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to the dean show I'm your host let me
ask you a question if I ask now 1.5 over
you know what 1.7 billion Muslims all
over the globe if I ask them do you love
Jesus none of them would hesitate and
say yes we do let me ask you the not yet
Muslims do you love Muhammad many of you
you're going to be startled and say
Muhammad who is he many of them many of
you don't know about one of the most
influential Michael H Hart who talks
about in his book The 100 most
influential men throughout history he
labeled Muhammad peace be upon Him
number one who was the last and final
messenger sent to mankind so it's a
shame that you don't know this man but
in this short episode we're going to be
talking about his life his biography
with the author of Jesus and the last
and final messenger the Prophet Muhammad
peace be upon them when we come back
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is thank you for having me on the show
it's a real pleasure and honor to be
here today thank you for being with us I
kind of got uh stuck there I was on some
old numbers I said 1.5 billion no no
it's actually over 1.7 billion Muslims
you're one of those Muslims just like
Jesus was one who submits to the will of
the Creator not the creation and if I
asked you do you love Jesus what would
you say absolutely unequivocally yes I
do absolutely no hesitation then no
hesitation but many people you heard now
the other side of the question we asked
not yet Muslims do you love Muhammad and
a lot of people they don't know Muhammad
so we're doing this episode so people
can get to know Muhammad that's why you
wrote the book so you put Jesus and the
last and final messenger tell us why
this title thank you jazak I really
admire the work that uh you and and the
dean show have been doing I think uh
calling people to the truth is a
fantastic uh calling and the reason why
I did the book is for the sake of God
you know there's no other uh higher
purpose than serving God and and
essentially remembering the memories and
the examples good examples of the
prophets including Jesus uh may peace be
upon him and the prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaih wasallam and I realized
that there's a huge opportunity here
when you think about uh books like Harry
Potter and Lord of the Rings these are
very very popular uh fiction stories but
uh there's an even more inspiring true
non-fiction story um that is very well
historically documented and it is the
life of the Prophet Muhammad Sall
wasallam peace be upon him and the
prophet that was before him was Jesus
may peace be upon him and uh that is a
story that a lot of folks are familiar
with they're familiar with different
versions and uh not only did Jesus but
Moses they knew that there would be a
last and final messenger and it's in the
scriptures it's in the Torah and it's
also in the Bible and uh essentially the
prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wasallam has been a big inspiration in
my life and I wanted friends family and
neighbors to benefit and be inspired and
have a fun time reading this fast-paced
inspirational non-fiction story Jesus in
the last messenger is it true what I
said now you have Michael H Hart who was
was a historian he went back and he
looked at all the different top figures
throughout history and he put he
mentioned you know Jesus in there he
mentions many many other uh great people
but he put Muhammad peace be upon Him
number one is this true he did indeed uh
Michael Hart did list uh Prophet
Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam may
peace be upon him as the number one most
influential uh figure in all of history
you know looking at folks of all
different faiths political leaders
religious leaders and I think it's very
remarkable it's very remarkable that
that he did that I agree with the
statement uh the prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam the last me
last and final messenger and Prophet um
he was he played so many roles he was um
a spiritual leader he was the head of a
a nation state uh he was the
commander-in-chief he was at the front
lines when he had to go uh into conflict
into battle as the last resort when
peaceful means didn't work uh he was a
marriage counselor he was a husband he
was a father and I don't know of very
many uh figures historical figures that
uh did so many things so well they used
to say that he used to spend a third uh
of his life uh for family purposes a
third of his life for prayer and a third
of his life attending to uh matters of
the state and so it's just phenomenal to
see his commitment and the grand amazing
inspirational impact that he's had but I
think there's an opportunity that we
have in the west and other places in the
world for folks to be introduced and for
folks that know about the story for the
story to be uh reinvigorated and
reignited and uh I actually reread uh
many parts of the story of the Prophet
Muhammad may peace be upon him and the
Quran just so that we can remind
ourselves of all the Miracles uh that
occurred in his life and we should
