is what tends
to be the common approach in the vast
majority of religions and and uh
the like.
Whereas Islam stresses the importance of
getting knowledge
because with that knowledge you will be
able to determine what is correct and
what is incorrect.
You know the knowledge is
a blessing from God.
We hope that all the viewers who have
followed this session of the Dean Show
would expand their own knowledge,
increase their knowledge and
better know who the God, the Lord, the
Almighty who created this world and the
world to come.
>> Thank you both. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Go ahead and don't miss out.
It's coming up. March, you said Abdah
Rahman is the uh new sign up for the new
semester.
>> March 1st is the first day of the new
semester, spring 2026. And we have a 20%
discount going until then, inshallah.
>> Thank you guys. We'll see you next time
here on the Dean Show and everybody
else.
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