believe uh in God The One and Only God
uh and His prophets all the prophets
including Jesus and Moses and Abraham
and the prophet Muhammad who was the
last and final messenger um and the
angels and the scriptures and if we
believe in all those things uh really
truly remarkable things can happen it
can really solve all of societ problems
if we believe in that uh tell us Adam we
know that uh it's not hard to get to
know Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
his life is so authentically recorded
he's one of the most documented men in
history I mean the if you look that's
one of the Miracles along with we have
the Quran the ROM word of God which is
living Miracle but now were you just
fascinated writing about his life his
biography did you see Miracles inside
just his day-to-day activities and life
and were you inspired now even more does
it does increase you in your IM we say
in your faith it it has indeed increased
me in my faith uh it has uh brought me
back to the faith I've I was born Muslim
uh but uh you know you go through
different levels of spirituality and in
the last few uh years since I started
this effort it has reinvigorated my
faith and uh there were a lot of
Miracles and the one that you mentioned
is perhaps the greatest miracle that he
had uh the scripture the purified
scripture that has been unaltered for
the last 14 centuries uh which is the
Quran the book of Truth The Book of God
the book of Allah tala and um but there
were many other Miracles uh during one
of the battles uh it is uh the battle of
the trench uh the his followers the
Muslims were essentially digging a big
trench and uh they were going to Face
Off With The qures Who persecuted and
opposed the prophet Muhammad sallallahu
alaihi wasallam and the Muslims and uh
during one of the the scenes uh there
was a Believer a Muslim that invited him
because it was a time of drought and
hunger and and the hunger was so bad
that the Muslims and the prophet
Muhammad peace be upon him had to tie
Stones around their stomach to repress
the hunger and the prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam had to tie
two stones to his uh belly because the
the hunger was so bad and so this Muslim
uh believer follower called him and said
hey why don't you bring a few of your
friends over uh and we can eat a meal
together my wife has uh prepared
something we've slaughtered an animal uh
and we have some bread and so uh the
prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wasallam said come on and he basically
motioned to much of the army to come
with him and when they uh went there uh
this Muslim follower was was uh oh my
gosh I don't know he's talking to his
wife uh whether we're going to have
enough uh food uh to feed all these
people and the wife had complete trust
in Allah subhana tala and the prophet
Muhammad Sall alaih wasallam and said
you know what he knows what he's doing
and one of the Miracles of the prophet s
alai wasallam when food was scarce when
water was scarce uh through supplicating
and saying prayers to the one and only
God the one and only Creator Allah uh
the the food was able to multiply and
the water was able to gush forth and
this is very well documented by hundreds
and hundreds of witnesses all those are
witnesses there who ate from that food
drank from the from the milk or the
water that was multiplied right exactly
exactly you know I I think one of the
things uh not only in the Muslim circles
but Christian circles Jewish circles all
the different Fates is that we believe
uh in historical events be it uh the
Roman Empire be it the time of Jesus
Abraham and this also is history this is
history uh it is one of the
opportunities that we have in the west
to have a balanced approach and this is
something that a lot of us need to take
a look at but this book um while it is
based on historical events uh it
essentially tries to focused on the
inspirational non-fiction uh parts of
the life the conversations the Miracles
uh the events and so when people read it
it doesn't read like a history book it
reads like you were actually there and
it's fun people are able to read it in
one sitting in a matter of 3 to 4 hours
Jesus and the last messenger we're going
to be back with more God willing here to
talk more about this book with the
author we'll be right back here on the I
want you to imagine you wake up and in
front of you are a bunch of guys running
around kicking a ball no goals no lines
no rules what would you think
but is that your life surely every sport
has its goal every game has its end it
has its objective it has its rules how
about life how about our life isn't
there a goal to life isn't there a
purpose an objective that we have to
reach we think so the Quran tells us
that we exist in order to worship God
and worshiping God means knowing god as
the Quran says
worship though is not some narrow
small thing it's wide it's vast it
encompasses everything that the human
being does everything that you do
everything that you think everything
that you feel can be done thought said
felt in a way that is either pleasing or
displeasing to God the purpose of life
is to try and do everything everything
in a way that God loves and God is
pleased with that is your goal back here
on the dean show now those 1.7 plus
billion Muslims those who submit to the
Creator not the creation we love Jesus
people are now through this episode
trying to get some glimpses of prophet
Muhammad peace be upon Him Jesus came
with the same message that Muhammad came
Muhammad came with the same message
Jesus came they all called people to
worship the one God the one Creator not
the creation do good prepare for the day
of judgment now people a lot of people
the reason we bring up these Miracles
many people they flaunt Jesus did so
many wonderful Miracles you know what I
mean and he was a man of Peace you
follow me so twofold question uh we
talked about one of the Miracles we have
the ultimate Miracle the Quran it's the
verbatim word of God is testable to this
day but also through examples in the
prophet's life we see these Miracles so
is there are there any other Miracles
that you can share with us and also the
other question would be like how is he a
prophet if you're talking about these
wars that he went through because many
people they know Jesus is never fighting
you know but now Muhammad they try to
discredit him because he was in some
battles yes well you know it it's very
interesting that uh in the early part of
his prophethood and when the Muslim
Community was forming that uh God the
the one and only Creator Allah uh did
not give permission for the Muslims to
fight so he basically was preaching
peacefully he was leading a good life
had good character a good example he was
very truthful he was absolutely
inspiring but he did everything through
peaceful means and it wasn't uh until
multiple multiple years that uh the
tribe of qures uh persecuted and
prevented uh the the Muslims from for
example visiting uh the sanctuary uh the
cabba the house that uh Abraham built uh
many many centuries ago that Allah
subhana tala in the Quran revealed
verses that gave the Prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam and the
Muslims the uh permission to go ahead
and fight because they have been
prevented from going to the sanctuary
the house of God and from practicing
their religion uh openly so uh there's a
misperception that Islam was spread
through the sword it was uh spread
through good character by good examples
and when they were confronted then they
were given permission to go ahead and
fight and there's there's Rules of
Engagement and fighting in war um thank
God I I have my myself never been in a
war but um there's a way to do
everything there's a way to do
everything and and that was one of the
things that the prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam was taught on
your first part of your question around
Miracles there are so many miracles hold
it hold it right there we're going to
get to the Miracles but isn't it ironic
when you watch uh you know some of these
uh figures like um you know Alexander
the Great they call him or you see
Braveheart and you know these people
that are out there fighting for good and
they got the sword and people are like
wow this guy's amazing he's a hero but
if you look at like you were just
mentioning the earlier Muslims were
tortured just like the Christians during
Jesus's time they were tortured they
were persecuted you know they were
boycotted can you talk about this you
know and they weren't fighting for how
many years they went through the
persecution they didn't fight you know
what I mean but finally when they were
able to defend themselves they were able
to you know fight for justice and for
for the for the um being able to to
worship the Creator not the creation you
know why would anybody object to that
now and try to discredit Prophet
Muhammad peace be upon
well you know I I think sometimes when
you when you think about something that
is so spectacular and so Grand and too
good to be true um you know if if you
have not accepted uh the faith of Peace
um you know you want to sort of stick to
what you know and what you've been
taught and it takes a great deal of
courage and being brave to go out there
and explore something for example um I'm
Muslim and when I'm confronted with a
new idea it's worth checking out to see
does it hold up or not and the proof uh
is there for folks that want to find out
the truth um so there are many reasons
why why folks try to disc discredit the
prophet Muhammad Sall Alam um but you
really have to carefully assess the
argument and see what the motivations
and intentions are uh it's it's amazing
that you know both of my neighbors in
California are Christian and uh we have
a very healthy respect with each other
they have differences of of opinion
about the prophets of times past but um
we have a spectacularly even greater
Dialogue on innerfaith matters they've
actually read the book um and you know
we we we have healthy dialogue but you
really have to just understand whether
people are trying to seek the truth or
they have some other type of intention
now when you look at how many people
totally and totality died even through
these 23 years I had one of my guests
before uh Islamic scholar he was talking
about about only 1,200 people in the
whole 23 years do you know what number
is that I I don't recall the the figure
exactly but I know that's very low
compared to the casualties that the
opposition The KES and their
Confederates and allies they faced very
very heavy losses in fact after the
battle of bad the first major conflict
that happened between the two sides the
prophet Muhammad sallallah wasam and the
Muslims versus the qures and their
allies um most of the leaders of the
qures um died or passed away from from
their battle injuries and uh the uh Abu
sufyan uh the the leader that became the
leader of the qures he he then stepped
up but he was very unprepared for that
but it is very interesting point that
you're making Eddie that uh that the the
casual were a lot heavier uh on the
opposition that that were trying to
oppose the prophet Muhammad and the
Muslims I I'm talking about in totality
I think it was only from both sides I
believe uh and it's interesting if you
read the Bible for instance when the uh
children of Israel when they went and
worship the calf yes yes 3,000 people
were put to death this is according to
the Bible in one day and Moses is still
not discredited he's still considered a
messenger of God that just interesting
interesting Le let's go do you have a
comment yeah yeah I was just going to
say that that um you know finally when
um not to give away the ending ending
but but close to the end the prophet
Muhammad sallallahu Al for uh vast
majority of the angles that you look at
this U him and the followers the Muslims
they actually overtake they overtook the
the holiest city mcah uh through
relatively peaceful means with with very
little Bloodshed and so I think that
that is a big Big Miracle and uh the
fact that that um a lot of the people
that opposed him that uh persecuted him
and the Muslims he was incredibly
merciful the example that you're giving
he had certain rights to sort of uh
exact justice but he let go of the vast
majority of folks he did not hold them
hostage he did not take them prisoner um
there were some exceptions for good
reason but the vast majority of people
were allowed to live peacefully they
were not forced into accepting Islam uh
I mean that event in of itself is just
on inspiring how peacefully they
overtook uh Mah and how everybody was
able to to coexist whether they accepted
the message or not that's when they came
back 10,000 strong right and now you can
imagine what somebody you know uh would
come and do in retaliation for all the
abuse for the torture for the boycott
but there was there are very few
peacefully you know uh came in and
overtook Mecca very few human beings
that have shown that type of Mercy the
amount of obviously Allah is the most
merciful he's the uh
Alman but in terms of human beings there
are very few people that were as
merciful and generous and kind and
forgiving as the prophet Muhammad uh
peace be upon them you talk about that
in your book absolutely there things
we're talking about a lot of this is in
the book absolutely it's it's available
uh you know on Amazon both paperback and
ebook Okay we're going to talk some more
we're not done quite yet we're going to
take a break I'm excited this is one of
my favorite topics we're talking about
the biography of the last and final
message Messengers sent to mankind we're
not excluding Jesus or Moses or Abra
they were all Muslims Liv in Islam and
we're talking about their message and
much more here on the dean show we'll be
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alone back here on the dean show and
we're talking to the author of Jesus and
the last and final messenger the prophet
Muhammad peace be upon him no muslim is
a Muslim if you exclude Jesus you can
have a one-way ticket to the Hellfire as
a Muslim is this true Allah is uh the
master of the day of judgement but we do
need to accept all as prophets otherwise
you know we're going to uh lower our
chances of getting the ultimate reward
of paradise exclude one exclude them all
we accept them all we accept Moses Jesus
Abraham the last and final messenger
because they all came with the same
message they called people to have a
loving relationship with the one who
created you the one you're going to
return back to and hopefully at the end
of the show when we ask people you know
do you love Muhammad they'll say you
know what I'm so intrigued by what you
guys are say I'm going to at least get
to know him and then hopefully they'll
fall in love with him as over close to
1.7 plus billion all over the world have
now Miracles people love these Miracles
we have the living Miracle of the Quran
we've talked about that other shows but
let's talk about another miracle they're
at the battle the trench preparing to
defend themselves the qu they're coming
on the attack and now you know the
spirits are kind of low they're digging
the trench they're working there's a
huge Boulder the prophet sallam strikes
it three times talk about this yes it is
uh also a documented fact it's uh based
on uh accounts that have been well
preserved over time there's a very
precise chain of narration that has
happened over the last 14 centuries and
these are called sah hadits these are
examples and uh well authenticated
stories about the prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaih wasallam so they were
trying to dig this trench and you know
some of the soil was fairly tough to
break away and one of the Miracles that
the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wasallam had was that he was able to tap
or strike or pour water over these very
difficult uh rocks uh to to remove
and uh on one such occasion there was a
very big rock Boulder and uh he struck
it and from there appeared several
lightning bolts and uh the Muslims asked
uh
y uh what is this what is the meaning of
this and he said that uh that uh the
Muslims have been granted several lands
that they would uh overtake in the
future including Syria uh including uh
modern day back then Persia now it's
called Iran and several other lands
Byzantium uh and so there were really
four lands that were mentioned there and
uh it came to pass uh shortly after he
passed away that the Muslims overtook
all those lands if you take a look at 14
centuries ago thereabouts uh the Muslims
in very short order conquered all those
lands and again this is a historically
documented prophecy and Miracle the
event that happened in the lightning
bolts his interpretation and that played
itself out on the example of Persia for
example uh uh and other uh lands such as
Byzantium and abisinia which is called
modern day ethopia the prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaih wasam had the courage
to write letters to these very powerful
leaders uh some of them knew about him
others didn't and um you know the the
leader of Persia uh when he got the
letter he ripped it up into bits he was
so angry he considered
himself to be God and we know that that
that's not the case and he actually sent
some people to Yemen which was under his
control to say arrest this man the
prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wasallam and when those people actually
arrived at the prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam Place uh he
saw them and he saw that they had you
know very big mustaches and they had
shaved their beard and the prophet
Muhammad peace be upon them was exactly
he had he had a beard and he shaved his
his mustache and they exchanged sort of
comments about you know what the
situation is and um he said why don't
you come back some you know to the next
day and so he came back the next day the
the people from Yemen and uh the Prophet
Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam had
actually received information from Angel
jabriel uh Angel jabriel is the same
angel that came to all the prophets uh
to Moses to Abraham to Jesus and to the
last and final messenger and he gave him
news that uh the Emperor of Persia had
been slain had been murdered at the
hands of his very own son the son of the
emperor of Persia and uh the prophet
Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam
conveyed this to the two people from
Yemen and said why don't you take this
back uh and and let them know about it
and and here here's some here's some
gold you know to take back is a good
gesture and uh these two people went
back the soldiers went back and told the
uh the ruler of Yemen about what the
prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wasallam had said and they were just
flabbergast How could somebody make that
statement and they said well let's just
wait and actually shortly thereafter a
messenger came from Persia and uh
brought news that in fact the Emperor of
Persia had been slain and that the son
of that late Emperor was asking for
their allegiance and then they realized
that how could somebody sitting hundreds
of miles away know about this event
happening uh and so then the EMP the
ruler of Yemen uh and all of his
dignitaries uh the people that reported
into him uh accepted Islam and sent
message back and the prophet sallallahu
alaihi wasallam uh sent forth Muslims to
help them understand more about Islam
and many of the people in Yemen were in
fact Christian and they followed suit
and also accepted Islam so that in of
itself and there's many many stories I
would encourage uh folks that are Muslim
that are Christian that are Jew to take
a look at the story to have fun and to
learn the truth about this historic
historical account it's a very
fast-paced uh book and they can learn
about all these stories there's a lot
that's packed in there but it's done in
a way that it's uh doesn't feel dense
yeah uh there was no uh instant uh
messenger uh no email this is happened
there's no cell phone and this is a
journey that'll take you know probably
about close to two months so he's
getting this information exact you know
this is a miracle in itself one one more
one more just give it a condensed
version Bounty Hunter is coming after
him this guy's an experienced horse
rider he's sinking in the sand yes talk
to us about this absolutely so the
context around this is that uh the qu um
had sort of had it at a certain point
and they said to themselves like we need
to deal with this Prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam character and
so they uh conspired to essentially uh
get younger men to all hold uh it's
Unthinkable but hold uh weapons and
essentially uh take the life of the
Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wasallam and so the prophet Muhammad
peace be upon he wasn't at that meeting
but the angel jabriel uh basically
relayed uh this information of the
Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
although he wasn't anywhere close to the
meeting and uh Allah subhana tala the
one and only Creator God uh gave the
prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
permission because he didn't act without
Allah subhana tala giving him Direction
on how to move forward and so he was
given permission to leave Makkah to
immigrate to Medina and so he did and on
the on the immigration there with his uh
with the sahabah named Abu Bakr His
companion and close friend uh they were
going and they were on the journey and
uh there was a very brave Warrior that
chased them because there was a ransom
on their heads there was a lot of camels
that were going to be uh guaranteed for
the person that captured the prophet
Muhammad P be upon them and brought them
back to the qures and so he wanted that
Ransom and uh basically on the way going
there he sank in the sand once got up
kept going sank on the sand twice
chasing the prophet Muhammad and Abu
Bakr his friend uh and then sank in the
sand three times and they realized you
know what there's something strange
going on here I'm not going to be able
to catch up to them and said you know
what I give up and called out to them
and the prophet Muhammad peace be
opponent Abu Baker came uh to this
Warrior and said uh yes what's going on
and he said can you please write
something so that you will recognize me
should I meet you in the future and Abu
Bakr wrote something and gave it over
and uh and then as the warrior was
leaving uh the prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam said like
what would you say if you were to see uh
the jewelry uh of uh the Emperor of
Persia and the warrior was the
flabbergast like who's going to even
come close to that stuff and he just
walked away and it came to pass that
that Warrior uh witnessed that event
Happ he was able to actually wear those
uh bracelets I think of the the the
leader was it of Persia of of Persia
this was a prophecy that came true yes
exactly so many Miracle you talk about
this in the book absolutely things that
we we we talked about it's in the book
it's in the book ABS okay we're out of
time tell us now uh where can people get
the book people can get the book on
Amazon it's available on paperback and
ebook all the proceeds go to charity to
awake I Revival it's a nonprofit uh
organization and uh it has uh 12 five
out of five stars uh on Amazon and uh
all proceeds go to all proceeds go to
charity for charitable purposes to
spread the truth uh of the message and
this book has also been reviewed by uh
shikh Omar salaman and and sections of
it have been reviewed by shik yaser kadi
two very well-respected Scholars on
they've reviewed the book also yes they
have okay just in in the last uh 15
seconds what was the message of the
Prophet Muhammad it was uh muham there
is no God except Allah and Muhammad may
peace be upon Him is the messenger and
it was a message of Peace that's it
thank you very much for being with us
thank you we'll see you uh soon
hopefully thank you very much for being
with us on the show thank you very much
so that was his
message there's no deity nothing worthy
of worship except the one who made you
your creator my Creator the creator of
this universe and everything in it
that's the same message that Jesus came
with there's no at his time God worthy
of worship except Allah except the
Creator and Jesus at that time was the
messenger at Moses's time there's no God
worthy of worship except the Creator and
at that time moses' time you had to
follow the messenger who was Moses and
at this time your time today the last
and final messenger is Propet Muhammad
peace be upon him so get to know this
man it'd be a shame we love Jesus and
you would love Muhammad but you didn't
know him now you know a little bit about
him and it'll be a shame if you don't
continue to get to know him and it's a
guarantee let me tell you something if
you're sincere open mind open-minded
humble hearted and you get to know this
man you will fall in love with him
because he came with the truth he came
with a message a believable message and
the proof they'll get you to Jenna
they'll get you to Paradise so get to
know this man follow his Sunnah his way
and this is a guarantee if you live this
life according to God's will not your
desires and you follow the last and
final messenger sent to mankind you will
have Jenna you will have paradise and
you avoid the Hellfire what an awful
place to be at but a wonderful place to
be in is Jenna let's strive for it
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